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Hazzardtohimself

As has been said, real money (Shark Cards) throws up all kinds of legal issues when it comes to gambling. It's a wonder that some nanny state (he says ironically, being from the UK) hasn't panicked about people buying in-game money which can then be 'gambled' during GTA's online racing etc. or (more likely) wiped by script-kiddies. 

 

If there is a casino / RNG-reward thing introduced in GTAO to match its RDO counterparts, there will (have to) be a barrier between prizes that can be won / lost in that, and the GTA$ that can be bought using stinky fish cards. As @Zak Ras (and others) have mentioned, there would then inevitably be two separate in-game currencies to deal with. Of course, that might then open an option for trade-market stuff from single player... albeit probably nerfed by R* and (once again) probably ruined by script kiddies within a day. 

 

But the gambling concept doesn't appeal to me. Unless there's a casino heist, of course! 

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Piro
33 minutes ago, Fluffy Sock said:
 
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This shows how R*/T2 approaches gambling in online games. Shows that they're indeed aware of gambling laws, and act accordingly.

So just like with nudity in gtao
 

Spoiler

How this can be translated to GTAO and an eventual Casino dlc? I don't know.

My guess would be it would work exactly the same way. So If you in one of those countries you can only play casino heist but no poker for you.

But they would probably add other minigames that are not considered as gambling in those countries (copypasted spin2win wheel from arena war?).  Cause Casino with poker and nothing else would look... very empty.

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I can already imagine gambling in R* games... "Oh no I lost... time to lag myself off"

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FuturePastNow
2 hours ago, rollschuh2282 said:

idk, all i know is that the interior file for the vehicle warehouse is called: intwaremed

 

It wouldn't be surprising at all if their first draft of I/E included small, medium, and large warehouses like special cargo and they cut it down to one size before launch.

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gfh12

could see this coming with goldbars poker was always going to be difficult for anyone  that wants to play poker can still play it on rdr 1 online and liars dice if youre on ps now you can stream rdr or if you are on x box one you can download it for cheap enough or if you have an old 360 disc you can use that for free 

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Fluffy Sock
8 minutes ago, Piro said:

So just like with nudity in gtao
 

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How this can be translated to GTAO and an eventual Casino dlc? I don't know.

My guess would be it would work exactly the same way. So If you in one of those countries you can only play casino heist but no poker for you.

But they would probably add other minigames that are not considered as gambling in those countries (copypasted spin2win wheel from arena war?).  Cause Casino with poker and nothing else would look... very empty.

edit:
I can already imagine gambling in R* games... "Oh no I lost... time to lag myself off"

More or less what I think.

 

They can't release a dlc that's all about gambling because players from some countries would miss the very core of the dlc. Thus a dlc inclunding gambling should've something else as the main selling point (casino heist is the best example) then gambling as a side activity.

 

What we know for sure is gambling laws do affect the content. 

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VitoCorleone1992
10 hours ago, Son of Dutch said:

Red dead online has 2 currencies guys so when you don’t even have to play from gold bars to gamble in rdo

thats not the case in gtao

Yeah...but then just f*cking put a new currency in gta...is quite lame we are begging for R* put a casino dlc in gta from the past 6 years and nothing was done, but the first dlc of RDO out of beta: "here, have gambling/poker, sirs!" It isn't fair...doesn't R* thought about a new currency to GTAO all through this years to surpass all those "gambling laws issues"? I hardly think so.

9 hours ago, MrARCO said:

Great concept, but Rockstar is all about making that sweet dough. How can they financially profit from a Casino DLC without facing legal problems? 

But now, how they really profit with RDO gambling dlc? Sorry, i don't play the game, so i don't know how it works.

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RyuNova

This topic/lack of info is making people on here bitter.

You cant even make a joke in this topic without some killjoy screeching at you.

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carnerd3000
2 hours ago, Fluffy Sock said:

 

This shows how R*/T2 approaches gambling in online games. Shows that they're indeed aware of gambling laws, and act accordingly.

 

How this can be translated to GTAO and an eventual Casino dlc? I don't know.

Interesting. I would've never known that was a thing. I do forget that certain places have strict gambling laws. I recently heard that here in America they might be trying to pass a bill that gets rid of microtransactions, or at least puts restrictions on them.

 

1 hour ago, hei3enberg said:

Poker in Online? Count me out completely. I have no idea why do I need to play in-game poker while I can play it over any other platform or even IRL. The idea of simulating poker games only appeals to me as a tool to eliminate the distance over players with expense of the atmosphere. I understand the appeal of poker in general, though. I just don't think it contributes to GTA, like golf, yoga, darts or arm-wrestling.

Makes sense, but it's another activity to do (which can hopefully be done right), and personally I think it would be good to have that in the game rather than starting up another game entirely just to play poker. And bringing back pool, bowling, and putting in some sports would be cool too. Just more pass-times, I guess (I know they wouldn't be anything to make good money off of lol).

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Kiwi_91

i get that stuff like poker will probably never come to online, but with the arena war wheel you always come out a winner. so it bypasses a bunch of laws. if we were to get the casino. it would be full of modes similar to the arena war wheel. no poker or anything similar 

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SickBoy

I don't expect anything like Poker will be added to Online ever, simply because the way Red Dead works it is with a currency exclusively earned in game, not through any real life purchases, and GTA lacks a secondary form of currency to utilise for the likes of a Casino.

 

It wouldn't be the most difficult thing to work around though, they could add the Casino and all the games that come with, but introduce the second currency in the form of chips. You would be given a set amount of chips to begin with, and the only way to earn chips to gamble is through missions relating to the Casino, similar to AP for the Arena. You'd be able to cash your chips out for normal GTA currency, but never able to spend that currency on more chips. It would remove the worry of people spending Shark Cards to gamble, and would encourage playing missions added to earn more chips to "gamble" with. The only reason I find this highly unlikely is because it is completely win-win for the players. They can just spam missions for chips, play and win at the Casino and cash out for GTA money, and this would actually take away a little from Shark Card sales, which is something R* wouldn't want to risk.

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Luganoff
7 hours ago, rollschuh2282 said:

so, seems like there is still a hidden video uploaded on the channel

youtube lists 249 and social blade lists 248.

i hope that this is the GTA DLC Trailer...

Impossible. This mysterious video has been on Rockstar's YouTube channel for at least 2 months now.

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Biscuitandtaterz09

Maybe trailer next week or the 29th

Just now, Biscuitandtaterz09 said:

Maybe trailer next week or the 29th

30*

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ddarko12
7 minutes ago, Biscuitandtaterz09 said:

Maybe trailer next week or the 29th

30*

After what fun said Im convinced itll be late June so I wouldnt bet on a trailer til the 21st of June. Just bein pessimistic but after last year... aint getting hyped up on any possibilities of this update being within a couple of weeks time

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Lupo-Akane

All gta online is going to get is a piss poor, not really thought out dlc with reskins of reskins of reskins.....

 

 

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VitoCorleone1992
1 hour ago, SickBoy said:

I don't expect anything like Poker will be added to Online ever, simply because the way Red Dead works it is with a currency exclusively earned in game, not through any real life purchases, and GTA lacks a secondary form of currency to utilise for the likes of a Casino.

 

It wouldn't be the most difficult thing to work around though, they could add the Casino and all the games that come with, but introduce the second currency in the form of chips. You would be given a set amount of chips to begin with, and the only way to earn chips to gamble is through missions relating to the Casino, similar to AP for the Arena. You'd be able to cash your chips out for normal GTA currency, but never able to spend that currency on more chips. It would remove the worry of people spending Shark Cards to gamble, and would encourage playing missions added to earn more chips to "gamble" with. The only reason I find this highly unlikely is because it is completely win-win for the players. They can just spam missions for chips, play and win at the Casino and cash out for GTA money, and this would actually take away a little from Shark Card sales, which is something R* wouldn't want to risk.

Well...how about R* (or probably T2) stop of being so greedy, give us that currency and just don't worry so much about a little downgrade in shark cards sells in that department? They are not the biggest owners of the best selling entertainment product of all time and nothing...i guess is time to show some appreciation for the so loyal fan player-base they have and give us some "gifts" not looking 100% on get profit from it.

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Ukranium911
2 hours ago, Kiwi_91 said:

i get that stuff like poker will probably never come to online, but with the arena war wheel you always come out a winner. so it bypasses a bunch of laws. if we were to get the casino. it would be full of modes similar to the arena war wheel. no poker or anything similar 

Yes yes, but when I bet on a race, not everyone comes out a winner.  In fact, everyone but one person loses.  And since I can use real money to buy fake currency to wager in those races, how is that any different from winning and losing in a casino?  Or more generally, how is it any different from buying a casino video game with real dollars then playing simulated gambling where i win or lose fake in game dollars?  Are those games banned in some countries, i honestly do not know.

1 hour ago, SickBoy said:

I don't expect anything like Poker will be added to Online ever, simply because the way Red Dead works it is with a currency exclusively earned in game, not through any real life purchases, and GTA lacks a secondary form of currency to utilise for the likes of a Casino.

 

It wouldn't be the most difficult thing to work around though, they could add the Casino and all the games that come with, but introduce the second currency in the form of chips. You would be given a set amount of chips to begin with, and the only way to earn chips to gamble is through missions relating to the Casino, similar to AP for the Arena. You'd be able to cash your chips out for normal GTA currency, but never able to spend that currency on more chips. It would remove the worry of people spending Shark Cards to gamble, and would encourage playing missions added to earn more chips to "gamble" with. The only reason I find this highly unlikely is because it is completely win-win for the players. They can just spam missions for chips, play and win at the Casino and cash out for GTA money, and this would actually take away a little from Shark Card sales, which is something R* wouldn't want to risk.

RS could easily do this, say you earn job points and can gamble with those.  Nothing new even needs to be added.  What is their motivation if they can not sell fish cards, that to me is the real question. 

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AUScowboy

If quality of life update were to happen, one of my top priorities would be more hangar space, and maybe more space for the arena garage if the update doesn't bring a new property with garage space.

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ddarko12

I just want a new sedan that doesnt suck or isnt an EV if this is a QOL update. Going through my collection today the biggest missing things and update like this could/should bring:

-big luxury suv (cullinan)

-modern drop top (new conti cabrio maybe or an aston ffs)

-non-ev sports sedan with no suspension issues (m5, ahem schafter v12 w the suspension issues smh)

 

Arena Wars Itali GTO, Toros and Schlagen were like literally out of my wants list so. :think: idk possible

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rollschuh2282

Oh wait, before the next page...567

We would need to wait another 100 pages for that to happen again.

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Re-Dragon-Cro

Well wasn't the reason for 2 different currencies in RDO pretty much to avoid problems with gambling? What's the point of that if people are still unable to play it. Doesn't make much sense for me, wouldn't it have to involve real money for the law to take effect?

 

Really weird and sucks because some people are cut short on the content of it, while I personally wouldn't give 2 flying farts about gambling I still wouldn't mind to play it here and there randomly with friends.

 

Stuff like this will have effect on GTA aswell.

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RetroStyle
2 hours ago, Ukranium911 said:

Yes yes, but when I bet on a race, not everyone comes out a winner.  In fact, everyone but one person loses.  And since I can use real money to buy fake currency to wager in those races, how is that any different from winning and losing in a casino?  Or more generally, how is it any different from buying a casino video game with real dollars then playing simulated gambling where i win or lose fake in game dollars?  Are those games banned in some countries, i honestly do not know.

RS could easily do this, say you earn job points and can gamble with those.  Nothing new even needs to be added.  What is their motivation if they can not sell fish cards, that to me is the real question. 

Prob just the fact most gtao players are underage. As far as motivation is concerned. If ppl grind casino type missions for "Chips" it boosts player count, and they dont get as much cash accumulated in the long run, which might encourage shark sales. But most shark card buyers dont grind, they just throw a few bucks at r* to get their impulse buys/griefing tools. I actually met a british guy who said he spent over $5000 on sharks......until we taught him how to do the finale repeat glitch ;)

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Zak Ras
17 hours ago, IceDree said:

I can see us getting:

 

- Airfreight Cargo next (16th - 22nd).

I wanna thank you for suggesting that.

 

Normally I would rather die than do Airfreight, But reading that today made me stock up 8 crates short of a full hangar, (just in case) and also helped me remember and realize a few things;

- The Hangar can never be raided, so it's safe to just have a full cargo bay for months on end.

- It is beyond rare that people will bother you doing air freight supply missions when they're not doubled.

- The OppMk2 is terrible at verticality, so just fly straight up if there's talentless Tryhards about.

- Switching between Chems and Narcotics can earn you even more money for your time than waiting to grind out a single item.

 

Combine that effort with non-stop Gunrunning single supply purchase/single delivery vehicle for the high demand bonus, that puts a nice little finish on this event week in my eyes.

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VitoCorleone1992
5 hours ago, Ukranium911 said:

Yes yes, but when I bet on a race, not everyone comes out a winner.  In fact, everyone but one person loses.  And since I can use real money to buy fake currency to wager in those races, how is that any different from winning and losing in a casino?  Or more generally, how is it any different from buying a casino video game with real dollars then playing simulated gambling where i win or lose fake in game dollars?  Are those games banned in some countries, i honestly do not know.

RS could easily do this, say you earn job points and can gamble with those.  Nothing new even needs to be added.  What is their motivation if they can not sell fish cards, that to me is the real question. 

 

2 hours ago, Re-Dragon-Cro said:

Well wasn't the reason for 2 different currencies in RDO pretty much to avoid problems with gambling? What's the point of that if people are still unable to play it. Doesn't make much sense for me, wouldn't it have to involve real money for the law to take effect?

 

Really weird and sucks because some people are cut short on the content of it, while I personally wouldn't give 2 flying farts about gambling I still wouldn't mind to play it here and there randomly with friends.

 

Stuff like this will have effect on GTA aswell.

Guys, the problem was solved to R* in not allowed countries who have gambling laws restrictions to play poker, that's for sure, and that's why they did that in RDO, it make them avoid legal problems and made the players happy, it was a win-win for both. But a little of that problem still remains, which is: how to deal, in the countries with no gambling restrictions, with the parents of those kids who could get addicted and burn all the cash from their parents bank accounts with their visa cards in gambling? xD R* would have a population of angry and bankrupted parents with forks at the gates. But, nonetheless, the problem could be solved with a introduction with a new currency who could work in similar way like in RDO. The big question is: is R* willing to put some effort in a 6 year old game? I mean, if that would be that a big of an effort to do so. But seems fairly easy i guess...If i would say myself, i think they have now a casino dlc in the horizon for gta, bcz they know that the "gamblings restrictions issues"  excuse ended yesterday when they put poker in RDO and know for sure that would and will make very pissed off all the gta players that has been begging for that since day 1. Which make me put another question: "is R* giving a f*ck about how much pissed off we, gta players, will get? xD I hope so and i call for their senses in give us some "gifts" of appreciation for the loyalty and the dedication that we gave to this game that made them profit a billion or something, they still will profit like they use to until today with shark cards sales for cars and properties. So, it's just a issue of good will or lack of it. But, let's put some pressure to R* at their feedback page, i already did my part there.

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39 minutes ago, VitoCorleone1992 said:

 

Guys, the problem was solved to R* in not allowed countries who have gambling laws restrictions to play poker, that's for sure, and that's why they did that in RDO, it make them avoid legal problems and made the players happy, it was a win-win for both. But a little of that problem still remains, which is: how to deal, in the countries with no gambling restrictions, with the parents of those kids who could get addicted and burn all the cash from their parents bank accounts with their visa cards in gambling? xD R* would have a population of angry and bankrupted parents with forks at the gates. But, nonetheless, the problem could be solved with a introduction with a new currency who could work in similar way like in RDO. The big question is: is R* willing to put some effort in a 6 year old game? I mean, if that would be that a big of an effort to do so. But seems fairly easy i guess...If i would say myself, i think they have now a casino dlc in the horizon for gta, bcz they know that the "gamblings restrictions issues"  excuse ended yesterday when they put poker in RDO and know for sure that would and will make very pissed off all the gta players that has been begging for that since day 1. Which make me put another question: "is R* giving a f*ck about how much pissed off we, gta players, will get? xD I hope so and i call for their senses in give us some "gifts" of appreciation for the loyalty and the dedication that we gave to this game that made them profit a billion or something, they still will profit like they use to until today with shark cards sales for cars and properties. So, it's just a issue of good will or lack of it. But, let's put some pressure to R* at their feedback page, i already did my part there.

I'd rather no virtual gambling than have a dual currency system. Considering how it works with RDO, where you need it to buy certain things, it's going to be worse than the shark card money gouging scheme. Separating purchased money from in game earned money could work though. I saw someone earlier mention having shark card money as credit that gets spent first but not allowed to be gambled with. 

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CrysisAverted

What would you guys prefer, an update tonight

or in December we find a plane ticket to

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Vice City

under our trees

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7 minutes ago, CrysisAverted said:

What would you guys prefer, an update tonight

or in December we find a plane ticket to

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Vice City

under our trees

If they make the map more bigger I'd choose Vice City in a heartbeat. 

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Laika Iwanowa
On 5/14/2019 at 3:09 PM, SummerFreeze said:

I'm not saying it's rational but if I were a Take 2/Rockstar exec, what this graph might tell me is that GTAO has steady interest regardless of DLCs, and that I should try everything I can to get RDR2O up to that same level of interest.

Same. I would basically keep the low level of engagement on GTAO. Don't get me wrong, but I can understand T2/Rockstar when it comes to that behavior. Most of today's GTA players are dumb and you can do with them what you want. They keep buying Shark Cards no matter what.

1 hour ago, CrysisAverted said:

What would you guys prefer, an update tonight

or in December we find a plane ticket to

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Vice City

under our trees

Just give me the good Route 69 to Vice City alright. I make my Western Daemon ready

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BlanketFister

New event week coming up. I speculate we get 2x on nightclub sales. And no intel on next dlc in the Newswire post.

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3 hours ago, CrysisAverted said:

What would you guys prefer, an update tonight

or in December we find a plane ticket to

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Vice City

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Vice City or anywhere other than crap LC......

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MrARCO

I dont get what the big deal is. Poker is one of those things you play with your friends for a couple of hours, only to be forgotten 2/3 days after. It's a fun addition nontheless, but it's not groundbreaking. Also poker is blocked in my country, so there's that. In my opinion this is the wrong approach to handle online poker in games. Either make it available for everyone, or just dont do it at all. Your friends may have a blast with poker and that's totally fine, but it's just not my cup of tea in videogames. 

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