Next DLC Speculation Thread Mk VII

[Nyamber]

7 minutes ago, carnerd3000 said:

So I saw the Tweet that Fun made about discovering more cut vehicles from Arena Wars, and I gotta say... it sucks we didn't get those vehicles he mentioned. I like the Death Race references, and also making cars that remind me of the Full Auto games. Oh well. 

They'll probably be here next update. It's likely the same situation as the two lowrider updates, where we knew about all the vehicles from part 2 because we found the names in part 1.

[Saiyam]

Arena War 2 it is then  

[Mach1bud]

11 hours ago, Piro said:

I seriously doubt that the next main theme will be just Arena Wars part 2. People are already sick of it and doing the same thing two times in a row doesn't rly make sense.

Idk man, seems to me Arena Wars lobbies are still pretty full even without x2. I think they are gonna have a lasting playerbase similar to Stunt Races.

[White Shark]

On 3/15/2019 at 11:22 PM, REXX said:

Knowing Rockstar, you'll get your Mafia update however, they have to make the kiddies happy too In other words:

 

Heck as long as this update gives us the ability to break out into song and sing Cuban Pete whilst all the cops are trying to shoot you, and instead they all dance along in a big street performance number!

 

 

[REXX]

2 minutes ago, White Shark said:

Heck as long as this update gives us the ability to break out into song and sing Cuban Pete whilst all the cops are trying to shoot you, and instead they all dance along in a big street performance number!

 

 

Chick chiki boom, chick chiki boom, chick chiki boom

[Marciliojunior01]

1 hour ago, Kiwi_91 said:

i would watch that if Sonny Evans was a bearable human being 

What is wrong with him? There is a beef that i dont know ?

[JustAnothaBrickinDaWal]

10 minutes ago, Marciliojunior01 said:

What is wrong with him? There is a beef that i dont know ?

Hes seems alright i like the gta geographic videos he makes, the discusion videos are okay depending on the topic

Edited March 17, 2019 by JustAnothaBrickinDaWal

[Pankypops]

I think the option 2 on the poll should be changed. Some of the options on it are nonsensical.

Make it like:

__________________________________________________

2. What do you think the theme will be?
a - Tuners/Street racing.
b - Police/Law enforcement.
c - Mansions and High life.
d - Naval DLC.
e - Arena Wars Pt. 2.
f - I'm not a Hipster Pt. 2.
g - Heists Pt. 2.
h - Another Random theme.

__________________________________________________

IMPO, I doubt it'll be Arena Wars Pt. 2. If they want to draw back players in, they'll not repeat DLCs, they never have in a small timeframe.
Arena Wars content might be included as dripfeed down the line, like someone mentioned above.

Edited March 17, 2019 by Pankypops

[Mach1bud]

9 minutes ago, Pankypops said:

I think the option 2 on the poll should be changed. Some of the options on it are nonsensical.

All of those extra ones you named fall under the "buy a new property to unlock new missions" or "another random update".

 

Can't put everything anyone could possibly think of into the poll, just put the ones that people have been guessing about in this topic recently.

Edited March 17, 2019 by Mach1bud
And I'm not changing it now, as I would have to reset the votes.

[Parmatt]

anyone know what does it means?

https://gyazo.com/c8d78eb97e28d57b19d3c56381c37b46

[carnerd3000]

1 hour ago, Natsuki said:

They'll probably be here next update. It's likely the same situation as the two lowrider updates, where we knew about all the vehicles from part 2 because we found the names in part 1.

Yeah, I saw GhillieMaster's video too, and overall I believe an Arena Wars Part 2 is possible too, even if it isn't the next update.

[Piro]

1 hour ago, Mach1bud said:

Idk man, seems to me Arena Wars lobbies are still pretty full even without x2. I think they are gonna have a lasting playerbase similar to Stunt Races.

Just because some people are still playing doesn't mean that others are not burned out already. Sounds like a bad business strategy to release the same theme two times in a row. And after CS those new additions (like transform races for example) were always kept as filler. I think the same thing gonna happen with AR right now. 

So main mystery theme + Arena Wars part 2 for dripfeed for next months.

Edited March 17, 2019 by Piro

[White Shark]

A part 2 Arena War DLC worries me.  As much as I liked the new vehicles, mines and some of the clothing, everything was RIDICULOUSLY priced, and the Arena War matches got boring too quick, became empty as no one bothered with them and the payouts were laughable, especially the AP rewards.

 

I don't want any more of this crap.

[Saiyam]

I want more PvE stuff cmon

[Nihilist.]

14 minutes ago, White Shark said:

A part 2 Arena War DLC worries me.  As much as I liked the new vehicles, mines and some of the clothing, everything was RIDICULOUSLY priced, and the Arena War matches got boring too quick, became empty as no one bothered with them and the payouts were laughable, especially the AP rewards.

  

I don't want any more of this crap.

Pretty much this. Everything boils down to the fact Arena War is a paywalled glorified adversary mode. Hopefully R* will let it die completely, because it has no long-term value, espcially since it's PvP exclusive and offers nothing to non-competitive players. As a co-op person, I visited my arena workshop ONCE - to customize Imperator and Sasquatch, so they don't look like post-apo hunks of junk. I gladly skipped the introductory race, since I've got no interest in playing it.

 

Look at how poorly Lowriders: Custom Classics was received, mostly because it didn't offer anything new. It was just more of the same, even though some custom variants - most notably Sabre, Tornado and Slamvan, have become fan favourites. Same with Cunning Stunts: Special Vehicle Circuit. The first time was great, the second felt unnecessary.

 

I'd kill for some quality PvE content for once. Doomsday Heist is artifficially difficult garbage, After Hours is pretty much few selling missions and that's it, while SSASSS and Arena War were doomed to fail from the very beginning. Also, I'd be all for a tuner DLC - after all, I made a concept thread focusing on that, so the theme matches my taste perfectly. Give me some diverse cars fro different classes and manufacturers, cough Obey cough. Either that or mansions update, since that's one of the most common community requests.

Edited March 17, 2019 by Nihilist.

[White Shark]

5 minutes ago, Nihilist. said:

 

 

I'd kill for some quality PvE content for once. Doomsday Heist is artifficially difficult garbage, After Hours is pretty much few selling missions and that's it, while SSASSS and Arena War were doomed to fail from the very beginning. Also, I'd be all for a tuner DLC - after all, I made a concept thread focusing on that, so the theme matches my taste perfectly. Give me some diverse cars fro different classes and manufacturers, cough Obey cough. Either that or mansions update, since that's one of the most common community requests.

 

Rockstar's greatest issue which blinds their judgement is how they can squeeze more money out of their fan base.  This is the ultimate problem.  It clouds their minds, resulting in them sacrificing gameplay for micro-transaction possibilities.

[Nihilist.]

1 minute ago, White Shark said:

 

Rockstar's greatest issue which blinds their judgement is how they can squeeze more money out of their fan base.  This is the ultimate problem.  It clouds their minds, resulting in them sacrificing gameplay for micro-transaction possibilities.

That certainly bothers me as well. It seems there's less and less actual, genuine content in every update, yet more obnoxious paywalls. Darn, I miss the second half of 2016. Finance and Felony, Bikers, Cunning  Stunts and I/E - what a combo that was, and so many things to do in the game. Bikers alone had 5 separate businesses, and a clubhouse. Gunrunning has 1 bunker, and After Hours has one club and you can't even do anything with or in it - just sell the product.

Sigh, I hate what happened to this game and how its gameplay was sacrificed for micro-transaction possibilities, as you said.

[Pankypops]

1 hour ago, White Shark said:

A part 2 Arena War DLC worries me.  As much as I liked the new vehicles, mines and some of the clothing, everything was RIDICULOUSLY priced, and the Arena War matches got boring too quick, became empty as no one bothered with them and the payouts were laughable, especially the AP rewards.

 

I don't want any more of this crap.

I think the above mentioned were the least of the problems with the update. You forget the RNG unlocks that got exhausting pretty quickly. I mean, if they were fixed unlocks per level like the normal base Online content then people would have remained interested.
There's also the 'pay more to unlock early', essentially trade prices. While those worked in the past, back then you had to complete specific tasks (whether some missions/heists/setups or fixed number of deliveries), now having to rely on RNGesus completely killed the progression aspect of AW.
Then there's the fact that more than half the vehicles were useless in the arena itself. The only ones that are worth a damn are the Deathbike, Imperator, Issi Classic and Sasquatch, of which the bike is for pussies because of how imbalanced it is.
 

1 hour ago, Son of Dutch said:

I want more PvE stuff cmon

We all do, my brother, we all do. Or at-least anyone with half a brain still does.
 

51 minutes ago, Nihilist. said:

That certainly bothers me as well. It seems there's less and less actual, genuine content in every update, yet more obnoxious paywalls. Darn, I miss the second half of 2016. Finance and Felony, Bikers, Cunning  Stunts and I/E - what a combo that was, and so many things to do in the game. Bikers alone had 5 separate businesses, and a clubhouse. Gunrunning has 1 bunker, and After Hours has one club and you can't even do anything with or in it - just sell the product.

Sigh, I hate what happened to this game and how its gameplay was sacrificed for micro-transaction possibilities, as you said.

This is something that bothers me. Why buy an entire huge facility that's completely useless post DDH when you could have a similar small scale setup inside some discreet warehouse in the city that's owned by Lester and not you (considering how Lester torched his garment factory to destroy the FIB related evidence, but he got the insurance money and had it rebuilt with some tech stuff on a basement level)? The Avenger could have been a Hangar vehicle whereas the other big vehicles (Khanjali, Chernobog, RCV) of DDH could have been fit inside a purchasable floor for the Vehicle warehouse.
I'd rather go back to the apartment heist planning board and hard copies of info for any future heist but we all know that's a pipe dream.

Though, the OPMK2 will always remain the epitome of disgusting paywalls.
 

30 minutes ago, crybaby17h16 said:

rockstar preparing for another sh*tty dlc while browsing this thread be like... lol

 

Well, it'll bite them back in the ass if they keep sh*tting on their fanbase. And don't give me the "they'll still buy the game". We buy the single player masterpieces that their A-teams are dedicated to, not the B/C/D team and T2's microtransaction schemes.

RDRO is a perfect example of this, it's mostly run dry at the moment. They call it a 'Beta' but happily shove in microtransactions in it? Pfft... Maybe it's one of the reasons RDR2 didn't win GOTY, because they were so eager to jump onto the online microtransactions train the moment the game launched with no hope of SP post launch content (Undead Nightmare anyone?).

(Strauss Zelnick is a bell-end)

Edited March 17, 2019 by Pankypops

[crybaby17h16]

rockstar preparing for another sh*tty dlc while browsing this thread be like... lol

 

[Volganor]

Yeah, I'm going to join my opinion to the ones so nicely put together by @White Shark, @Nihilist. and @Pankypops and say that I am another person that doesn't want another god damned Cunning Stunts/Arena War update. The top notch dripfeed doesn't save what is a glorified adversary mode paywalled by a property, forced use of pastel colouring for teams and a completely offensive progression system that is nothing more than disguised loot boxes.

 

I don't log on to a Grand Theft Auto game and endure ten to fifteen minutes of loading to play races in the sky or have my hearing destroyed by those stupid horns constantly blaring inside the Arena while forced to wear neon yellow clothing.
 

What ever happened to the 2014-era updates that included new contact missions for the PvE lovers and simplistic but fun deathmatch/capture/LTS maps for the PvP enthusiasts? You know, the whole crime aspect of the series? Why is it that, for what seems to be the third year in a row, we're going to have to endure through three to four more months of uninspired content using recycled assets when so much better stuff could be made out of the master class map of San Andreas? Or some of the better developed update ideas that the community came up with over the years? Tuners, naval, cops, mansions? Where are those?

 

Yeah, it's free and all that and you're not paying and have some faith and it's a bet- oh wait, wrong game. Well, of course it's all free and I'm not forced to play it if I don't like it. Doesn't stop me from having an opinion, though. And, if I were one of the people that fund these updates, I'd hate to see my money allocated to this kind of useless drivel that keeps this game in state of a coma for the first half of an entire year.

 

I certainly hope something more imaginative comes in the near future for this game. Otherwise, there's great promise out of upcoming games that I can't wait to get my hands on. I heard that a certain space marine is finally coming to PC very soon and that will definitely steal my attention from GTAO if more stuff like Arena War is all that is in store.

[crybaby17h16]

i would like to see a casino heist dlc like ocean's eleven, or just rockstar to bring back luis and yusuf amir, with tony,english dave and lazlow and made a decent dlc with 10 good missions atleast with cutscenes and stuff.. but i doubt this will ever happen,

 

gta online is full of potential and opportunities, but rockstar won't waste a good stories or effort or time in almost a dead game, good stories and stuff are for new and better games to match their new graphics and abilities.. this game kinda just meant to have superficial dlcs in my humble opinion..

[aaron2997]

29 minutes ago, crybaby17h16 said:

i would like to see a casino heist dlc like ocean's eleven

lmao who has ten friends???

 

I'm so lonely...

 

[Hakuan]

V is not dead by any means. It is still one of the most sold games on consoles at least.

40 minutes ago, crybaby17h16 said:

i would like to see a casino heist dlc like ocean's eleven, or just rockstar to bring back luis and yusuf amir, with tony,english dave and lazlow and made a decent dlc with 10 good missions atleast with cutscenes and stuff.. but i doubt this will ever happen,

 

gta online is full of potential and opportunities, but rockstar won't waste a good stories or effort or time in almost a dead game, good stories and stuff are for new and better games to match their new graphics and abilities.. this game kinda just meant to have superficial dlcs in my humble opinion..

 

[Zak Ras]

49 minutes ago, crybaby17h16 said:

a decent dlc with 10 good missions atleast with cutscenes and stuff.. but i doubt this will ever happen,

You see, basic, self contained Storyline DLC's exactly like Lowriders, those would have been excellent and a perfect way to reuse any canned Original Story DLC, hell even any extra Strangers & Freaks subplots would've been nice, along with things to spend money on. But it's more profitable to R* & T2 to have a paywall to restrict the busy elsewhere players access to this stuff. Think about every major content update since 2015.

 

Heists: $200,000 entry minimum for a high-end apartment.

That's before the setup costs.

 

Lowriders: FREE

 

Executives & Other Criminals: Originally only avalible to players with $1,000,000+ for 4 hours of access with a 12 hour cooldown, now you only need $50,000+.

 

Finance & Felony & Import/Export: $1,000,000 minimum for the office alone

That's before a cargo or vehicle warehouse.

 

Bikers: $200,000 minimum for a clubhouse alone.

That's before any of the 5 Businesses or their Upgrades.

 

Gunrunning: $1,165,000 entry minimum.

That's before the MOC, any of the Upgrades or even Research.

Also requires either an Office or Clubhouse or be restricted to 4 hours with a 12 hours cooldown.

 

Smuggler's Run: $1,200,000 entry minimum.

That's before any of the Upgrades.

Also requires either an Office or Clubhouse or be restricted to 4 hours with a 12 hours cooldown.

 

The Doomsday Heist: $1,250,000 entry minimum.

That's before any of the Upgrades or the setup costs.

Also requires either an Office or Clubhouse or be restricted to 4 hours with a 12 hours cooldown.

 

After Hours: $1,080,000 entry minimum.

That's before the Terrorbyte, Garage space or any of the Upgrades.

Also requires either an Office or Clubhouse or be restricted to 4 hours with a 12 hours cooldown.

 

Arena War: $995,000 entry minimum to begin unlocking Trade Prices on clothing, vehicles & upgrades.

That's before any of the Garage Space or any of the Upgrades.

 

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God know's what extra costs they'll add on top of an entry cost to a 3rd Heist DLC.

 

The Casino Heist: $2,000,000 entry minimum for Mansion to launch the Casino Heist missions from + $10,000 Daily Casino Membership Charge + $500,000 Setup Costs

That's before any of the Garage Space or any of the Upgrades.

Also requires either an Office or Clubhouse or be restricted to 4 hours with a 12 hours cooldown.

Edited March 17, 2019 by Zak Ras

[FuturePastNow]

Looks like they've settled on $1 million as the basic cost for properties required to unlock content, +/- 25% and with a lot of upgrades and better locations to drive the price up. Since they've been consistent about that, I wouldn't expect the entry cost to go up significantly, they'll just continue to get people on upgrades.

 

If they do an Arena War Pt 2 (which I don't think is likely, but certainly possible) they can't exactly sell us the Arena garage again, so I'd expect that update to also include some other kind of luxury property. I don't want to say mansions, I don't think R* is ambitious enough. But something.

[Mach1bud]

2 minutes ago, FuturePastNow said:

Looks like they've settled on $1 million as the basic cost for properties required to unlock content, +/- 25% and with a lot of upgrades and better locations to drive the price up. Since they've been consistent about that, I wouldn't expect the entry cost to go up significantly, they'll just continue to get people on upgrades.

There is a reason for that. 

 

The $20 shark card (the best selling one) is 1.25 mil. 

 

Same reason most cars hover in the 750k to 1.5 mil range. 

[EVOLUT7ON]

IMO, summer time is perfect for a big Casino dlc and spring - for a naval dlc (we didn't have anything from that group for a while) with a drip-feed of vehicles we ask for/need/want.

[Pankypops]

47 minutes ago, Hakuan said:

V is not dead by any means. It is still one of the most sold games on consoles at least.

 

No one claimed that it's dead. People here are upset at how the Online playerbase is being treated with a narrow minded focus on amassing money with the least effort, something that EA is very popular for and is losing stock value over.

It's because people love R* that they're upset at how much they've changed since 2015-2016, they don't seem like the same company anymore. Or maybe it's T2's influence now that the parent company has seen the microtransaction sunshine.

 

38 minutes ago, Zak Ras said:

You see, basic, self contained Storyline DLC's exactly like Lowriders, those would have been excellent and a perfect way to reuse any canned Original Story DLC, hell even any extra Strangers & Freaks subplots would've been nice, along with things to spend money on. But it's more profitable to R* & T2 to have a paywall to restrict the busy elsewhere players access to this stuff. Think about every major content update since 2015.

 

Heists: $200,000 entry minimum for a high-end apartment.

That's before the setup costs.

 

Lowriders: FREE

 

Executives & Other Criminals: Originally only avalible to players with $1,000,000+ for 4 hours of access with a 12 hour cooldown, now you only need $50,000+.

 

Finance & Felony & Import/Export: $1,000,000 minimum for the office alone

That's before a cargo or vehicle warehouse.

 

Bikers: $200,000 minimum for a clubhouse alone.

That's before any of the 5 Businesses or their Upgrades.

 

Gunrunning: $1,165,000 entry minimum.

That's before the MOC, any of the Upgrades or even Research.

Also requires either an Office or Clubhouse or be restricted to 4 hours with a 12 hours cooldown.

 

Smuggler's Run: $1,200,000 entry minimum.

That's before any of the Upgrades.

Also requires either an Office or Clubhouse or be restricted to 4 hours with a 12 hours cooldown.

 

The Doomsday Heist: $1,250,000 entry minimum.

That's before any of the Upgrades or the setup costs.

Also requires either an Office or Clubhouse or be restricted to 4 hours with a 12 hours cooldown.

 

After Hours: $1,080,000 entry minimum.

That's before the Terrorbyte, Garage space or any of the Upgrades.

Also requires either an Office or Clubhouse or be restricted to 4 hours with a 12 hours cooldown.

 

Arena War: $995,000 entry minimum to begin unlocking Trade Prices on clothing, vehicles & upgrades.

That's before any of the Garage Space or any of the Upgrades.

 

---

 

God know's what extra costs they'll add on top of an entry cost to a 3rd Heist DLC.

 

The Casino Heist: $2,000,000 entry minimum for Mansion to launch the Casino Heist missions from + $10,000 Daily Casino Membership Charge + $500,000 Setup Costs

That's before any of the Garage Space or any of the Upgrades.

Also requires either an Office or Clubhouse or be restricted to 4 hours with a 12 hours cooldown.

In the case of the apartment, those were available long before Heists. The Heists just added setup costs, and mostly it was actually a good payout compared to the time consumption. Pac Standard overall could be completed within 45 minutes for decent payout. Compare that to DDH Act 3 and you have all that boring freemode prep work, then the artificial (LAZY PROGRAMMING) difficulty to deal with, and the excessively long finale. Not worth it.

The Clubhouse and Office were actually good additions and were acceptable paywalls, the offices even gave us three 20 car garages. Everything after that has been blatantly disgusting and mostly useless or just lazily handled.

Edited March 17, 2019 by Pankypops

[Rumblebud]

34 minutes ago, Zak Ras said:

The Casino Heist: $2,000,000 entry minimum for Mansion to launch the Casino Heist missions from + $10,000 Daily Casino Membership Charge + $500,000 Setup Costs

That's before any of the Garage Space or any of the Upgrades.

Also requires either an Office or Clubhouse or be restricted to 4 hours with a 12 hours cooldown.

I like this idea. Even mansions would be a step up from the current Vinewood Hills properties, as well as making use of that casino property and designing an actual interior to fit it! 

 

Kind of reminds me of the planned Story Mode heist "The Sharmoota Job" taking place at La Fuente Blanca, which was eventually scrapped during development.

[Zak Ras]

2 minutes ago, CanadianMuscle said:

I like this idea. Even mansions would be a step up from the current Vinewood Hills properties, as well as making use of that casino property and designing an actual interior to fit it! 

 

Kind of reminds me of the planned Story Mode heist "The Sharmoota Job" taking place at La Fuente Blanca, which was eventually scrapped during development.

Just so long as they don't reuse the original unused Fleeca Job setup missions... specfically the "Casanova" setup mission, you'll never find a team of players willing to do that one.

Edited March 17, 2019 by Zak Ras