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Dan Houser thankful for not releasing GTA VI in the current political climate.

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Mirror Park Resident

Inb4 they release Bully 2. A non controversial whatsoever game.

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Jabalous
12 minutes ago, Fluffy Sock said:

Inb4 they release Bully 2. A non controversial whatsoever game.

Politically? Maybe, but socially? I will leave you with the link below.

 

http://bully.wikia.com/wiki/Controversy_surrounding_Bully

 

Sometimes it feels like someone(s) out there is looking for ways to undermine what R* is publishing, creating controversy out of nowhere. 

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Mirror Park Resident
2 hours ago, Jabalous said:

Politically? Maybe, but socially? I will leave you with the link below.

 

http://bully.wikia.com/wiki/Controversy_surrounding_Bully

 

Sometimes it feels like someone(s) out there is looking for ways to undermine what R* is publishing, creating controversy out of nowhere. 

It was sarcasm. Off course Bully was controversial. And the antibullying campaigns are a stronger thing now.

 

If Houser fears controversy regarding GTA VI, he better be prepared in case Buly 2 is indeed their next title. 

 

Nah, I don't buy his words anyway. They'll do what they do well, no matter the rest. He only fears checks not coming home.

Edited by Fluffy Sock

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HelloMyNameIsHuman
5 hours ago, Jabalous said:

Politically? Maybe, but socially? I will leave you with the link below.

 

http://bully.wikia.com/wiki/Controversy_surrounding_Bully

 

Sometimes it feels like someone(s) out there is looking for ways to undermine what R* is publishing, creating controversy out of nowhere. 

Oh, there are. Anyone who carries The Message is under constant attack. Just like James Gunn for example (same secret in the Guardians of the Galaxy movies as the GTA V chiliad mystery).

 

The more you are either defending or attacking someone, the less you notice what they are actually saying. That is why they do it. It's the cold war. It's the entire basis of the GTA V story, the fact that the cold war never ended, and trickled down from a feud between countries, to a division between neighbors, brothers, spouses, parent and child. Remember, the pills don't do anything. They are illusions. This is why the illusion is perpetrated: To make sure you never come together and observe together and blend together. Division is the strategy, as it provides instant distraction.

 

This is the same reason those people kept posting religious stuff around the release of GTA V: To turn you off to the messages in the game, which are all deeply religious, many things are, people just don't associate it, so the live and die completely unaware that Star Lord is a Junker/Salvage boy aka Lord of Salvation. All the MCU characters are like that. There's a lot to say, plenty of things that easily prove it, but people are constantly working against it, even here.

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Jabalous

I cannot imagine that they've not been working on GTA 6 for a quite some time now. Houser was probably bluffing and trying to lower expectations of what the next title in the crime series will be about. Keep'em guessin', keep'em speculatin'.  

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Aquamaniac

Do you think the increasing number of car attacks, recently in Germany and Japan will be a problem for a future GTA, it's a rather new phenomenon. Might high wanted levels for running over pedestrians weaken the controversy since you could argue that the game punishes you for doing so? I could imagine a future GTA to have a difficult stand in France or Germany e.g.

 

 

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Ondr4H

Dan Houser is only afraid of losing that green paper.

So in the finale GTA 6 will be PC game, that doesnt offend anybody.

And with battle royale!

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Zello
8 hours ago, Aquamaniac said:

Do you think the increasing number of car attacks, recently in Germany and Japan will be a problem for a future GTA, it's a rather new phenomenon. Might high wanted levels for running over pedestrians weaken the controversy since you could argue that the game punishes you for doing so? I could imagine a future GTA to have a difficult stand in France or Germany e.g.

 

 

Have you been reading Animalfather's posts? 

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JoeFury1997

It's obvious GTA 6 is in development and probably has been since 2013, stuff like radio parodies and political sh*t probably gets saved till last during development so that it's relevant when the game releases. Take two will still want the game to be released regardless of political stuff because they care more about making money than delaying a game due to the in game radio not being funny enough.

 

I still think the setting will be modern day just to appeal to everyone. You can always add in old cars/music etc whilst still adding modern stuff just to please different players. Yeah sure having a gta in the 80s again would be cool but realistically I don't see it happening.

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Arnold Stallone
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On 1/4/2019 at 6:54 AM, Aquamaniac said:

Do you think the increasing number of car attacks, recently in Germany and Japan will be a problem for a future GTA, it's a rather new phenomenon. Might high wanted levels for running over pedestrians weaken the controversy since you could argue that the game punishes you for doing so? I could imagine a future GTA to have a difficult stand in France or Germany e.g.

 

Honestly, I don't think it will have any impact on the GTA series in these countries or any other countries at all.

Edited by Arnold Stallone

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Grotti Vigilante
On 1/4/2019 at 11:54 AM, Aquamaniac said:

Do you think the increasing number of car attacks, recently in Germany and Japan will be a problem for a future GTA, it's a rather new phenomenon. Might high wanted levels for running over pedestrians weaken the controversy since you could argue that the game punishes you for doing so? I could imagine a future GTA to have a difficult stand in France or Germany e.g.

 

 

Quite honestly I think that if GTA hasn't been hurt by mass shootings that occur in the United States several times per year, then I don't think the odd vehicular attack in Europe would really hurt the game. I mean I could always be wrong, but I'm just making judgement with what I know.

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Aquamaniac
13 hours ago, Grotti Vigilante said:

Quite honestly I think that if GTA hasn't been hurt by mass shootings that occur in the United States several times per year, then I don't think the odd vehicular attack in Europe would really hurt the game. I mean I could always be wrong, but I'm just making judgement with what I know.

That's different, gun violence was always part of movies and games, most people in the world have no access to guns, but people all over the world have access to cars. There were also vehicle attacks in Canada and the US. Do you get my point why I consider "car-violence" potentially more controversial than gun crime, it's the availability of cars and the novelty of the phenomenon, the truck attack in France 2016 left more people dead than the Las Vegas Shooting.

 

On 1/4/2019 at 8:59 PM, Zello said:

Have you been reading Animalfather's posts? 

No, where can I find them?

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Grotti Vigilante
5 hours ago, Aquamaniac said:

That's different, gun violence was always part of movies and games, most people in the world have no access to guns, but people all over the world have access to cars. There were also vehicle attacks in Canada and the US. Do you get my point why I consider "car-violence" potentially more controversial than gun crime, it's the availability of cars and the novelty of the phenomenon, the truck attack in France 2016 left more people dead than the Las Vegas Shooting.

I can see the point you’re trying to make, but I still don’t see how the availablity of cars makes it any more prone to controversy. I mean GTA is always set in the US, where gun availability is much greater than most other places in the world, and thousands of people every year are murdered with them. The Las Vegas massscre may not have caused more deaths than the truck attack in France, but that I’d not a common phenomen that has often been blamed on GTA, whereas gun violence happens often in the US and has even had discredited lawyers look at GTA and call it a murder simulator, blaming it a few times directly. Put it this way, given that GTA has been blamed for all that stuff and still sells, I don’t think the odd truck attack is going to phase it.

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Wolff

Very strange, disappointing he seems to imply that satire of current events are one of the core elements of the entire game. I'd rather just have a good crime story than a comedy game, the satire should be kept subtle, like in the older games (mostly limited to radio/commercials) if you ask me.

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WFD1992

Mock nazis (including the Alt Right). They may get angry....but who the f*ck cares, they're nazis. 

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Grotti Vigilante
14 minutes ago, WFD1992 said:

Mock nazis (including the Alt Right). They may get angry....but who the f*ck cares, they're nazis. 

The last Scotsman who mocked Nazis ended up getting in trouble and almost went to jail. But staying on topic, Rockstar North would mock whoever they wanted, and you can probably imagine a mockery of Neo-Nazis in the next GTA. I'd quite like to see a commercial for a candidate worse than Jock Cranley who straight up says "I will bring about policies that disadvantage minority groups and favour white supremacy while still insisting to my opponents that I am not racist". But that itself goes back to the point Dan Houser made in that some groups in the US are genuinely like that, so the satire kind of wears off. Long as they mock the left and right, I don't care. They can mock me personally, and I'd still love it.

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Aquamaniac
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18 hours ago, Grotti Vigilante said:

I can see the point you’re trying to make, but I still don’t see how the availablity of cars makes it any more prone to controversy. I mean GTA is always set in the US, where gun availability is much greater than most other places in the world, and thousands of people every year are murdered with them. The Las Vegas massscre may not have caused more deaths than the truck attack in France, but that I’d not a common phenomen that has often been blamed on GTA, whereas gun violence happens often in the US and has even had discredited lawyers look at GTA and call it a murder simulator, blaming it a few times directly. Put it this way, given that GTA has been blamed for all that stuff and still sells, I don’t think the odd truck attack is going to phase it.

I guess we'll see whenever a future GTA is released. I think you didn't really understand my point, but it might be flawed anyways.

 

11 hours ago, WFD1992 said:

Mock nazis (including the Alt Right). They may get angry....but who the f*ck cares, they're nazis. 

 

Nazis as you call them are not as whiny as SJWs or liberals, nazis would still play GTA even if it would mock them, nazis also play Wolfenstein.

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WFD1992
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4 hours ago, Aquamaniac said:

I guess we'll see whenever a future GTA is released. I think you didn't really understand my point, but it might be flawed anyways.

 

 

Nazis as you call them are not as whiny as SJWs or liberals, nazis would still play GTA even if it would mock them, nazis also play Wolfenstein.

Well, even more reason for the next GTA to focus on mocking them, since there would be no risk (though, from my personal experience Nazis are the most whiny, they just hide it behind a veneer of "why can't you take a joke"). Also, I myself am a Leftist (NOT a Liberal) and a SJW.

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Agent Tanner
On 12/4/2018 at 4:27 AM, killdrivetheftvehicle said:

It's still over a year until 2020. And that's when Trump administration hopefully will be just a bad dream....

Oh, Christ... 🙄 We don't need your pontificating on the 'evils' of the Trump administration. Thank you. From my point of view, Trudeau, Macron, Merkel, and the rest of the gang of bumbling, incompetent, kleptocratic EU bureaucrats make perfect fodder for parody.

 

On 1/6/2019 at 1:08 PM, WFD1992 said:

Mock nazis (including the Alt Right). They may get angry....but who the f*ck cares, they're nazis. 

Mock Commies too (including antifa) They may get angry...but who the f*ck cares, they're Commies.

 

On 1/7/2019 at 5:36 AM, WFD1992 said:

We Also, I myself am a Leftist (NOT a Liberal) and a SJW.

Same sh*t, different asshole.

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inkoalawetrust
4 hours ago, Agent Tanner said:

Oh, Christ... 🙄 We don't need your pontificating on the 'evils' of the Trump administration. Thank you. From my point of view, Trudeau, Macron, Merkel, and the rest of the gang of bumbling, incompetent, kleptocratic EU bureaucrats make perfect fodder for parody.

 

Mock Commies too (including antifa) They may get angry...but who the f*ck cares, they're Commies.

 

Same sh*t, different asshole.

Mock both

 

That's what Rockstar has been doing since forever now when it comes to parodying society and/or politics, they basically make fun of everyone and everything.

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berzelmayr
On 1/7/2019 at 9:43 AM, Aquamaniac said:

I guess we'll see whenever a future GTA is released. I think you didn't really understand my point, but it might be flawed anyways.

There's actually a list of vehicle-ramming attacks on wikipedia and it seems to have been a rare phenomenon before the 2000s, but I guess it became more prevalent in recent times, as it is a very simple "method" compared to attacks with guns (that means outside the US) or bombs, and not so much for the prominence of this video game series .....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle-ramming_attack

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Lioshenka

Though, here's an idea regarding the current political climate. R* have always cut off the map with oceans and mountains; well, this time they could BUILD A WALL.

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TrinityCR

I both believe work on the next GTA is well underway and hope that it doesn't lose any of its classic satirical edge because of current "touchy" political views. Reading through this thread I do however begrudgingly agree that perhaps the idea well is running a little low in the crime department. To throw my two cents in I would prefer a game set in the past, I've always thought a 1930's Great Depression era GTA set in San Fierro or Chicago would be incredible. I'd say this would avoid most controversy but people complain about anything nowa' days. Hopefully we'll get our answers soon enough.

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Hmmm nice bike
20 hours ago, TrinityCR said:

To throw my two cents in I would prefer a game set in the past, I've always thought a 1930's Great Depression era GTA set in San Fierro or Chicago would be incredible

Personally, I think the 1930s is just too far back in time for a GTA to be set to the point that it'd feel almost like a different game, but anything between the 1960s and early 2000s would be great and would suit GTA well. I know some rumors I read a while ago mentioned that there would be a game featuring Vice City set in two eras, and if they did something like that, they should set the first era in the 80s as a throwback to the Miami Vice/Scarface/Vice City era, and the second in 2002 (reference to VC's original release and the fact that it's the early 2000s). Two time periods that aren't modern day that can easily be parodied, and it won't piss people off as much if they truly are worried about how political things are these days.

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HelloMyNameIsHuman

That's true, Hmmm nice bike.

 

People would applaud GTA series for tearing apart the past - it would also give them ammo for the things still going on today. In reality, Dan Houser is, pretty much, full of crap.

 

I always accepted that, both published under Take2 Games same publishing house, and often times even sharing some of the same art and sound assets, "Mafia" series was the GTA for "before the eighties".

 

"Grand Theft Auto" is for the 80s and onward. There is no room for a Grand Theft Auto that takes place before this time. It really would feel like a completely different game series. That's for Mafia, imo. That's a completely different world. Reagan and onward, trickle down economics, technologically organized crime and politics, the effects of the cold war on day to day relationships to this very day. This is GTA, in my opinion. 

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CapoV91

I'm getting old i cant wait 10 years between gta games... at that rate i will be in my 70s by the time gta 10 comes around lol 

 

On another note i think the big boys at R* simply aren't the young guys who were oozing ideas and creativity like they used to.

 

They are more hesitant, more careful about how they get across whatever message they are trying to communicate and much more focused on perfection compared to rockstars earlier days just pumping out games and giving no f*cks

Edited by CapoV91

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HOW'S ANNIE?
6 hours ago, JuliusCaesar said:

"Grand Theft Auto" is for the 80s and onward. There is no room for a Grand Theft Auto that takes place before this time. It really would feel like a completely different game series. That's for Mafia, imo. That's a completely different world. Reagan and onward, trickle down economics, technologically organized crime and politics, the effects of the cold war on day to day relationships to this very day. This is GTA, in my opinion. 

I'm not so much targeting this at you personally, but I've seen this opinion floating around the forums a lot. But why can't the 70s work just as well for GTA? You've got Nixon, the Vietnam war, the rise of major corporations across the US, booming drug culture, the beginnings of the modern anti-establishment, people waking up to the absurdity of the classic "American Dream". The 70s is such a ripe period for GTA.

Edited by HOW'S ANNIE?

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RDR2Fan101

Yeah I’m not sure why Damn houser is concerned about it. Gta 5 exposes some of the real life issues we have in society. Like the torture sequence that shows that using violence to get information from someone is wrong, and it happens in this world. 

 

Gta is making the issues of our society into satire. That’s literally all it’s doing that could possibly offend people. But I’d hope that doesn’t mean Gta 6 isn’t at least in full development by now. If it’s not then Bully 2 should be releasing soon.

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HelloMyNameIsHuman

I just think that is better suited for the kind of storytelling you find in Mafia games, a narrative, telling a story of the past. Like an episode of The Wonder Years, if you are familiar with this show.

 

The Mafia III thing. You go kind of "that far" into the past, and you lose relevancy and you go into a just really different kind of game and different way of storytelling to sell such an old era to the player psyche.

 

When you watch goodfellas, that's like a Mafia game more than a GTA game. You'd have to change so much about what makes GTA what it is, that it would be like changing it into Mafia, to do the theme right and represent 70s media right. It would be too different. A great example of why it would be bad is looking at all the games that are like GTA but based in those times. It's just not exciting, it's pre-cable. Cable TV, MTV. This is the beginning of the GTA Universe. Times before that were too simple and people were too sane, in so few, easily criticized words, so cut me some slack on that last part 😛

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Lancerator

correct me if i'm wrong but it's not like the old days when politicians forced developers to either restrict or change some code (i.e hillary clinton) in their game, moreover typical rockstar who is characterized by their controversial content in their gta games

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