The Official B*tch & Moan Thread (Part 2)

[B7R]

Dispatch III or IV or whatever the hell it is

Target already taken out now the next task to do is leave LSIA & lose the wanted level. Apparently for the f*cking people I was playing with this was too hard of a f*cking task to do. 

 

Edited June 4, 2018 by B7R

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

13 hours ago, Arrows to Athens said:

I never fly with it. It's better to drive.

And just because one Deluxo driver is destroying everything that moves doesn't mean all people who drive the Deluxo are "twats". I've never understood why Akulas, Hunters, and Savages get a free pass when killing with them, but jets, Oppressors, and Deluxos are indicative of a scumbag/kid.

 

How many times do you someone in a Hunter or Savage griefing?

 

Now how many times do you see someone in a mememobile or a jet griefing?

 

Even the Akula which it's perfect for creeping up on players barely gets used somehow.

[Jimrod]

That’s probably because the Akula is a bit of a dog to fly. I’m finding the Sea Sparrow far more effective than most.

 

My bitch is try-hards, I’m not sure if some people are just far better at the game but doing a King of the Castle in Paleto Bay just now and having a bright red Lazer show on the map I knew what was coming - I was hit instantly through the window, by the time I respawned the fully masked-up spaceman was already on top of the tower and proceeded to instantly kill me 10 times, wherever I was, with guns out of my lock on reach, even when I was at the bottom of the 5 flights of stairs he somehow shot-gunned me from the 5th floor through all the steps. I’m sure he plays with the same game mechanics I do but spawn-killing me instantly, wherever I spawned, despite buildings just seems a bit too good.  

[Lupo-Akane]

6 minutes ago, Jimrod said:

That’s probably because the Akula is a bit of a dog to fly. I’m finding the Sea Sparrow far more effective than most.

 

My bitch is try-hards, I’m not sure if some people are just far better at the game but doing a King of the Castle in Paleto Bay just now and having a bright red Lazer show on the map I knew what was coming - I was hit instantly through the window, by the time I respawned the fully masked-up spaceman was already on top of the tower and proceeded to instantly kill me 10 times, wherever I was, with guns out of my lock on reach, even when I was at the bottom of the 5 flights of stairs he somehow shot-gunned me from the 5th floor through all the steps. I’m sure he plays with the same game mechanics I do but spawn-killing me instantly, wherever I spawned, despite buildings just seems a bit too good.  

I turned that event off a long time ago, it was fun to play but but to many god mode users and jets just ruined it.

I like Akula, I find it better to use than the hunter. For one it does not look like it's going to turn over when flying it like the hunters stupid side to side movement but the sea sparrow is awesome.

[Jimrod]

 

19 minutes ago, Lupo-Akane said:

I turned that event off a long time ago, it was fun to play but but to many god mode users and jets just ruined it.

I like Akula, I find it better to use than the hunter. For one it does not look like it's going to turn over when flying it like the hunters stupid side to side movement but the sea sparrow is awesome.

 

Yeah the Akula isn’t terrible but it has that weird continual lift under acceleration which makes it feel really awkward to me, I thought I’d use it far more than I do! I think I got spoiled by only having a Buzzard for so long before!

Edited June 3, 2018 by Jimrod

[4ward]

21 minutes ago, Jimrod said:

Yeah the Akula isn’t terrible but it has that weird continual lift under acceleration which makes it feel really awkward to me, I thought I’d use it far more than I do! I think I got spoiled by only having a Buzzard for so long before!

 

It wont lift up as much with the stock engine upgrade.

Edited June 3, 2018 by 4ward

[Big Molio]

15 hours ago, Arrows to Athens said:

I never fly with it. It's better to drive.

And just because one Deluxo driver is destroying everything that moves doesn't mean all people who drive the Deluxo are "twats". I've never understood why Akulas, Hunters, and Savages get a free pass when killing with them, but jets, Oppressors, and Deluxos are indicative of a scumbag/kid.

 

I should have said “mostly twats” rather than “only twats”. 

 

Forgive my rhetoric (I hate the damn thing)

[whywontyoulisten]

6 minutes ago, 4ward said:

 

It wont lift up as much with the stock engine upgrade.

Or just not mash the trigger to the stops and employ a little subtlety.

Edited June 3, 2018 by whywontyoulisten

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

Passive Mode in weaponized vehicles needs to go

 

Seriously, it's so goddamn annoying defending a sale from a coward who Passive pops with his Hydra at the last minute to destroy a sale, then he either goes Passive again or bails out if hit.

 

What's the f*cking point? You want to be a dick? At least own it and face the consequences.

[Naroon]

I love that this thread is still going strong 4 years later.

 

Also happy to see C* didn't fix their garbage AI. Can't wait to see what they do with GTA6 when it releases in 2032.

[SideStunt]

1 hour ago, Naroon said:

Can't wait to see what they do with GTA6 when it releases in 2032.

Ssshhh, don’t give clickbait tubers any ideas to make another GTA 6 video ;D 

OMFGFGGCBFBRBH GTA 6 DELAYED UNTIL 2032?!?!!111 QnA (GTA 5 6) 

On-topic: Apparently the 3 players that I was playing Dispatch V with (all 3 were levels 200 and above) didn’t notice that we had like 1 min and a half left to kill two more targets (one on the balcony, and the other at the mansion) so I had to jump into a stock Dominator (after killing the construction site target) and floor it to the mansion. Then after that book it to the balcony target with 30 seconds to spare at the end, phew! 

Also it grinds my gears that players who are above level 90 keep the mission difficulty on normal. The Dispatch missions are easy on hard, especially without weaponized vehicles. 

Edited June 3, 2018 by SideStunt

[Big Molio]

Noobs, jet kills of my character whilst I'm AFK sorting my lawnmower out don't really warrant "6-0 noob trash XD" type messages. I mean, come on...

[Mrs. Buzz]

playing dispatch playlist with lowlevel random.

1st mission: He dies and dies. I finish the mission alone.

2nd mission: He dies and dies. I finish the mission alone.

3rd mission we get a spectator, spectator leaves, lowlevel dies and dies again, mission now ends.

 

gg, R*.

[Lonely-Martin]

20 hours ago, Awesom-0 said:

I just love, love, love, love, love getting spawn killed by these over powered A.I. in their Buzzards and P-996 Lazers who never miss with their machine guns and missiles. It's SOOOO fun! 

Sarcasm aside, This sh*t is f*cking annoying. Are R* really so lazy that they can't bother implementing proper A.I. that doesn't rely on being OP? It's a f*cking nightmare trying any of the Bunker or Hanger missions because you always run the risk of being spawn killed by them. This is the kind of crap which makes me hate this game.

How can they expect players to play fair when they don't? 

 

Yeah, anytime I fancy manually resupplying my bunker, I always find a new session when that APC collection job pops up. 

 

Hate that job.

[TCA]

2 hours ago, Mrs. Buzz said:

playing dispatch playlist with lowlevel random.

1st mission: He dies and dies. I finish the mission alone.

2nd mission: He dies and dies. I finish the mission alone.

3rd mission we get a spectator, spectator leaves, lowlevel dies and dies again, mission now ends.

 

gg, R*.

Wish they hadn’t of made theme 2-4 I could’ve made serious dosh. I did eventually do it with some randumbs and by the 3rd I left bc one moron with his stupid vigilante decided it would be funny to power into a gas station attempting to kill us, that didn’t work bc the host had it on normal....which they was a high level and idk, we could’ve made 37-40k for at least first 4 and only made 16-22k -_-‘ 

[Boozey St John]

8 minutes ago, TCA said:

Wish they hadn’t of made theme 2-4 I could’ve made serious dosh. I did eventually do it with some randumbs and by the 3rd I left bc one moron with his stupid vigilante decided it would be funny to power into a gas station attempting to kill us, that didn’t work bc the host had it on normal....which they was a high level and idk, we could’ve made 37-40k for at least first 4 and only made 16-22k -_-‘ 

 

Apparently, the longer you take to complete contact missions, the more cash you get.

 

I was told this a while back and I've been testing it and it seems to be true. I'm not saying it's textbook but that's just what I've observed.

[TCA]

5 minutes ago, Boozey St James said:

 

Apparently, the longer you take to complete contact missions, the more cash you get.

 

I was told this a while back and I've been testing it and it seems to be true. I'm not saying it's textbook but that's just what I've observed.

Yeah they’re time based. Been like that for a few years now. I mean I can make what I got on there just doing TLSC. Hoping to jump on today and do some more if it’s not riddled with deluxos and oppressors. Kinda why I haven’t been doing them much. Wish it was 1-4 not 2-4 still.

Edited June 3, 2018 by TCA

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[Arrows to Athens]

14 hours ago, Lupo-Akane said:

Really never see anything but jets, broomstick and meme car killing crap.

Only time I see a Savage is if someone is doing headhunter, or if I bring min out.

 

So you're justifying Hunter and Akula grieifing on the basis that it's not as common?

9 hours ago, Voodoo-Hendrix said:

 

How many times do you someone in a Hunter or Savage griefing?

 

Now how many times do you see someone in a mememobile or a jet griefing?

 

Even the Akula which it's perfect for creeping up on players barely gets used somehow.

Right, so it's justfifiable for a Hunter to grief simply because it's not as prevalent. By this logic, if griefing was more prevalent with the Akula, Savage, or Hunter, then you would be okay with Deluxos and Oppressors griefing, since they're not as common.

 

So it's not the type of vehicle used that's the problem -- it's how often it's used generally.

 

Hmmm...

 

It's kinda like hating certain types of music only because they're popular. Well, most popular music is trash, so I'll give you that, but that's subjective. I'm gonna have to agree and disagree here. I would rather prefer to grief in a vehicle that's not as widely used; it makes everything more interesting and fun because it's not the norm. But it's still illogical to oppose Oppressor griefers simply because their weapon of choice is the popular one.

Edited June 3, 2018 by Arrows to Athens

[Lupo-Akane]

53 minutes ago, Arrows to Athens said:

So you're justifying Hunter and Akula grieifing on the basis that it's not as common?

Right, so it's justfifiable for a Hunter to grief simply because it's not as prevalent. By this logic, if griefing was more prevalent with the Akula, Savage, or Hunter, then you would be okay with Deluxos and Oppressors griefing, since they're not as common.

 

So it's not the type of vehicle used that's the problem -- it's how often it's used generally.

 

Hmmm...

 

It's kinda like hating certain types of music only because they're popular. Well, most popular music is trash, so I'll give you that, but that's subjective. I'm gonna have to agree and disagree here. I would rather prefer to grief in a vehicle that's not as widely used; it makes everything more interesting and fun because it's not the norm. But it's still illogical to oppose Oppressor griefers simply because their weapon of choice is the popular one.

No, but I don't see them killing anything it's always the broomstick, flying car. 

But for you're information, many players shoot down choppers if they get to close anyway. It's the state of the game any more, it's safer to kill it now rather than be killed by it.

And I really hate to be that person, but like how most tell them peeps that don't want their crates and stuff shot to crap....

Play in an solo public session if you don't want to be shot down.

[Mach1bud]

I admit I have seen almost zero Hunters or Akulas flying around in freeroam. The only time I saw either one, it was one of my friends.

 

But have seen plenty of jets, Oppressors, and Deluxo's causing havok.

 

That's actually my B&M, nothing to do with the griefing, I just don't see Hunters and I would like to see some more cause they are pretty cool choppers tbh.

[Arrows to Athens]

14 minutes ago, Lupo-Akane said:

No, but I don't see them killing anything it's always the broomstick, flying car. 

 

I've seen a few killing players in BS. I've seen Akulas in stealth sneaking up on players and getting easy kills, which I think is worse than anything else in this game. You literally have permanent off-radar with that thing. Had this stealth feature been on a Deluxo , for example, there would be a massive backlash from the GTA Online community, but it's okay for it to be on an attack helicopter. I just don't get it. I've seen Savages cause some havoc, too. They're all greifing in my eyes, regardless of the vehicle type. Favouring another vehicle simply because it's less common is a bit hypocritical, if you ask me.

 

 

10 minutes ago, Mach1bud said:

I admit I have seen almost zero Hunters or Akulas flying around in freeroam. The only time I saw either one, it was one of my friends.

 

But have seen plenty of jets, Oppressors, and Deluxo's causing havok.

 

That's actually my B&M, nothing to do with the griefing, I just don't see Hunters and I would like to see some more cause they are pretty cool choppers tbh.

"I admit I have seen almost zero Hunters or Akulas flying around in freeroam."

 

Refer to my post above^

 

"But have seen plenty of jets, Oppressors, and Deluxo's causing havok."

 

I understand that. My argument is: is it reasonable to oppose something just because it's more prevalent, especially when favouring one grieifng vehicle over another on the basis that it's less common?

Edited June 3, 2018 by Arrows to Athens

[PaeganLoveSong]

The Akula needs to come out of stealth before it can strike, though, and none of the helicopters or jets have missiles like the Oppressor/Deluxo/R2K. There's a sense of balance with a helicopter that isn't there with the mememobiles, and I'm saying that as a Deluxo user. 

[Arrows to Athens]

1 minute ago, PaeganLoveSong said:

The Akula needs to come out of stealth before it can strike, though, and none of the helicopters or jets have missiles like the Oppressor/Deluxo/R2K. There's a sense of balance with a helicopter that isn't there with the mememobiles, and I'm saying that as a Deluxo user. 

That's the point. Anyone can just surprise attack you. Exit stealth mode, kill, then go back to stealth, and continue your spree.

[Mach1bud]

6 minutes ago, Arrows to Athens said:

I understand that. My argument is: is it reasonable to oppose something just because it's more prevalent, especially when favouring one grieifng vehicle over another on the basis that it's less common?

 

Well, yes, it is reasonable I'd say. The only reason the are more prevelent is because they offer a significant advantage over other vehicles with missiles strapped to them, which is manuverability, speed, ease of use and most importantly accessibility. Unlike the choppers which are easily shot out of the sky and not as easily obtained (aside from the Hydra/Lazer which are on level ground for accessibility).

 

Sure they can all be used to grief, but the 3 mentioned most common are most common for a reason, they are the most deadly and most difficult to counter, especially for a casual player.

 

But that's just my take on it, I generally don't have issues with griefing so this isn't really my area of expertise in the game.

[PaeganLoveSong]

8 minutes ago, Arrows to Athens said:

That's the point. Anyone can just surprise attack you. Exit stealth mode, kill, then go back to stealth, and continue your spree.

True, but they're easier to deal with than Deluxos or Oppressors since they're much bigger targets and aren't as maneuverable. It's anecdotal evidence, sure, but I've always been able to counter an Akula whereas a Deluxo or an Oppressor can GTFO of Dodge quicker. 

[Arrows to Athens]

20 minutes ago, Mach1bud said:

 

Well, yes, it is reasonable I'd say. The only reason the are more prevelent is because they offer a significant advantage over other vehicles with missiles strapped to them, which is manuverability, speed, ease of use and most importantly accessibility. Unlike the choppers which are easily shot out of the sky and not as easily obtained (aside from the Hydra/Lazer which are on level ground for accessibility).

 

Sure they can all be used to grief, but the 3 mentioned most common are most common for a reason, they are the most deadly and most difficult to counter, especially for a casual player.

 

But that's just my take on it, I generally don't have issues with griefing so this isn't really my area of expertise in the game.

So grieifing with, say, an attack chopper is more justifiable because it requires more skill and effort than, say, the Deluxo. It may require more skill and effort, but does that still justify the griefing? As long as the griefing takes skill and effort, it's justifiable? I'm NOT saying it's not justifiable, just want to see your point of view. I would honestly rather get griefed by someone using a vehicle that requires more skill and effort, too, but does it still justify the greifing is the question.

 

Also, I wouldn't say the Oppressor is easy to use, either, as much as a silly concept of a vehicle it is. Apart from the quick and easy retrieval via the Motorcylce club, it is quite balanced, with a limited boost that requires contact with a surface to get back, and difficulty associated with taking out on-foot targets. Also, if you're locked on with rockets, it's hard to dodge them, and many jump off the bike to escape death.

Edited June 3, 2018 by Arrows to Athens

[gtafan26]

4 hours ago, KWF1981 said:

 

Yeah, anytime I fancy manually resupplying my bunker, I always find a new session when that APC collection job pops up. 

 

Hate that job.

Same here, I wont bother with that anymore, and there are a few other resupply runs that I am starting to avoid as well.

[Arrows to Athens]

12 minutes ago, PaeganLoveSong said:

True, but they're easier to deal with than Deluxos or Oppressors since they're much bigger targets and aren't as maneuverable. It's anecdotal evidence, sure, but I've always been able to counter an Akula whereas a Deluxo or an Oppressor can GTFO of Dodge quicker. 

Oppressors are easy to take out, though, despite them being small and agile. You can try sniping them from long distances. If you're on foot, you can shoot them off as they fly by -- it works better if you have BST active. You can also fire a rocket at them. Nine out of ten times, they will either get taken out or jump off to escape death. It is not easy to dodge missiles on an Oppressor.

 

My main gripes with the Oppressor is how quick and easy it is to get back after it's been destroyed or when it's out of the player's range. There's no cool-down timer, either.

 

EDIT: What the hell is going on with the forums today?

Edited June 3, 2018 by Arrows to Athens

[Mach1bud]

21 minutes ago, Arrows to Athens said:

So grieifing with, say, an attack chopper is more justifiable because it requires more skill and effort than the Deluxo. It may require more skill and effort, but does that still justify the griefing? As long as the griefing takes skill and effort, it's justifiable? 

 

Griefing isn't justifiable at all in any situation. Point I was getting at is it is a lot easier to stop someone griefing you when they are in a helicopter apposed to the big three OP vehicles.

Edited June 3, 2018 by Mach1bud