Red Dead Redemption 2: Discussion & Speculation (Part 4)

[Nutduster]

23 minutes ago, jevity said:

New confirmations (Alanah's video)
 

Spoiler

(some have been vaguely described in other previews, but not in a video format where it is obvious the person is retelling exactly what they saw and experienced)


Actual Observations

The pocket watch, working in real time by the way, is not a default item. Arthur will have to buy it.

Arthur can choose between drinking a whiskey like a shot, or savoring it slowly instead.

Arthur can take his gloves off and on in real time, using the item wheel.

Camp members can dynamically get so drunk, that you will find them passed out on the ground in the morning

Using the camera works like photo-mode, you are not forced to live with a sepia filter or something like that. The image looks, quote, "crispy clean".

An example of how Arthur can get a side mission, is as subtle as another camp member walking past you, not stopping, and quickly casually mentions while walking by you that X would like to see you X.

The hair and beard customization does not just consist of a list of presets. Instead you can, for instance, individually control the length of each part of your beard.

Rockstar have said there there are specific items that can only be crafted when Arthur camps out in the wild.

Sheep are now confirmed.

NPCs can really struggle when you try to lasso them.

If you ride down a steep hill very fast, the horse can break it's leg.

Without spoiling anything. Another gang member sees Arthur out in the world, and quickly approaches Arthur, what happens after is not a side mission, but also involves another camp member.

When getting into a firefight together with an ally,outside of a mission, you can still control them(squad command) like you can in the missions we have heard about.

During a firefight together with an ally, the ally will act on his own if you are not quick enough to make a decision. To help you make a decision, the ally will dynamically shout/whisper suggestions at you.

Scavengers will dynamically find dead rotting animals and eat the. This has been mentioned as a possibility before, but to my knowledge it has not been witness in the game until now.

Carrying animals or dead people around affects your stamina, so you have to be smart about it.

If you stealth kill an npc/enemy mid sentence, any other npc/enemy the first one is talking to will react and investigate.


Subjective Impressions (Alanah's)

Combat feels more like a mix between MP3 and GTA V, than it feels like RDR, and that it feels, in her words, "sharper than both".

First person feels "sharper" and more naturally integrated. She compares it to the first person is GTA V, and thinks the implementation in RDR2 is a lot better.

Melee combat feels "very Rockstar", but much more "precise" and "animated" than in the previous titles. "More details, more than just punch...punch...punch...kick", also she says it is "more specific" and "more choreographed". It does not feel like "forced animations" but instead "more than you can do intentionally".

The camp site is bigger than she expected, she says "it's a lot broader".

 

 

Thanks for recapping, I'm in a dumb meeting and can't watch that video for a while.

[Chinese Takeout]

2 minutes ago, Mach1bud said:

Are you guys really having a debate about how many days away from release we are?

 

10 days, 5 hours, 40 minutes until release. At least for me at this very moment.

For me:

[rollschuh2282]

3 minutes ago, INFERNO E100 said:

Post mortem conclusion. Death from a fall and he happened to shoot himself in the back of the head 5 times on the way down

or maybe just knock someone out with punches.

then it would really look like a accident bc i don´t think they would notice a difference between punch marks and marks from falling 200m on a rock ground

[Juan marstoon]

25 minutes ago, jevity said:

New confirmations (Alanah's video)

Camp members can dynamically get so drunk, that you will find them passed out on the ground in the morning

 

Spoiler

 

Edited October 15, 2018 by Juan marstoon

[INFERNO E100]

Just now, Chinese Takeout said:

Okay, so, you made a couple mistakes when you wrongly corrected @damienrayemusic. He said "tomorrow we'll be in single digits." Here, I'll draw it on a calendar for you which may help:

 

Are you thick. You have yourself drawn that the 26th is the 10th day away from tomorrow

 

The release day is the 26th. You can't change that

 

We're at the point where we need to operate in hours to sort this out if you're picking it up early. 99% of people won't be at a midnight launch. And if we're going on picking it up early and I manage to get it 2 days early like I did with GTA:v then it's just getting messy bro

[2019Redifiv/2020Modifiv]

4 minutes ago, INFERNO E100 said:

Post mortem conclusion. Death from a fall and he happened to shoot himself in the back of the head 5 times on the way down

hahahahah

[damienrayemusic]

5 minutes ago, Mach1bud said:

Are you guys really having a debate about how many days away from release we are?

 

10 days, 5 hours, 40 minutes until release. At least for me at this very moment.

Lmao this place is pure comedy sometimes isn't it, at least the droughts are over once and for all!! By the way thank you for shouting out my quote last night on Twitter, glad you liked it too bad I don't use that account anymore tho:( lol gonna make a new one as soon as I get my equipment sent to me. Hopefully by or at Christmas if I'm lucky 

[Punkd]

thanks for the summary of  Alanah's video

but all i want to know is how the map looks like (rdr1/mehico etc) :'D

[damienrayemusic]

Just now, Punkd said:

thanks for the summary of  Alanah's video

but all i want to know is how the map looks like (rdr1/mehico etc) :'D

Viva la revolution! Mehico mehico mehico!!!!!! (PLEEEAAASE!) lol yeah that was a cool summary though. Skipped the small spoilers but everything else, great!!

[Mach1bud]

5 minutes ago, INFERNO E100 said:

 The release day is the 26th. You can't change that

The thing is, pretty much everyone in the United States is picking up the physical version at 9 pm on the 25th.

[horns]

31 minutes ago, jevity said:

New confirmations (Alanah's video)

(some have been vaguely described in other previews, but not in a video format where it is obvious the person is retelling exactly what they saw and experienced)

Actual Observations

The pocket watch, working in real time by the way, is not a default item. Arthur will have to buy it.

Arthur can choose between drinking a whiskey like a shot, or savoring it slowly instead.

Arthur can take his gloves off and on in real time, using the item wheel.

Camp members can dynamically get so drunk, that you will find them passed out on the ground in the morning

Using the camera works like photo-mode, you are not forced to live with a sepia filter or something like that. The image looks, quote, "crispy clean".

An example of how Arthur can get a side mission, is as subtle as another camp member walking past you, not stopping, and quickly casually mentions while walking by you that X would like to see you X.

The hair and beard customization does not just consist of a list of presets. Instead you can, for instance, individually control the length of each part of your beard.

Rockstar have said there there are specific items that can only be crafted when Arthur camps out in the wild.

Sheep are now confirmed.

NPCs can really struggle when you try to lasso them.

If you ride down a steep hill very fast, the horse can break it's leg.

Without spoiling anything. Another gang member sees Arthur out in the world, and quickly approaches Arthur, what happens after is not a side mission, but also involves another camp member.

When getting into a firefight together with an ally,outside of a mission, you can still control them(squad command) like you can in the missions we have heard about.

During a firefight together with an ally, the ally will act on his own if you are not quick enough to make a decision. To help you make a decision, the ally will dynamically shout/whisper suggestions at you.

Scavengers will dynamically find dead rotting animals and eat the. This has been mentioned as a possibility before, but to my knowledge it has not been witness in the game until now.

Carrying animals or dead people around affects your stamina, so you have to be smart about it.

If you stealth kill an npc/enemy mid sentence, any other npc/enemy the first one is talking to will react and investigate.


Subjective Impressions (Alanah's)

Combat feels more like a mix between MP3 and GTA V, than it feels like RDR, and that it feels, in her words, "sharper than both".

First person feels "sharper" and more naturally integrated. She compares it to the first person is GTA V, and thinks the implementation in RDR2 is a lot better.

Melee combat feels "very Rockstar", but much more "precise" and "animated" than in the previous titles. "More details, more than just punch...punch...punch...kick", also she says it is "more specific" and "more choreographed". It does not feel like "forced animations" but instead "more than you can do intentionally".

The camp site is bigger than she expected, she says "it's a lot broader".

 

 

Do we know if the bandanna covering the face works the same way as the gloves? 

[Jason]

Just now, Mach1bud said:

The thing is, pretty much everyone in the United States is picking up the physical version at 9 pm on the 25th.

Also digital sales are bigger than ever on console (possibly even bigger than physical) and both consoles will unlock the game at midnight.

[SeniorDerp]

Technically people will have a physical copy in their hands on the 25th. In the US right now that’s 10 days from Today

[Mach1bud]

Just now, Jason said:

Also digital sales are bigger than ever on console (possibly even bigger than physical) and both consoles will unlock the game at midnight.

I know and that's lame.

[Chinese Takeout]

6 minutes ago, INFERNO E100 said:

Are you thick. You have yourself drawn that the 26th is the 10th day away from tomorrow

 

 

I have, indeed. And I probably could stand a bit of a diet, but I'm not exactly thick, as you say.

 

Here is my final attempt to bring clarity to you:

Starting at the blue circle I have drawn on the 16th (aka "tomorrow"), count the number of days AFTER tomorrow, but BEFORE the 26th, to arrive at the total number of 24-hour time periods between my blue circle and the PINK LINE:

[damienrayemusic]

What's everyone's plans for midnight launch if you're lucky enough to go to it ? In a nutshell, I'm going with my dad as our tradition goes and we will make food when we get home, hopefully some western themed stuff. Really can't wait for the few hours at GameStop though!!! Gonna blast the RDR soundtrack in the car and I WAS going to stream the event the whole thing, but that plan was before my phone was stolen months back before this -.- now it will just be my memory but still a great one I'll be sure to share. 

[lndex]

3 minutes ago, damienrayemusic said:

What's everyone's plans for midnight launch if you're lucky enough to go to it ? In a nutshell, I'm going with my dad as our tradition goes and we will make food when we get home, hopefully some western themed stuff. Really can't wait for the few hours at GameStop though!!! Gonna blast the RDR soundtrack in the car and I WAS going to stream the event the whole thing, but that plan was before my phone was stolen months back before this -.- now it will just be my memory but still a great one I'll be sure to share. 

I learnt my lesson of going to a midnight launch back for GTAV...the que was unreal. Atleast this time around I just gotta wait until the strike of midnight since pre ordering digital!

[joshua969]

Going to the 9pm launch with a friend of mine.  Not sure what to expect as far as crowds go.  I was told to come in early in the afternoon and get 'pre-rung' so it makes the pick-up at 9pm easier.

[2019Redifiv/2020Modifiv]

12 minutes ago, horns said:

 

Do we know if the bandanna covering the face works the same way as the gloves? 

No iron clad confirmation, but everything points to it being "just" another item like the binocular, the lantern of the fishing rod.

[Starboy]

I'll be at home just watching the timer waiting for the game to unlock. I'll probably pick up some food and drinks half an hour before. After that, it'll be RDR 2 till dawn. I'm no joke gonna play till I fall asleep.

[DanCarryUs]

I will buy the digital version tomorrow, but i have school in the launch day. Maybe i will stay at home, this game deserve.

[VigMarston]

I just read on twitter.. The main story is how long??  

Holy moly!! This'll be us when we start and finally finish the game!

Edited October 15, 2018 by VigMarston91
typo

[INFERNO E100]

22 minutes ago, Mach1bud said:

The thing is, pretty much everyone in the United States is picking up the physical version at 9 pm on the 25th.

E V E R Y O N E

 

ok then. I'd like to see the splits for early pickups Vs launch day sales. From my time in retail years ago I'd say 20:80

[Mach1bud]

Just now, INFERNO E100 said:

E V E R Y O N E

 

ok then. I'd like to see the splits for early pickups Vs launch day sales. From my time in retail years ago I'd say 20:80

Years ago isn't now brother. Didn't know V had early pickups. Just looking at these forums you can see many are picking it up at 9. 

[eliasisdead]

3 minutes ago, VigMarston91 said:

I just read on twitter.. The main story is how long??  

Holy moly!! This'll be us when we start and finally finish the game!

If I'm not misunderstanding, that wasn't specified in the article as main quest length so it could be proper content, i.e side quests as well. Also a friendly reminder that Houser spouted off talking about GTAV being a 100 hour story as well. Hope for the best, but never expect it, friends.

Edited October 15, 2018 by eliasisdead

[INFERNO E100]

3 minutes ago, Mach1bud said:

Years ago isn't now brother. Didn't know V had early pickups. Just looking at these forums you can see many are picking it up at 9. 

were talking release date, the 26th, you cant change that

 

 

i got gtav 2 days early but that didnt change the release date

 

 

 

 

 

 

[VigMarston]

@eliasisdead Appreciate the warning
Regardless, I'm gonna take it slow anyway. Hunting, exploring and playing mini games & such.

I think I'll definitely be spending 100 hours on the Main Campaign 

[INFERNO E100]

26 minutes ago, Chinese Takeout said:

I have, indeed. And I probably could stand a bit of a diet, but I'm not exactly thick, as you say.

 

Here is my final attempt to bring clarity to you:

Starting at the blue circle I have drawn on the 16th (aka "tomorrow"), count the number of days AFTER tomorrow, but BEFORE the 26th, to arrive at the total number of 24-hour time periods between my blue circle and the PINK LINE:

you cant change the release date its the 26th 

 

 

 

let's start tomorrow one second past midnight on tues 16th 00:00.01

 

plus 24 hours is 17th 00:00.01 1
 

plus 24 hours is 18th 00:00.01 2

 

plus 24 hours is 19th 00:00.01 3

 

plus 24 hours is 20th 00:00.01 4

 

plus 24 hours is 21st 00:00.01 5

 

plus 24 hours is 22nd 00:00.01 6

 

plus 24 hours is 23rd 00:00.01 7
 

plus 24 hours is 24th 00:00.01 8

 

plus 24 hours is 25th 00:00.01 9

 

plus 24 hours is 26th 00:00.01 10 days away

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[VigMarston]

Btw.. Hey @joshua969!! Great to see ya!!

Can you believe we're only 10 days away?  

 

[horns]

19 minutes ago, Starboy said:

I'll be at home just watching the timer waiting for the game to unlock. I'll probably pick up some food and drinks half an hour before. After that, it'll be RDR 2 till dawn. I'm no joke gonna play till I fall asleep.

Have a feeling no matter how excited I will be at midnight, I'll still fall asleep within an hour of playing it.