Red Dead Redemption 2: Discussion & Speculation (Part 2)

[Not Kmart]

How Violent and Gory do all of you think this game will be?

I would love to here all of you opinions.

Edited July 12, 2018 by Not Kmart

[damienrayemusic]

4 minutes ago, pjw said:

Was looking through some screen shots and noticed this blood spatter on Arthur's hand.

 

 

If you look closely you can see there is a slight amount of blood on the outside of his coat sleeve too. I think there may also be a little blood on the inside of his coat sleeve, can't be sure on that though, it's difficult to tell. 

Well Mr Morgan it's gonna be a bloody job..

"I don't know any other kind"

[PayneKiller75]

4 minutes ago, Not Kmart said:

How Violent and Gory do all of you think this game will be?

I would love to here all of you opinions.

Hopefully only as violent as it needs to be to tell the story. But if they over do it, or have violence just for the sake of having violence? That'd be a bummer.

[dkunit]

6 minutes ago, Not Kmart said:

How Violent and Gory do all of you think this game will be?

I would love to here all of you opinions.

I think Max Payne 3 levels of gore would be fine. Gory enough to be noticeable and "realistic," but not over-the-top Django Unchained levels.

[Not Kmart]

5 minutes ago, GunSlinger556 said:

Hopefully only as violent as it needs to be to tell the story. But if they over do it, or have violence just for the sake of having violence? That'd be a bummer.

I think it will be the same is the first one to tell the truth.

Just a 2018 update lol

[damienrayemusic]

1 minute ago, Not Kmart said:

I think it will be the same is the first one to tell the truth.

Just a 2018 update lol

Agreed and the first one was perfect anyways so we're all good. They know what they're doing what will fit for this game and whatnot 

[PayneKiller75]

4 minutes ago, Not Kmart said:

I think it will be the same is the first one to tell the truth.

Just a 2018 update lol

That'd be cool with me! I absolutely LOVED it!

[damienrayemusic]

I have a feeling that our next info not only will be gameplay and treasure hunt, but an official confirmation that RDR2 supports 4k and HDR for Xbox One X and PS4 Pro . As well as a first person view confirmation option .. (maybe on that one) I also have a hunch that the gameplay video will be able to be watched IN 4k, and that also is a good reason to be patient and wait. Think about it.. The closed demo was 1080p, the next one to the public they'll want as best as possible since Rob already confirmed in interviews it supports 4k to be shown at a later date.

Edited July 13, 2018 by damienrayemusic
Additional thoughts on 4k theory

[dkunit]

If the game has Kill-cams like Max Payne 3 (which it reportedly does), they'll definitely need to make sure that the gore and ballistic effects look good in motion. Otherwise the close-ups will just highlight the flaws.

Edited July 13, 2018 by dkunit

[Not Kmart]

Just hoping for better AI Ragdoll physics.

Like a mix between Red Dead Redemption and Max Payne 3 would be absolutely perfect.

Max Payne was more grounded and realistic. RDR was like a over dramatic spaghetti western. Lol

 

 

I want that realistic, violent  yet comedic physics engine when AI gets shot and or falls. 

Tumbling off roofs and getting caught in stirrups. 

And if I dont hear a Wilhelm scream ima be pissed..

8 minutes ago, dkunit said:

If the game has Kill-cams like Max Payne 3 (which it reportedly does), they'll definitely need to make sure that the gore and ballistic effects look good in motion. Otherwise the close-ups will just highlight the flaws.

Agreed!!

Edited July 13, 2018 by Not Kmart

[dkunit]

Just had a shower thought.

You know how St. Denis is supposedly a stand-in for New Orleans? Bank Heist...

 

Set during Mardi Gras. Everyone would be distracted by the festivities, so you could disguise yourself with Masquerade Masks and stealth your way into the bank.

 

https://coololdphotos.com/new-orleans-mardi-gras-in-1900/

Edited July 13, 2018 by dkunit

[BretMaverick777]

4 hours ago, SuperKitsune said:

And why are you so certain charlie was a slave? You're talking as if you know the story already lol. There is no real evidence that points that way.

 

It's not because a colored person from that era has a caucasian name, that he's automaticaly deemed a slave.

 

You could be right, but I'd say he was an orphan.

 

It's anybodies guess really. Time will tell.

I use "slave name" in the context of a white name forced on a minority against his will; figuratively, not in the sense that Charles Smith was actually a slave down on the plantation.   Again, it's part of my own heritage and history:  Cherokees, and all Native Americans, in this era were stripped of their culture.  We weren't allowed to keep our real names like Yonaguska or Tsikalili or Sikwayi:  they forced us to adopt white names like George Gist, John Ross, Major Ridge...or Charles Smith.   "Charles Smith" is a boarding school and reservation Indian, but his dress and hairstyle gives every indication that he still holds onto his heritage, and his real name, regardless of what English-only Christianity-only rules the government tries to force down his throat.  

[BretMaverick777]

5 hours ago, luke73tnt said:

I have no doubt that this game will span across a few years

Absolutely.

And no, it won't be a day-by-day episodic thing, obviously --- nobody was suggesting that, least of all me.   But it will time-jump from year to year, to the high points --- actually, the LOW points -- of the gang's history.   The whole point of the storyline -- as we already guessed from RDR1 and see for ourselves in all 3 trailers so far -- is to witness the downfall of the Van Der Linde Gang.  Again, yeah:   we KNOW it happened, but we have no idea HOW it happened.  

 

And I also have no doubt we will each tell our own story of that.  I firmly believe RDR2 is going to follow a Bioware type strategy, like KOTOR or Mass Effect -- as players, we all share the same major plot points, but our gaming attitudes and alignments will dictate which alliances and rivalries we foster within the gang, who's going to be loyal to us and who's going to betray us, whether history will percieve Dutch's Gang as gentlemen (and women) bandits, or ruthless outlaws.   We'll all approach the same destiny that was already written in the 2010 game; but we'll all have a different road to get there.  

[Dick Justice]

Counterpoint: none of that is based on information we have received and you are setting yourself up for disappointment by having “no doubt.”

[TheSantader25]

Been replaying RDR and heard john say this to Edgar Ross

-you've been forgetting far more important people than me. 

 

 

Arthur Morgan intensifies. 

 

I got goosebumps at that moment. 

Edited July 13, 2018 by TheSantader25

[BretMaverick777]

25 minutes ago, Dick Justice said:

Counterpoint: none of that is based on information we have received and you are setting yourself up for disappointment by having “no doubt.”

Honor system returns.  New dialogue interactions with NPCs allow for nice and not-so-nice approaches to every conversation and encounter, and create long-term permanent reactions to Arthur (read:  "memories").   Large band of NPCs with varied skillsets that you can pick and choose for squad assignments on missions.   How is this not like Mass Effect?  

[dkunit]

1 minute ago, BretMaverick777 said:

Honor system returns.  New dialogue interactions with NPCs allow for nice and not-so-nice approaches to every conversation and encounter, and create long-term permanent reactions to Arthur (read:  "memories").   Large band of NPCs with varied skillsets that you can pick and choose for squad assignments on missions.   How is this not like Mass Effect?  

Don't think that third part has been confirmed yet. Unless I missed something.

[BretMaverick777]

1 minute ago, dkunit said:

Don't think that third part has been confirmed yet. Unless I missed something.

That's exactly what they described in the (as yet unseen) bank robbery in Valentine or wherever that was showed off to journos.   Arthur went with a small squad -- Karen, Lenny, Bill -- and each had a different set of skills that came into play in the demo.  

[zachsterosu]

36 minutes ago, TheSantader25 said:

Been replaying RDR and heard john say this to Edgar Ross

-you've been forgetting far more important people than me. 

 

 

Arthur Morgan intensifies. 

 

I got goosebumps at that moment. 

Can you recall which mission it was?

[dkunit]

1 minute ago, zachsterosu said:

Can you recall which mission it was?

That sounds like something The Mysterious Stranger said.

[damienrayemusic]

46 minutes ago, TheSantader25 said:

Been replaying RDR and heard john say this to Edgar Ross

-you've been forgetting far more important people than me. 

 

 

Arthur Morgan intensifies. 

 

I got goosebumps at that moment. 

Isn't that in the blackwater segment of the game? The one when they ride to the wreck of serendipity?can't remember the mission name though.  They could very well use that line as a tie in for Arthur if they catch it like you did...

Edited July 13, 2018 by damienrayemusic
I hope Arthur doesn't get killed ugh

[TheSantader25]

I believe it was in the blackwater part. Can't remember the mission. But I do recall that it wasn't a cutscene. It was on the way to the destination. 

Edited July 13, 2018 by TheSantader25

[tsycho]

1 hour ago, TheSantader25 said:

Been replaying RDR and heard john say this to Edgar Ross

-you've been forgetting far more important people than me. 

 

 

 

 

The only moment i remember someone saying this, was in the "I know you" mission...

[user x]

 

We've been halfway through this month these 8\10 weeks will be the worst I just want to gran muy horse,thath other 6 tough guys have me behind,and get close to any rancho big enough so i can have alcohol and things to take me.. I'm sure we'll hear dutch say 'before i get caught i'll die or something like that hahaah

Edited July 13, 2018 by user x

[Emmi]

HUD "At the demo’s close, two more tidbits of information were imparted. First, the game’s HUD is completely customisable; players can remove every trace of in-game help – including the circular map in the bottom of the screen – should they wish, making the experience all the more immersive."

 

Oh man, I'm tempted to completely turn off every possible element of the hud as soon as the game lets me do so ... it'll be amazing and I suppose I will get lost several times in the world and whatnot! I also think this will ensure you get surprised by new stuff even hundreds of hours into the game. You won't constantly look at the mini-map to see if some icons pop-up.

 

Like you make your way up all the way on top of a mountain and ask yourself ... hm, I need to get to Saint Denis but how exactly do I reach it ... You (Arthur) take out your binoculars and investigate the trails, ... After some time you hop on your horse and start the journey.

 

Arthur's going to rob this train, isn't he? Did I say that the horses look glorious yet? The horses in RDR1 were amazing already and still are the best horses seen in videogames to date (imo!), the ones from RDR2 are on a whole other level though ... marvelous work R*!

 

Edited July 13, 2018 by Emmi

[PapasHota]

did they release some new sh*t?

[zanpancan]

Dods anyone know what happened to Deedog and Papafuerte

4 minutes ago, PapasHota said:

did they release some new sh*t?

No.

[damienrayemusic]

2 minutes ago, zanpancan said:

Dods anyone know what happened to Deedog and Papafuerte

No.

Ahh I miss that guy. The homie @PapaFuerte is probably just taking a break for a bit like I did. He will be back once it's hype train time again, guaranteed the crew has to stay healthy. The peace officer which is myself was gone for a while, now the conductor had to take some time before we head straight on time the heartlands, as there's no stopping this time... Going straight to October 26th 

[zanpancan]

13 minutes ago, damienrayemusic said:

Ahh I miss that guy. The homie @PapaFuerte is probably just taking a break for a bit like I did. He will be back once it's hype train time again, guaranteed the crew has to stay healthy. The peace officer which is myself was gone for a while, now the conductor had to take some time before we head straight on time the heartlands, as there's no stopping this time... Going straight to October 26th 

But then... What am I...? I knew I was useless from the star...:(

[damienrayemusic]

You're not useless man @zanpancan you're just as valuable as anybody who is here was just mentioning the inside joke this thread has that you've probably seen before. Papafuerte is our hype train conductor and every regular in here (like yourself) was given a position for this hype train! I have been the peace officer considering whenever this turned too much to a bitch and moan environment and arguments broke out, I would bring my positivity and try to break up the fights (successful most of the time) just tried to keep a good vibe around here so I was eventually given the title of peace officer lol. :P