Red Dead Redemption 2: Discussion & Speculation (Part 2)

[DGSimo]

2 hours ago, B_E_N_1992 said:

If the digital version can be downloaded on 24th, people with fast internet can play it on 24th ?

 

Then there will be leaked gameplay online, I remember watching GTA V a few days before 17th September

 

No. You can preload it then, have the game downloaded and installed but the license doesn't unlock until your local midnight time or midnight EST in the US on the 26th.

 

Of course if someone got a early physical copy or retail code, which will surely happen like always, then we'll see leaked gameplay before launch.

[happygrowls]

Likely thing is that because Day One patches have become a major fad, it's probable the game won't be fully playable before launch, to prevent leaks and such.

[Jason]

They aren't gonna sell a physical version of a game with an offline single player campaign that isn't fully playable without a day 1 update. No one has done that yet, it'd be suicide. Rockstar will do what most devs usually do which is restrict streaming/video uploads on all the major sites (Twitch, YouTube, etc) till launch day. It's never gonna catch it all, but as long as you're relatively smart and avoid comment sections you should be able to avoid the leaks and spoilers.

[Zello]

It's simple go to Craigslist look for people selling the game early. Pay $500 or more for it and try not to get shot. Now that you got the game tell us all the info.

Edited July 1, 2018 by Zello

[thedarkman123]

What is the next GAMEINFORMER Cover?

[SuperKitsune]

3 hours ago, zanpancan said:

So i'\ have a great mind too? or is it all a hive mind?

 

Don't get it?

[luke73tnt]

38 minutes ago, thedarkman123 said:

What is the next GAMEINFORMER Cover?

Tetris.

[Jason]

48 minutes ago, thedarkman123 said:

What is the next GAMEINFORMER Cover?

Their previous August issues over the past few years have been E3 covers so probably that.

[Cutter De Blanc]

1 hour ago, happygrowls said:

Likely thing is that because Day One patches have become a major fad, it's probable the game won't be fully playable before launch, to prevent leaks and such.

I can't see this happening because if someone isn't online with their console they wouldn't be able to play the game at all

Seems like they'd lose a bunch of sales just so that people wouldn't be able to see the game like two days early which usually helps game sales anyway. I'm sure a big ass company like Rockstar publicly is like "NO SHOWING OUR GAME EARLY" but really they're okay with it a few days prior as long as it's gonna sell more copies and makes the game look good.

I mean they have to make some sort of obvious stink about it though, because you can't have everyone getting the game early. But I mean, those little leaks right before the game comes out, i don't see how those could be bad for sales if the game is solid

Edited July 1, 2018 by Cutter De Blanc

[J.Dillinger Blackheart]

I know this wont be a full blown RPG but How deep do you guys think RPG elements will go.? 

[MC_HaMMaSTiX]

1 hour ago, J.Dillinger Blackheart said:

I know this wont be a full blown RPG but How deep do you guys think RPG elements will go.? 

 

 My guess is like GTA 5 - certain stats will get better with repetition. SA's eating and working out system seemed to annoy more people than not. I enjoyed it but I seem to always be opposite of casual gamers despite only playing a few different games a year at most. I'd like to see more RPG elements added to RDR or GTA but 12 yr olds with mom's debit card and a strong dislike of immersion and adversity run the gamer world it seems.

Edited July 1, 2018 by MC_HaMMaSTiX

[B_E_N_1992]

So people in Australia will leak it first?

[saintsrow]

1 hour ago, J.Dillinger Blackheart said:

I know this wont be a full blown RPG but How deep do you guys think RPG elements will go.? 

I don't see it happening.  I *wish* that Rockstar would pay more attention to RPG possibilities.  They create these beautiful, rich virtual worlds, but greatly limit the activities in them, to basic PvE and PvP fighting. 

 

So much more is possible, and they could probably triple the number of sales by adding RPG and Sims / SecondLife / Playstation Home / any social virtual world to their games.  Such a lost opportunity for market penetration and profit, not to mention hooking whole new demographics into their game series.  

[Jason]

13 minutes ago, B_E_N_1992 said:

So people in Australia will leak it first?

Nah, people living in the Middle East will be the ones to leak it I bet. That area of the world has become notorious for not giving a sh*t about street dates with games sometimes being sold weeks ahead of the launch there.

[MC_HaMMaSTiX]

2 minutes ago, saintsrow said:

I don't see it happening.  I *wish* that Rockstar would pay more attention to RPG possibilities.  They create these beautiful, rich virtual worlds, but greatly limit the activities in them, to basic PvE and PvP fighting. 

 

So much more is possible, and they could probably triple the number of sales by adding RPG and Sims / SecondLife / Playstation Home / any social virtual world to their games.  Such a lost opportunity for market penetration and profit, not to mention hooking whole new demographics into their game series.  

 

 I agree. They already give us:

• Open worlds
• Quests (missions/jobs)
• Side quests
• Stats you can upgrade (but it happens regardless, for the most part, instead of only when you train specific stats)
• Some main character customization (purely cosmetic and limited)

Give us some real RPG customization damnit! Within reason of course and depending on the game, but I'd love to play RDR 2 as Bruiser Arthur. He'd suck at gun fights but break jaws and backs like it was his passion and that path would open melee or "tank" stuff. Meanwhile, someone else maybe prefers to have Arthur be a gunslinger legend and that path opens Dead Eye stuff specifically.

[Jason]

If more RPG stuff surmounts to skill trees then no, I don't want that personally. There's enough games with those out there, they aren't always a good thing.

[dkunit]

16 minutes ago, Jason said:

If more RPG stuff surmounts to skill trees then no, I don't want that personally. There's enough games with those out there, they aren't always a good thing.

Gotta agree. I hate how prevalent skill trees have become. One of my main complaints about the new God of War was just how stale the combat got in the first several hours of the game. You had the Light Attack, Heavy Attack, and throw. That's it. It wasn't until much later when you unlocked all the cool stuff.

 

That's what I think a lot of developers don't understand. You can have skill trees, but you need to let the player be able to do cool stuff all the time. Devil May Cry and Bayonetta do this perfectly. You have dozens of combos and moves unlocked from the start. As you go through the game, you can purchase new moves and combos. It's giving you a deep system right off the bat, and allows you to unlock things to further increase its depth. Modern games just seems to lock all that depth behind a skill tree that can only be unlocked after you reach an arbitrary level.

Edited July 1, 2018 by dkunit

[greenrock]

Del Lobos gang, an all mexican gang?

[J.Dillinger Blackheart]

I don't really want any skill trees or anything either, maybe for deadeye idk. Just things like different arrow heads do different things. Different medallions, spurs, horse shoes buff certain stats more. Gun ammo and sh*t like that. If it alters how Arthur shoots or fights I'm good. 

 

I would love a DLC or RDR3 about Dutch i swear.

Edited July 1, 2018 by J.Dillinger Blackheart

[SuperKitsune]

1 hour ago, Jason said:

Nah, people living in the Middle East will be the ones to leak it I bet. That area of the world has become notorious for not giving a sh*t about street dates with games sometimes being sold weeks ahead of the launch there.

Don't they get fined for that stuff?

[Dick Justice]

I wouldn’t mind if skills were similar to Skyrim, in so far that the more you use a particular weapon or ability the better you get at it. Kind of like a more expansive version of skills in San Andreas and V. Combine that with perks for wearing different talismans, etc and you have more than enough RPG elements for a Rockstar game. 

 

As as skill trees go, I would rather a more expansive honour system. Forget placing leveled points into a list to make every playthrough feel unique. The game should feel different depending on how you play Arthur. Everything should tie back to the world and how you play with it, rather than choosing things in a menu. 

[Jason]

9 minutes ago, SuperKitsune said:

Don't they get fined for that stuff?

No idea tbh. I've heard stories of stores breaking street dates being investigated in the US/EU (no idea what came of it) but the Middle East seems to get away with it completely.

[Hugoat]

I want to live this.

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/2Ez5y

[Auditore]

5 hours ago, DGSimo said:

 

No. You can preload it then, have the game downloaded and installed but the license doesn't unlock until your local midnight time or midnight EST in the US on the 26th.

 

Of course if someone got a early physical copy or retail code, which will surely happen like always, then we'll see leaked gameplay before launch.

 

Oh i remember those days,waiting till launch day,palms sweating videos of people with copies start to pop on youtube,everyone freaking out.

 

 

[Dick Justice]

I think I’ll go dark about a week before release. I remember obsessing over GTAV leaks and finding out the game starts in North Yankton and checking out trophy leaks to find out you begin freeroam as Franklin. This was after months of debating theories and coming up with cool scenarios that could start the game. The leaks were all one big spoiler in a way. If only a I could have gone dark four days earlier I could have discovered it all for myself. 

[vKing]

17 minutes ago, Hugoat said:

I want to live this.

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/2Ez5y

YES! I love snow in games, partly because not many games has sections with snow or worlds where snow is prominent. At least not among the AAA games. There was a small section in Last of us where you play as Ellie in a snow chapter. There was also a section in GoW where you traveled through snow mountains. I don't know if it's because it's so hard to render or if it's simply not doable for some devs but i'm excited to see snow in RDR2. Looks like they are taking snow to another level with snow accumulation, leaving prints in the snow and maybe detailed snowflakes. All that tech is definitely within R grasp.  

[BootyWarrior]

once october comes i'll stay off the internet until i beat the game. The 'recommended for you' feed of youtube has spoiled so many games for me. It would suck waiting 8 years for this game and have it spoiled by some youtuber who got the game early  and uploads something like "RDR 2 ENDING:OMG ARTHUR MORGAN DIES!1!1"

[Not Kmart]

I just looked through all of the screenshots again.

This game just looks amazing lol

#GameOfTheYear 

No doubt.

[J.Dillinger Blackheart]

Hands down. I scroll through them like every few days just to keep my hype intact. The graphics are the last thing I care for in a next gen game but I know if the graphics look this good the gameplay has to be astonishing.

[GTAForumsUser69]

44 minutes ago, Not Kmart said:

I just looked through all of the screenshots again.

This game just looks amazing lol

#GameOfTheYear 

No doubt.

Where can I find all the screenshots released by R* and web sites?