Red Dead Redemption 2: Discussion & Speculation (Part 2)

[luke73tnt]

do i get a unique hat for arthur if i preorder

we dont know

[JordanDFC17]

What do you guys think will happen when Arthur dies? Respawn at a doctor? Or do you wanna see something else

[PapaFuerte]

HYPE TRAIN Conductor PapaFuerte here:

 

The days are long and unforgiving... wait. Wrong game.

 

(*In the sexiest Arthur voice you have ever heard in your life)* We are more Ghosts than people.

....

 

Ladies and gentlemen of the HYPE TRAIN, we here at HYPE TRAIN PapaFuerte Operations would like to appoligize for our lack of service.

 

Unfortunately, our chief Greenrock has passed away, an overdose it seems.. I dont understand.. we would like thank Greenrock and his family of green rocks for their support during this rough time.

 

For the the time being, we have trailer 3 playing in the theater room, along with booze and Greenrock.

 

Service to commemorate the empty kitchen and your empty stomachs will be held this Friday.

 

Again, apologies. We will have service up and running later this month.

 

Thank you for choosing HYPE TRAIN PapaFuerte Operations as your only choice to get to THE HEARTLANDS.

 

Papa

[luke73tnt]

HYPE TRAIN Conductor PapaFuerte here:

 

The days are long and unforgiving... wait. Wrong game.

 

(*In the sexiest Arthur voice you have ever heard in your life)* We are more Ghosts than people.

....

 

Ladies and gentlemen of the HYPE TRAIN, we here at HYPE TRAIN PapaFuerte Operations would like to appoligize for our lack of service.

 

Unfortunately, our chief Greenrock has passed away, an overdose it seems.. I dont understand.. we would like thank Greenrock and his family of green rocks for their support during this rough time.

 

For the the time being, we have trailer 3 playing in the theater room, along with booze and Greenrock.

 

Service to commemorate the empty kitchen and your empty stomachs will be held this Friday.

 

Again, apologies. We will have service up and running later this month.

 

Thank you for choosing HYPE TRAIN PapaFuerte Operations as your only choice to get to THE HEARTLANDS.

 

Papa

this train was going pretty fast a few days ago but seems to have slowed way down

[PapasHota]

next is gameplay footage at e3

[DGSimo]

next is gameplay footage at e3

Slim to none.

[StarAngelWolf]

I'm gonna be disappointed if they don't show a new trailer at E3 or if they don't even come at all.

[zachsterosu]

I'll post the stuff tomorrow(now later today I guess lol), I wasn't able to get around to it today. It's not really anything substantial, but rather some small details that I don't believe I've seen anyone pick up on yet.

 

Edit: Nevermind, check the next page

Edited May 16, 2018 by zachsterosu

[Obscurevids]

And all the pain weve been facing... about to come into the light.

[SuperKitsune]

Briliant song!

[zachsterosu]

Nevermind, I'll just do it now lol.

 

-long post incoming-

 

Ok, well the first bit of info is regarding the returning firearm - the item on the right is what I believe to be the 'semi-automatic pistol'(C93 Borchardt) from RDR1.

 

 

 

 

Now the second thing, look at the badge on Edgar Ross is wearing.

 

 

 

Here are all the in-universe lawman badges that we know of:

 

 

 

Notice that it doesn't match a single one. Now we know that the Blackwater police force has been founded by 1899, as seen in Trailer 3, and presumably(following real history) the Bureau of Investigation has not. Now take a look at the actual Pinkerton Badges:

 

 

 

I'd say that Edgar's badge looks close enough to be a slightly fictionalized version of one of these, but obviously this is just my observation(I guess it's not really 'solid' evidence lol). Now regarding the Pinkerton group, I still believe there's a chance they might be the 'Cornwall' Detective Agency in RDR2. The Pinkerton's were often hired to guard trains, so that for me is one of the best possible explanations for the armored rail-cars with gun slots. The Cornwall advertisement on the streetcar during the robbery scene in Trailer 3 also adds credence to this, as the Pinkerton Agency would often put ads in newspapers and such.

 

The Cornwall crest/emblem:

 

 

 

Now why would an industrial company(kerosene and tar) have a coat of arms, as well as private armored rail-cars? To me, this all points to a military/security force, such as the Pinkerton Detective Agency.

 

Again, this is just my theory, I could very well be wrong. Thoughts?

Edited May 16, 2018 by zachsterosu

[Cozzi]

Now the second thing, look at the badge on Edgar Ross is wearing.

-snip-

Notice that it doesn't match a single one. Now we know that the Blackwater police force has been founded by 1899, as seen in Trailer 3, and presumably(following real history) the Bureau of Investigation has not. Now take a look at the actual Pinkerton Badges:

-snip-

I'd say that Edgar's badge looks close enough to be a slightly fictionalized version of one of these, but obviously this is just my observation(I guess it's not really 'solid' evidence lol). Now regarding the Pinkerton group, I still believe there's a chance they might be the 'Cornwall' Detective Agency in RDR2. The Pinkerton's were often hired to guard trains, so that for me is one of the best possible explanations for the armored rail-cars with gun slots. The Cornwall advertisement on the streetcar during the robbery scene in Trailer 3 also adds credence to this, as the Pinkerton Agency would often put ads in newspapers and such.

 

Now why would an industrial company(kerosene and tar) have a coat of arms, as well as private armored rail-cars? To me, this all points to a military/security force, such as the Pinkerton Detective Agency.

Again, this is just my theory, I could very well be wrong. Thoughts?

Maybe about that gun but the badge was a good find.

Edited May 16, 2018 by Cozzi

[Yelda]

wow ... it wasn´t so quiet for a long time. I'm still sitting in our hype train, watching the new trailer every evening and follow this thread ^^

For my part, I can say that I'm just happy with what we've been shown and confirmed. I have no reason to complain ... and I need not much more info. Maybe a bit about gameplay and online, but that´s it. I want to explore this amazing game by myself and can´t wait until October ^^

 

Edit: Nice work, zachsterosu Oh, if I see the face of Ross ... too bad that we can´t even put him away

Insanely that the two lawmen stand in the group of outlaws, threaten them and nobody dares to knock them out ... I'm looking forward to this scene in the game.

 

Edited May 16, 2018 by Yelda

[~INDIO~]

I noticed in the picture where Arthur has a bloody hand that he has a holstered pistol that looks blued instead of nickel. So maybe we can change the colour of our guns by the looks of it.

Also his belt looks darker in that shot, but maybe that's just the light

[TheExclusiveMan]

What if cornwall is the equivelant of merryweather from gta 5, I can picture the online now

 

"Get obliterated by an overpowered varmint? Signal cornwalls heavily armoured war train to blow the mudsill out of his hiding spot (cost 4000000 bullions)"

Edited May 16, 2018 by TheExclusiveMan

[Mr. Jabe]

 

 

 

That's some real good attention to detail, Zach!

 

But I have to ask - and it's not related to any of your finds - but why on earth is Edgar Ross even in this game?!

 

I mean, obviously nothing has been confirmed to say that is him but it's pretty hard to think anything other what with that moustache and stature. But are we really supposed to believe that he's been tracking the van der Linde gang for twelve years by the time of 1911? And that he met John Marston and the rest of the gang all those years ago? And neither he nor John said anything to indicate that in RDR??

 

The trailer at least suggests that the guy on the right will be the "main villain". So maybe Ross will just have a glorified cameo - showing up and rarely speaking like Edgar's own right-hand man in RDR. But when you (Rockstar) start making more connections than necessary between the two games I just feel that you end up making the scope of the story even narrower than it is, what with it already being a prequel and being bound to certain connections anyway.

[FiIip]

 

Guys, did anybody preserve the first version of the first trailer? The one that says Fall 2017?

 

I really need the original file from the official website

This one?

 

 

 

Yes, exactly this one.

 

But the original file from R* website. Do you have it by any chance? Please host it on some hosting service. I will give a cookie

[paddymcg]

 

 

 

 

That's some real good attention to detail, Zach!

 

But I have to ask - and it's not related to any of your finds - but why on earth is Edgar Ross even in this game?!

 

I mean, obviously nothing has been confirmed to say that is him but it's pretty hard to think anything other what with that moustache and stature. But are we really supposed to believe that he's been tracking the van der Linde gang for twelve years by the time of 1911? And that he met John Marston and the rest of the gang all those years ago? And neither he nor John said anything to indicate that in RDR??

 

The trailer at least suggests that the guy on the right will be the "main villain". So maybe Ross will just have a glorified cameo - showing up and rarely speaking like Edgar's own right-hand man in RDR. But when you (Rockstar) start making more connections than necessary between the two games I just feel that you end up making the scope of the story even narrower than it is, what with it already being a prequel and being bound to certain connections anyway.

 

That's what I gather the story will be about, being chased by the law.

 

"They chased us from the west, they've chased us over the mountains."

 

I have a feeling the story will span a few years taking us from 1899 to when John is left for dead. I think Edgar Ross will just be the right hand man that doesn't say much for most of the story until maybe that main villain guy is killed and Ross becomes more prominent in the end game seeking revenge (Redemption?)

 

I'm just spit balling ideas though.

[thedarkman123]

Take 2 meeting today, hope for a bits of red dead 2 mentions...

[joshua969]

Take 2 meeting today, hope for a bits of red dead 2 mentions...

Totally forgot that was happening after the news blow-out...lol.

If we hear anything more than 'we're on track for our October 26th release date and things are going great' I would be surprised.

[B_E_N_1992]

So anyone think that we can resell guns picked up or bought?. We can with hunting, so it seems logical to be able to sell guns for a faction of there bought value

[joshua969]

So anyone think that we can resell guns picked up or bought?. We can with hunting, so it seems logical to be able to sell guns for a faction of there bought value

That would be cool, but I wonder how that would work with limited inventory space. I'm sure our horse can't hold 36 cattleman revolvers to take into town to sell at the gun shop.

 

Something that worries me with the hunting/inventory mechanic...if we can only carry one large animal on our horse, hunting trips might get tedious. I guess it's more realistic than riding down to Chuparosa with 88 bear pelts though...LOL.

[luke73tnt]

 

So anyone think that we can resell guns picked up or bought?. We can with hunting, so it seems logical to be able to sell guns for a faction of there bought value

That would be cool, but I wonder how that would work with limited inventory space. I'm sure our horse can't hold 36 cattleman revolvers to take into town to sell at the gun shop.

 

Something that worries me with the hunting/inventory mechanic...if we can only carry one large animal on our horse, hunting trips might get tedious. I guess it's more realistic than riding down to Chuparosa with 88 bear pelts though...LOL.

give me convenience or give me death. I like realism but it is a video game and lots of unrealistic things are acceptable like for me carrying multiple guns on one person and multiple pelts and dead animals on your horse Edited May 16, 2018 by luke73tnt

[Auditore]

I'm really curious about the slum market that was leaked last year,i wonder if that will be the equivalent of the stock market in GTA 5

[SuperKing573]

 

So anyone think that we can resell guns picked up or bought?. We can with hunting, so it seems logical to be able to sell guns for a faction of there bought value

That would be cool, but I wonder how that would work with limited inventory space. I'm sure our horse can't hold 36 cattleman revolvers to take into town to sell at the gun shop.

 

Something that worries me with the hunting/inventory mechanic...if we can only carry one large animal on our horse, hunting trips might get tedious. I guess it's more realistic than riding down to Chuparosa with 88 bear pelts though...LOL.

Maybe that is when you invest in a Wagon for access to a bigger haul

[joshua969]

I'm really curious about the slum market that was leaked last year,i wonder if that will be the equivalent of the stock market in GTA 5

So many unknown details....need gameplay trailer badly.

[~INDIO~]

The Take Two meeting happen yet?

[MosquitoSmasher]

I've been playing Dead Rising 4 a lot lately and I absolutely love the interaction you have with the game world and its objects. You really can pretty much pick anything up and use it as a weapon. This brings me to what the Rockstar guy said about being able to pick up anything. I wonder if he meant that this is their goal for future open world games or for RDR2. Definitely hope to learn more about that in upcoming previews or interviews.

[Kally G]

 

So anyone think that we can resell guns picked up or bought?. We can with hunting, so it seems logical to be able to sell guns for a faction of there bought value

That would be cool, but I wonder how that would work with limited inventory space. I'm sure our horse can't hold 36 cattleman revolvers to take into town to sell at the gun shop.

 

Something that worries me with the hunting/inventory mechanic...if we can only carry one large animal on our horse, hunting trips might get tedious. I guess it's more realistic than riding down to Chuparosa with 88 bear pelts though...LOL.

I have a feeling that one pelt would be worth enough that you dont need to continue hunting repetitively. Otherwise, maybe you can bring some of the gang to hunt with you, or get a wagon.

[thedarkman123]

Link to the take 2 meeting?