Red Dead Redemption 2: Discussion & Speculation (Part 2)

[thedarkman123]

I think we had enough info until next month, let us wait patiently

[SuperKing573]

 

The Interview also confirms that there won't be procedurally generated events, as there were in Red Dead Redemption.

 

 

The Events, will rather be catered to the point in story you are and are all individually designed.

Excuse me for my moment of stupidity, but when I read this section of the article (through the not so reliable google translate, this part confused me and still does.

 

What does this mean exactly? That there won't be random things happening in the world? Like people trying to rob others or steal their horses or God forbid Herbert f*cking moon getting robbed again?

 

That's odd. I know I can't be reading that right, I mean the world would be so empty. And not to mention all the work their doing with the interactivity of npcs. It seems odd to not have them doing little things we can intervene with.

 

God I know I'm being incredibly dense right now and I'm just not understanding it even though it's right in front of me.

 

Maybe someone could give me an example of this vs how GTAV random events worked? Are they just saying they don't want the SAME event popping up in the same spot over and over again like in GTAV? That's what I get out of it at least.

Could Rockstar be bold enough to make this game more of a free roam episodic game meaning that there will be a couple missions in each episode and each episode has something unique about it rather than just free roam like RDR?

[Zello]

The third time R* does a prequel. LCS and VCS and now RDR2

 

 

No I'm not counting GTA Advance.

[Kally G]

 

 

 

I hope this time you can own a buggy or a stagecoach.

Would be cool. Seems like extra weapons are stored on horses, so I imagine a wagon would hold even more weapons.

Or a bearIdk I think storing weapons inside a bear would be more tricky than it sounds.

Touché

[DirtCheap]

 

 

 

Will we find out my Dutch is called Dutch in the game?

I want to know why he's called that cause he ain't Dutch

Van der Linde is pretty much a Dutch name.. a friend of mine is called like that as well. Dutchs ancestors were Dutch for sure

Well we obviously know Van der Linde is a Dutch name, but the main question I'm asking is how come we don't get anything about him mentioning anything Dutch in RDR.

There is not a lot info about him at all.. so we will probably find out in October. Besides that in rdr he wore an orange outfit which is again a reference to my country.

 

 

Sounds neat that his outfit's colour is a reference to the Netherlands.

Quick question but in what way is it a reference to the Netherlands?

[rtie]

Orange is the colour of the Dutch royal family- the House of Orange-Nassau, founded by William I of Orange. It's also why their national team kit is orange.

He doesn't mention anything about his lineage in Red Dead Redemption likely because he didn't need to. He was a bit busy being hunted down by John and lawmen to discuss his heritage in depth. I'm sure we'll find out more about it in this RDR2.

Dutch's family hail from the Netherlands hence his last name but I think Dutch may just be a nickname likewise Irish.

[Cutter De Blanc]

Watching trailer 2 again I just realized Arthur can walk up to people's campsites and steal their soup and be all like "what the f*ck you gonna do about it"

Instant Game of the year.

[user x]

I wonder if I would have such an intelligent AI type, we walk with the band (or 4 or 5 of them), they assault us, and when they are 2, the AI ​​itself can try to steal, they think we will see

[Mirokunite]

The third time R* does a prequel. LCS and VCS and now RDR2

 

 

No I'm not counting GTA Advance.

 

Vice City and San Andreas could be considered prequels to GTA: 3 given the overlapping characters.

[woggleman]

Man, I've read like 3 different articles with people bitching about the fact that John Marston is in RDR II. It's so unbelievably stupid. There is literally no way they could have done a prequel about Dutch's gang WITHOUT including John. He's way too integral to the gang and essentially the reason they broke apart. Abigail even says in RDR that John basically forced them to confront their own hypocrisy and that they resented him for it. A gang of flawed Robin Hood-esque outlaws fighting against a corrupt society is too good of a game idea to pass up, and I couldn't be happier that they've taken it in this direction. It allows them to continue the themes of the first game while telling a new story. People love to bash on prequels, but a well done prequel can enhance and improve the original story if done well. Seeing a younger, brasher John will make me appreciate his personality in RDR even more. If RDR II makes me feel a connection to Bill, Dutch, and Javier, playing through the first game again might make me feel guilty for having to kill them, and I'll actually feel what John is feeling. Thats why this games story potential excites me.

People will whine about anything these days. If he wasn't in the game they would whine as well. Some people just love complaining.

[UAL]

Been 5 days since we've heard anything, this drought is unbearable. I think it's gonna get delayed again.

Edited May 11, 2018 by UAL

[Jabalous]

Relax, it's 5 months away. Gonna be fun playing II during the time when weather turns cold and chilly, in contrast to I that had us experiencing it in the hot days of Summer, fitting the desert-dominated landscape.

[SuperKitsune]

Relax, it's 5 months away. Gonna be fun playing II during the time when weather turns cold and chilly, in contrast to I that had us experiencing it in the hot days of Summer, fitting the desert-dominated landscape.

I agree with you. Rdr2 takes place to the north east of rdr1 by the looks of the leaked map.

 

We can expect a more temperate climate in most of the game. With the only extremes being to the north and far south with cold and subtropical climates respectively.

[AlSwearengen]

 

 

The Interview also confirms that there won't be procedurally generated events, as there were in Red Dead Redemption.

 

 

The Events, will rather be catered to the point in story you are and are all individually designed.

Excuse me for my moment of stupidity, but when I read this section of the article (through the not so reliable google translate, this part confused me and still does.

 

What does this mean exactly? That there won't be random things happening in the world? Like people trying to rob others or steal their horses or God forbid Herbert f*cking moon getting robbed again?

 

That's odd. I know I can't be reading that right, I mean the world would be so empty. And not to mention all the work their doing with the interactivity of npcs. It seems odd to not have them doing little things we can intervene with.

 

God I know I'm being incredibly dense right now and I'm just not understanding it even though it's right in front of me.

 

Maybe someone could give me an example of this vs how GTAV random events worked? Are they just saying they don't want the SAME event popping up in the same spot over and over again like in GTAV? That's what I get out of it at least.

Could Rockstar be bold enough to make this game more of a free roam episodic game meaning that there will be a couple missions in each episode and each episode has something unique about it rather than just free roam like RDR?

 

What ?!

[BLOOD]

I think RDR2 will force me to watch Hell on Wheels.

Edited May 11, 2018 by BLOOD

[Reno_]

All the stuff about NPC's has problably got me the most excited from the previews. I just really hope they do it right. I love how all NPC's have names in RDR and each one of them has unique quotes which give them a bit of a background and a personality. Would be a bummer if all the npcs have names in RDR2.

[SherifWayne]

I really hope each individual NPC will have a name. That was such a cool thing in RDR and I was dissapointed with GTAV for not having it, but it was understandable given GTAV is metropolitan and has hardly any 1 on 1 npc interactions aside from insulting somebody. I would be really impressed to find certain NPCs and listen to what they do and say and see whole wiki pages about random NPCs and their behaviors. I also toyed with the idea of having NPCs die, like if there is an old man who lives in a cabin named Jebediah Grimm and I shoot him in the head, I won't see Jebediah anymore. I know this would eventually lead to ghost towns for us psychopaths who eventually get bored and murder everyone, but I feel like it could be fixed to certain NPCs like in past games, like Fallout and GTAIV/RDR but on a more dynamic scale and only with certain NPCs.

[Bigglo145]

 

 

Don't know if this should have a separate thread but what horse are you looking forward to? What horse will be your trusty steed in RDR 2? I bought the GOTY version of RDR so I had the war horse right at the start of the game and I didn't replace it the whole game.

whichever horse is the fastest

What are the best breed of horses? Assuming R* is going realistic route? I dont really know anything about horse but I would prefer a fast horse as well, seeing as you can upgrade everything else. Also, I want my horse in dark brown or black.

 

persian horses, they are naturally slim, have a distinct shape to them and the fastest i think but are native only to the middle east. There should be a rich horse breeder that you can buy different horses from in rdr, i hope the mule returns as well lol just for laughs

[Bigglo145]

 

^ Thanks Glad I'm not the only one who remembers it.

From about 5:50 maybe we got it wrong

 

wow i forgot that jack remembered who dutch and bill were, guess he will be around the campfire

[Stekahedron]

Right, so bear with me... At the moment I'm having a hell of a time, desperate to play RDR1 but having sold my PS3 and PS Now not running well on my internet connection I started thinking...

 

So that leaked map links to blackwater by an estuary or some such, and there's definitely some narrative crossover in terms of John, Jack and Arthur and Dutch's story et al. And everyone's like where's the PS4 version of RDR1... Well, would it not be good, if upon completion of RDR2 you unlocked RDR1 for next gen consoles. And could continue the story in its canonical glory?

 

I know speculation only, however the more I think about it the more I want it and the More I think it's a goer and brilliant idea.

[Jason]

Right, so bear with me... At the moment I'm having a hell of a time, desperate to play RDR1 but having sold my PS3 and PS Now not running well on my internet connection I started thinking...

 

So that leaked map links to blackwater by an estuary or some such, and there's definitely some narrative crossover in terms of John, Jack and Arthur and Dutch's story et al. And everyone's like where's the PS4 version of RDR1... Well, would it not be good, if upon completion of RDR2 you unlocked RDR1 for next gen consoles. And could continue the story in its canonical glory?

 

I know speculation only, however the more I think about it the more I want it and the More I think it's a goer and brilliant idea.

 

You actually aren't the first to speculate it. It's... unlikely, but who knows?

 

Though, I'm not sure they could fit all that audio and dialogue onto one disc lol.

Edited May 11, 2018 by Jason

[Dee-account-with-1kbans]

Sony E3 is when we'll get our next look I reckon.

June 11th.

Don't @ me

[Borgeitor]

Hey guys, so I was thinking about the next treasure hunt for GTAO and I wondered, maybe it isn't a gun again, what if it is an old car from the era? Like the one we ride as a passenger in RDR1. I don't know how you would go about finding it, but it would fit perfectly in GTAO.

[Reno_]

Hey guys, so I was thinking about the next treasure hunt for GTAO and I wondered, maybe it isn't a gun again, what if it is an old car from the era? Like the one we ride as a passenger in RDR1. I don't know how you would go about finding it, but it would fit perfectly in GTAO.

I agree that it would be great for Online but I'm not sure how it would work in RDR2 as it's set more in the past than the previous game. Neat idea though.

Edited May 11, 2018 by Reno_

[Jason]

Sony E3 is when we'll get our next look I reckon.

June 11th.

Don't @ me

 

Willing to put any more body parts on the line this year?

[Dee-account-with-1kbans]

 

Sony E3 is when we'll get our next look I reckon.

June 11th.

Don't @ me

Willing to put any more body parts on the line this year?

My left nut

[zachsterosu]

I think RDR2 will force me to watch Hell on Wheels.

Lol, do it!

[luke73tnt]

 

 

Sony E3 is when we'll get our next look I reckon.

June 11th.

Don't @ me

Willing to put any more body parts on the line this year?

My left nut both of my nuts

[Kally G]

Sony just announced their E3 showcase. They mentioned the names of the first party games they plan to show but also mentioned they will show announcements from third party developers.

Edited May 11, 2018 by Kally G

[J.Dillinger Blackheart]

Lml jeezus, well uhh so Jason what are you putting up bro? RDR2 will definitely be there without tho.