Red Dead Redemption 2: Discussion & Speculation (Part 2)

[VigMarston]

"I'll post & discuss with the Forum outlaws only after some new info "

Edited March 16, 2018 by VigMarston91

[SuperKitsune]

^ Yeah hahaha, i love me some early 20th century bar brawls, son! F*cker bumps into me with some attitude, WHAM! Uppercut to jaw friend!

 

Warm afternoons, cheap alcohol, holstered guns and lots of testosteron..worst combination ever!

[Xayah]

 

 

I hope they improve melee combat (not that it's bad in RDR) but that it's something more fluid.

* I changed my mind about the Euphoria physics engine, I do not want it to be implemented in RDR2.

Why would you not want Euphoria?

With current performance capture technology, it is possible to bring much better realistic simulations. Most of the animations present in GTAIV, RDR and MP3 were done manually and this takes a lot of time.

With the current technology of motion capture and performance it is possible to capture practically all the movement of the body and pass it to the game (some details are animated by hand, but few).

 

Seems like you have no idea what Euphoria is then.

[Big_Smiley]

 

 

...Max Payne...

 

Nah, that's definitely James Earl Cash from Manhunt.

 

Probably right. I never got the chance to play Manhunt, so I'm unfamiliar with that character. Manhunt was the sh*t. Played both on the Ps2. R* didn't give any flying f*cks about the two games gaining massive controversy for it's intense gritty violence. A shame these titles never got remasters. Wonder why ....

 

Warm afternoons, cheap alcohol, holstered guns and lots of testosteron..worst combination ever!

Haha damn right the good ol' days of the wild west. Technology was nowhere near the earth back in these days. Anything could have happened. Fights, brawls, drinking loads of beer, looking at the clear skies with Hawks lookin for food, enjoying sundowns in the afternoon, Kicking back with your horses lmao. At those times who the hell needed vehicles when you could rely on your horse?

[Hugoat]

 

 

 

I hope they improve melee combat (not that it's bad in RDR) but that it's something more fluid.

* I changed my mind about the Euphoria physics engine, I do not want it to be implemented in RDR2.

Why would you not want Euphoria?

With current performance capture technology, it is possible to bring much better realistic simulations. Most of the animations present in GTAIV, RDR and MP3 were done manually and this takes a lot of time.

With the current technology of motion capture and performance it is possible to capture practically all the movement of the body and pass it to the game (some details are animated by hand, but few).

 

Seems like you have no idea what Euphoria is then.I think I ended up confusing things, I wanted to talk about the move of the playable character. That seems to be lighter and smoother on GTAV than in previous games.

** Sorry for this horrible mistake, I'm going to commit a digital suicide right now.

[Zello]

I kinda disagree they felt heavy in V but that's just me. Like after you fell or got knocked over it took forever for them to get back up and running they felt too heavy.

[Hugoat]

Can you feel the weight of the character when we are walking or running with John (or will the Xbox control weigh too much ?!) already in GTAV this is a bit lighter in my opinion, and I like it.

[SuperKitsune]

 

 

 

...Max Payne...

 

Nah, that's definitely James Earl Cash from Manhunt.

 

Probably right. I never got the chance to play Manhunt, so I'm unfamiliar with that character. Manhunt was the sh*t. Played both on the Ps2. R* didn't give any flying f*cks about the two games gaining massive controversy for it's intense gritty violence. A shame these titles never got remasters. Wonder why ....

 

Warm afternoons, cheap alcohol, holstered guns and lots of testosteron..worst combination ever!

Haha damn right the good ol' days of the wild west. Technology was nowhere near the earth back in these days. Anything could have happened. Fights, brawls, drinking loads of beer, looking at the clear skies with Hawks lookin for food, enjoying sundowns in the afternoon, Kicking back with your horses lmao. At those times who the hell needed vehicles when you could rely on your horse?

Yes exactly. That's what gives the era that unique vibe. It's unlike any other That and medieval Europe are my favorite era's (though I wouldn't want to live in them )

[~INDIO~]

Gta V is clunky and heavy as hell. Red dead is lighter and way better

[DexMacLeod]

I think I ended up confusing things, I wanted to talk about the move of the playable character. That seems to be lighter and smoother on GTAV than in previous games.

** Sorry for this horrible mistake, I'm going to commit a digital suicide right now.

Smoother, yes, lighter no. I much prefer V because the characters felt like they had more weight to them. In GTA IV and to a much lesser extent Redemption it felt like they were taking place on a different planet with far less gravity.

 

Anytime Niko or John would take even the slightest tumble they'd turn into this weightless, wonky ragdoll and it was all a bit silly. In IV especially, Niko would bounce for two blocks if you ejected him from a moving car. I wouldn't have minded it too much but since both those games were meant to look and feel a bit more gritty, the silly over the top physics just didn't fit.

 

Not sure if that affected the way the player controls or if it was just a coincidence that just moving around and turning corners on foot was much improved in V as well. Either way I'm hoping GTA V's physics is the way they're leaning for RDR2.

[Hugoat]

Probably Rockstar has upgraded to something better, expect to see only.

[Spitta_Vercetti]

 

 

 

 

Is there any one else that has just this burning feeling inside that next month RDR2 IS game informers next cover..? I 100% still do. The only way it wouldnt happen in my eyes would be if black ops 4 or shadow of the tomb raider had covers. Which i doubt that will happen. Cod has its own reveal for may and tomb raider does for late april. April is RDR2 month

Did Detroit Become human get a GI Cover yet?

i dont think so. Im not sure if it even would but unlike RDR2 i think detroit become human has done its own share of reveals and its been talked about in GI before if i rememmber correctly. Not the cover story but it had its own info page

 

Also guys im js, westworld season 2 starts next month... westworld has always been inspired by RDR and i bet in RDR2 we will get westworld easter eggs. Point being the hype for westerns will be insane coming up and the marketing starting along with that general western hype makes a lot of sense. Plus RDR anniversary coming in may, we have just about reached the end of the storm

its possible that youre the most logical person in this thread...no offense to anyone else.... haha thank you man, i try. I just try to keep things like how I truly am. cool and civilized too many folks in their emotions right now....people are already talking about another delay into 2019 like wtf????? Hahahaha

[DexMacLeod]

 

Brudda if you free we can talk about rdr2 possible sp dlcs I would looooove cowboys Vs aliens

Im actually really in support of this idea and if they hadnt made a zombie one for RDR i wouldnt be, but they found a cool way to do weird DLC's and have them not mess up the story or anything weird. Like Konami when they decided to add an entire alternate dimension in Metal Gear Survive. lol

 

I'd be fine with another "alternate universe" type DLC but I'd much rather see them expand the single player story or tell a new story in the same world. Knowing it'll probly be around a decade before they give us another game in the franchise I'd like to see them get as much story out of this world as possible.

[Hugoat]

And why not the two DLCs? I see this as something present in RDO.

[Jason]

I really want a non-canon DLC my self too. I feel like it's gonna be a good while yet before Rockstar do a genre like fantasy or sci-fi so if a DLC expansion is the route they have to go for that to happen I'm all for it.

[saintsrow]

 

 

Brudda if you free we can talk about rdr2 possible sp dlcs I would looooove cowboys Vs aliens

Im actually really in support of this idea and if they hadnt made a zombie one for RDR i wouldnt be, but they found a cool way to do weird DLC's and have them not mess up the story or anything weird. Like Konami when they decided to add an entire alternate dimension in Metal Gear Survive. lol

 

I'd be fine with another "alternate universe" type DLC but I'd much rather see them expand the single player story or tell a new story in the same world. Knowing it'll probly be around a decade before they give us another game in the franchise I'd like to see them get as much story out of this world as possible.

 

 

Since Rockstar likes to rip off be inspired by the plots and concepts of big successful movies, they should just make an outright pure Westworld DLC, as I described in the Westworld & RDR topic.

 

 

Then they would have an excuse for an open-ended Online mode with all the GTA Online toys of the modern world. Of course, you'd have to buy them all again, and rank up.

Edited March 18, 2018 by saintsrow

[Ajax-D]

Anything new?

[Trenzalore616]

Anything new?

Sadly enough no

..

[saintsrow]

Anything new?

You're kidding, right?

[SuperKitsune]

I really want a non-canon DLC my self too. I feel like it's gonna be a good while yet before Rockstar do a genre like fantasy or sci-fi so if a DLC expansion is the route they have to go for that to happen I'm all for it.

It's 1993, one year after the events of gta sa. Cj decided to take a little stroll with his fancy jetpack, he tried to impress everyone with how gangsta he was and he pushed the wrong button and there he went..

 

 

He broke the sound barrier and ended up in an alternate space universe. There he has to work with people like cyber soviet vercetti and mecha arthur morgan to return to our timeline all the while nuclear asteroid sweet keeps complaining about all the graffiti on the space ships.

 

 

Lol now that's what I call a dlc

[B_E_N_1992]

Undead Nightmare II

[HandSoap2811]

Undead Nightmare II

I dont think they even need to do another SP DLC, just dont completely ignore RDR2's SP for online im sure they could make a lot of people happy if they just add new content that they release in RDR online to SP

[arno_cat]

Undead Nightmare but replacing zombies with aliens...

[happygrowls]

Undead Nightmare but replacing zombies with aliens...

please no

[Trenzalore616]

 

Undead Nightmare but replacing zombies with aliens...

please noCowboys Vs Aliens would be dope

[happygrowls]

 

 

Undead Nightmare but replacing zombies with aliens...

please no

Cowboys Vs Aliens would be dope

 

i mean.. the movie wasn't that bad. It just would not fit Redemption 2, Undead Nightmare had a kind of realistic set up and was quite believable

[BootyWarrior]

Undead Nightmare 2 with werewolves would be dope

[damienrayemusic]

Undead Nightmare II with zombies, werewolves, ans ghosts/possessive demons from native legends or whatever freaky tales they got, would be DOPE

i especially want the ghosts/spirits... thats not goofy either, they could easily make storyline out of hauntings and real ghost stories in the west. So many people died and especially were killed.. its as simple as that , theres your "realism" right there

Edited March 17, 2018 by damienrayemusic

[Trenzalore616]

Undead Nightmare II with zombies, werewolves, ans ghosts/possessive demons from native legends or whatever freaky tales they got, would be DOPE

i especially want the ghosts/spirits... thats not goofy either, they could easily make storyline out of hauntings and real ghost stories in the west.

Not bad the first rdr had some Easter eggs like that

[damienrayemusic]

 

Undead Nightmare II with zombies, werewolves, ans ghosts/possessive demons from native legends or whatever freaky tales they got, would be DOPE

i especially want the ghosts/spirits... thats not goofy either, they could easily make storyline out of hauntings and real ghost stories in the west.

Not bad the first rdr had some Easter eggs like that yes sir! I loved going through tumbleweed to try finding all of them. Really hope R* dives deeper into all that because ghosts and stories of those things were huge in the west like for real they were