Next DLC Speculation Thread (Part 6)

[Anachronistic]

You're lecturing the wrong person, I'm sure Auscowboy is more than acquainted with the A-10. 

 

He's saying stop lamenting the jet it isn't and start using it as the jet it is and you'll find yourself much happier with it. 

 

And since it is the aircraft that it is and not what it isn't they shouldn't touch the handling. 

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

1 hour ago, Anachronistic said:

You're lecturing the wrong person, I'm sure Auscowboy is more than acquainted with the A-10. 

 

He's saying stop lamenting the jet it isn't and start using it as the jet it is and you'll find yourself much happier with it. 

 

And since it is the aircraft that it is and not what it isn't they shouldn't touch the handling. 

I mean, he does have a point (and so do you) thankfully the B-11 Strikeforce is not totally useless, which is nice.

 

But it just feels wrong having an A-10 of all things at the top of the dogfight chain while having a sh*tty cannon. It's the complete opposite of what it's in real life.

 

It's odd seeing the same company proud of having such attention to detail in their games missing the mark badly with several vehicles, which is a shame, because the B-11 Strikeforce, sans being smaller, it's pretty much spot on design wise (that A-10 + YA-9 + YA-10B mix is quite clever).

Edited September 30, 2018 by Voodoo-Hendrix
Zpelling

[thepiebaker]

3 hours ago, Voodoo-Hendrix said:

Here's the thing, the A-10 Thunderbolt is mostly famous because of its GAU-8 Avenger rotary cannon, not because of its Hydra-70 rocket pods, Sidewinder missiles or laser guided bombs.

 

It's literally a flying gun, a plane built around a cannon, hell, it became an internet meme because of the sound of its cannon.

 

All of this just for R* to make the cannon of the B-11 Strikeforce as sh*tty as possible and it's even worse when both the Lazer and Hydra and Savage (albeit with way lower range) still have their actually overpowered explosive cannons after years of complains and "counters" like R2K missiles and Explosive Sniper Rounds that are OP on their own right.

 

That's just some mind numbing logic, it's like R* finally decided to nerf the jet's cannons but started with the worst possible candidate ever.

 

For what is worth, I'm fine with the small splash radius of the B-11 Strikeforce cannon (all explosive cannons should be like that), all that it needs is a serious buff to its rate of fire, right now it's insultingly slow. A nerf to its maneuverability is needed too, it's absurd having an A-10 going toe to toe with actuall fighter jets.

 

What's the point of putting a car, a plane or whatever into the game if R* is not going to make it justice?

It honestly seems like R* is going to lower the standard of performance (saaassssssasaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasssssasasas update anyone?) However it damn well should apply to all

[Geisterfaust]

55 minutes ago, Voodoo-Hendrix said:

It's odd seeing the same company proud of having such attention to detail in their games missing the mark badly with several vehicles

Not only with the vehicles. Weapons is probably the weakest point in GTA in general: massive imbalances and general inaccuracy. A lot of cool guns are too underpowered, let's take for example .50 BMG  in-game representation, it's a joke, starting from the .50 handgun based on IMI Deagle that should only have 7 in the mag, but there's 9 like it should be with .357. And .50 in-game is seriously lacking the punch, especially in the heavy sniper. This is anti-material rifle and the closest it is to the state it should have been is FMJ rounds + Bullshark. 

 

So yeah, it would be nice to see some new guns that are interesting to use and properly implemented. Any update with the new proper guns will get and instant approval from me.

[Volganor]

8 hours ago, hei3enberg said:

Any update with the new proper guns will get and instant approval from me.

Same, and this is what was the most infuriating thing about GUNrunning: only six "new" weapons on an update that should had been all about weapons, and I actually like MkII guns a lot.

 

And even though I only addressed this part of your post, I agree with everything in it. I don't use the Pistol .50 more often due to how puny it is.

 

I went off-topic inside this spoiler but don't want to get rid of what I wrote because I find it relevant:

 

 

They also made the MkII Heavy Sniper a meme in that update with its explosive rounds. Don't take me wrong, a hard counter against Hydras and Lazers was a long way coming, but not how they did it. I still remember a post by you, @hei3enberg, way back then, that correctly laid out how the .50 cal should have worked and it was pretty much spot on.

My way to bring a type of explosive rounds for the sniper would have been much like how Watch_Dogs' The Destroyer worked. It was a Barrett M107CQ with only two rounds per magazine that instantly disabled the engines of vehicles that it hit. It didn't explode anywhere or on any surface and could be used like a normal sniper rifle against personnel if you found yourself in a pinch. Whip it out to swat some of those flies out of the sky but the pilots still had a chance to jump out.

I will admit that the MkII we got with explosive rounds is a guilty pleasure to use in PvE environments because it's the perfect power fantasy. In PvP? No, I hate it and am glad the "boom" rounds were nerfed against players.

Edited October 1, 2018 by Volganor

[REXX]

5 minutes ago, Volganor said:

Same, and this what was the most infuriating thing about GUNrunning: only six "new" weapons on an update that should be all about weapons

I went absolutely apesh*t when an update called GUNrunning featured the RailGUN during a GUNrunning source mission for parts from a RailGUN that didn't even make a GUN. That would have "technically" been a new GUN.

Edited September 30, 2018 by REXX
Emphasizing GUN 😂

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

53 minutes ago, hei3enberg said:

Not only with the vehicles. Weapons is probably the weakest point in GTA in general: massive imbalances and general inaccuracy. A lot of cool guns are too underpowered, let's take for example .50 BMG  in-game representation, it's a joke, starting from the .50 handgun based on IMI Deagle that should only have 7 in the mag, but there's 9 like it should be with .357. And .50 in-game is seriously lacking the punch, especially in the heavy sniper. This is anti-material rifle and the closest it is to the state it should have been is FMJ rounds + Bullshark. 

 

So yeah, it would be nice to see some new guns that are interesting to use and properly implemented. Any update with the new proper guns will get and instant approval from me.

I was just thinking about making a big post in the Gameplay Ideas Wishlist topic about how many weapons could be tweaked so they could resemble their RL counterparts better.

 

Like for example, the MG should carry 100 rounds (instead of 54) with Default Clip, the Machine Pistol should carry 72 rounds (instead of 36) with a Drum Magazine and so on.

[HamwithCheese]

So r* thinks they can make more money off of GTA right? Would it be wrong to assume they'll revert some resources into gta5 once rdro launches?

[Happy Hunter]

Seeing the B-11 complained about in my absence makes me feel good. Buff buff buff.

 

Just wanted to restate my position anyway, that the cannon is horrible and utterly sucks. The bombs are also pretty terrible. Bit better than the cannon, but nowhere near as big as they should be.

 

Shame, since other stuff has been done well.

 

 

Buff pls.

[thepiebaker]

3 hours ago, HamwithCheese said:

So r* thinks they can make more money off of GTA right? Would it be wrong to assume they'll revert some resources into gta5 once rdro launches?

That's where my money is. They had a deadline for redrum2 in order to reach it they siphoned resources off gta which could do without some. Which is why it appeared both nightclub and sasasassssassaaaasaa were delayed and subpar as far as what they SHOULD have been... besides they dont need as massive of a workforce on drumred2 due to the fact the games now gone gold. Theyd reallocate their workforce the dlc teams on red dead, Reinforcing gta5, and also on their future projects.

[Shadowfennekin]

5 hours ago, HamwithCheese said:

So r* thinks they can make more money off of GTA right? Would it be wrong to assume they'll revert some resources into gta5 once rdro launches?

Well if they want to launch a DLC in December, yeah. A smaller team won't cut it

[MaddenedGhost]

12 hours ago, HamwithCheese said:

So r* thinks they can make more money off of GTA right? Would it be wrong to assume they'll revert some resources into gta5 once rdro launches?

I feel like that will really depend on the reception of RDRO, if they see that they can milk that, they'll probably ditch GTAO, if not, they'll pull another filler in March.

A December DLC at this point doesn't make any sense, by the time December starts, they would have just gotten RDRO on it's feet with all the launch problems and stuff like that, there's noway they'll be like "okay, we got RDRO well and running, lets go back to GTAO" it makes no sense.

[IceDree]

Today is Online's 5th anniversary, Happy birthday you magnificent bastard! 

 

What are the chances they do a special event & celebrate tomorrow instead of doing it in the last week of October, like in pervious years?

 

____

^^ I don't know dude. You know what's better than milking one cow? Milking 2 cows simultaneously!

[555-We-Tip]

I fear we'll be lucky if we get anything remotely interesting tomorrow...

[AUScowboy]

Mmmm, cow milk...

 

 

TBH, I'm less optimistic as time passes about a Dec update. A month and change from release and less than a month from RDR2 Online seems awfully close for a massive end of year GTAO DLC. Hoping I'm wrong as I desperately want new cars, but even then, they'll still have those sh*tty flags so it's hard to be optimistic.

 

I also think the Dec DLC may be swayed by how well RDR2/O is received. If it's released with a bunch of bugs and problems, that decreases the chances of a Dec GTAO update. If it does way better than expected, I could also see that as a reason to put the Dec update on hold. We should have an idea soon hopefully, the whole thing is making me really miss our dude Yan

[Kernel]

Honestly all I want right now is for Rockstar to revamp their scrapped Heavy Rifle (SCAR-H) and release it to Online.

[APB]

Tomorrow will be an interesting day, I wonder if they will celebrate the anniversary or not.

[Shadowfennekin]

5 hours ago, 555-We-Tip said:

I fear we'll be lucky if we get anything remotely interesting tomorrow...

Probably not, they skipped out on releasing the remaining cars when Running Back was released and since Sumo is tomorrow... the Futo and others will be next Tuesday.

I'm just keeping my fingers crossed for good events.

[JustAnothaBrickinDaWal]

3 hours ago, Kernel said:

Honestly all I want right now is for Rockstar to revamp their scrapped Heavy Rifle (SCAR-H) and release it to Online.

That and the hk21 rifle, assault sniper which acts like the marksman sniper, prgrammable ar, mk2 advanced rifle, and a heavy pistol mk2 which is based of the colt 1911 

Edited October 1, 2018 by JustAnothaBrickinDaWal

[Shadowfennekin]

Any new non-MK II weapons would be greatly appreciated!

Apart from more hack and slash melee weapons.... at least make it interesting and give us a dildo or katana rather than another f*cking axe!

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

We need both new weapons at Ammunation and new Mk II upgrades too!

[MeisterJazz]

6 hours ago, APB said:

Tomorrow will be an interesting day, I wonder if they will celebrate the anniversary or not.

I imagine this is what the people at R are like right now. We're obviously Peter...

 

[el sombre]

21 hours ago, Shadowfennekin said:

Well if they want to launch a DLC in December, yeah. A smaller team won't cut it

Rockstar North is not Rockstar San Diego, no one working on GTaO has touched RDR2, and vice versa

[CarimboHanky]

On 9/30/2018 at 1:30 PM, Alvarez said:

Speculating about RPG vs. Insurgent becoming an official Adversary Mode. (while being butchered in favour of QC opinion)

to be honest im surprised they never made that into a official AM, rpg vs insurgent was tha sh*t a few years ago while i was on ps3

56 minutes ago, el sombre said:

Rockstar North is not Rockstar San Diego, no one working on GTaO has touched RDR2, and vice versa

R* san diego it still R*, im sure they can allocate employee to work on whatever they tell them to.

[FuturePastNow]

I like the Mk II weapons, I'd pay for more of them.

 

I don't like the B-11's crappy cannon.

[lll-H-I-M-lll]

2 hours ago, FuturePastNow said:

I like the Mk II weapons, I'd pay for more of them.

 

I don't like the B-11's crappy cannon.

The barrage makes up for the lack on cannon though, its a bit more challenging as well 

[nido997]

2 hours ago, CarimboHanky said:

rpg vs insurgent was tha sh*t a few years ago while i was on ps3

 

it is STILL the sh*t till this day, at least for me , there is in fact 2 PC crews playing RvI constantly ( on a daily basis) : PIMP and RISO ... i´ve been playing it since early 2016 , it just never gets old ! best LTS ever !

 

so , can we expect the ol´ "new" dripfeed cars to be released today on SSAS ? or will it be just Sumo remix ? (I love that AM BTW )

Edited October 2, 2018 by nido997

[Volganor]

1 hour ago, nido997 said:

so , can we expect the ol´ "new" dripfeed cars to be released today on SSAS ? or will it be just Sumo remix ? (I love that AM BTW )

It's most likely just Sumo (Remix) since old vehicles being released haven't coincided with a new AM yet. That and one of the ten liveries that were added this update being enabled for one or two more vehicles.

 

However, I don't know about the rest of you, but I'd rather have Sumo (Remix) be delayed for another week and instead have the liveries for the Penumbra, Mamba and Coquette Classic - and maybe the Prairie or Ruiner and Futo pairing as well - being released today, together with some attention being given to original game modes like contact missions, survivals, deathmatches, land races and the like. Have those doubled instead for Online's anniversary. 

 

You know, having some respect for the past and the game's legacy instead of more neon visual garbage.

 

Edit: Tunables updated.

Edited October 2, 2018 by Volganor

[Horrid_Saiyam]

Sumo Remix is out now 

Edited October 2, 2018 by Horrid_Saiyam

[Black-Dragon96]

4 minutes ago, Horrid_Saiyam said:

Sumo Remix is out now 

Any discounts and bonuses?