Next DLC Speculation Thread (Part 4)

[Xiled]

No, pretty much every vehicle in GTA 2 could be weaponized.

Some with "awards" but a majority of the vehicles were not.

http://gta.wikia.com/wiki/Vehicles_in_GTA_2

http://gtaforums.com/topic/881112-gta2-car-crusher-rewards/

Edited October 30, 2017 by Xiled

[Happy Hunter]

I guess at this point no one cares what's the name of the next update or what's the theme of it, as long as it breaks away from weaponized vehicles and supercars, right?

Actually I'm cool with them as long as they're the good kind, and not the goofy kind.

 

So flying bikes are a no. But a big new tank? I wouldn't say no to that. Or more helicopters. That said, the Hunter will have me content for now. I just want that before anything else.

 

 

Weaponized vehicles have been around since GTA 2.

Yes the armed land rover with a minigun and the tank in gta 2. Meanwhile gta online has 18 weaponized vehicles excluding the 20 weaponized aircrafts.

I'm guessing GTA V's multiplayer also has a lot more non-weaponized vehicles too? How many of those do both games have?

 

I mean, GTA 2 is very old; GTA V is a much more modern game. I'd be surprised if it didn't have more of everything.

 

Do weaponized vehicles belong in gta? Yes in singleplayer where there balanced not in gta online where there not balanced.

Debatable to be honest. I see it as a bit like saying Doom can't have the Cyberdemon or the Hell Knights just because they're more powerful than the main character. Or Resident Evil can't have the Tyrant, or Silent Hill can't have Pyramid Head.

 

All single player games, but my point is sometimes it adds to a game when you have an enemy that's more powerful than usual. It doesn't bother me that there's a player controlling them, or that they might hurt my K/D or whatever. I just see it a boss to defeat in a videogame, like any other game.

 

I guess it's something for a different thread though.

[rifledude]

I hope the new weaponized vehicles include a Humvee. There are Humvees with missile launchers on them in real life, so it could be another option for AA missiles besides the AA trailer.

 

The military Patriot has been my number 1 vehicle on my wishlist since before day 1.

 

There are unlimited variations of the HMMWV depending on branch of service, country of service, time served, and date of manufacture. Soft tops, hard tops, ambulances, cargo transport, comm systems, AA, AT, traditional gun turrets and remote weapon systems. Variants from completely armored all the way down to doorless, roofless special forces platforms. Not to mention any of the civilian variants.

 

I hope if they finally do the Patriot they do it justice and throw in at least a few variations.

[carnerd3000]

 

I hope the new weaponized vehicles include a Humvee. There are Humvees with missile launchers on them in real life, so it could be another option for AA missiles besides the AA trailer.

 

The military Patriot has been my number 1 vehicle on my wishlist since before day 1.

 

There are unlimited variations of the HMMWV depending on branch of service, country of service, time served, and date of manufacture. Soft tops, hard tops, ambulances, cargo transport, comm systems, AA, AT, traditional gun turrets and remote weapon systems. Variants from completely armored all the way down to doorless, roofless special forces platforms. Not to mention any of the civilian variants.

 

I hope if they finally do the Patriot they do it justice and throw in at least a few variations.

 

 

I think a Patriot Classic would be nice to see in this next update as well, but who knows what they will give us.

[Mach1bud]

^ Impressed by your knowledge.

 

Idc about any Humvees being added but it should have definitely been in the game from the start. The Jeep is silly.

[rifledude]

^ Impressed by your knowledge.

 

Idc about any Humvees being added but it should have definitely been in the game from the start. The Jeep is silly.

 

The fact that they teased an M998 on the H2 platform on a pre release ad that never made it into the game makes me salty.

[carnerd3000]

^ Impressed by your knowledge.

 

Idc about any Humvees being added but it should have definitely been in the game from the start. The Jeep is silly.

 

Aw come on, the Crusader is cool and - well, actually I agree it's weird that we have that instead of a Humvee of some sort.

 

Edit: Hey, has anyone heard from CarimboHanky in a while? I know he had to deal with a hurricane, but I was actually just wondering if he heard anything from the janitor at all.

Edited October 30, 2017 by carnerd3000

[KingBen]

 

^ Impressed by your knowledge.

 

Idc about any Humvees being added but it should have definitely been in the game from the start. The Jeep is silly.

Aw come on, the Crusader is cool and - well, actually I agree it's weird that we have that instead of a Humvee of some sort.

 

Edit: Hey, has anyone heard from CarimboHanky in a while? I know he had to deal with a hurricane, but I was actually just wondering if he heard anything from the janitor at all.

 

Im almost positive I saw him post on here in the last few days.

[carnerd3000]

 

 

^ Impressed by your knowledge.

 

Idc about any Humvees being added but it should have definitely been in the game from the start. The Jeep is silly.

Aw come on, the Crusader is cool and - well, actually I agree it's weird that we have that instead of a Humvee of some sort.

 

Edit: Hey, has anyone heard from CarimboHanky in a while? I know he had to deal with a hurricane, but I was actually just wondering if he heard anything from the janitor at all.

 

Im almost positive I saw him post on here in the last few days.

 

 

Yeah, I thought so too.

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

I hope we get a ride that looks like a VW beetle like Herbie in the I'm not a hipster part 2

A non off-road Injection could be sweet.

 

Do weaponized vehicles belong in gta? Yes in singleplayer where there balanced not in gta online where there not balanced.

Weaponized Vehicles should belong in GTAO, when properly balanced.

 

But we know that a balanced, fair and fun fight doesn't sell as much as being capable of steamrolling other players as easier and safe as possible.

[The Ost]

 

No, pretty much every vehicle in GTA 2 could be weaponized.

Some with "awards" but a majority of the vehicles were not.

http://gta.wikia.com/wiki/Vehicles_in_GTA_2

http://gtaforums.com/topic/881112-gta2-car-crusher-rewards/

 

http://gta.wikia.com/wiki/Garages_in_GTA_2

[carnerd3000]

 

 

No, pretty much every vehicle in GTA 2 could be weaponized.

Some with "awards" but a majority of the vehicles were not.

http://gta.wikia.com/wiki/Vehicles_in_GTA_2

http://gtaforums.com/topic/881112-gta2-car-crusher-rewards/

 

http://gta.wikia.com/wiki/Garages_in_GTA_2

 

 

Oh sh*t, that actually makes me think of my speculation from a few days ago about Full Auto-style vehicles (or vehicle customization) being added in the next update.

[White ranger]

I think r* had really done for the weaponized land vehicles, we already have the Vigilante, that have the best outlook, top speed with rocket engine, super mass same with the insurgent, great power like the ruiner2000, we dont need a flying car or flying boat, we dont want a swimming plane, so it is just perfect now, please focus on a real weaponized boat or jet.

[bulldog385]

I Hope for a Rancher from GTA IV. I want a "Fall Guy" Truck Replica.

[DrSame]

Meanwhile Mrbossftw just took every speculation here and made it into seperate 10 min videos

 

I guess thats normal then

Woah you are right, he made like 4 videos just about everything Mach and Yan said.

[Assass1nsH]

I dont even care about the rest of the drip feed anymore I cant even afford anything I just want to see if what I can afford the next update. Lets hope Im not a hipster pt 2 is pretty fair with content and pricing like pt 1.

[Xiled]

If you take gta v for military vehicles at has a good amount as the other games. You take gta online and there has been a massive increase of weaponized vehicles. If they were balanced properly or some not in online for the sake of balance, I wouldn't care so much. However my liking of military vehicles in gta do to online makes me not want anymore added to do all of the chaos, trolling, and griefing they cause and caused to other players. Balance is the key to things that should be in a gta game. As most of them are not balanced in online because it lets some people pay real money to ruin a fun experience for others players.

 

Things like bad sport should apply to someone spawn killing another player with an overpowered vehicle not for defending yourself and destroying said weaponized vehicle. Started back with things like the Kuruma and Insurgent. Oh a player can kill me in a basically bullet proof car, but if I blow it up, I get punished for doing so. Its a shame rockstar lets players ruin each others fun or experience to make a quick dollar. Like I knew the hydra for people who would stunt in it, now I see it as a vehicle that ruins others fun.

 

[rifledude]

If weaponized vehicles weren't in the game, players would grief you and troll you with some other means.

 

I was in a lobby the other day with a friend that had just recently started playing the game and I was sitting nearby in my insurgent, on my phone or whatever (I don't remember). Some lower level player drives passed me and starts killing my friend who just started and had nothing but a pistol basically. No insurgent, oppressor, hydra. Just some guy in a regular car going out of their way to pick on somebody because they can.

 

You can complain about any of the weaponized vehicles you want, but that behavior is never going away from GTA Online. It may make that behavior easier to engage in, but it also gives you an avenue to counter it.

 

The only way you're going to see a reduction in player aggression is for the game to completely change the incentives for PvP. That's not going to happen because R* considers players going after each other valid gameplay.

 

I would much prefer to see traditional weaponized vehicles instead of things like the oppressor personally, but there's definitely room for more weaponized vehicles (and other things).

[Xiled]

Yay another person who thinks I'm "complaining" because I criticize how rockstar has done things in the game. I think we need a break from weaponized vehicles. Add some more regular cars people have been asking for, for a change

If rockstar would stop enabling players to easily troll it would reduce the amount of people who do. It will always happen but if you give a guy a hand gun in a fist fight it makes it easier to kill the other person. Hard for me to take the game is "fine" from someone with a fighter jet for an avatar. I don't want gta online to turn into a PvP only game. There are lots of different playstyles and one shouldn't take over. Gonna lose players if you keep doing it rockstar.

Edited October 30, 2017 by Xiled

[rifledude]

Hard for me to take the game is "fine" from someone with a fighter jet for an avatar.

 

Rude.

 

For one, I sympathize with your viewpoint. It's just your problem is the symptom and not the root cause of the problem. Taking a break from weaponized vehicles isn't going to stop players from attacking you. Even if you removed all of the weaponized vehicles, the problem will still continue. You're asking for a behavior change. People are just mean in GTA Online.

 

Two. Pretty sure the open lobby is definitely meant for PvP. All of the CEO/biker, open world challenges, bounties etc etc are to push for a PvP experience. Heists, missions and such are your PvE content.

 

Three. Gunrunning was one of the more popular updates. I don't think they're going to lose players from weaponized vehicles, although I can admit I don't have the stats to back that claim up.

 

Lastly, I'm not against non weaponized vehicles in the game. There should be both. Just because I'm after a military Patriot doesn't mean I don't think they should add a Declasse pickup or a Dominator classic.

[Commander S]

I do think it'd be nice to go one update without some weaponised/military/novelty stuff of some kind - same with luxury cars. We've had nothing but since the back-end of Import/Export, with only a handful of exceptions (Retinue, Elegy Retro, etc.). Particularly if this next thing is indeed Hipster 2 - if any update deserves to be a (well-needed) break from that stuff, an INAH sequel certainly does.

 

In an ideal world, Hipster 2 would be like Bikers - pretty much all-in with the theme, affordable vehicles for the most part, and with the business/Maze Bank Foreclosures stuff evolving the format, rather than just being another iteration on the same. For instance, the Biker businesses have unique NPCs, interesting interiors, etc. - there's not been anything else that really comes close, so it'd be nice to have something with that kind of depth sooner or later.

[Happy Hunter]

To be honest, I don't really see a balance problem with military aircraft. If there is one - if anything I'd say it's the other way round.

 

 

^That should be enough for any aircraft.

 

Ground vehicles are a different story I guess, since they tend to have enough armour to survive plenty of hits from it (compare the Bombushka's 3 to an APC's 20 or so). Still, if they're that armoured they're typically slow enough to outrun.

 

I have more of a problem with insurance, passive being too loose, how so many attack vehicles can just be spawned on the spot (some with no cooldown), how you can buy endless explosives from the interaction menu, etc.

 

I do think it'd be nice to go one update without some weaponised/military/novelty stuff of some kind - same with luxury cars. We've had nothing but since the back-end of Import/Export, with only a handful of exceptions (Retinue, Elegy Retro, etc.).

Well that's talking about goofy vehicles, which I disavow. Actual military aircraft, we only just got them in Smuggler's Run, after waiting years.

 

I don't need more next update anyway - the Hunter will keep me content for a long time. I just see the speak of them being removed from multiplayer, and - meh, I just have to disagree with that.

[LL Cool L]

that video from Xiled really makes me wanna play san andreas...

 

...yh when I get home tonight

[Commander S]

 

I do think it'd be nice to go one update without some weaponised/military/novelty stuff of some kind - same with luxury cars. We've had nothing but since the back-end of Import/Export, with only a handful of exceptions (Retinue, Elegy Retro, etc.).

Well that's talking about goofy vehicles, which I disavow. Actual military aircraft, we only just got them in Smuggler's Run, after waiting years.

 

I don't need more next update anyway - the Hunter will keep me content for a long time. I just see the speak of them being removed from multiplayer, and - meh, I just have to disagree with that.

 

I mean, for players who aren't all that into combat vehicles in general, and/or don't really care for blowing other players up in Freemode, there's not that much difference between Smuggler's Run and Gunrunning, other than one's mainly land-based, the other air-based.

 

Frankly, I think they're close enough thematically that R* could have maybe broken them up, and put Hipster 2 in between, to have a bit of contrast between the two (and maybe not put any weaponised stuff in it, either - split it between GR and SR instead), but eh, it is what it is.

 

 

Same thing applies for the Freemode stuff - like I said about maybe taking cues from Bikers, instead of GR/SR, it'd be nice to have something where the bulk of gameplay feels like a change from these last two updates. Not everyone's into that style of play/update, plenty of folk have gotten weary of month after month after month of 'more of the same', and so I just hope R* makes 'Hipster 2' (or whatever it's called) feel fresh and different. Or else, what's the point in having an INAH-theme update?

[Happy Hunter]

I mean, for players who aren't all that into combat vehicles in general, and/or don't really care for blowing other players up in Freemode, there's not that much difference between Smuggler's Run and Gunrunning, other than one's mainly land-based, the other air-based.

Frankly, I think they're close enough thematically that R* could have maybe broken them up, and put Hipster 2 in between, to have a bit of contrast between the two (and maybe not put any weaponised stuff in it, either - split it between GR and SR instead), but eh, it is what it is.

Well one of them's sh*tty flying bikes; the other's Apaches and other decent stuff. But people who didn't look much into them might think they look similar on the surface I guess.

 

You could kind of say they work with each other too - gunrunning is the tools to beat the stuff in Smuggler's Run.

 

Same thing applies for the Freemode stuff - like I said about maybe taking cues from Bikers, instead of GR/SR, it'd be nice to have something where the bulk of gameplay feels like a change from these last two updates. Not everyone's into that style of play/update, plenty of folk have gotten weary of month after month after month of 'more of the same', and so I just hope R* makes 'Hipster 2' (or whatever it's called) feel fresh and different. Or else, what's the point in having an INAH-theme update?

If I'm honest I grew weary of basically the entirety of 2016, just cars being dripped out slowly, with the odd goofy thing hurting the game as a whole.

 

But like I said, I've had my thing with Smuggler's Run, and the Hunter will keep me content for a while. I don't really mind what's next particularly. I just wanted to speak against the idea of removing armed vehicles form the game.

[Commander S]

In that case, I think you were debating past my point - I'm not talking 'removing what's already there', I'm just saying 'put out updates that cater to different play styles'.

 

Frankly, when you look for 'updates with a mix of vehicle eras, classes, styles, tastes, etc.' plus 'decent/varied character customisation options', like you'd expect from a follow-up to INAH, the last time R* really did something like that was Ill-Gotten Gains 1 and 2 - everything else has tended to be single-theme (so if you're not into said theme, tough luck... ).

 

Hopefully R* mixes up the vehicles this time, too - the beauty of INAH and IGG was that while most people probably wouldn't be into everything, there'd most likely be something for everyone in there. That, and things we'd never had before (or since, in some cases) - ...aaand now I really want to know what the vehicle list is going to be!

Edited October 30, 2017 by Commander S

[Adri The Classic Guy]

I kinda agree with the idea of leaving the weaponized stuff for a while, since I/E we had plenty of toys to play with (but not the ultimate toy yet ) but i wouldnt remove the ones we got, we have ways to deal with them now, so thats not a problem for me at least.

But the idea of getting an update that is not gun related gives me some hope, and maybe with some "vintage" stuff in the way hypes me a bit.

Edited October 30, 2017 by adrilp

[lll-H-I-M-lll]

 

Meanwhile Mrbossftw just took every speculation here and made it into seperate 10 min videos

 

I guess thats normal then

Woah you are right, he made like 4 videos just about everything Mach and Yan said.

 

Well thats what he does. I personally don't mind his vids gives me something to watch at work when skiving.

[Mach1bud]

 

Meanwhile Mrbossftw just took every speculation here and made it into seperate 10 min videos

 

I guess thats normal then

Woah you are right, he made like 4 videos just about everything Mach and Yan said.

Good thing 99.9% of the sh*t I have said is completely made up out of my own head.

[REXX]

^ I wonder what that 0,01% could be