Next DLC Speculation Thread (Part 4)

[Commander S]

 

 

What about Import/Export Part 2, first? Or maybe Bikers Part 2?

 

...oh, wait - that's kinda what Gunrunning is: R* tweaking the Bikers business format, tweaking the Special Vehicles, and then taking those two developments and merging them into the same update.

 

In fact, if you take the small 'filler' updates out of the equation (Be My Valentine, Lowriders: Custom Classics, and Special Vehicle Circuit), and the same with Cunning Stunts (because that's technically a concept dating back closer to around Heists - before R* started the Freemode business angle), everything else starting from E&OC has been a development/expansion on the SecuroServ Freemode work concept.

 

E&OC, FAFF, Bikers, Import/Export, Gunrunning - each thing adds new details and tweaks to the format, with research being one of the latest ones. Odds are good that R* will carry on with this approach for big updates (like, for instance, whatever they bring out in December - December updates trend more 'expansive'), with whatever theme they choose to go with for each.

 

With that in mind, maybe it's a bit of a stretch to assume 'Gunrunning Part 2', instead of 'SecuroServ-style stuff Part 6' - quite possibly with a new HQ property, new special/weaponised/whatever vehicles (and no doubt some cult TV/movie-inspired things - I'm putting good money on Airwolf eventually... ). In other words, I'm thinking a broader interpretation of constituent parts of the update (in the same way that Gunrunning owes a lot to previous recent updates), rather than a direct follow-up with the exact same theme.

 

"Gunrunning II" alludes to an expansion of the current update not just in the gameplay aspect but also retaining the the theme of smuggling weapons. It's a stretch calling Bikers and Gunrunning extensions of the F & F model, same thing with calling I/E an extension of FAFF. All it was was an extension of the gameplay model introduced with FAFF, literally everything else was under a different theme.

 

Sure it expanded on what FAFF introduced with the CEO model but under a vastly different theme.. moving cars instead of crates, thus a whole update based around stealing and selling cars. I would hardly call that a sequel rather than an extension of sorts.

 

The talk here about Gunrunning II to Gunrunning is not comparable to Bikers and I/E following FAFF at all. FAFF was actually a proper sequel to Executives being that it built on the prestigious VIP status of the city to allowing you to go even higher up the ladder and become a CEO and that's where it peaked. It built on Executives' theme of graft and luxury and even added all the clothing from that update to be purchaseable with FAFF. Not to mention the similar system of hiring associates with the VIP status. Rockstar themselves called it a sequel to Executives:

 

http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/52611/gta-online-new-updates-coming-soon

 

So yeah, I doubt what the talk about Gunrunning II here alludes to it being simply more fetch quests but without the same theme of smuggling weapons. If anything, it'll probably introduce different ways of stealing weapons (hopefully) or at the bare minimum more creative supply and sale missions. Oh, and a sh*tload of aircraft this time around.

 

Basically, everything that had potential to be built on in Gunrunning (weapons, clothes, cars, aircraft etc.) will be Gunrunning II. I can definitely say there was some solid content introduced w Gunrunning that begged to be built on/added more to.

 

Thing is, the whole 'that's just expanding on the overall gameplay model, not the theme of the update' thing was my point - I don't think that there's any guarantee that R* will go back and do an expansion of Gunrunning in terms of the cosmetic theme. Like I said, I reckon we're more likely to see updates that expand on those models and trends, with ...whatever wrapper R* decides to use as a theme. After all, R* didn't need to go all-in with a semi/not-really military update with the original special vehicles, so I don't see that they have to do a direct follow-up to Gunrunning in order to deliver something that's functionally identical to a 'Gunrunning Part 2'.

 

As for all the talk of a Gunrunning 2, I suspect that's just wishlisting and speculation, not anything concrete - specifically, it seems like a lot of people are (understandably) hoping that a second Gunrunning update would wind up being the full-on military thing that Gunrunning itself very much wasn't. I get that - but at the same time, what I said about looking beyond the surface details of the theme is why I think people shouldn't get their hopes up about that. Ideally, Gunrunning would have been more of an authentic military/mercenary update - but considering how popular things like the Ruiner 2000 and Oppressor have been, I fully expect R* to keep doubling down on that kind of thing, rather than move away from that to something more grounded.

[Rafae]

That's the thing.. somewhat reputable folks like Mas and Bender wouldn't be touting it as Gunrunning II if it was just an expansion of the freeroam work model we've been getting with the last few updates, Gunrunning II sounds like a direct sequel to Gunrunning, retaining the theme and everything.

 

The reception to Gunrunning was quite enormous (both good and bad), dare I say the loudest since probably Heists so I can only imagine they'd want to fix what they got wrong from the customers' perspective and then build on and add to what was already solid quality wise but lacking in quantity.

 

Gunrunning II just makes alot of sense. It's been a highly requested themed update for many and I can tell there's quite a demand for more of this. BIKERS not so much as Rockstar poured their hearts out with that one update alone and catered enormously to the hardcore Biker community amongst many others. I/E was an extremely popular update too I can only imagine somewhat of a sequel is in the works for that as well (Maybe the awfully long requested Tuners update )

[please stop me]

 

 

Possibility of extending the classics collection to sea vehicles? like the squalo & jetmax? I would love to see a crazy fast, mean looking boat like the cuban jetmax in gta online.

 

 

 

 

 

Did you see my recent tweet about exactly this? I have wanted the old school Jetmax for quite some time. One condition though, it must have the Franken Stange or Tornado Rat Rod engines. Or at least a supercharged V8 of some sort, moving belt and nice idle.

 

Yes, was your actual tweet that got me thinking about the jetmax again haha! If rockstar did release this beast it would have to go all out no stops.

Edited July 14, 2017 by Nasty Noodles

[UlquiorraS4]

 

 

 

Ooohhhh please please please, that map looks f*cking awesome!

 

 

 

I still believe the cities are going to combine as one big world.. *wink* *cough* Rockstar *wink* *cough *cough*

 

 

 

 

 

So I see the Grand Senora Desert on the lower left and a GIANT BARREN WASTELAND in the lower middle. That's just too damn big and I don't want to have to deliver my crates/guns/drugs all that distance. It would make the "move the Reefer" mission from VCS feel like a 30-second job.

 

But it would be sooooo awesome to just drive around... and all they would have to do is limit missions to the county you start them in! We could have offices or businesses or who knows what all over the map

 

Or delivering (exporting) crates/guns/drugs by planes or something like it...

[Skip The Skippy]

Since they like wacky-looking Supers, why not the Panoz Abruzzi (resembles a beard-trimmer)

Since coupes aren't loved much, how about the Panoz Roadster (I actually saw one of these in traffic once in 2001 and had to go find an internet cafe to look up what the heck it was)

My uncle has a Plymouth Prowler, which has an extremely similar body style to that of the Panoz Roadster you mentioned. Super fun car to drive, have to be careful with the extension's on those front wheel wells though. Edited July 14, 2017 by Skip The Skippy

[Prince_Polaris]

 

 

 

 

Ooohhhh please please please, that map looks f*cking awesome!

 

 

 

I still believe the cities are going to combine as one big world.. *wink* *cough* Rockstar *wink* *cough *cough*

 

 

 

 

 

So I see the Grand Senora Desert on the lower left and a GIANT BARREN WASTELAND in the lower middle. That's just too damn big and I don't want to have to deliver my crates/guns/drugs all that distance. It would make the "move the Reefer" mission from VCS feel like a 30-second job.

 

But it would be sooooo awesome to just drive around... and all they would have to do is limit missions to the county you start them in! We could have offices or businesses or who knows what all over the map

Or delivering (exporting) crates/guns/drugs by planes or something like it...

 

And, with all the water, we would finally have a use for boats! I can call my tugboat and go cruising on the water

[Aaaash]

 

 

Can someone please explain to me how a newer car can be considered a classic based on an older car?

 

From Legendary website the Cheetah is an prototype supercar manufactured in the early 70's.

And the Cheetah classic is a Testarossa from mid 80's.

 

lol

Because almost every car in GTA is an amalgamation of at least 2 different cars.

 

The rear of the Cheetah is based on the Testarossa, but the front is based on an early 70s Ferrari.

 

you dont got what jollythecat said.

 

The "modern" Cheetah that is based off of the Ferrari Enzo FXX says on its website it is a prototyp from the 70s and that makes no sense.

 

You're right. I've never realised the 'modern' Cheetah is supposed to be a 70s car. My mistake. I guess even Rockstar forgot about that.

[Mach1bud]

 

 

 

 

Can someone please explain to me how a newer car can be considered a classic based on an older car?

 

From Legendary website the Cheetah is an prototype supercar manufactured in the early 70's.

And the Cheetah classic is a Testarossa from mid 80's.

 

lol

Because almost every car in GTA is an amalgamation of at least 2 different cars.

 

The rear of the Cheetah is based on the Testarossa, but the front is based on an early 70s Ferrari.

 

you dont got what jollythecat said.

 

The "modern" Cheetah that is based off of the Ferrari Enzo FXX says on its website it is a prototyp from the 70s and that makes no sense.

 

You're right. I've never realised the 'modern' Cheetah is supposed to be a 70s car. My mistake. I guess even Rockstar forgot about that.

 

 

They likely forgot because it doesn't make any sense and it was likely written 5+ years ago. The person who wrote it may not even work there anymore.

 

I think it is very safe to say that it is a modern Supercar, despite what one sentence says in the game.

 

Just my opinion though.

[Tez2]

One of the upcoming adv modes is Power Mad, Power Play style mode like Turf Wars, Vehicle Vendetta, Juggernaut.
Have anyone heard of "Challenge Series" ?
In case you're wondering how it looks like.

Edited July 14, 2017 by Fun 2

[Pedinhuh]

Next Adv mode is Power Mad, Power Play style mode like Turf Wars, Vehicle Vendetta, Juggernaut.

0x5DFC8683 = Your score will increase while holding the Juggernaut Pickup. Taking out enemy players as the Juggernaut will boost your score.

0x386B3BCD = Take out enemy players as the Beast to increase your score. Your score will slowly increase while holding the Beast Pickup.

0x984EFB27 = Players who collect the pickup will be transformed and will increase their team's score.

0x6929B193 = ~a~ ~s~became the Juggernaut

0xB0B40132 = ~a~ ~s~became the Beast

Sticky Bombs, Grenades, Proximity mines would be disabled/removed.

 

 

Have anyone heard of "Challenge Series" ?

In case you're wondering how it looks like.

 

 

This challenge series has me interested, do you have any idea of what it could be like?

(Hopefully nothing to do with adversary modes)

[Rafae]

Probably something similar to premium races.

[Mach1bud]

Im gonna guess it is a playlist of different Adversary Modes. Much like the Bunker Series.

[Gridl0k]

What's next in sequence? I just want an Ardent or a Nightshark

[Rafae]

What's next in sequence? I just want an Ardent or a Nightshark

The Torero

 

[Gridl0k]

Oh well. My classics collection is getting bigger, I suppose.

 

NEED RESEARCH

 

PS I drove this so yeah yellow pls

 

Edited July 14, 2017 by Gridl0k

[muaid]

Do you guys remember early this year when Rockstar mentioned bringing a classic cars, we thought it going to be in a shape of an update, not as a part of an update, The only question is, would there be more ?, in my opinion what we had is enough, as a sport cars.

[Rafae]

PS I drove this so yeah yellow pls

 

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Isn't this a Diablo

Edited July 14, 2017 by RedDagger

[LeakyLine]

yeah that's a diablo not a countach

boooo

[Ray's Occult Books]

I only wish the so called classic sports cars were configured right,

Classic Supercar class,

 

Given the fact these were some of the most powerful and fastest cars in there time.

Next DLC I'm wondering if we would get the Deluxo or Stinger from Vice City.

Edited July 14, 2017 by Ray's Occult Books

[Volganor]

I only wish the so called classic sports cars were configured right,

Classic Supercar class,

 

Given the fact these were some of the most powerful and fastest cars in there time.

Next DLC I'm wondering if we would get the Deluxo or Stinger from Vice City.

Agreed. Those cars should be in a category of their own. Also, as pointed out before, the class sortings are all wrong and should be fixed in the future. Having three muscle cars in the sports category, for example, which are the Buffalo, the Buffalo S and the Drift Tampa makes no sense at all. Blista Compact in sports too. I mean, really?

 

Nice callback, I'd pay good money for a Stinger. It was the car I liked the most in Vice City.

[Mach1bud]

I hope a Bullet Classic is in store for the future. Now that is a car I would like to have.

 

Edited July 14, 2017 by Mach1bud

[Watain]

I only wish the so called classic sports cars were configured right,

Classic Supercar class,

 

Given the fact these were some of the most powerful and fastest cars in there time.

Next DLC I'm wondering if we would get the Deluxo or Stinger from Vice City.

 

The Deluxo was widely requested a while back. I definitely think there's a chance they'll bring that back as well. I sure hope they do.

[Ray's Occult Books]

The Drift Tampa is a piece of junk and yes all those cars should be in the muscle racing class.

The Blista Compact would be the top of the tree in the compact class,

Definitely would be something people would of wanted the clue is it the name.

Maybe a future DLC would bring the

Vice City Stinger here's hoping.

Edited July 14, 2017 by Ray's Occult Books

[Mexicola9302]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ooohhhh please please please, that map looks f*cking awesome!

 

 

 

I still believe the cities are going to combine as one big world.. *wink* *cough* Rockstar *wink* *cough *cough*

 

 

 

 

So I see the Grand Senora Desert on the lower left and a GIANT BARREN WASTELAND in the lower middle. That's just too damn big and I don't want to have to deliver my crates/guns/drugs all that distance. It would make the "move the Reefer" mission from VCS feel like a 30-second job.

But it would be sooooo awesome to just drive around... and all they would have to do is limit missions to the county you start them in! We could have offices or businesses or who knows what all over the map

Or delivering (exporting) crates/guns/drugs by planes or something like it...

And, with all the water, we would finally have a use for boats! I can call my tugboat and go cruising on the water

 

 

 

If we ever get a map expansion i think we have a loadscreen between San Andreas and Liberty City or North Yankton. They can`t just make the map endless big with maximum 30 players in each session. That would mean we have to buy new apartments and garages and all the other stuff. What also means we would need to buy new cars for Liberty City.

 

Anyone remembers the mission from GTA San Andreas where you have to travel to Liberty City? That is how i imagine it will be you fly to the border of the map then get a loadscreen and voila your in Liberty City. All they have to do is copy & paste GTA IV into GTA V and tweak some textures and other stuff that is not up to date i mean it can`t be so much work. It still is the same engine.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockstar_Advanced_Game_Engine

Edited July 14, 2017 by Mach1bud

[please stop me]

Next Adv mode is Power Mad, Power Play style mode like Turf Wars, Vehicle Vendetta, Juggernaut.

Have anyone heard of "Challenge Series" ?

In case you're wondering how it looks like.

 

Any exclusive unlocks for completing this?

[Classique]

 

 

Next Adv mode is Power Mad, Power Play style mode like Turf Wars, Vehicle Vendetta, Juggernaut.

Have anyone heard of "Challenge Series" ?

In case you're wondering how it looks like.

 

 

Any exclusive unlocks for completing this?

Like... The Hunter?

[AUScowboy]

That GT40... GUH! I have seen a few of the second gen/2005 model here in metro Det, and once saw a GT40 and the second gen racing down M39. They blew past me and my buddies and you could feel them in your chest as they flew by. Boner: check, goosebumps: check, Ford pride: double check.

 

I speculate we will see even more classics as the players seem to be really loving them. Type Cheetah classic into Twitter and you'll see what I mean.

 

Edit: Rays Occult is Mrboss? Huh.

Edited July 14, 2017 by AUScowboy

[Prince_Polaris]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ooohhhh please please please, that map looks f*cking awesome!

 

 

 

I still believe the cities are going to combine as one big world.. *wink* *cough* Rockstar *wink* *cough *cough*

 

 

 

 

So I see the Grand Senora Desert on the lower left and a GIANT BARREN WASTELAND in the lower middle. That's just too damn big and I don't want to have to deliver my crates/guns/drugs all that distance. It would make the "move the Reefer" mission from VCS feel like a 30-second job.

But it would be sooooo awesome to just drive around... and all they would have to do is limit missions to the county you start them in! We could have offices or businesses or who knows what all over the map

Or delivering (exporting) crates/guns/drugs by planes or something like it...

And, with all the water, we would finally have a use for boats! I can call my tugboat and go cruising on the water

 

 

 

If we ever get a map expansion i think we have a loadscreen between San Andreas and Liberty City or North Yankton. They can`t just make the map endless big with maximum 30 players in each session. That would mean we have to buy new apartments and garages and all the other stuff. What also means we would need to buy new cars for Liberty City.

 

Anyone remembers the mission from GTA San Andreas where you have to travel to Liberty City? That is how i imagine it will be you fly to the border of the map then get a loadscreen and voila your in Liberty City. All they have to do is copy & paste GTA IV into GTA V and tweak some textures and other stuff that is not up to date i mean it can`t be so much work. It still is the same engine.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockstar_Advanced_Game_Engine

 

Even better, maybe they could tweak it so that the map behind you unloads as the map in front loads... kind of like the map does right now but on a larger scale.

[SHADOW OPS]

That GT40... GUH! I have seen a few of the second gen/2005 model here in metro Det, and once saw a GT40 and the second gen racing down M39. They blew past me and my buddies and you could feel them in your chest as they flew by. Boner: check, goosebumps: check, Ford pride: double check.

 

I speculate we will see even more classics as the players seem to be really loving them. Type Cheetah classic into Twitter and you'll see what I mean.

 

Edit: Rays Occult is Mrboss? Huh.

Mind blown. But it does make sense.

 

Ghostbusters DLC confirmed.

[Tez2]

This challenge series has me interested, do you have any idea of what it could be like?

(Hopefully nothing to do with adversary modes)

It appears to be incomplete.