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If it's not MerryWeather, I wonder what else the militias could be though? I'm not sure they'd just bring in totally new groups. But who knows I guess.

Have they EVER added a completely new group in an update?

 

Since they mentioned militiaS - plural - that means there will HAVE to be player owned ones, since merryweather is the only one in-game currently. Unless they plan on breaking their streak of only using groups that already exist.

 

Securoserv was created as an entirely new group based on pretection services.

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As funmw2 allready correctly pointed out, it would be pretty stupid to put all resources into GTA Online, then there is clearly no need to.

Only thing I could see make it into the game apart from GTA Online Updates, would be the Singleplayer DLC as that is allready 70% done, and would come handy to make use of the christmas period this year.

 

 

Are you suggesting that they might charge for the SP DLC or you think they will just do it because they are really nice people? The reason we haven't seen it thus far is because much less work is going into very profitable online DLC's. They aren't running a 501© charity over there. Just sayn'...

It is allready 70% done, almost a finished product.(according to Yan)

If I had to educately guess, I would say they are holding back with it because the staff who worked on SP DLC, is now focused on Red Dead Redemption 2, and thus cannot finish it.

Also, lets be honest here, SP DLC would sell. It would sell very well actually, given the current amount of demand for it.

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If it's not MerryWeather, I wonder what else the militias could be though? I'm not sure they'd just bring in totally new groups. But who knows I guess.

Have they EVER added a completely new group in an update?

 

Since they mentioned militiaS - plural - that means there will HAVE to be player owned ones, since merryweather is the only one in-game currently. Unless they plan on breaking their streak of only using groups that already exist.

 

Securoserv was created as an entirely new group based on pretection services.

 

I meant enemy groups. Things we are involved with are always new.

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So... it takes months for R* to release some cars and clothes... but people are still holding out hope for a whole new map? Do you know how much work that would involve? Not to mention we're also talking about last gen vs current gen assets, how that data is handled etc.

 

The possibility is extremely low to non-existent there'll be map expansions for GTA V. There's a greater possibility for something like this in RDR2 or GTA VI; but even then the possibility would be low.

 

It's also possible the next DLC will be about Japanese schoolgirls chasing down senpais. You cannot say for sure that is never going to happen, it is a possibility after all.

 

Right up there with winning the lottery and the playboy playmates breaking into your house and demanding you teach them how to love.

Just stop you're being ridiculous and sound like a complete ass.

 

Did you see the info about GtaOnline's fiscal performance on Game Spot from Take 2's CEO?

 

Take 2 Interactive said they hit 80M copies sold and despite being a 3 year old game continuously break projected earnings, here's the exciting part... that players should expect to receive much more content for GtaOnline!

 

So, that says to me the budgeting is there for a map expansion if they and a Rockstar are making so much bank off the title and although it's a tall ask it's a doable one.

 

I think you do not understand GTA Onlines position in R*s portfolio.

 

It is not a game like World Of Warcraft but rather a bridge to Rockstar Games next big game.

Back then Rockstar Games had the problem that between the times their GTA games were developed, they couldn't hold revenue, refer to GTA IV and EFLC. Thus investors were not as satisfied as Rockstar/Take Two had no continues Revenue stream.

But now Rockstar Games came up with GTA Online, they have a continued revenue stream to bridge the gap between their big releases. The point being that they use few resources for GTA Onlines support(about a quarter of Rockstar Norths team at the moment) and focus all their other resources onto future projects, such as Red Dead Redemption 2, Bully 2 and the next GTA game.

This also allows them to take as much time as they need with their title releases, the last Red dead Redemption was released during development hell and according to developers it was still kind of unfinished, but they had to release it eventually as they needed the revenue. Now they can delay their flagship title for another 6 months and investors will not bother as GTA Online is still available.

 

As funmw2 allready correctly pointed out, it would be pretty stupid to put all resources into GTA Online, then there is clearly no need to.

Only thing I could see make it into the game apart from GTA Online Updates, would be the Singleplayer DLC as that is allready 70% done, and would come handy to make use of the christmas period this year.

 

Rockstar fa**ot said bully 2 not happeninghttps://boards.fireden.net/_/search/username/rockstar%20fa**ot/

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As funmw2 already correctly pointed out, it would be pretty stupid to put all resources into GTA Online, then there is clearly no need to.

 

Not all resources, no--but what R*/Take Two has failed to do is to at least adequately scale and reinvest resources with the game that is providing their largest single boost in revenue.

 

Granted, they don't care, since the money is rolling in... but most players understand how much better the game could be (generating even more revenue than it is now). Which isn't happening.

 

IMO that was the vision of "The Benz": excellent gaming returns excellent revenue. Not the other way around.

 

If I were R*, I'd be a bit nervous knowing the guy who understands that concept very well is creating their new competition. He (and his team) are, after all, the reason why they are still as successful as they are today, more than three years later. No disrespect intended, but the basics of the game were his idea--not the current leadership of R*.

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So... it takes months for R* to release some cars and clothes... but people are still holding out hope for a whole new map? Do you know how much work that would involve? Not to mention we're also talking about last gen vs current gen assets, how that data is handled etc.

 

The possibility is extremely low to non-existent there'll be map expansions for GTA V. There's a greater possibility for something like this in RDR2 or GTA VI; but even then the possibility would be low.

 

It's also possible the next DLC will be about Japanese schoolgirls chasing down senpais. You cannot say for sure that is never going to happen, it is a possibility after all.

 

Right up there with winning the lottery and the playboy playmates breaking into your house and demanding you teach them how to love.

Just stop you're being ridiculous and sound like a complete ass.

 

Did you see the info about GtaOnline's fiscal performance on Game Spot from Take 2's CEO?

 

Take 2 Interactive said they hit 80M copies sold and despite being a 3 year old game continuously break projected earnings, here's the exciting part... that players should expect to receive much more content for GtaOnline!

 

So, that says to me the budgeting is there for a map expansion if they and a Rockstar are making so much bank off the title and although it's a tall ask it's a doable one.

 

I think you do not understand GTA Onlines position in R*s portfolio.

 

It is not a game like World Of Warcraft but rather a bridge to Rockstar Games next big game.

Back then Rockstar Games had the problem that between the times their GTA games were developed, they couldn't hold revenue, refer to GTA IV and EFLC. Thus investors were not as satisfied as Rockstar/Take Two had no continues Revenue stream.

But now Rockstar Games came up with GTA Online, they have a continued revenue stream to bridge the gap between their big releases. The point being that they use few resources for GTA Onlines support(about a quarter of Rockstar Norths team at the moment) and focus all their other resources onto future projects, such as Red Dead Redemption 2, Bully 2 and the next GTA game.

This also allows them to take as much time as they need with their title releases, the last Red dead Redemption was released during development hell and according to developers it was still kind of unfinished, but they had to release it eventually as they needed the revenue. Now they can delay their flagship title for another 6 months and investors will not bother as GTA Online is still available.

 

As funmw2 allready correctly pointed out, it would be pretty stupid to put all resources into GTA Online, then there is clearly no need to.

Only thing I could see make it into the game apart from GTA Online Updates, would be the Singleplayer DLC as that is allready 70% done, and would come handy to make use of the christmas period this year.

 

Rockstar fa**ot said bully 2 not happening[/size]

 

 

https://boards.fireden.net/_/search/username/rockstar%20fa**ot/ [/size]

That doesn't have anything to do with my point really, but I am pretty sure he was reffering to the female lead on the picture.

Yan allready posted a few weeks ago that Rockstar Norths other project is Bully 2

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Securoserv is just part of "the black net". Not really a paramilitary organization at all. It's like dynasty8 executive but illegal.

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Rockstar is as concerned with a start up franchise as an Eagle fighting a worm.

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As funmw2 already correctly pointed out, it would be pretty stupid to put all resources into GTA Online, then there is clearly no need to.

 

Not all resources, no--but what R*/Take Two has failed to do is at least scale resources with the game that is providing their largest single boost in revenue.

 

Granted, they don't care, since the money is rolling in... but most players understand how much better the game could be (generating even more revenue). And that's not happening.

 

IMO that was the vision of "The Benz": excellent gaming drives excellent revenue. Not the other way around.

 

If I were R*, I'd be a bit nervous knowing the guy who understands that concept is creating your new competitor.

 

According to his own sue, the entire roadmap of GTA Online was created by "The Benz" himself.

 

So the GTA Online you are playing right now, is exactly, his vision.(Except Gunrunning actually, that is when they run out of pre produced content, so the next DLC is going to be a 100% without the Benz's influence)

I am quite sure you are reffering to the bugs in the game at the moment and are trying to find some kind of scapegoat for it, but there is really none.

It is just that it makes more sense to struck a balance between adding new content and fixing bugs, instead of just fixing bugs.

Also new content added will inevitable add to new bugs being created.

Lastly, "the benz" was responsible for GTA Online up until 2014(that was when he and his staff got ousted), he was implementing his vision up until that point and I do not recall GTA Online working substantially better back then.(quite the opposite actually).

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As funmw2 allready correctly pointed out, it would be pretty stupid to put all resources into GTA Online, then there is clearly no need to.

Only thing I could see make it into the game apart from GTA Online Updates, would be the Singleplayer DLC as that is allready 70% done, and would come handy to make use of the christmas period this year.

 

 

Are you suggesting that they might charge for the SP DLC or you think they will just do it because they are really nice people? The reason we haven't seen it thus far is because much less work is going into very profitable online DLC's. They aren't running a 501© charity over there. Just sayn'...

It is allready 70% done, almost a finished product.(according to Yan)

If I had to educately guess, I would say they are holding back with it because the staff who worked on SP DLC, is now focused on Red Dead Redemption 2, and thus cannot finish it.

Also, lets be honest here, SP DLC would sell. It would sell very well actually, given the current amount of demand for it.

 

 

I am not saying they will never release one, but I think the odds are against it. Even at 70% done, it still might be the case that it is more lucrative and less work to have the staff do an online DLC. But, my point was , if they do release it, people expecting to get it for free are about to be disappointed. That makes zero sense to me from a business perspective.

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I am not saying they will never release one, but I think the odds are against it. Even at 70% done, it still might be the case that it is more lucrative and less work to have the staff do an online DLC. But, my point was , if they do release it, people expecting to get it for free are about to be disappointed. That makes zero sense to me from a business perspective.

Most certainly not for free, unless its content is somehow cut and churned into an Online concept.

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When did they use danger zone ?

In the Humane Labs setup "EMP"

 

 

Ah I thought they used it in the Hists trailer but yeah no

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Securoserv is just part of "the black net". Not really a paramilitary organization at all. It's like dynasty8 executive but illegal.

Don't think I've noticed SecuroServ in Story Mode.

Maybe they prefer to work with CEOs and not a Bank Robber, a Psychopath and a Gangster.

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According to his own sue, the entire roadmap of GTA Online was created by "The Benz" himself.

 

So the GTA Online you are playing right now, is exactly, his vision.

I am quite sure you are reffering to the bugs in the game at the moment and are trying to find some kind of scapegoat for it, but there is really none.

It is just that it makes more sense to struck a balance between adding new content and fixing bugs, instead of just fixing bugs.

Also new content added will inevitable add to new bugs being created.

Lastly, "the benz" was responsible for GTA Online up until 2014(that was when he and his staff got ousted), he was implementing his vision up until that point and I do not recall GTA Online working substantially better back then.(quite the opposite actually).

 

True--IM (semi-ignorant) O his (and his team's?) biggest mistake was choosing P2P; bugs are inevitable--but adequate QA is not (again, resource issue)--and any first-time project on the scale of GTA Online is bound to have some design issues. But his vision of what gaming should be is what differs drastically from current R* leadership.

 

I still admire devs at R* who can track down some incredibly wild and elusive bugs, but at some point (no matter who owns the design) a rewrite is going to be inevitable just because of how code works. Been told that too many times from some very well-respected programmers (Olaf Barthel being one of them).

 

Anywho; sorry for being off-topic. Here's to whatever we get when Gunrunning releases...

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Remember when Yan Sid updates were slowing down? Now there going to make a lot more. There not going to let there cash cow die off without a fight. lol even when red dead comes out after it gets delayed again, there still going to do updates. And wouldn't rockstar be going against there promise of online updates being free if they charged $ for a map expansion?

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And wouldn't rockstar be going against there promise of online updates being free if they charged $ for a map expansion?

Not if it was added in a SP update and then just included with online.

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And wouldn't rockstar be going against there promise of online updates being free if they charged $ for a map expansion?

Not if it was added in a SP update and then just included with online.

 

This, unlike updates which mostly tend to be "smaller" additions to the game a map expansion would be a rather big project which would require a good amount of work and R* wouldn't be able to make money with sharkcards on it directly.

What about that song in east ls fm el sonidito that song is dope bip bip bip bip bip bip hahaha

 

But my guess is they're going to use CCR fortunate son either that or Loggins's danger zone

Everything but that ear cancer.

 

But yeah Fortunate Son would be very fitting.

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I've got an idea what we could specualte on. It's totally unimportant but It's interesting nevertheless.

The trailer for gunrunning is definetly coming before or with the update. So i ask what song/music will be playing in the trailer. We know rockstar uses only the songs they have in the readios so that's something to go by.

dont think we would get a prerelease trailer but i have said for months, Danger Zone fits the theme of the update.

 

 

If i had to choose a song for the trailer, i'd use this:

 

*push it to the limit*

its a good song for updates like this, would have been a perfect fit for the ceo updates but its not ingame so, they wont use it.

 

 

And wouldn't rockstar be going against there promise of online updates being free if they charged $ for a map expansion?

a paid dlc like map extension would fracture the playerbase and they dont want that.

 

its either free or simply not happening.

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You two have the same last name.

Well it's been a pleasure meeting you both. As for Red Dildo welcome to the forums, I hope you fit right in with everyone here.

 

 

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When did they use danger zone ?

 

In the Humane Labs setup "EMP"

 

Ah I thought they used it in the Hists trailer but yeah no

Nope, in the heist trailer they used the heist ingame soundtrack :p

 

Best ingame soundtrack ever imo.

That being said...i really think danger zone in that way does not really counts as "being used".

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I wonder why R* for the past two days have uploaded blank tunables for the PC

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There is a short trailer for Heists with Danger Zone, so my vote is for Hysteria.

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I wonder why R* for the past two days have uploaded blank tunables for the PC

Not blank but hidden to stop fun snooping around them haha

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So... it takes months for R* to release some cars and clothes... but people are still holding out hope for a whole new map? Do you know how much work that would involve? Not to mention we're also talking about last gen vs current gen assets, how that data is handled etc.

 

The possibility is extremely low to non-existent there'll be map expansions for GTA V. There's a greater possibility for something like this in RDR2 or GTA VI; but even then the possibility would be low.

 

It's also possible the next DLC will be about Japanese schoolgirls chasing down senpais. You cannot say for sure that is never going to happen, it is a possibility after all.

 

Right up there with winning the lottery and the playboy playmates breaking into your house and demanding you teach them how to love.

Just stop you're being ridiculous and sound like a complete ass.

 

Did you see the info about GtaOnline's fiscal performance on Game Spot from Take 2's CEO?

 

Take 2 Interactive said they hit 80M copies sold and despite being a 3 year old game continuously break projected earnings, here's the exciting part... that players should expect to receive much more content for GtaOnline!

 

So, that says to me the budgeting is there for a map expansion if they and a Rockstar are making so much bank off the title and although it's a tall ask it's a doable one.

 

I think you do not understand GTA Onlines position in R*s portfolio.

 

It is not a game like World Of Warcraft but rather a bridge to Rockstar Games next big game.

Back then Rockstar Games had the problem that between the times their GTA games were developed, they couldn't hold revenue, refer to GTA IV and EFLC. Thus investors were not as satisfied as Rockstar/Take Two had no continues Revenue stream.

But now Rockstar Games came up with GTA Online, they have a continued revenue stream to bridge the gap between their big releases. The point being that they use few resources for GTA Onlines support(about a quarter of Rockstar Norths team at the moment) and focus all their other resources onto future projects, such as Red Dead Redemption 2, Bully 2 and the next GTA game.

This also allows them to take as much time as they need with their title releases, the last Red dead Redemption was released during development hell and according to developers it was still kind of unfinished, but they had to release it eventually as they needed the revenue. Now they can delay their flagship title for another 6 months and investors will not bother as GTA Online is still available.

 

As funmw2 allready correctly pointed out, it would be pretty stupid to put all resources into GTA Online, then there is clearly no need to.

Only thing I could see make it into the game apart from GTA Online Updates, would be the Singleplayer DLC as that is allready 70% done, and would come handy to make use of the christmas period this year.

 

take 2 was in debt for most of the time meanwhile rockstar games profits were high all the time, so even if rockstar starts to develop another gta online world 2k would be happy to allow them to breath life into their rage engine. i see rdr2 as the future of what is possible in gta 6, i dont mean there will be horses but that the graphics will resemble the ones in rdr2 or a fully modified gta v with like enb series mods running at 4k 60 fps... which is mostly what people will be buying gta 6 for.. the graphics will be so amazing that you will think that you're actually in the matrix or something like that. character models would really resemble victoria 7 ones which is actually pretty amazing if youve seen that stuff before

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So... it takes months for R* to release some cars and clothes... but people are still holding out hope for a whole new map? Do you know how much work that would involve? Not to mention we're also talking about last gen vs current gen assets, how that data is handled etc.

 

The possibility is extremely low to non-existent there'll be map expansions for GTA V. There's a greater possibility for something like this in RDR2 or GTA VI; but even then the possibility would be low.

 

It's also possible the next DLC will be about Japanese schoolgirls chasing down senpais. You cannot say for sure that is never going to happen, it is a possibility after all.

 

Right up there with winning the lottery and the playboy playmates breaking into your house and demanding you teach them how to love.

Just stop you're being ridiculous and sound like a complete ass.

 

Did you see the info about GtaOnline's fiscal performance on Game Spot from Take 2's CEO?

 

Take 2 Interactive said they hit 80M copies sold and despite being a 3 year old game continuously break projected earnings, here's the exciting part... that players should expect to receive much more content for GtaOnline!

 

So, that says to me the budgeting is there for a map expansion if they and a Rockstar are making so much bank off the title and although it's a tall ask it's a doable one.

 

I think you do not understand GTA Onlines position in R*s portfolio.

 

It is not a game like World Of Warcraft but rather a bridge to Rockstar Games next big game.

Back then Rockstar Games had the problem that between the times their GTA games were developed, they couldn't hold revenue, refer to GTA IV and EFLC. Thus investors were not as satisfied as Rockstar/Take Two had no continues Revenue stream.

But now Rockstar Games came up with GTA Online, they have a continued revenue stream to bridge the gap between their big releases. The point being that they use few resources for GTA Onlines support(about a quarter of Rockstar Norths team at the moment) and focus all their other resources onto future projects, such as Red Dead Redemption 2, Bully 2 and the next GTA game.

This also allows them to take as much time as they need with their title releases, the last Red dead Redemption was released during development hell and according to developers it was still kind of unfinished, but they had to release it eventually as they needed the revenue. Now they can delay their flagship title for another 6 months and investors will not bother as GTA Online is still available.

 

As funmw2 allready correctly pointed out, it would be pretty stupid to put all resources into GTA Online, then there is clearly no need to.

Only thing I could see make it into the game apart from GTA Online Updates, would be the Singleplayer DLC as that is allready 70% done, and would come handy to make use of the christmas period this year.

 

take 2 was in debt for most of the time meanwhile rockstar games profits were high all the time, so even if rockstar starts to develop another gta online world 2k would be happy to allow them to breath life into their rage engine. i see rdr2 as the future of what is possible in gta 6, i dont mean there will be horses but that the graphics will resemble the ones in rdr2 or a fully modified gta v with like enb series mods running at 4k 60 fps... which is mostly what people will be buying gta 6 for.. the graphics will be so amazing that you will think that you're actually in the matrix or something like that. character models would really resemble victoria 7 ones which is actually pretty amazing if youve seen that stuff before

 

i wouldn't say that the biggest reason people will buy gta 6 for is because "them graphics though".

 

gta 6 will sell itself regardless if the graphics are insane or just like the ones in gta v.

 

gta will always sell like hotcakes,it doesn't need a game to showcase what will/can be next.

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So... it takes months for R* to release some cars and clothes... but people are still holding out hope for a whole new map? Do you know how much work that would involve? Not to mention we're also talking about last gen vs current gen assets, how that data is handled etc.

 

The possibility is extremely low to non-existent there'll be map expansions for GTA V. There's a greater possibility for something like this in RDR2 or GTA VI; but even then the possibility would be low.

 

It's also possible the next DLC will be about Japanese schoolgirls chasing down senpais. You cannot say for sure that is never going to happen, it is a possibility after all.

 

Right up there with winning the lottery and the playboy playmates breaking into your house and demanding you teach them how to love.

 

Just stop you're being ridiculous and sound like a complete ass.

Did you see the info about GtaOnline's fiscal performance on Game Spot from Take 2's CEO?

Take 2 Interactive said they hit 80M copies sold and despite being a 3 year old game continuously break projected earnings, here's the exciting part... that players should expect to receive much more content for GtaOnline!

So, that says to me the budgeting is there for a map expansion if they and a Rockstar are making so much bank off the title and although it's a tall ask it's a doable one.

 

I think you do not understand GTA Onlines position in R*s portfolio.

 

It is not a game like World Of Warcraft but rather a bridge to Rockstar Games next big game.

Back then Rockstar Games had the problem that between the times their GTA games were developed, they couldn't hold revenue, refer to GTA IV and EFLC. Thus investors were not as satisfied as Rockstar/Take Two had no continues Revenue stream.

But now Rockstar Games came up with GTA Online, they have a continued revenue stream to bridge the gap between their big releases. The point being that they use few resources for GTA Onlines support(about a quarter of Rockstar Norths team at the moment) and focus all their other resources onto future projects, such as Red Dead Redemption 2, Bully 2 and the next GTA game.

This also allows them to take as much time as they need with their title releases, the last Red dead Redemption was released during development hell and according to developers it was still kind of unfinished, but they had to release it eventually as they needed the revenue. Now they can delay their flagship title for another 6 months and investors will not bother as GTA Online is still available.

 

As funmw2 allready correctly pointed out, it would be pretty stupid to put all resources into GTA Online, then there is clearly no need to.

Only thing I could see make it into the game apart from GTA Online Updates, would be the Singleplayer DLC as that is allready 70% done, and would come handy to make use of the christmas period this year.

 

take 2 was in debt for most of the time meanwhile rockstar games profits were high all the time, so even if rockstar starts to develop another gta online world 2k would be happy to allow them to breath life into their rage engine. i see rdr2 as the future of what is possible in gta 6, i dont mean there will be horses but that the graphics will resemble the ones in rdr2 or a fully modified gta v with like enb series mods running at 4k 60 fps... which is mostly what people will be buying gta 6 for.. the graphics will be so amazing that you will think that you're actually in the matrix or something like that. character models would really resemble victoria 7 ones which is actually pretty amazing if youve seen that stuff before

Yeah mate that's not how it works, people don't buy gta for the grapich. This is not some sh*t, hastily developed shooter or racing game Edited by Rented

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And wouldn't rockstar be going against there promise of online updates being free if they charged $ for a map expansion?

Not really, SP DLC would be identical to "Episodes from Liberty City".

Featuring two episodes, you load up GTA V and it would ask you which episode to load or you can load the original story.

It won't add anything to GTA Online, each episode would feature a story from the perspective of a specific character.

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To all those holding out for a map expansion.. Would you not agree that R* ought to utilize the full potential of the current map first?

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The things that stood out to me were the 921 mill take 2 made from microtransactions last year, the 5 million additional units sold in 3 months of gta5, how strauss mentioned gta5 seperately from gta online, and how he said rdr2 dev will have no impact on other r* projects. Im looking for a map expansion. They could take some of the hundreds of millions made from sharks and invest it into finishing lc. Especially if a group of modders have nearly added it already without having hundreds of millions. They could literally reinvest 10% of the shark money and make an entire new map. Gta 5 cost 260mill to produce, and they would have 35% of the total budget just to polish LC and maybe even NY. They could easily make it free for ppl or charge 10-20 and make a killing. 80 million units sold. At least 50% of them would gladly pay $10 for a map expansion. Thats 400mill in revenue on a 100mill investment. Not even counting the additional shark card sales. Ppl who havent played in a while would return in droves. Its a win win for r*. If they made the map dlc free it would really bring ppl back and the microtransactions would set a new record. Make it happen :r*:

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