Next DLC Speculation Thread (Part 3)

[Commander S]

 

-snip-

How many time we went though this?

 

 

3D Era ≠ HD Era

 

Why complicate things with Jesters?

Let's have as a separate vehicle, how hard is that?

 

...except that's the point - they're talking about bringing back classic cars from past GTAs.

 

They've already mentioned the Infernus - it's clearly got to be some kind of 3D-era Infernus, otherwise it'd be redundant, since the GTA IV version is the GTA V version.

 

With that being the case, at least some of these cars are going to be basically the 3D-era cars in GTAO (and besides, R* didn't make a big deal about cars being from past GTAs when adding in cars from IV, like the Faction/Moonbeam/Virgo Classic/Tampa).

 

So, with that said, if R* announces 'cars including the Infernus Classic, Turismo Classic, Jester Classic, Cheetah Classic, Deluxo', etc., then it's a pretty safe bet that the 'Jester Classic' will be a Supra-ish thing based on the San Andreas version, because ...there's only ever been one other Jester in a past GTA game.

[Mach1bud]

 

 

-snip-

How many time we went though this?

 

 

3D Era ≠ HD Era

 

Why complicate things with Jesters?

Let's have as a separate vehicle, how hard is that?

...except that's the point - they're talking about bringing back classic cars from past GTAs.

 

They've already mentioned the Infernus - it's clearly got to be some kind of 3D-era Infernus, otherwise it'd be redundant, since the GTA IV version is the GTA V version.

 

With that being the case, at least some of these cars are going to be basically the 3D-era cars in GTAO (and besides, R* didn't make a big deal about cars being from past GTAs when adding in cars from IV, like the Faction/Moonbeam/Virgo Classic/Tampa).

 

So, with that said, if R* announces 'cars including the Infernus Classic, Turismo Classic, Jester Classic, Cheetah Classic, Deluxo', etc., then it's a pretty safe bet that the 'Jester Classic' will be a Supra-ish thing based on the San Andreas version, because ...there's only ever been one other Jester in a past GTA game.

Some people just can't grasp that they could add a Jester that is a Supra.

 

f*ck all that "era" crap. Its about nostalgia. A Jester that is a Supra is nostalgic and would be very popular. It doesn't matter if it "makes sense".

Edited March 4, 2017 by Mach1bud

[Sky_Light12]

SPECULATION TIME!

This is how I think that updates could look like.

>INB4 someone interprets it as a "leak"

 

Special Vehicles Stunt Course:

• Worst (and the most possible) case scenario:

  No cars, no weapons, no nothing. Just a small update that adds some props to the creator. 30 sec trailer (just like they did with LCC and Cunning Stunts Creator).

• Better case scenario: 2-3 cars, possibly GP1. That's it.
• The best case scenario: "Classic" are included.
• Release date: 7th or 14th

"Classic" DLC:

Cars:

 

• Grotti Turismo Classic (F40): $1750000
• Pegassi Infernus (Countach with some clues from the Diablo and the rear from the De Tomaso Panthera): $1750000
• Progen GP1 (if not included in SVSC): $1550000
• Grotti Cheetah Classic (Testarossa with heavy influence from the 288): $1575000
• DeClasse Deluxo (DeLorean with tiny bit of influence from the Alpine GTA LeMans): $990000
• Dundreary Hermes (Hopefully pixel perfect rendition of the one from 3D Era - '50 Mercury Eight): $580000 (extra $185000 for Bennyfication)
• Coquette Retro Custom (Coquette from IV): $350000 for Bennyfication
• Vapid Dominator Classic/Hellenbach GT (mix between '69 Mustang and Mach1. Possible some Eleanor influence): $1000000
• Albany Esperanto (the one from IV): $150000 (extra $250000 for Bennyfication)
• Dinka Jester Classic/Retro(NSX!): $850000 (or $350000 for Bennyfication)
• Karin Saikou/Bravura/Snipe (Supra): $500000 ($650000 for Bennyfication)
• Albany Buccaneer (the one from IV): $200000 ($450000 for Bennyfication)
• Willard Willard/500: $150000 ($350000 for Bennyfication)
• Vapid Uranus: $650000
• Übermacht Sentinel Retro: $750000 for Bennyfication of the regular Sentinel
• Pfister Comet Classic (just the Retro without bodykit): $990000
• DeClasse Sabre: $350000 ($150000 for Bennyfication)
• BF Furzen (Beetle):$350000
• Albany Mañana Custom: $350000
• Vapid Peyote Custom: $450000
• Albany Emperor Custom: $300000
• Cheval Picador Custom: $255000

Weapons:

 

• Pistol .44 (Auto MAG)
• SNS Revolver

Gunrunning DLC:

Vehicles:

 

• Mammoth Squaddie: Unlocked after 5 weapon deliveries, $750000
• HVY EOD (Brickade from TBOGT): unlocked after 10 weapon deliveries, $1500000. Slow but ultra resisted to the bullets and explosions
• Hovercraft: unlocked after 20 Weapon deliveries, $2500000
• Buckingham Rustler (Spitfire and Mustang): unlocked after 25 weapon deliveries: $2000000
• MTL Pacifier (SAM with Wastelander's body): Unlocked after 40 deliveries
• HVY APC: unlocked after 50 deliveries $1800000
• Mammoth Hunter: unlocked after 75 deliveries, $3500000

Weapons:

 

• Laser Sights: unlocked after 1 delivery
• Weapon Camo Pack: unlocked after 2 deliveries
• Automatic .9mm (CZ 75 Automatic): unlocked after 3 deliveries
• Flashbang: unlocked after 4 deliveries
• Vintage SMG (STEN with wooden stock): unlocked after 5 deliveries
• Heavy Rifle (SCAR): unlocked after 10 deliveries
• Assault MG (HK21): unlocked after 15 deliveries
• Automatic Shotgun (AA-12): unlocked after 25 deliveries
• Programmable A.R. (XM25):unlocked after 30 deliveries
• Advanced Sniper (DSR-1): unlocked after 50 deliveries

 

you forgot the military patriot

[Nyamber]

 

[snip]

 

you forgot the military patriot

 

Isn't that the Squaddie?

Edited March 4, 2017 by The-Irish-Hunter

[SHADOW OPS]

I would pay 5 million for this...

 

 

And 2 million for this...

 

[Mach1bud]

Ugh Humvees.

[DeucesR]

I would pay 5 million for this...

 

 

And 2 million for this...

 

OH god yes.

[No Homing]

If they do add an APC/IFV they should make the cannon like the Valkyrie's cannon.

That feels like the best way to do it to me and also most similar to Battlefield.

[MGgames100]

...except that's the point - they're talking about bringing back classic cars from past GTAs.

 

And where are they talking about them having SAME NAMES AS ORIGINAL CARS FROM 3D ERA?

They've already mentioned the Infernus - it's clearly got to be some kind of 3D-era Infernus, otherwise it'd be redundant, since the GTA IV version is the GTA V version.

And you precisely answered why Jester should be NSX. We had 3 Infernuses in 3D era. Jag-Based one, Countach and NSX one.

We have Jag-Based covered (Penetrator), Infernus Classic is most likely Countach, so what about NSX, that a lot of people liked?

"Gee, we have modern NSX in V, how about we make "Jester Classic" and let's make it Supra, f*ck those people who wanted old NSX!"

By making Supra separate vehicle, they could please both groups of people.

It's no brainer.

Why do you care so much if Supra is called Jester?

Nostalgia?

If yes, why you aren't upset that they changed Penetrator from Porsche 911 in GTA 2 to XJ220 (this is also question @Mach)? Or FuroreGT? Or any other car from GTA II or I? "f*ck Eras" So what, only SA exists then?

 

"Umm...s-so why are you so passionate about Supra being separate vehicle, h-huh?"

BECAUSE I WANT BOTH NSX AND SUPRA, I WANT TO AVOID CONFUSION, 3D ERA ≠ HD ERA, SUPRA DOESN'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING WITH NSX IRL!

Edited March 4, 2017 by MGgames100

[Sky_Light12]

 

 

[snip]

 

you forgot the military patriot

 

Isn't that the Squaddie?

 

hmm....idk but the cut ATV has chassis of patriot though

[MGgames100]

 

 

 

[snip]

 

you forgot the military patriot

 

Isn't that the Squaddie?

 

hmm....idk but the cut ATV has chassis of patriot thoughSquaddie IS that cut ATV. It was it's beta name. Edited March 4, 2017 by MGgames100

[nm69]

SPECULATION TIME!

Good Job. I hope MrCancerFTW and those 10 other speculation YT channels pay you for content writing.

Edited March 4, 2017 by nm69

[MGgames100]

 

SPECULATION TIME!

Good Job. I hope MrCancerFTW and those 10 other speculation YT channels pay you for content writing. What? I despise them. I do this for myself - for fun.

[SHADOW OPS]

 

 

SPECULATION TIME!

Good Job. I hope MrCancerFTW and those 10 other speculation YT channels pay you for content writing.

What? I despise them. I do this for myself - for fun.

 

 

If they take your idea sue them for...something...emotional distress.

[Commander S]

Lol. I don't 'care so much' - I'm just pointing out the obvious: if R* makes a bunch of homages to old GTA cars, and one of them is the 'Jester', presumably based on the San Andreas Jester, then ...what car is it going to be?

Or, to put it another way, if R* is taking the GTA cars as their starting point, not the real-life ones, then it's not about 'how best to get the NSX into the game', or whatever car - at least, not with this particular update.

Same with, say, the Kuruma, or the Stinger - if R* added GTA III-inspired versions, they wouldn't be a Mitsubishi or a Ferrari, because the GTA III cars were based on other things, regardless of what the current cars are. Or again, the Infernus - the Vice City version would be a logical (and popular!) choice, because it'd make real-world sense to have it be an older, similar Pegassi/Lamborghini. But if R* decides that the GTA San Andreas is somehow the one to go for, then we could well wind up with a 'Dinka Infernus Classic' based on the NSX, regardless of whether or not that's the best use of the name, or the best way to implement that particular real-world car into GTAO.


Tl;dr: I get that you're arguing what you reckon (and logically!) what it should be - but all I'm saying is what it very well could be, simply based on the recent Newswire description.

[Mach1bud]

 

Why do you care so much if Supra is called Jester?

Nostalgia?

If yes, why you aren't upset that they changed Penetrator from Porsche 911 in GTA 2 to XJ220 (this is also question @Mach)? Or FuroreGT? Or any other car from GTA II or I? "f*ck Eras" So what, only SA exists then?

 

"Umm...s-so why are you so passionate about Supra being separate vehicle, h-huh?"

BECAUSE I WANT BOTH NSX AND SUPRA, I WANT TO AVOID CONFUSION, 3D ERA ≠ HD ERA, SUPRA DOESN'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING WITH NSX IRL!

 

 

Nobody cares about the first games or the cars that were in them. The polls on these forums prove that. People care about III, VC, and SA. Those are the games that made Rockstar who they are. Those are the games that people remember. Those are the cars people want to return. Yes, f*ck the era thing. This has nothing to do with that.

 

I have highlighted your issue. This is not real life. These are not real cars. These are not real manufacturers. They are made up, pretend, parodies. Being true to the past and making an authentic nostalgia inducing car is way, way more important than any real life parody accuracy. We all want both an NSX and a Supra as well. The only person that is confusing things is you.

 

Dinka Jester Classic = Supra

Anyothernametheywant = NSX

 

I would wager a large sum that if they ever add a Supra, it will be a Dinka Jester Classic/Retro.

 

But hey, we both got our opinions. In the end I hope everyone gets the car they want regardless of the name. Nothing we can do but wait it out.

Edited March 4, 2017 by Mach1bud

[SHADOW OPS]

 

 

Why do you care so much if Supra is called Jester?

Nostalgia?

If yes, why you aren't upset that they changed Penetrator from Porsche 911 in GTA 2 to XJ220 (this is also question @Mach)? Or FuroreGT? Or any other car from GTA II or I? "f*ck Eras" So what, only SA exists then?

 

"Umm...s-so why are you so passionate about Supra being separate vehicle, h-huh?"

BECAUSE I WANT BOTH NSX AND SUPRA, I WANT TO AVOID CONFUSION, 3D ERA ≠ HD ERA, SUPRA DOESN'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING WITH NSX IRL!

 

 

Nobody cares about the first games or the cars that were in them. The polls on these forums prove that. People care about III, VC, and SA. Those are the games that made Rockstar who they are. Those are the games that people remember. Those are the cars people want to return. Yes, f*ck the era thing. This has nothing to do with that.

 

I have highlighted your issue. This is not real life. These are not real cars. These are not real manufacturers. They are made up, pretend, parodies. Being true to the past and making an authentic nostalgia inducing car is way, way more important than any real life parody accuracy. We all want both an NSX and a Supra as well. The only person that is confusing things is you.

 

Dinka Jester Classic = Supra

Anyothernametheywant = NSX

 

I would wager a large sum that if they ever add a Supra, it will be a Dinka Jester Classic/Retro.

 

 

Mach gets it. I am not a car guy like him so not sure if he agrees with this. I love my Insurgent/shotaro/ruiner. But they are just pixels.

 

I would drive the doodoo sh*tbutter if it was fast and had good handling.

[JesusFR33K]

Lol. I don't 'care so much' - I'm just pointing out the obvious: if R* makes a bunch of homages to old GTA cars, and one of them is the 'Jester', presumably based on the San Andreas Jester, then ...what car is it going to be?

 

Or, to put it another way, if R* is taking the GTA cars as their starting point, not the real-life ones, then it's not about 'how best to get the NSX into the game', or whatever car - at least, not with this particular update.

 

Same with, say, the Kuruma, or the Stinger - if R* added GTA III-inspired versions, they wouldn't be a Mitsubishi or a Ferrari, because the GTA III cars were based on other things, regardless of what the current cars are. Or again, the Infernus - the Vice City version would be a logical (and popular!) choice, because it'd make real-world sense to have it be an older, similar Pegassi/Lamborghini. But if R* decides that the GTA San Andreas is somehow the one to go for, then we could well wind up with a 'Dinka Infernus Classic' based on the NSX, regardless of whether or not that's the best use of the name, or the best way to implement that particular real-world car into GTAO.

 

 

Tl;dr: I get that you're arguing what you reckon (and logically!) what it should be - but all I'm saying is what it very well could be, simply based on the recent Newswire description.

After they made the virgo and virgo classic different brands, anythings possible. Plus 2 totally different ballers with the same name. Only a handful of r* devs seem to be car ppl. Jester Classic could easily be a Karin Jester Classic, instead of a Dinka. Technically the 3d era doesn't even exist in hd era, so all ties are broken. It boils down to which models are gonna be the most popular.

[Commander S]

That's my thought about the Infernus: which version is going to 'win', and make it into GTAO? Same with the Turismo, for that matter.

(tempted to make a specific thread with a poll, just to see which incarnations are the most popular - and then see how far off-base we are when R* throws everyone a curve... )

Edited March 4, 2017 by Commander S

[MGgames100]

I have highlighted your issue. This is not real life. These are not real cars. These are not real manufacturers. They are made up, pretend,

parodies.

And I highlighted yours.

 

A parody is a work created to imitate, make fun of, or comment on an [size=5]original work[/size]

To make parody, you need to base it on something from RL!

We have Dinka which is parody of Honda and we have parody of Toyota - Karin. So since we have two manufacturers that have corresponding equivalent IRL, WHY THE F*CK MISMACH THEM?

Dinka Jester Classic = Supra

Anyothernametheywant = NSX

 

That's. Just. Retarded.

We have an NSX already! What you don't get?

"B-but muh nostalgia..."

When, was the last time you played San Andreas, VC or III?

IF YOU'RE SO GOD DAMN NOSTALGIC, WHY YOU DONT PLAY THOSE GAMES INSTEAD?

Edited March 4, 2017 by MGgames100

[SHADOW OPS]

MGgames is starting to sound like me.

 

Duck and cover.

[Mach1bud]

Firstly, I played SA yesterday.

 

Secondly, relax man.

[SPECTER II]

oh my gosh guys let's just speculate and not kill each other over harmless things.

[Commander S]

Well, R* clearly thinks it's worth doing throwbacks to the pre-GTA IV games, so...

This whole thing basically feels like what happens when decades of separate creative decisions suddenly meet head-on - there's only been continuity in car designs/names starting with GTA IV (which also marked the beginning of R* using pastiche names of makes, instead of just individual car names). For them to bring back names/designs of pre-GTA IV cars now to homage past GTAs is going to throw up a bunch of issues, because I imagine that for most of GTA history, R*'s been taking a 'clean slate' when designing each game's cars, and disregarding that which came before - until now.

(indeed, that still happens - see also: the redesigned Contender, or the repurposing of the Itali GTB name)

[[...]]

Nobody cares about the first games or the cars that were in them. The polls on these forums prove that. People care about III, VC, and SA. Those are the games that made Rockstar who they are. Those are the games that people remember. Those are the cars people want to return. Yes, f*ck the era thing. This has nothing to do with that.

 

I have highlighted your issue. This is not real life. These are not real cars. These are not real manufacturers. They are made up, pretend, parodies. Being true to the past and making an authentic nostalgia inducing car is way, way more important than any real life parody accuracy. We all want both an NSX and a Supra as well. The only person that is confusing things is you.

 

Dinka Jester Classic = Supra

Anyothernametheywant = NSX

 

I would wager a large sum that if they ever add a Supra, it will be a Dinka Jester Classic/Retro.

 

But hey, we both got our opinions. In the end I hope everyone gets the car they want regardless of the name. Nothing we can do but wait it out.

 

>The only person that is confusing things is you

Not only him. The Jester Classic being a Supra while the "modern" Jester is an NSX looks odd for me as well.

 

>I have highlighted your issue. This is not real life. These are not real cars. These are not real manufacturers. They are made up, pretend, parodies.

Of course, the vehicle brands in HD Era are parodies, but they were supposed to make fun of specific manufacturers, but now, Rockstar tend to consider brands generic rather than being parodies of real-life brands.

 

E: Very small grammar fix

Edited March 4, 2017 by Phnx.

[HKM87]

Did the free mode events update got any stuff with it, or was is just gameplay?

 

If so, special vehicle races might be the same.

 

I won't care really, I lost interest in this f*cking game anyway, all we get is ugly supers and ricers.

[Mach1bud]

Did the free mode events update got any stuff with it, or was is just gameplay?

 

If so, special vehicle races might be the same.

 

I won't care really, I lost interest in this f*cking game anyway, all we get is ugly supers and ricers.

Freemode, and the Content Creator update did not have vehicles included. That is what I am expecting.

[Spitta_Vercetti]

Street gang DLC is the most realistic speculation......

[HKM87]

Well, R* clearly thinks it's worth doing throwbacks to the pre-GTA IV games, so...

 

This whole thing basically feels like what happens when decades of separate creative decisions suddenly meet head-on - there's only been continuity in car designs/names starting with GTA IV (which also marked the beginning of R* using pastiche names of makes, instead of just individual car names). For them to bring back names/designs of pre-GTA IV cars now to homage past GTAs is going to throw up a bunch of issues, because I imagine that for most of GTA history, R*'s been taking a 'clean slate' when designing each game's cars, and disregarding that which came before - until now.

 

(indeed, that still happens - see also: the redesigned Contender, or the repurposing of the Itali GTB name)

Creative decisions my ass, these are bad dicisions.

 

and for the record the game has been taken over by people like you naging for the game be like NFS

 

Why the f*ck so few hotrods in LS where hot-roding was born, this is obsured.

[Spitta_Vercetti]

Or freemode events part II