Next DLC Speculation Thread (Part 3)

[DisCrafted]

 

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/gta-online-wont-be-supported-forever-take-two-ceo-/1100-6440383/ This "franchise rest" is going to begin soon. This fall i'd say, because RDR2 comes out. A couple of years later and we'll get an announcement for the next GTA.

I know the interview, but after that GTA had it's most popular quarter ever. Ceasing support would be a fiduciary nightmare. They literally have a responsibility to their shareholders and with the amount of money that GTAO brings in it would be a lawsuit waiting to happen. "We don't need hundreds of millions in revenue for very little outlay, we're going to let it rest" would go over phenomenally badly at the next shareholder meeting.

 

In fact, from that article was stated "We do expect GTA Online's results to moderate because October will be three years since we released it," when in reality the opposite happened. It rose in popularity to it's highest point, it did not moderate. Just like the article states when it falls in revenue it will be rested, but so far the opposite has happened, and that shows no signs of changing anytime soon.

 

There is no way to justify shutting off a revenue stream of over a hundred million a quarter with something like a higher than 95% return rate.

 

I'm not sure if the amount of players increased. I'd say it stayed the same or maybe decreased just a little. But tbh the point is they're gonna have to pull the plug eventually, whether it's this year or not. I think Leslie's intention was to have GTA Online alive for a LOOOONG time. I remember reading an interview with him a few days ago that included him saying stuff like adding new locations and such, which (at least) in my opinion isn't a good thing. I'd rather have a new GTA game every 5 to 6 years and i don't care if the time in between the releases will be longer each generation. a sequel with a new engine, new physics, new story, new characters and etc is so different than just adding new stuff (even if it's a whole city) to a 4 year old game.

Edited April 12, 2017 by DisCrafted

[Maeve]

XXII is not a leaker. Nothing he says is real. It's been proven he's just a good model maker/troller.

He has stated some true things, however they were already known... lmao. He's take stuff from legit people and post it as his own...

[CarimboHanky]

 

 

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/gta-online-wont-be-supported-forever-take-two-ceo-/1100-6440383/ This "franchise rest" is going to begin soon. This fall i'd say, because RDR2 comes out. A couple of years later and we'll get an announcement for the next GTA.

I know the interview, but after that GTA had it's most popular quarter ever. Ceasing support would be a fiduciary nightmare. They literally have a responsibility to their shareholders and with the amount of money that GTAO brings in it would be a lawsuit waiting to happen. "We don't need hundreds of millions in revenue for very little outlay, we're going to let it rest" would go over phenomenally badly at the next shareholder meeting.

 

In fact, from that article was stated "We do expect GTA Online's results to moderate because October will be three years since we released it," when in reality the opposite happened. It rose in popularity to it's highest point, it did not moderate. Just like the article states when it falls in revenue it will be rested, but so far the opposite has happened, and that shows no signs of changing anytime soon.

 

There is no way to justify shutting off a revenue stream of over a hundred million a quarter with something like a higher than 95% return rate.

 

R*/TakeTwo are in a really weird position...

 

when reading those interviews, for some reason i can tell they want to rest the franchise already but, how can you stop feeding that cow that keeps giving you great milk.

 

unless RDR turn gtao into a ghost town(which it wont) and cashcard profit fall to only a few thousand dollars, at this point i see them supporting the game til pretty much the next gta is around the corner, shareholders would never say "yeah f*ck the dividends, rest the franchise".

[CarnageRacing00]

 

 

They're not gonna shut it down. They're just going to stop the updates. Maybe release new Cars or vehicles so that they could still make some money off of Shark Cards but that's it.

At some point yes, but that's unlikely right now. This game isn't making them "some money" it's making them a sh*tload of money.

 

Do you realize that GTA Online, alone, has very likely brought in more cash and more profits than Red Dead Redemption did over its entire lifetime?

 

That's just Online, that *does not* count sales of GTA V at all. Just shark card sales. And it was done with a fraction of the development crew for a fraction of the cash outlay after Online was running.

 

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/gta-online-wont-be-supported-forever-take-two-ceo-/1100-6440383/ This "franchise rest" is going to begin soon. This fall i'd say, because RDR2 comes out. A couple of years later and we'll get an announcement for the next GTA.

RDR2 is not going to be competitive with GTAV. People need to get that out of their heads. RDR2's release isn't going to change what happens with GTAO, other than there may be a temporary lull in GTAO support while "all hands are on deck" for RDR2, in a manner of speaking, but don't expect that to last more than a few weeks... IF it happens at all.

 

RDR2 will be lucky to achieve half the sales of GTAV, and half the players of GTAO.

 

Simply put, there are far more people who are into guns and cars and modern music and drugs and modern crime than who are into horses and spurs and southern accents and old-timey stuff.

 

It has nothing to do with the quality of the game. If game quality meant ANYTHING in regards to sales/popularity, Metro 2033 would be the best selling first person shooter of the last decade.

[scaldy78]

Interesting, thanks for the input! Didn't know the cargobob is able to lift the Rhino. MUST try that today.

Me and a buddy would get kicks out of cargo bobbing a rhino and a turreted limo onto one of our yachts and then doing piracy prevention.

[M*A*R*I*N*A]

xxii "leaked" a gunrunning vehicle. Probably fake and made by himself but i would love it to see this in online. Looks awesome...

http://imgur.com/a/E9sO4

Anybody got any source for this? It was posted by XXII on twitter, who is notorious for creating concept DLC & confusion amongst the community. This looks real, but the model looks a little messy in some areas.

https://twitter.com/X_X_l_l/status/852129667381383168

The design for that vehicle is no offence pretty awful, cool concept but poorly executed. The turret on the top cannot rotate in any direction (as it so clearly looks) and seeing as the truck is so high what is the turret supposed to hit? You'd have to be on a hill or something just to get on level with your target. The fog lights are also positioned weirdly and the whole rear of the truck just looks off as does parts of the roof. Rockstar are pretty good with attention to detail so it wouldn't make sense that they made that. If they did I'd be truly shocked. I'm going to say it's a mod made by him or at least photoshopped. He tends to make a lot of concepts and DLC's of his own but I can never take his "leaks" seriously because he's so inconsistent. Edited April 12, 2017 by N R G

[DisCrafted]

 

 

 

They're not gonna shut it down. They're just going to stop the updates. Maybe release new Cars or vehicles so that they could still make some money off of Shark Cards but that's it.

At some point yes, but that's unlikely right now. This game isn't making them "some money" it's making them a sh*tload of money.

 

Do you realize that GTA Online, alone, has very likely brought in more cash and more profits than Red Dead Redemption did over its entire lifetime?

 

That's just Online, that *does not* count sales of GTA V at all. Just shark card sales. And it was done with a fraction of the development crew for a fraction of the cash outlay after Online was running.

 

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/gta-online-wont-be-supported-forever-take-two-ceo-/1100-6440383/ This "franchise rest" is going to begin soon. This fall i'd say, because RDR2 comes out. A couple of years later and we'll get an announcement for the next GTA.

RDR2 is not going to be competitive with GTAV. People need to get that out of their heads. RDR2's release isn't going to change what happens with GTAO, other than there may be a temporary lull in GTAO support while "all hands are on deck" for RDR2, in a manner of speaking, but don't expect that to last more than a few weeks... IF it happens at all.

 

RDR2 will be lucky to achieve half the sales of GTAV, and half the players of GTAO.

 

Simply put, there are far more people who are into guns and cars and modern music and drugs and modern crime than who are into horses and spurs and southern accents and old-timey stuff.

 

I mention RDR2 because i think R* likes to focus on their new games. GTA V and Online have been the focus for 4 years. They'll want to shift the focus soon.

Edited April 12, 2017 by DisCrafted

[DentureDynamite]

[snip]

 

-new assault rifle: the heavy assault rifle, well, not new since it is inspired by the SCAR-H. Have a magazine of 20, could be extended to 40. The best assault rifle in terms of damages and range, but the slowest for the fire rate. Accuracy between the special carbine and the carbine.

 

Interesting point about the SCAR-H; I was hoping the cut/unreleased Assault MG would be more like the H&K G3A3...but sounds like that's still unclear unless someone has actually been able to use it in-game?

[Black-Dragon96]

Anybody got any source for this? It was posted by XXII on twitter, who is notorious for creating concept DLC & confusion amongst the community. This looks real, but the model looks a little messy in some areas.

https://twitter.com/X_X_l_l/status/852129667381383168

Well the modell looks actually pretty well made to me but it could simply be a mod.

The turret is something new (looks like the gta 4 apc turret), the bars who go up to the roof are from the insurgent pickup and the little pushbar on the front is similar to the contender pushbar.

[M*A*R*I*N*A]

Also, since XXII likes to copy and paste from R* assets I just realised that the turret is actually re-used of the GTA TBOGT HVY APC. I thought the text on the turret looked familiar, plus if R* did create that they'd at least update the details.

[RedDagger]

We're really desperate if we're looking to XXII

[DentureDynamite]

[snip]

 

-new assault rifle: the heavy assault rifle, well, not new since it is inspired by the SCAR-H. Have a magazine of 20, could be extended to 40. The best assault rifle in terms of damages and range, but the slowest for the fire rate. Accuracy between the special carbine and the carbine.

 

Interesting point about the SCAR-H; I was hoping the cut/unreleased Assault MG would be more like the HK G3A3 (and not the HK 21 as the GTA Wiki connects it to)...but sounds like that's still unclear unless someone has actually been able to use it in-game?

 

Probably too much of a combination to declare it modeled on a single gun...

Edited April 12, 2017 by DentureDynamite

[M*A*R*I*N*A]

We're really desperate if we're looking to XXII

Mods are the new leaked DLC content amirite?

[enjoyingorc6742]

Also, since XXII likes to copy and paste from R* assets I just realised that the turret is actually re-used of the GTA TBOGT HVY APC. I thought the text on the turret looked familiar, plus if R* did create that they'd at least update the details.

isn't the APC supposed to be amphibious? it could return with that feature with the Gun-Runners.....i mean Gun Running update.

[M*A*R*I*N*A]

 

Also, since XXII likes to copy and paste from R* assets I just realised that the turret is actually re-used of the GTA TBOGT HVY APC. I thought the text on the turret looked familiar, plus if R* did create that they'd at least update the details.

isn't the APC supposed to be amphibious? it could return with that feature with the Gun-Runners.....i mean Gun Running update.

 

It wasn't in GTA TBOGT. Would be cool though, I loved the APC.

Edited April 12, 2017 by N R G

[enjoyingorc6742]

 

 

Also, since XXII likes to copy and paste from R* assets I just realised that the turret is actually re-used of the GTA TBOGT HVY APC. I thought the text on the turret looked familiar, plus if R* did create that they'd at least update the details.

isn't the APC supposed to be amphibious? it could return with that feature with the Gun-Runners.....i mean Gun Running update.

 

It wasn't in GTA TBOGT

 

i know, but didn't it say somewhere that it was supposed to be amphibious?

[Dark_Rider013]

That'd be great if we have an announcement by the end of this month.

[M*A*R*I*N*A]

 

 

 

Also, since XXII likes to copy and paste from R* assets I just realised that the turret is actually re-used of the GTA TBOGT HVY APC. I thought the text on the turret looked familiar, plus if R* did create that they'd at least update the details.

isn't the APC supposed to be amphibious? it could return with that feature with the Gun-Runners.....i mean Gun Running update.

 

It wasn't in GTA TBOGT

 

i know, but didn't it say somewhere that it was supposed to be amphibious?

 

No, I don't think so. The name means 'Armed Personnel Carrier' even though I'm so sure APC actually stands for Armoured Personnel Carrier.

Edited April 12, 2017 by N R G

[DentureDynamite]

If RDR2 can't stop GTAO. Devs running out of resources will.

 

And R* (or Take-Two?)'s refusal/reluctance to hire more people despite making uber amounts of cash... something at some point has to give; the long-term health (and big, ongoing money flow) of the game is at stake.

 

But I suspect R* could care less about the PC at this point...they're not going to sink any more funds into their (arguably) biggest maintenance headache. And I say that using a PC myself. *sigh* (Undoubtedly, the PS4 is the biggest money-maker, followed by the XBox One and then the PC.)

 

But back on topic: Older players like myself can make the argument that GTA Online is in serious need of a major refresh (map update/cleanup, game play mechanics and balancing, etc.) IMO it's making tons of money only because of the influx of new players who have two or so years of exploring to do...and R* knows it.

 

So I'm curious about what (if anything fundamentally new) gun running brings with it. The longer gap between DLCs is more likely to be just a smaller team trying to hold the fort, and not a more extensive game-changing "refresh".

Edited April 12, 2017 by DentureDynamite

[GLTh3Pr0]

 

 

 

isn't the APC supposed to be amphibious? it could return with that feature with the Gun-Runners.....i mean Gun Running update.

It wasn't in GTA TBOGT

 

i know, but didn't it say somewhere that it was supposed to be amphibious?

No, I don't think so. The name means 'Armed Personnel Carrier' even though I'm so sure APC actually stands for Armoured Personnel Carrier.

You're wrong, the BRDM-2 is a fully amphibious. I'm pretty sure that it lacks propellers tho, which would make it pretty slow on water, like the Splitz 6-ATV in GTA VCS (but I would still love the feature as I did with the ATV).

When I first obtained it in TBOGT, trying to dive it in the water was the first thing I did, and it didn't end up well (I should have learned the lesson back in the day I tried to do it with the S.W.A.T. tank in GTA SA, as the Cadillac Gage Commando is amphibious too)

 

Edited April 12, 2017 by GLTh3Pr0

[M*A*R*I*N*A]

 

 

 

 

isn't the APC supposed to be amphibious? it could return with that feature with the Gun-Runners.....i mean Gun Running update.

It wasn't in GTA TBOGT

 

i know, but didn't it say somewhere that it was supposed to be amphibious?

No, I don't think so. The name means 'Armed Personnel Carrier' even though I'm so sure APC actually stands for Armoured Personnel Carrier.

You're wrong, the BRDM is a fully amphibious. I'm pretty sure that it lacks propellers tho, which would make it pretty slow on water, like the Splitz 6-ATV in GTA VCS (but I would still love the feature as I did with the ATV).

When I first obtained it in TBOGT, trying to dive it in the water was the first thing I did, and it didn't end up well (I should have learned the lesson back in the day I tried to do it with the S.W.A.T. tank in GTA SA, as the V-100 is amphibious too)

 

 

How am I wrong? I'm talking about the APC, not the BRDM. Is the APC amphibious was the question and it isn't was my answer. Maybe, if R* bring back the APC (or a new version), it will be amphibious.

Edited April 12, 2017 by N R G

[Mach1bud]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, since XXII likes to copy and paste from R* assets I just realised that the turret is actually re-used of the GTA TBOGT HVY APC. I thought the text on the turret looked familiar, plus if R* did create that they'd at least update the details.

isn't the APC supposed to be amphibious? it could return with that feature with the Gun-Runners.....i mean Gun Running update.

 

It wasn't in GTA TBOGT

 

i know, but didn't it say somewhere that it was supposed to be amphibious?

 

No, I don't think so. The name means 'Armed Personnel Carrier' even though I'm so sure APC actually stands for Armoured Personnel Carrier.You're wrong, the BRDM is a fully amphibious. I'm pretty sure that it lacks propellers tho, which would make it pretty slow on water, like the Splitz 6-ATV in GTA VCS (but I would still love the feature as I did with the ATV).

When I first obtained it in TBOGT, trying to dive it in the water was the first thing I did, and it didn't end up well (I should have learned the lesson back in the day I tried to do it with the S.W.A.T. tank in GTA SA, as the V-100 is amphibious too)

 

 

He is not wrong, he was speaking about in game it does not mention it being amphibious.

 

Also, most APC vehicles are not amphibious. Common mistaken thought because most of them have V shaped belly pans, which is to deflect explosions, not to make it into a boat.

[Faggio S]

 

But I suspect R* could care less about the PC at this point...they're not going to sink any more funds into their (arguably) biggest maintenance headache. And I say that using a PC myself. *sigh* (Undoubtedly, the PS4 is the biggest money-maker, followed by the XBox One and then the PC.)

 

 

Yes consoles will have the majority of GTA 5 sales, but is there any data available that shows what % of GTA's total sales goes to the PC version ?

[DentureDynamite]

He is not wrong, he was speaking about in game it does not mention it being amphibious.

 

Also, most APC vehicles are not amphibious. Common mistaken thought because most of them have V shaped belly pans, which is to deflect explosions, not to make it into a boat.

 

+1 on the V-shaped hull; the South African Buffel is a prime example of that (deflecting land mines, in particular--extra photo).

 

FWIW, the SADF also came up with a cool, coiled barbed-wire dispensing vehicle that works very well; could be handy in blocking off LSPD vehicles from certain areas. lol

Edited April 12, 2017 by DentureDynamite

[Classique]

So, now that the Stallion and the Dukes will be available for everyone soon...

 

Do you guys think that they'll get the Benny version?

 

Personal opinion, but I'd loooove to have a Bennyfied Stallion. That thing needs some more customization options, in my opinion.

[GLTh3Pr0]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, since XXII likes to copy and paste from R* assets I just realised that the turret is actually re-used of the GTA TBOGT HVY APC. I thought the text on the turret looked familiar, plus if R* did create that they'd at least update the details.

isn't the APC supposed to be amphibious? it could return with that feature with the Gun-Runners.....i mean Gun Running update.

 

It wasn't in GTA TBOGT

 

i know, but didn't it say somewhere that it was supposed to be amphibious?

 

No, I don't think so. The name means 'Armed Personnel Carrier' even though I'm so sure APC actually stands for Armoured Personnel Carrier.

You're wrong, the BRDM is a fully amphibious. I'm pretty sure that it lacks propellers tho, which would make it pretty slow on water, like the Splitz 6-ATV in GTA VCS (but I would still love the feature as I did with the ATV).

When I first obtained it in TBOGT, trying to dive it in the water was the first thing I did, and it didn't end up well (I should have learned the lesson back in the day I tried to do it with the S.W.A.T. tank in GTA SA, as the V-100 is amphibious too)

 

 

 

He is not wrong, he was speaking about in game it does not mention it being amphibious.

 

Also, most APC vehicles are not amphibious. Common mistaken thought because most of them have V shaped belly pans, which is to deflect explosions, not to make it into a boat.

 

The very first post specifically said "HVY APC", and the second one called it "the APC" when asking if it was amphibious, obviously referring to the same one, which is based on the BRDM-2 and the Cadillac Gage Commando, both of them being amphibious. Since the post he answered to kept calling it "the APC", I assumed that he was still talking about the HVY APC, not the general term.

Edited April 12, 2017 by GLTh3Pr0

[Mach1bud]

I got that, he was asking if, in game, does it mention that it's supposed to be amphibious, which it does not.

 

Tbh I always thought it was a M1117. I guess they all look somewhat similar though.

[Pedinhuh]

So, now that the Stallion and the Dukes will be available for everyone soon...

 

Do you guys think that they'll get the Benny version?

 

Personal opinion, but I'd loooove to have a Bennyfied Stallion. That thing needs some more customization options, in my opinion.

I fail to see the appeal in making the Stallion a Lowrider, its a classic muscle car.

 

It still puzzles me why they picked the Sabre Turbo to be a Lowrider instead of the Manana or Peyote.

[SickBoy]

 

So, now that the Stallion and the Dukes will be available for everyone soon...

 

Do you guys think that they'll get the Benny version?

 

Personal opinion, but I'd loooove to have a Bennyfied Stallion. That thing needs some more customization options, in my opinion.

I fail to see the appeal in making the Stallion a Lowrider, its a classic muscle car.

 

It still puzzles me why they picked the Sabre Turbo to be a Lowrider instead of the Manana or Peyote.

 

 

Nobody said "Lowrider". Just look at the likes of the Sultan, Banshee, Spectre, Elegy and Comet Classics, the several super cars that were added to Benny's. Benny's isn't a Lowrider only mod shop, it's an advanced customisation shop. And anyway, even if the Stallion were to be added to Benny's as a Lowrider, just look at the Slamvan. They absolutely nailed that, and nobody is force to use the Hydraulics. I use my Slamvan fully raised when I'm cruising in it, and if I need some speed, I'll simply lower it and shoot off to my destination.

Edited April 12, 2017 by SickBoy

[Classique]

I fail to see the appeal in making the Stallion a Lowrider, its a classic muscle car.

It still puzzles me why they picked the Sabre Turbo to be a Lowrider instead of the Manana or Peyote.

Even if it was named 'Stallion Custom', and was made into a hydraulic motor sofa, I still wouldn't mind. I'm not forced to use the Hydraulics anyway (the Sabre Turbo Custom is a great example on what I mean - but I agree with you, the Sabre Turbo shouldn't been a lowrider in the first place anyway). I just want some more customization for the poor car. Plus, there are some Benny rims I would like to see on the Stallion.