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No man's sky and EA battlefront 2 on wikipedia's list of worst games


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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_notable_for_negative_reception

I mean both of these games were launch disasters, drew extensive controversy, and are now infamous for their own reasons, but I don't get why they are ranked among the candidates for worst game of all time. Plus, they also both made massive comebacks (in their own ways) in the years following their release. What is your opinion? Do you believe their spots on the list are deserved, or not?

Also, have any of you played any other games in this list? What's your opinion on them?

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Wikipedia is made by people and that means gamers themselves. Whether they are regular forum gamers or journalists, they tend to sh*t on video games and are happy to do things like this.

 

Do the games deserve it? I don't know. 'Worst game of all time' means that these games are less than Pong in content, technical wise, graphical wise, gameplay wise, which that also means that Solitaire aced both of them. With that, I think the answer is already there. The only thing I'm sure of at this point is my statement above. What I see now is that gamers is starting to antagonize games more and their action is farther than anti-video game people, which I'm sure those who do so will wash their hands with "we only dislike the business model" which obviously doesn't reflect their daily activity in the community.

 

I play neither of the games mentioned. What I know about SWBF2 was the random pay2win, while NMS is that people were 'scammed' in a way? I mean, listening how Sean Murray talked in any interview should have brought people a good hint to at least wait until there is gameplay on YT. Gamers should have been smarter for NMS case. Hype was their own creation that shot their own feet.

 

It's a good thing you brought up that they made a 'comeback'. No idea about Battlefront 2, but I read that NMS got game changing updates. So I guess that's good for those who were interested and are playing the game. Should give them credits where it's due, because at the end of the day, this means they are still responsible and looking to repair things up from the feedback and beyond. 

 

I'm from the 'you buy what you want, you play what you like' type of gamer. From this perspective, overall I see the list is very unnecessarily lame to make. 

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That list is pretty crappy.

 

SimCity was flawed, but it was far from the worst game. It played very well, kept me interesting in the mechanics of the city, and succeeded better at "game" than Cities Skylines.

 

No Man's Sky was flawed, but it wasn't the worst game at its release, and it surely isn't in its current state.

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36 minutes ago, Tchuck said:

That list is pretty crappy.

 

SimCity was flawed, but it was far from the worst game. It played very well, kept me interesting in the mechanics of the city, and succeeded better at "game" than Cities Skylines.

 

No Man's Sky was flawed, but it wasn't the worst game at its release, and it surely isn't in its current state.

Exactly my thoughts. Have you played any other games on that list?

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I wouldn't look too much into it. I've never played No Man's Sky or Battlefront II, but it seems like they're targeted more for their rocky releases than than them being fundamentally "bad" games.

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I did play Colonial Marines, and it was utter garbage. And FFXIV when it first came out, and it was awful. Duke Nukem Forever was also rubbish, but not the worst of all time. If it had been released half a decade earlier, it would have fared better.

 

I am familiar with several other games on that list that truly do deserve to be there. Bubsy 3D is rubbish. ET ditto. So to place No Man's Sky and SimCity 

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Looked at the list, first reaction was...wow every time my Grand parents buy me a video game they seem pick the worst one out at the time.

Second reaction was no surprise that most games based on a movie or tv show are just going to be god awful.

Third reaction was why exactly would I play this online?  Sim City Online the perils of being on the Zoning Board.  (Have no knowledge of Sim City Online out of curiousity was the idea aside from chat to allow one to run their own city independently but set up symbiotic relationships with other cities?)

 Lists of this kind and most Wikipedia articles are only of limited use in perhaps avoiding a truly glitch ridden game.

 

 

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Daikatana, woah... I remember I bought a pirated copy of that when I was in Hong Kong. I paid 4 dollars hong kong, which is 50 cents Australian.

 

If only I could get my money back 😭

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It's just listing games that were notable for negative reception, no? It doesn't say anything about how good the game itself was like from a reviewer's angle, it just details the reaction to the games?

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No Man's Sky was nothing short of a disappointment at launch. But in essence, it was not a bad game - it's just that the blatant marketing and failing to live up to high promises gave it a bad rep. But I wouldn't say it's a fundamentally bad game. It may not have been a good game but it's far away from being the worst. 

 

I haven't checked it out in it's current state but from what I read all around the internet it's much better now.

 

Battlefront II is in the same boat. Take away all the lootboxes and controversy around the game and you have something that you can't really call bad. Great graphics, great combat and the immersion was there. The campaign didn't shake any trees, but let's face it - not many people bought the game for that.

 

It was much easier to point out all the sh*t choices that the game was plagued with rather than praise it for what it managed to do right. It sucks a bit that a game which at face value looks more than passable had to be sacrificed so EA can be slapped in the face, even if only for a little while, but with all the micro-transactions, this was the one instance where EA jumped a bit too far.

 

Still, I would never choose these two games to be on a list of worst games ever. Then again, this is wikipedia, so it doesn't bother me that much.

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It's still a sh*t game because they haven't fixed the grinding. Who the hell likes to grind so much?

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People who consider these games among the worst ever have no frickin' clue about videogames. They probably never ever played a non-AAA game, or any game made more than 15 years ago. Reception and actual quality are different things, even if the lack of one often derives into the other.

 

Things like the E.T. videogame from 1983 truly deserve to be considered among the worst games ever. One thing is today's greedy microtransactions and DLC, but asking a just graduated 26 year old programmer to make a game within a few weeks is demential. Plus, that level of greed ruined thousands of families with the loss of so many jobs at Atari and other companies. That's a much bigger disgrace than having to grind or spend money to get the cool stuff in a game.

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No Man's Sky? More like No Guy Buy! Heh, heh, heh, HEEEEEEHH--

 

NMS has gotten quite a few interesting patches so it's had some form of redemption since it's initial release. Gotta give the devs props for that, not many can redeem a game so widely hated like that.

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10 hours ago, Nico said:

People who consider these games among the worst ever have no frickin' clue about videogames. They probably never ever played a non-AAA game, or any game made more than 15 years ago. Reception and actual quality are different things, even if the lack of one often derives into the other.

 

Things like the E.T. videogame from 1983 truly deserve to be considered among the worst games ever. One thing is today's greedy microtransactions and DLC, but asking a just graduated 26 year old programmer to make a game within a few weeks is demential. Plus, that level of greed ruined thousands of families with the loss of so many jobs at Atari and other companies. That's a much bigger disgrace than having to grind or spend money to get the cool stuff in a game.

And to think that E.T game almost cost the video game industry to go belly up too. If it did none of us would be here. It makes things like DLC and microtransactions look like gifts from God.

 

Despite the nostalgia from the "good old days" I think people tend to forget the real sh*t that was served up when gaming was still finding its feet.

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To be fair, No Man's Sky is actually a playable and enjoyable game right now. The dev's kept at it and kept adding more (like...what they advertised it had!)

 

Battlefront 2 however, is still one hot mess. EA abandoned that title long ago to pursue their next annual gambling simulator.

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I wouldn't say that a game like Battlefront 2 is an unplayable and downright broken piece of sh*t on the level of trash like E.T, Big Rigs and Ride to Hell. It's to do with the scummy and vomit-inducing practices of EA more than anything, so even if it's for a different reason, I'd say it's spot on the list is justified.

 

I can't speak for No Man's Sky, though it seems to be more a case of a game that overpromised and vastly undelivered.

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It's just a list and largely subjective anyway.

 

No one here has can say with any kind of authority that a given game isn't rubbish, any more that the people who compiled that list can say they are.

 

In fact technically speaking the people here have less authority, as the list is based on sales and public reaction on release.

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