I cannot believe how toxic Rockstar has allowed GTA Online to become!

[ALifeOfMisery]

47 minutes ago, irish.chr said:

The only reason I haven't uninstalled this game is because of solo public lobbies.

Same. There's no way I'd still be playing without them.

 

I'm already on the verge of becoming the type of player who logs in on Tuesdays and DLC release days because I have enough money to not need to grind and R* aren't adding enough quality content to keep me engaged.

 

If I was forced to deal with public freeroam during my dwindling play time I doubt I'd bother at all.

 

As for RDO if we can't go solo public, or at least have blips off (preferably permanently, but I'd accept blips being activated based on proximity) I doubt I'll even bother with that at all. The more I think about it the less I feel like I can face it, unless it's amazing.

[Bandersnatch]

Yup , pubilc gtao has become way to toxic, have only logged in for 32mins this week even the games npcs are toxic nagging spam calls .

 

Have been using fiveM and single player mods instead,  so much nicer over here feels like I am playing on open world game agian. 

 

One thing is for sure if it was not for solo/freind loobys with crew and folks from the  forum , would have removed gtav from my PS4 long ago. 

 

 

[Mexicola9302]

Just join friends with strict nat type, randoms can't join them. This way you can play in peace again, but it's boring after a while if absoulutely nothing unexpected happens. If this doesn't work for some reason, just use the same cheap tactics, use the Oppressor MKII yourself and use heavy explosive sniper to shoot through walls, and abuse the passive mode yourself. Fight fire with fire.  

 

I would also say Bitch & Moan it doesn't really deserve it's own thread.

[MCMXCII]

You're better off not playing this toxic game. You'll live a longer and healthier life by not playing this game.

[fw3]

9 hours ago, Quinn_flower said:

I agree but ppl on here will say b and m 

Well, yes, because the whole original post is nothing but a long winded B&M rant that has been pitched a thousand times on this forum.

My question to the OP is:
If you played chess against a monkey who smashed the board, scattered the pieces, and threw poop at you – would you keep setting up the board to play again? 

Sorry, but this is a rant whose ship has sailed.

[Nyamber]

Hiding posts like this away in a B and M thread is the exact reason nothing gets f*cking done about it.

 

If you want anything to change, you have to let people actually be heard.

[Dr.Rosenthal]

Reading about RDR2 and seeing that there’s a broader focus on roleplay, I’d hope that RDO is different from what GTAO has become. But in IGN’s Q&A with Imran Sarwar he explains that they view the SP and Online as two distinctly separate things, and it sounds a bit like they keep the ultra-competitive environment for RDO.

I get the feeling that they don’t want people to roleplay in MP, but that it should just be a huge deathmatch with constant action and fierce competition.

 

But yeah, these subjects have already been discussed in absurdum.

 

I’m using the Mk2 Oppressor with the speed glitch, simply because I have to. I hate the thing and I never wanted it in the game but I need to use it to achieve my goals nowadays. And me and my friends usually try and get sessions to ourselves. If some random pops in and starts following us around in a Deluxo or Mk2 Oppressor, he’s dead or preferably kicked out. Because randoms are almost always trouble, simply. We just want to be left alone. If GTAO had better balancing maybe we could all be in a session together with a fair amount of competition, but it can’t be done now. One tryhard griefer is enough to completely ruin a session.

 

Oh well. Man, I’m looking forward to unplug completely and get lost in the west come Oct 26th.

[Forza Harrd]

41 minutes ago, irish.chr said:

Hiding posts like this away in a B and M thread is the exact reason nothing gets f*cking done about it.

 

If you want anything to change, you have to let people actually be heard.

 

Oh yeah sure THAT'S the reason. *rolls eyes*

[ALifeOfMisery]

55 minutes ago, fw3 said:

If you played chess against a monkey who smashed the board, scattered the pieces, and threw poop at you – would you keep setting up the board to play again? 

I'd expect no better from the monkey. I, perhaps foolishly, expect infinitely better behaviour from the humans OP described.

 

Sadly, the monkey probably has a greater capacity for behavioural change than the players OP encountered.

[Wastelander (Suzuki)]

It's not *Gets Griefed by Jet* Toxic *Gets Griefed by Meme Car and Broomsticks that EWO*, everything *Gets Auto Aim Combat MG'd* is *Gets Orb Spammed* fine *Gets DDoS'd for about 6 hours by Mil-sim kiddies*.

[Ice_cold2016]

It's deffo gotten worse. I've spotted that passive abuse has gotten worse. Even low rankers seem to be abusing it now. While high rankers abuse passive and the oribital cannon glitch. Because i'm a high rank they try to attack me but more often than not fail. They then go into passive and send me a ton of nasty stupid texts before using the orbital cannon glitch on me. Been blasted with the orbital cannon glitch about 25 to 30 this week. And i've barley even played it this week. I've also noticed that the MKII speed boost glitch seems to be very common. I said on release that the MKII was an oppressor for noobs and it would give all the noobs a tool to grief with. Weird how they nerfed the B-11 Strikeforce only to add the MKII in a week later and leave the speed glitch unpatched still after all these weeks. That speed boost glitch is cancerous. I have a few months left on my ps plus but as soon as that runs out i'll never play online games again. The GTA community has put me off of it. Single player is where all the relaxing fun is. You can play at your own pace and no 12yr olds texting you telling you they've fu*ked your mum or getting called "noob" every 5 minutes. As for Rockstars future games i won't be buying anymore of them. I've been with them since day one and grew up with them. They used to be my favourite developers. But after the way in which GTAV was handled and how they don't care about anything but our money i now see them as one of the worsed developers out there. Don't get that twisted now. I'm not saying that Rockstar make bad games. They make incredible technical marvels. But what they do and thier busniess practice is so morally wrong. I tried to report kids as young as 5 on there and Rockstar didn't care. That in itself is pretty shocking and morally screwed up. They seem to have gotten super arrogant as if they think they can't fail. I think if Red Dead 2 online is anything like GTA online, which it sounds very much like it will be, i can see people getting bored of it pretty quickly. And the more they keep making online games pay to win or grind your life away and unfair the more and more people will tire of it. I can already see the Red Dead 2 version of mail van sale missions. You get given a clapped out slow donkey that has to travel real slow because of all the weight of the cargo its carrying. And you will probably have to stop and feed it carrots to keep its strength up and allow it to continue the sales missions. lol Then a year later they will add the flying steam train from Back to the Future part III and make it weaponised. lol you just wait it's coming i tells ya.

[Pedinhuh]

11 hours ago, Quinn_flower said:

I agree but ppl on here will say b and m 

Apparently, commenting about this game's toxic player base is like commenting on someone's ego and they can't have that, so they try to minimize and/or disqualify the thread's arguments by saying it shouldn't be here, blah blah blah...And even though the thread might have a point, the discussion will be halted and won't have the same reach to other members if it's transferred to B&M.

 

I pointed out how cancerous this game has become by using a opinion of a Reddit user who nailed down all points of problems, my opinion was criticized by someone merely saying the game was selling well so there was no issues.

 

A Kotaku reporter pointed out the same problems with the player base toxicity and how R* enables it, others came and said he should be playing the game on a solo public session(I guess these folks don't understand the problem with that, and have to be remimded that this is a multi-player game).

 

OP here is already being critized even though he/she has a point, sure him/her arguments may sound exagereted initially, but I mostly agree with it...And we have the folks trying times shut the discussion off because B&M.

 

 

 

Edited September 22, 2018 by Pedinhuh

[Ice_cold2016]

56 minutes ago, Pedinhuh said:

Apparently, commenting about this game's toxic player base is like commenting on someone's ego they can't have that, so they try to minimize and/or disqualify the thread's arguments by saying it shouldn't be here, blah blah blah...And even though the thread might have a point, the discussion will be halted and won't have the same reach to other members if it's transferred to B&M.

 

I pointed out how cancerous this game has become by using a opinion of a Reddit user who nailed down all points of problems, my opinion was criticized by someone merely saying the game was selling well so there was no issues.

 

A Kotaku reporter pointed out the same problems with the player base toxicity and how R* enables it, others came and said he should be playing the game on a solo public session(I guess these folks don't understand the problem with that, and have to be remimded that this is a multi-player game).

The GTA community are being voted the #1 most toxic community on Youtube videos. No surprise there. I quite like how Ubisoft are trying hard to cut out all the cancerous members of the community on thier online games. I think other developers should follow suite.

[Pedinhuh]

7 hours ago, irish.chr said:

The only reason I haven't uninstalled this game is because of solo public lobbies.

And that is a symptom of this games biggest problem, this is a multi-player game so social interaction with other players is what it is meant to be expected from it, yet we have to completely avoid it just so we can get sh*t done and progress, and it's f*cking ridiculous that the game has reached a point where we have to rely on this.

 

Meanwhile I bet a R* designer is coming with a even more cancerous version of the Oppressor because hey, why the f*ck not? The assholes will buy it anyway.

 

The theory that R* devs are trying to sabotage this game by adding things that makes the experience more and more frustrating, keeps getting more and more realistic as days goes by.

Edited September 22, 2018 by Pedinhuh

[Gemma_UK]

12 hours ago, Mafia Assassin® said:

I would say you are overreacting when you say you'll not buy any R* game ever, but I understand your frustration.

Do yourself a favor and put this game on the shelf, no need to be stressed by a videogame.

Trust me, i won't be buying them. They are not a big part of life in any way so i can easily live without them, just as i live perfectly fine without other franchises.

[Arrows to Athens]

It earns them money. They don't care so as long as they're making profit.

 

I also refuse to believe this is the same team that worked on GTA Online back in 2013, 2014, and 2015.

 

There's just no f*cking way.

Edited September 22, 2018 by Arrows to Athens

[Geisterfaust]

4 minutes ago, Arrows to Athens said:

I also refuse to believe this is the same team that worked on GTA Online back in 2013, 2014, and 2015.

 

Same. I think original team is long gone since probably 2014 current gen relaunch. 

[Gemma_UK]

3 hours ago, Ice_cold2016 said:

I think if Red Dead 2 online is anything like GTA online, which it sounds very much like it will be, i can see people getting bored of it pretty quickly. And the more they keep making online games pay to win or grind your life away and unfair the more and more people will tire of it. I can already see the Red Dead 2 version of mail van sale missions. You get given a clapped out slow donkey that has to travel real slow because of all the weight of the cargo its carrying. And you will probably have to stop and feed it carrots to keep its strength up and allow it to continue the sales missions. lol Then a year later they will add the flying steam train from Back to the Future part III and make it weaponised. lol you just wait it's coming i tells ya.

As i read this i thought to myself, believable, but i doubt they will make you stop and feed the delivery donkey carrots. But then i thought to myself how mail vans force you to get out of the van to hand deliver each parcel. GTA Online has consistently been the same over 5yrs. Every update has a few crappy sales missions that everyone hates. Mail vans, trash trucks, Here goes Merryweather again, Hacking 3 sales locations with an app on your phone before you can sell, cargobob location out at sea and so on. These crappy sales missions have shown no signs of disappearing. Traveling all the way to one end of the map to the other. Imagine doing all of that on horse's and donkey's? And they say Red Dead 2's map is much bigger which means much more travelling. No thank you, not for me.

1 hour ago, Arrows to Athens said:

It earns them money. They don't care so as long as they're making profit.

 

I also refuse to believe this is the same team that worked on GTA Online back in 2013, 2014, and 2015.

 

There's just no f*cking way.

I think you will find it is the same team at Rockstar North. Look at the objects in the Nightlife DLC. They have British sayings on them. The weed fertalizer in your Nightclub storage is called "Sod Off" and things like that. That's British for "Go away". The idea of GTAV Online was Leslie Benzies idea. And as well all know Lezlie was forced out the door. And they did the research for the Nightlife DLC in London, the DJ's revealed this in interviews. That also indicates Rockstar North as they are in the UK. Maybe Take Two Interactive are having more of an input now.

[Arrows to Athens]

42 minutes ago, Gemma_UK said:

As i read this i thought to myself, believable, but i doubt they will make you stop and feed the delivery donkey carrots. But then i thought to myself how mail vans force you to get out of the van to hand deliver each parcel. GTA Online has consistently been the same over 5yrs. Every update has a few crappy sales missions that everyone hates. Mail vans, trash trucks, Here goes Merryweather again, Hacking 3 sales locations with an app on your phone before you can sell, cargobob location out at sea and so on. These crappy sales missions have shown no signs of disappearing. Traveling all the way to one end of the map to the other. Imagine doing all of that on horse's and donkey's? And they say Red Dead 2's map is much bigger which means much more travelling. No thank you, not for me.

I think you will find it is the same team at Rockstar North. Look at the objects in the Nightlife DLC. They have British sayings on them. The weed fertalizer in your Nightclub storage is called "Sod Off" and things like that. That's British for "Go away". The idea of GTAV Online was Leslie Benzies idea. And as well all know Lezlie was forced out the door. And they did the research for the Nightlife DLC in London, the DJ's revealed this in interviews. That also indicates Rockstar North as they are in the UK. Maybe Take Two Interactive are having more of an input now.

They're British, of course, just not the same team that worked on GTA Online back in 2013, 2014, and 2015. The team is probably still based in the UK.

[Gemma_UK]

57 minutes ago, Arrows to Athens said:

They're British, of course, just not the same team that worked on GTA Online back in 2013, 2014, and 2015. The team is probably still based in the UK.

Maybe. You can compare credits when GTA6 comes out.

Edited September 22, 2018 by Gemma_UK

[deadx23]

It's weird, I manage to avoid the toxicity of gtao maybe because I'm a loner/solo player I hardly interact with the public but I'm sure it's harder now with r* forcing us to do public jobs. I could get around that by solo public "room" but then I'm alone again but I guess it's best with friends if you got those.

[HamwithCheese]

Could we even call something so diversa, large and new a community?

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

12 minutes ago, HamwithCheese said:

Could we even call something so divided, agressive and toxic a community?

FTFY

[Jenkiiii]

Don't worry guys and gals, we've got bumper cars (remix) coming out next week (very probably).

 

Slightly more seriously, one thing I've learned, is how easy it is to say my life is a pile of crap because of him/her/other people. It's not crap because of THEM but because of YOU and the way you lead your life.

I've had five years of high entertainment from GTA online and I'm pretty happy with that, and if you're a new or casual player coming on board and saying GTA is toxic because of THEM, you've unfortunately missed out on potentially the best five years gaming has ever known.

 

GTA online has surely become a nasty place to live and breathe, so my advice is to get in early on the next iteration of this game and make sure that five years down the line you're well equipped, wise and savvy.

[555-We-Tip]

Never good when an online, interactive game is best played solo. But here we are. I dislike what it’s become, but I try and make it fun by finding quiet lobbies where others are focused on their businesses too. 

 

It’s the only way I can enjoy it now. 

[egomaniac247]

11 hours ago, Big Molio said:

I don't think it is as bad as described either.

same here

[DarkReign27]

16 hours ago, Gemma_UK said:

I returned to GTA Online today after being away for a while. I felt a bit poorly so decided to snuggle up and play some GTA. I've been playing pretty much all day. Every single room i went in has lots of those MKII Oppressor's flying around and every single one of them is using the speed glitch. One room i went into had 8 of them in with all of them doing it. It isn't possible to kill them and they fly around terrorizing the rooms. A friend of mine who is a GTA veteran even struggled to kill them as they can outrun everything. Then there are players who abuse passive. I've seen passive abuse before but not on this scale. I sat and watched so many players in vehicles like Buzzard's, Oppressor's, Deluxo's, Tank's and so on, and they would all find the most vulnerable person they could, kill them, then instantly hide in passive before finding the next victim and repeating the whole passive abuse approach over and over. Unable to play the game because of all the toxic cheaters i spent a while following and absurving my GTA veteran friend around while he battled it out with other high rankers. I noticed that every single time he got the upper hand they would all use cheats and glitches against him to win. I lost count at the amount of times they managed to somehow shoot him through buildings and walls. They even manged to shoot us while we were inside my apartment. Then when spying on a bunch of high rankers going at it with the drone i spotted people who were able to fire RPG's without having to reload. They would somehow switch between standard RPG and homing RPG really quickly and this gave them the ability to fire constant barrages of rockets without ever having to reload. Then to top it all off i came across 2 paedophiles trying to hook up with underage girls.

 

I managed to capture some of these cheaters by recording the gameplay. I got conclusive video evidence against several players and decided to send it into Rockstar via a support ticket. However, Rockstar didn't seem to care one single bit. They just replied telling me to report them in game (Like i didn't try that and you can only report 1 player at a time) and they closed the case on me. Unhappy with Rockstars reply i opened a second case explaning how i had managed to report some of the people in game but the feature doesn't allow me to report multiple people. There are so many people cheating that i need the feature to allow me to report more than 1 person at a time. Rockstar gave the exact same reply telling me to report people in game and closed the case. Rockstars replies tell me that they don't care about us and they only care about our money and having a high player base. They want as many people playing the game no matter how toxic they may be, even paedophiles!!!

 

Because of all this i've decided to quit GTA and boycott future Rockstar titles. I got into gaming to have fun and relax. When the community is so toxic it is very frustrating, stressful and just not a fun place to be. I want to relax and enjoy my games, not get frustated and stressed out. That's not good for your health. 

Thats a Typical day in Gta on the Xbox version, the pc version I own I havent even touched because its real bad. Of course no actual cheating in Xbox yet but a lot of abuse of glitches and like ya said passive then they move onto the next until everyone is in passive or people leave, it feels like its not a game or something. Ive been playing it less now again. I'm still trying but ya it turns into this.

 

Tons of modded accounts with 3000 Kd ratio causing crap keep seeing them, reporting does nothing. 8000, 5000 ranks ya not suspicious at all... I sent a ticket into Tech Support them about removing guns from my Osprey since you cant for no reason and they replied with, we all follow the same rules there are no refunds for in game purchases purchases are final then said we sometimes buy things we dont like. Ya funny wont be sending anything to them again. I wanted an answer as to why I cant remove the guns but they put Solved so ya its done lol.

[Gemma_UK]

3 hours ago, DarkReign27 said:

Thats a Typical day in Gta on the Xbox version, the pc version I own I havent even touched because its real bad. Of course no actual cheating in Xbox yet but a lot of abuse of glitches and like ya said passive then they move onto the next until everyone is in passive or people leave, it feels like its not a game or something. Ive been playing it less now again. I'm still trying but ya it turns into this.

 

Tons of modded accounts with 3000 Kd ratio causing crap keep seeing them, reporting does nothing. 8000, 5000 ranks ya not suspicious at all... I sent a ticket into Tech Support them about removing guns from my Osprey since you cant for no reason and they replied with, we all follow the same rules there are no refunds for in game purchases purchases are final then said we sometimes buy things we dont like. Ya funny wont be sending anything to them again. I wanted an answer as to why I cant remove the guns but they put Solved so ya its done lol.

Yeah, seems to be lots of modded accounts running around. Rockstar obviously doesn't bother with them either. Some "friends" of mine have the "If you can't beat them join them" mindset and they now play the game in a toxic manner now too. They say they are going to buy modded accounts from now on as they are real cheap and be first to Red Dead 2 Online to turn that into a toxic place aswell in an attempt to put others off the game. Rockstar has created a monster.

Edited September 22, 2018 by Gemma_UK

[B7R]

11 hours ago, Remapped said:

pubilc gtao has become way to toxic, have only logged in for 32mins this week even the games npcs are toxic nagging spam calls

I feel sorry for newbies at this point, getting bombarded left, right and in centre about "Buy this property", "oh how about you buy the facility"  "Boss we could do with the CEO office garages" "Ron with he's hanger" . I don't think these people have seen any other AAA game at this point that's just as full of NPC nags as GTAOnline heh. 

 

My god

 

And to think there's been people here on and other sites previously that have encouraged this sort of behaviour and defend and say R* is doing no wrong.

 

11 hours ago, Jon Jon said:

You're better off not playing this toxic game.

Most of my Game stress comes because of the toxic players in GTAOnline. I've made a lot of progress on the game so stress there isn't a problem for me anymore but I worry for my shipments and stock and I shouldn't have to be the one moving around 20+ lobbies just to finally find a suitable one to sell it and hope some D!ckhard doesn't destroy it when I'm half-way through it. 

 

5 hours ago, deadx23 said:

I manage to avoid the toxicity of gtao maybe because I'm a loner/solo player I hardly interact with the public but I'm sure it's harder now with r* forcing us to do public jobs. I could get around that by solo public "room" but then I'm alone again but I guess it's best with friends if you got those

It's harder for me now because If I wanted a solo lobby I have to do tedious methods to get there. I use to just be able to change the year on my PS4 a few years ahead, wait 10 seconds then change it back again to what it originally was and I have a solo lobby but they have sine patched this method apparently. My PS4 is on wireless so I can't perform the cable method that people say to do to get yourself into a solo lobby and the time I did try the MTU 1500 method I felt like It took a lot longer to load into GTAOnline and there's still a risk that one person could join eventually. 

 

 

Edited September 22, 2018 by B7R

[Ice_cold2016]

To all the people who think that the OP is exaggerating. Here is some video of my time on GTAV tonight. And no this is not a bad sport lobby i'm a clean player. And i'm rank 589 and know the game inside out. I enter a room and there are 4, yes 4 MKII broomsticks and a Jet all working together to terrorize the room. Not only that they are using a thermal helmet glitch so all 5 are wearing thermal helmets. The 4 MKII broomsticks are all using the speed glitch. I soon spotted it as the second i entered the room they came for me. I went ghost but instantly realised they were all using a thermal helmet glitch and could see me. Then they launched a DDOS attack on me so my game was super laggy, stuttery and unplayable. She aint exaggerating in the slightest this is common.

 

 

Edited September 23, 2018 by Ice_cold2016