The B*tch & Moan Thread (Part 3)

[gamerMK2]

5 hours ago, WildBrick142 said:

on the other hand, i don't want to be seen as responsible for what potentially can end up being a major issue with everyone's ability to play the game in public lobbies

At this point, the worse, the better. Everyone should learn about Rockstar incompetence, may be cause a dump of their stocks or something. f*ck Cockstar, f*ck Take Two, f*ck Strauss Zelnick, expose these assholes with every chance you have.

[CommanderBlack]

46 minutes ago, gamerMK2 said:

At this point, the worse, the better. Everyone should learn about Rockstar incompetence, may be cause a dump of their stocks or something. f*ck Cockstar, f*ck Take Two, f*ck Strauss Zelnick, expose these assholes with every chance you have.

I agree with you at some point, we should do something about this like somehow sending a message but nothing crazy like vandalism on there buildings but something bigger than just making a post on twitter or a another social media site

[gamerMK2]

4 minutes ago, CommanderBlack said:

I agree with you at some point, we should do something about this like somehow sending a message but nothing crazy like vandalism on there buildings but something bigger than just making a post on twitter or a another social media site

Well, rendering whole PC population unable to play online sounds like perfect opportunity to draw some attention to the problem.

[CommanderBlack]

19 minutes ago, gamerMK2 said:

Well, rendering whole PC population unable to play online sounds like perfect opportunity to draw some attention to the problem.

Could be option but i think the risc would be to high even if the person/group is Professional to get a lawsuit or landing even in prison 

[VitoCorleone1992]

Idk what type of DLC we will get in the future, but i would say that there's a good chance that the "nightclub" type will appear again, since R* is so into the music industry with their own label. But it will be boring if the recipe is the same so far. R* should have make it a TBOGT 2.0, dancing mini-game, drinking mini game...wc visits , etc. I think they know that players didn't like the mechanics of the AH, the logic was expecting something better or even as good as TBOGT. Then, with the Music Locker, they went a step foward on that, at least you can interact a bit with with other player and dancing as a pair - even if the mechanic is nothing too much revolutionary, still no dancing mini-game...and at least they could let players dance with npc's, but no, not only the place is always empty, but you even could see one or other player there from time to time if at least you could dance with npc's - but they just gave a indirect sentence about that new feature in the newswire about the Music Locker, that a lot of people didn't noticed that they had now a new feature in the game. But it could be something fun and it's even fun if you get some friends and do like a themed party, like i did today with some friends. Since there's this neon outfits i gave the idea for us to go to the music locker (guess what, no one knew about this feature of dancing in pairs) and it was funny, we danced synchronized, we laughed, etc.

 

So, Rockstar, Bahamas Mamas next ok? And don't forget, dancing mini-game, drinking mini-game, other kind of mini-games if you think about some other idea, and also.........wc visits if you can.

This were us:

 

Edited May 6, 2022 by VitoCorleone1992

[needforsuv]

you know what we need?

Chameleon clothing

[SummerFreeze]

8 hours ago, Crateman said:

That samurai livery for the kanjo is in danger of being GTA+ exclusive , hopefully not...

I know you're opposed to cheating, but once the vehicle cloning feature comes to PC, would you consider it cheating to purchase a clone of a Samurai Kanjo?

[needforsuv]

11 minutes ago, SummerFreeze said:

I know you're opposed to cheating, but once the vehicle cloning feature comes to PC, would you consider it cheating to purchase a clone of a Samurai Kanjo?

probably wont let you 

 

it does check for gta+ exclusive stuff (at least for HSW upgrades)

All I want is a clean amazing hermes livery

Edited May 6, 2022 by needforsuv

[SummerFreeze]

33 minutes ago, needforsuv said:

probably wont let you 

 

it does check for gta+ exclusive stuff (at least for HSW upgrades)

OK, but does it check for liveries?

 

EDIT: I get the impression from the PS5 Duping thread in the vehicle section that "secret" liveries get copied.

Edited May 6, 2022 by SummerFreeze

[Rented]

10 hours ago, Crateman said:

That samurai livery for the kanjo is in danger of being GTA+ exclusive , hopefully not...

Yeah I personally think it would be, it was my first initial thought when they’ve announced the subscription. I can imagine the Sprunk and eCola bags falling into the same category.

It’s just a bit sus how the Tuners DLC introduced some of the most unique clothing items, that for whatever reason were never released(including a Halloween item). I’m just speculating but maybe these were all supposed to be part of GTA+ but they’ve had to delay the release of XSX and PS5 versions

[Mexicola9302]

I wish R* would undo the changes that were made to the Tuners cars, i barely used any of them since the "nerf". I rather use the Comet cabrio than the non cabrio version, haven't touched the Dominators, or any of the others. I only played one Tuners race since these changes, i used Calico lol, it still is king.

 

I wish just all advanced handling flags get removed, i wanna have fun with Ford RS200 clone too, or the Fiesta/Focus mix, and all other cars.

 

 It seems they just have fun, ruining the fun.

[Spider-Vice]

6 hours ago, VitoCorleone1992 said:

So, Rockstar, Bahamas Mamas next ok?

All the other stuff aside and your "obsession" with horny stuff (), given the Bahamas Mamas interior is already in the game I think it would be a pretty cool idea to just re-use it and bring it back. Could even add extra detail if they wanted given it's now such and old and likely unfinished interior.

[needforsuv]

29 minutes ago, Mexicola9302 said:

I wish R* would undo the changes that were made to the Tuners cars

who doesn't

I blame the memes.

Low grip is useless as is stanced. BOTH at the same time is dumb and those who don't do it shouldn't be punished for it.

[Crateman]

4 hours ago, SummerFreeze said:

I know you're opposed to cheating, but once the vehicle cloning feature comes to PC, would you consider it cheating to purchase a clone of a Samurai Kanjo?

technically is not cheating, right? 

[needforsuv]

37 minutes ago, Mexicola9302 said:

I wish just all advanced handling flags get removed,

The HSW ones can stay but the bouncy-engine and one that gives you more grip with max camber NEED TO GO.

[Mexicola9302]

1 minute ago, needforsuv said:

The HSW ones can stay but the bouncy-engine and one that gives you more grip with max camber NEED TO GO.

Yeah the camber in what weird angle the wheels are is just nonsense, irl it might help if there is a tiny bit of camber, but seriously not the way it is in GTA.

[basedsam9]

19 hours ago, boomboom5950 said:

probably, as much as we all want a new map, its not as easy as just porting the map over and calling it a day, the map will look dated, textures will need to be remade, new buildings will need to be added etc. and its probably not worth it for them cause they know they can get the same amount of players if they did something easier

You've got to be joking. If they announced an LC map expansion it would inflate the player numbers through the roof, which means more exponentially more sales. And with the whole GTA+ bullsh*t, they can easily paywall the entire expansion for a week before it officially comes out for those who are subscribed, which means: You guessed it, more money.

 

Practically half the work has already been done for them. All they have to do is retexture everything, maybe make the city look a bit different since we last saw it in 2008. Add in all the previous updates/expansions that we've had in LS ported over to LC like the businesses and nightclubs + missions and other modes into the city. Add in player homes, activities such as stores, strip clubs, etc, and then maybe new television and radio stations for added flavor. And then maybe add the new WTC building somewhere in the city.

 

Done. It's not the hard labor you think it is, and would probably take at least 1-2 years to finish.

Edited May 6, 2022 by basedsam9

[AleisterWeber]

16 minutes ago, basedsam9 said:

You've got to be joking. If they announced an LC map expansion it would inflate the player numbers through the roof, which means more exponentially more sales. And with the whole GTA+ bullsh*t, they can easily paywall the entire expansion for a week before it officially comes out for those who are subscribed, which means: You guessed it, more money.

 

Practically half the work has already been done for them. All they have to do is retexture everything, maybe make the city look a bit different since we last saw it in 2008. Add in all the previous updates/expansions that we've had in LS ported over to LC like the businesses and nightclubs + missions and other modes into the city. Add in player homes, activities such as stores, strip clubs, etc, and then maybe new television and radio stations for added flavor. And then maybe add the new WTC building somewhere in the city.

 

Done. It's not the hard labor you think it is, and would probably take at least 1-2 years to finish.

What you describe is a lot more work than it appears to be. 1-2 years? Think rather min. 3 years and with an extension which takes so much time and causes high costs it will probably not be a free extension as usual.

Therefore I think LC in GTAO is unrealistic.

[rollschuh2282]

23 minutes ago, basedsam9 said:

Practically half the work has already been done for them. All they have to do is retexture everything, maybe make the city look a bit different since we last saw it in 2008. Add in all the previous updates/expansions that we've had in LS ported over to LC like the businesses and nightclubs + missions and other modes into the city. Add in player homes, activities such as stores, strip clubs, etc, and then maybe new television and radio stations for added flavor. And then maybe add the new WTC building somewhere in the city.

 

Done. It's not the hard labor you think it is, and would probably take at least 1-2 years to finish.

you really are underestimating how much work that would be lol.

Cayo took around a year!
and it´s a small island with few buildings and such.
LC is much larger and requires MUCH more.
then there is also the improvements in tech.
like LC in IV used a grey simple spec map.
which turned into a colored one depending on what material it´s on.

so they would have to create 100s of those new spec maps, and then adjust all the models in the entire map to properly use them and make it look good.
and then some textures need to be improved, models of course as well.
etc etc.
and then they have to think what to change to make it seem like more than 10 years passed.
that is a lot of work.

and then they have to basically change the paths on LC.
sure they have the original .max files for them, but their tools changed quite a lot since then, so they have to adjust and modify every path.

which takes work too.
and THEN!
they have to add support for every content that is in Online.
like apartments, businesses, activities, stores, and then also new shows and stations.
that is a immense amount of work.

 

 

Edited May 6, 2022 by rollschuh2282

[fryday]

The PS5 version is really bugged!

 

everytime I set my spawnpoint in the nighclub, I join the server, fall into nothing under the map and then stand onto the airport field.

another time the game crashed, while joining into nightclub.

 

then ALL my heat seaking rockets are missing for the third time, after I bought them again 2 times.....

[basedsam9]

8 minutes ago, rollschuh2282 said:

you really are underestimating how much work that would be lol.

Cayo took around a year!
and it´s a small island with few buildings and such.
LC is much larger and requires MUCH more.
then there is also the improvements in tech.
like LC in IV used a grey simple spec map.
which turned into a colored one depending on what material it´s on.

so they would have to create 100s of those new spec maps, and then adjust all the models in the entire map to properly use them and make it look good.
and then some textures need to be improved, models of course as well.
etc etc.
and then they have to think what to change to make it seem like more than 10 years passed.
that is a lot of work.

and then they have to basically change the paths on LC.
sure they have the original .max files for them, but their tools changed quite a lot since then, so they have to adjust and modify every path.

which takes work too.
and THEN!
they have to add support for every content that is in Online.
like apartments, businesses, activities, stores, and then also new shows and stations.
that is a immense amount of work.

 

 

I think you're overestimating Rockstar's laziness. They wouldn't be continuing to make singleplayer games if they could easily just minmax their online games in terms of effort to profit ratio, they could easily just sit back and make low effort content and watch the money printers go. But with Cayo Perico, they pretty much proved their expansions only get bigger and better, which means making an entire city expansion isn't too out of the realm of possibility considering how much they stand to gain from that. They absolutely would do it if this is the same Rockstar that is still making SP games.

 

Besides, I'm pretty sure Tez2 leaked a screenshot of Rockstar themselves already having ported LC to GTA 5's engine in the game files sometime ago, proving they were going to do it but for some reason they still haven't released it yet. It most likely had something to do with last-gen being too much of a hinderance in terms of limitations, which is why they pushed out E&E so they can drop last gen entirely and focus on making bigger expansions without any limitations.

Edited May 6, 2022 by basedsam9

[AleisterWeber]

2 minutes ago, rollschuh2282 said:

you really are underestimating how much work that would be lol.

Cayo took around a year!
and it´s a small island with few buildings and such.
LC is much larger and requires MUCH more.
then there is also the improvements in tech.
like LC in IV used a grey simple spec map.
which turned into a colored one depending on what material it´s on.

so they would have to create 100s of those new spec maps, and then adjust all the models in the entire map to properly use them and make it look good.
and then some textures need to be improved, models of course as well.
etc etc.
and then they have to think what to change to make it seem like more than 10 years passed.
that is a lot of work.

and then they have to basically change the paths on LC.
sure they have the original .max files for them, but their tools changed quite a lot since then, so they have to adjust and modify every path.

which takes work too.
and THEN!
they have to add support for every content that is in Online.
like apartments, businesses, activities, stores, and then also new shows and stations.
that is a immense amount of work.

 

 

Yep, it's more like developing a completely new game than a DLC (in terms of effort).

Even the small details like the license plates, making sure that e.g. the mechanic doesn't spawn vehicles in LC that are in a garage in LS (at least not without extra costs), the companies would have to be duplicated, meaning that a NC in LS has nothing to do with one in LC and you have to buy both separately.

[rollschuh2282]

4 minutes ago, basedsam9 said:

I think you're overestimating Rockstar's laziness. They wouldn't be continuing to make singleplayer games if they could easily just minmax their online games in terms of effort to profit ratio. Which means making an entire city expansion isn't too out of the realm of possibility considering how much they stand to gain from that, that it would probably blow out their usual sales out of the water. They absolutely would do it if this is the same Rockstar that is still making SP games.

it´s a 9 year old game.
have you seen how unoptimized Cayo is?
while being just a small island.
now imagine them trying to do a much bigger map of a dense city with lots of peds and scenarios and activities.
the poor game would die.
would not be surprised if that was the reason they scrapped LC in 2016.

and then it would also require SOO MANY NEW MODELS!
bc...you can´t re-use LS cops, and people in thin shirts dressed for hot weather in a city which is known to be cold and such.

so yeah, i don´t believe we will ever see LC in V.
the best case scenario is them deciding to do it for VI

[basedsam9]

10 minutes ago, rollschuh2282 said:

it´s a 9 year old game.
have you seen how unoptimized Cayo is?
while being just a small island.
now imagine them trying to do a much bigger map of a dense city with lots of peds and scenarios and activities.
the poor game would die.
would not be surprised if that was the reason they scrapped LC in 2016.

and then it would also require SOO MANY NEW MODELS!
bc...you can´t re-use LS cops, and people in thin shirts dressed for hot weather in a city which is known to be cold and such.

so yeah, i don´t believe we will ever see LC in V.
the best case scenario is them deciding to do it for VI

It is a 9 year old game that has been ported to next gen with new improvements to the engine, thus offering little to no technological limitations for newer updates. I seriously doubt the base PS4/XBONE could handle both Cayo and Los Santos alone, forget the city expansion. But next-gen easily could, including an entirely new city on top of that. You've already seen how smooth Cayo runs on E&E.

 

They wouldn't have ported E&E to next gen if they weren't planning on doing something big with the game, and there has been evidence that Rockstar plans on pulling the plug on last gen support (i.e PS4/XBONE) after the release of the new version of the game. And with GTA 6 on the horizon, it seems appropriate for Rockstar to have one last hurrah with GTA Online before working on 6 full time.

 

Bear in mind they've only got a couple years before GTA 6 comes out, which means at least 1 or 2 more years of content updates, give or take. It makes sense.

Edited May 6, 2022 by basedsam9

[Mexicola9302]

They want more money not more players, there NEVER under any circumstances will be LC in current GTAO, just forget about it.

 

It would be way too much work adding it. It's not just textures, and some small tweaks here and there. They also would have to add new voices to pedestrians, do cutscenes for the new businesses, do this do that. It's just way too much work for such an old game.

 

Or would you want all the pedestrians and ppl in traffic to have the exact same lines spoken from GTA IV, well i wouldn't want that. Because it wouldn't fit in our time, it's still the year 2008 in the GTA IV map, ppl have regular cell phones, no smartphones, it's older cars, music, fashion and all that. The whole popculture is outdated in GTA IV, bringing this up to date is way too much work.

[Spider-Vice]

Any map expansions to current-era GTA Online will likely be like Cayo Perico, and even Cayo Perico I have a feeling was ported into GTA Online because it could be in GTA VI in some form. I doubt we're seeing large map expansions in the current GTA Online. The GTA Online shipping with VI, that's a different story.

[MGgames100]

34 minutes ago, basedsam9 said:

It is a 9 year old game that has been ported to next gen with new improvements to the engine, thus offering little to no technological limitations for newer updates. I seriously doubt the base PS4/XBONE could handle both Cayo and Los Santos alone, forget the city expansion. But next-gen easily could, including an entirely new city on top of that. You've already seen how smooth Cayo runs on E&E.

 

They wouldn't have ported E&E to next gen if they weren't planning on doing something big with the game, and there has been evidence that Rockstar plans on pulling the plug on last gen support (i.e PS4/XBONE) after the release of the new version of the game. And with GTA 6 on the horizon, it seems appropriate for Rockstar to have one last hurrah with GTA Online before working on 6 full time.

 

Bear in mind they've only got a couple years before GTA 6 comes out, which means at least 1 or 2 more years of content updates, give or take. It makes sense.

Key word you said yourself: Improvements.

They most likely rewrite and recompiled old scripts, improving them slightly, but this is still the same jank we got in 2013.

I strongly believe that freeroam LC would require new engine.

 

That being said, I personally could see a chunk of LC, most likely Algonquin as a mission/heist specific place, that's sorta freeroam-able, similar to Cayo.

 

As for them porting this game to PS5/XSEX, answered is simple:

 

[basedsam9]

26 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

Any map expansions to current-era GTA Online will likely be like Cayo Perico

I could see this as well. Nobody would mind this, I don't think.

 

32 minutes ago, Mexicola9302 said:

They want more money not more players, there NEVER under any circumstances will be LC in current GTAO, just forget about it.

More players = more money.

 

[Hotband]

On 5/3/2022 at 5:07 PM, Benny00002 said:

can get gta+ for free, but let not talk about hack  - rockstar very bad security, lazy etc 

much more in ps5 file - unreleased content/removed content/etc - look more later

 

On 5/4/2022 at 4:23 PM, Benny00002 said:

forgot say but under ps5/ inside RPF some files relate towards customization on police vehicles, such as custom light bars, painted interiors, scanners, custom output from scanner, new police siren, will find file again but was a lot settings, not sure if on PC version, but was under PS5/ inside a RPF

R* You had better not gagged ordered him...

[Lexiture]

We're playing GTA Online, not GTA V Online. And the introduction of GTA+, engine changes and future balance updates makes me believe they're planning something big for the near future (I'd bet for the december update). 

 

During these past few months I've seen an increase on the "GTA Online will get abandoned next year after VI so no more big updates" narrative, which is funny - and doesn't makes sense - to me. I always considered it as a live-service separated from their mainline titles (now it's being sold on next-gen as such, like ESO). And R* haven't said otherwise.

 

But whatever.