The B*tch & Moan Thread (Part 3)

April 26, 2022

5 minutes ago, needforsuv said:

technically, if all the physics and code is present... we could just use test spheres or cubes and debug textures for it all

Legit wtf are you talking about? If you don't know what are you saying, don't say it at all.

9 minutes ago, needforsuv said:

also, total new files is ~400MB TOPS so maybe 600MB of pending stuff has been nulled out/skipped by the launcher?

Like downloading a torrent and telling it to SKIP the files, except in this case, instead of padding files, we get placeholder/almost nil size files.

That's not how this works.

11 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

The problem with that theory is that there seem to be code changes between Gen9 and the current PC release (for example, sniper first person crash isn't fixed yet, reportedly, but it's fixed in Gen9) so they'd still have to handle two different builds on the code side. I didn't say they were adding it soon anyway Could be in the Summer for all we know and these placeholders will be there until then.

With readiness I meant changes to the file structure (new update2.rpf), some gen9 carcols stuff, etc. The rest yeah, it might be to trick the game for now.

What you're talking about it legit the last step when developing an update. The packages are split anyways, since PS, XBOX and PC use different extensions. The key difference is when developing an update. It gives devs much more wiggle room when all of the structures are in place for all of the platforms. Even tho Online runs like sh*t stuff like memory allocation and what not is important and is definitely taken into an account at the start of the development cycle, not really at the end. It's just easier to have those dummies in the files then to not have em.

I also wouldn't bet any money on this coming to PC in the next year or so, but when it will come all they'll have to do is add the models via patchday and new content is enabled.

April 26, 2022

2 minutes ago, ram_pete67 said:

Paused. And resumed. Now is just 1.355 GB left.

Interesting..PS5 version is around 514MB

April 26, 2022

Edited April 26, 2022 by Pedinhuh

April 26, 2022

6 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

Because the Rockstar Launcher downloads the whole depot, not just the difference. It was 500 MB for me on Steam. It is what it is, all of those files are dummied out on purpose, I'm not arguing this with you, the proof is in the pudding and on SteamDB, it's not 1 GB, that's just because the R* Launcher has no delta updates.

https://steamdb.info/patchnotes/8576438/

So R* Launcher is less advanced than Steam.

LOL

I just assumed it only downloads what's needed, or at most there isn't a 2:1 ratio between downloaded files and actual new stuff

maybe with normal patches this is just less noticable

ALSO

new vehicle filenames
s95
as expected:
ignus2

astron2

cyclone2

surprisingly includes the GT bit:
arbitergt

not sure where other existing car mods comes in... but probs in the patch folder when it comes

HANDLING DATA IS NOT BLANK

I REPEAT, HANDLING DATA IS NOT BLANK!

4 minutes ago, MGgames100 said:

Legit wtf are you talking about? If you don't know what are you saying, don't say it at all.

handling files.

we can 'replicate' with mods the car's handling and such

April 26, 2022

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Spoiler

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April 26, 2022

7 minutes ago, MGgames100 said:

What you're talking about it legit the last step when developing an update. The packages are split anyways, since PS, XBOX and PC use different extensions. The key difference is when developing an update. It gives devs much more wiggle room when all of the structures are in place for all of the platforms. Even tho Online runs like sh*t stuff like memory allocation and what not is important and is definitely taken into an account at the start of the development cycle, not really at the end. It's just easier to have those dummies in the files then to not have em.

I know all of this, and I know what you mean, my point is they regardless seem to intend on having the content of PC if they're even allocating resources for those files to be there, dummied out or not - I have a feeling we're trying to say something similar in different words. As it stands, the metadata in the game (content.xml) is even requesting files that don't exist yet, this is what I meant with "readiness", exactly what you just described by having the files there in the first place. I'm personally more optimistic about the release date though, don't think it's gonna be a year.

Looks like some are already excited at the files that *aren't* dummied out already too. :kekw:

Obviously the major changes will only be coming at the end as I'm sure there'll be much bigger executable changes, and if they include AMD FSR on PC like they do on consoles there'll have to be new DLL's and what now.

3 minutes ago, needforsuv said:

So R* Launcher is less advanced than Steam.

Yes, updates for RDR2 are also bigger than on Steam. It downloads individual depots and not just the binary changes.

April 26, 2022

13 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

Anyhow if you notice any new bugs on console (or even PC) or you see something's fixed, plop it down in the new bugs report topic!

For me, the game is "stuttering" frequently now. And my PC far exceeds the needed specs (not a humble brag but i9-12900k & 3080Ti). I wasn't seeing any of this stuttering when I played yesterday.

Edit: it's 6 AM and I haven't slept, just noticed the "plop it down in..." portion.

Edited April 26, 2022 by BrandonBTYB

April 26, 2022

Just now, BrandonBTYB said:

For me, the game is "stuttering" frequently now. And my PC far exceeds the needed specs (not a humble brag but i9-12900k & 3080Ti). I wasn't seeing any of this stuttering when I played yesterday.

missing files will do that

April 26, 2022

3 minutes ago, needforsuv said:

Handling.dat for E+E

I know you're excited about the few new Gen9 files we can read now but I'm not sure why you posted this in the bug reports topic, calm down a little :kekw: Moved here.

1 minute ago, needforsuv said:

missing files will do that

April 26, 2022

Installing the files on PS4.

Seriously, this sh*t surprised me, I wonder what this update is gonna bring to last gen.

April 26, 2022

8 minutes ago, Alpha 1122 said:

Interesting..PS5 version is around 514MB

2.5gb for XBSX. Interesting.

April 26, 2022

Just now, Pedinhuh said:

I wonder what this update is gonna bring to last gen.

Probably nothing as not even PC has any new content, just empty files. Probably security and bug fixes, could be to address the ballstorture stuff more deeply as Tez alluded to a few weeks back.

April 26, 2022

XBSX music bug whilst in a party has been fixed. Hurrah!

April 26, 2022

Remote play button mapping still don't fixed good job rockstar ps5 :))

April 26, 2022

Another thing that doesn't seem to be dummied out is cutscenes. Potentially the Hao stuff. The GXT files are there too.

April 26, 2022

6 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

Probably nothing as not even PC has any new content, just empty files. Probably security and bug fixes, could be to address the ballstorture stuff more deeply as Tez alluded to a few weeks back.

Aww...Figures, still downloading here.

April 26, 2022

Arbiter GT is a bloody 3 speed by default!

Astron Custom (7 speed) has WEAKER brakes by default (upgrade modifier isn't enough to make up the difference) compared to the normal astron, which would explain the slower lap time in non-hsw mode! (Everything else is the same, it seems... not sure about engine power... but ~~probs the same~~ NOPE Astron 2 has less power in normal mode as well) Also, astron 2 HSW transmission is a lie, it's the same as regular max transmission with the normal astron

Cyclone2 is the new grippiest Electric car, even grippier than the i-Wagen... that was fun while it lasted...

Ignus gun adds 50kg... NOTHING else. Brakes are less strong normal maxed out on the gun one, makes sense, as is the HSW transmission vs super on the regular ignus BUT more power is more power, who needs brakes?

S95 is a 6 speed stock.

Modkits

487 Astron2
486 ArbiterGT

483 S95

480 Cyclone2

474 Ignus2

HSW upgrade uses ICE slot

That's how you can mess about lol...

Edited April 26, 2022 by needforsuv

April 26, 2022

Btw, the "exc_" stuff doesn't seem to be exclusive/GTA+ related at all, there's a garage door in it :kekw:

April 26, 2022

1 minute ago, Spider-Vice said:

Btw, the "exc_" stuff doesn't seem to be exclusive/GTA+ related at all, there's a garage door in it

Maybe Executive?

April 26, 2022

3 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

Btw, the "exc_" stuff doesn't seem to be exclusive/GTA+ related at all, there's a garage door in it

HSW door in Vinewood to launch the time trial? I hadn't noticed whether it was updated (it was always openable iirc).

April 26, 2022

From Twitter, the new blips menus.

April 26, 2022

7 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

From Twitter, the new blips menus.

~~PROPERTIES?!?!?!?~~

~~WE CAN HIDE PROPERTIES NOW?????~~

~~OMFG I HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR THIS FOR YEARS!!!!!~~

~~AND ITS IN PS4 TOO!!!~~

~~Finally, I'm hiding everything and only keep player blips like I always wanted!!!~~

LMAO NO OF f*ckING COURSE WE CAN'T...

We can hide everything else EXCEPT our own properties even after this change.

What a waste of time...

Edited April 26, 2022 by Pedinhuh

April 26, 2022

Interstellar Transgender toy hasn't been removed... checking for the Drag Queens outside the clubs...

April 26, 2022

According to reddit they deleted the option to do the agency contracts on invite-only lobbies.

April 26, 2022

1 minute ago, smurfynz said:

Interstellar Transgender toy hasn't been removed... checking for the Drag Queens outside the clubs...

Also not gone, I checked. That is a Gen9 change, none of that is on PC yet. It's just dummy files. No major code changes.

1 minute ago, Lexiture said:

According to reddit they deleted the option to do the agency contracts on invite-only lobbies.

That was an issue on day one of release and they fixed it in tunables, if that's true it may have been a regression and not intended. The interviews for The Contract specified they made it soloable/allowed in solo lobbies on purpose. but it was broken day one until they fixed it. Basically the argument we all had here back then, then they fixed it. Maybe an older version of the code was pushed again? Lmao.

April 26, 2022

Can anyone check if the exotic exports bug is still a thing on Gen9 consoles?

April 26, 2022

Any changes to the RAC with the patch I wonder

April 26, 2022

14 minutes ago, Lexiture said:

According to reddit they deleted the option to do the agency contracts on invite-only lobbies.

I'm on a Agency contract right now on invite only session.

April 26, 2022

6 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

Can anyone check if the exotic exports bug is still a thing on Gen9 consoles?

I'm on PS5, I've delivered two cars from the Exotic Exports List and theyve both been crossed off the blackboard in the Auto Shop.

April 26, 2022

For some reason the Cyclone 2 has gearbox mods in the files...

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