The B*tch & Moan Thread (Part 3)

[Spider-Vice]

All of the new model files and textures that are in the Gen9 archives are dummy/stub archives, all 1 KB. So while the files are there, the content itself isn't yet.

[MGgames100]

2 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

Yeah, looks like this patch is readying PC for the Gen9 stuff. There are also references in content.xml (of \update\x64\dlcpacks\mpg9ec) to a bunch of files that don't exist and all car files are dummy. So it's definitely Gen9 readiness but it's not fully in yet.

Really, I'm going to bet you that those dummies are not placeholders that were put to prepare PC for the release, but for the convince sake. Devs won't have to switch between two versions when developing, the game thinks that the content is in the game (I bet you all of it is in just turned off in tunables), etc. I do think they're going to add the content sooner or later, but I don't think it was added with this patch to "readiness" the Gen9 content.

[needforsuv]

2 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

All of the new model files and textures that are in the Gen9 archives are dummy/stub archives, all 1 KB. So while the files are there, the content itself isn't yet.

 

5 minutes ago, Alpha 1122 said:

and what are they working on? 

they may hide the contents, but THEY WON'T HIDE the file names and strings


HA Metadata be damnned this is a GOLDMINE

 

  

1 minute ago, MGgames100 said:

Really, I'm going to bet you that those dummies are not placeholders that were put to prepare PC for the release, but for the convince sake. Devs won't have to switch between two versions when developing, the game thinks that the content is in the game (I bet you all of it is in just turned off in tunables), etc. I do think they're going to add the content sooner or later, but I don't think it was added with this patch to "readiness" the Gen9 content.

all we need is to fill the files out tho... and the tunables...

Edited April 26, 2022 by needforsuv

[Spider-Vice]

2 minutes ago, MGgames100 said:

Really, I'm going to bet you that those dummies are not placeholders that were put to prepare PC for the release, but for the convince sake. Devs won't have to switch between two versions when developing, the game thinks that the content is in the game (I bet you all of it is in just turned off in tunables), etc. I do think they're going to add the content sooner or later, but I don't think it was added with this patch to "readiness" the Gen9 content.

The problem with that theory is that there seem to be code changes between Gen9 and the current PC release (for example, sniper first person crash isn't fixed yet, reportedly, but it's fixed in Gen9) so they'd still have to handle two different builds on the code side. I didn't say they were adding it soon anyway  Could be in the Summer for all we know and these placeholders will be there until then.

 

With readiness I meant changes to the file structure (new update2.rpf), some gen9 carcols stuff, etc. The rest yeah, it might be to trick the game for now.

[needforsuv]

also, total new files is ~400MB TOPS so maybe 600MB of pending stuff has been nulled out/skipped by the launcher?

Like downloading a torrent and telling it to SKIP the files, except in this case, instead of padding files, we get placeholder/almost nil size files.

Edited April 26, 2022 by needforsuv

[Cavot]

I wonder if this patch included the PvP rebalances. Anyone check?

[MGgames100]

3 minutes ago, needforsuv said:

 

all we need is to fill the files out tho... and the tunables...

Yeah magically get the models from nowhere... How you wanna fill those files exactly?

[BakeWithMe1000]

Who cares about the next gen stuff for PC, i just hope they will fix their anti cheat (if they even have one)

[Spider-Vice]

2 minutes ago, MGgames100 said:

Yeah magically get the models from nowhere... How you wanna fill those files exactly?

Lol yeah that's gonna need a secondary update. From a quick look, there's nothing overly juicy in the files other than references to the new stuff in the content.xml for each new RPF (some of it missing), some gen9 specific files like carcols, the rest seems to be dummy files. But at this moment we have the Gen9 file structure, just most of it is dummy files.

 

Don't think there's anything exciting to look at yet.

[needforsuv]

1 minute ago, MGgames100 said:

Yeah magically get the models from nowhere... How you wanna fill those files exactly?

technically, if all the physics and code is present... we could just use test spheres or cubes and debug textures for it all

[Alpha 1122]

2 minutes ago, BakeWithMe1000 said:

Who cares about the next gen stuff for PC, i just hope they will fix their anti cheat (if they even have one)

Rockstar: Look at this dude LFMAOO

[ambi3nt]

2 minutes ago, Cavot said:

I wonder if this patch included the PvP rebalances. Anyone check?

Insurance for other players vehicles you destroy is back on PC (not sure for how long ofc).

[Alpha 1122]

4 minutes ago, Cavot said:

I wonder if this patch included the PvP rebalances. Anyone check?

I am wondering the same thing..Maybe they have added on the next gen patch? but not on PC..

[Spider-Vice]

3 minutes ago, needforsuv said:

also, total new files is ~400MB TOPS so maybe 600MB of pending stuff has been nulled out/skipped by the launcher?

No, they are dummy files on purpose. It could be so PC people don't leak Gen9 content that's not released yet, or so the file structure is matching for whenever the update comes as all the files are now properly referenced in the metadata including the GTA+ stuff (prop_exc).

 

Gen9 has more code changes, such as ray tracing etc, that will need a much bigger update including to the executable, and that's probably when we'll see those dummies become real files. For now, no need to cream all over the place as there's not much to see  

[Classique]

What I'm mostly interested about is if car speed is linked to FPS on PC now, as Rockstar somehow managed to separate those on gen9/PS5/XboxSS/X.

[Spider-Vice]

Just now, Classique said:

What I'm mostly interested about is if car speed is linked to FPS on PC now, as Rockstar somehow managed to separate those on gen9/PS5/XboxSS/X.

I don't think any of the code fixes have made it to PC yet given the sniper first person crash is still in. I have a feeling that'll be part of a bigger update and this is just a smaller one for now, which ended up including dummy Gen9 files. The update to add fixes like that, a new API for ray tracing etc will likely be something totally separate.

[smurfynz]

Epic updated now

Just now, Classique said:

What I'm mostly interested about is if car speed is linked to FPS on PC now, as Rockstar somehow managed to separate those on gen9/PS5/XboxSS/X.

Will check in a minute now that I have (Steam) (fast PC) and Epic (slow laptop) patched.

 

[Alpha 1122]

2 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

No, they are dummy files on purpose. It could be so PC people don't leak Gen9 content that's not released yet, or so the file structure is matching for whenever the update comes as all the files are now properly referenced in the metadata including the GTA+ stuff (prop_exc).

 

Gen9 has more code changes, such as ray tracing etc, that will need a much bigger update including to the executable, and that's probably when we'll see those dummies become real files. For now, no need to cream all over the place as there's not much to see  

Shouldn't Rockstar add a much more bigger change on the Ray Tracing just for PC? Like there should be a option of just more than Sun Reflection Ray Tracing right? 

[needforsuv]

2 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

No, they are dummy files on purpose. It could be so PC people don't leak Gen9 content that's not released yet, or so the file structure is matching for whenever the update comes as all the files are now properly referenced in the metadata including the GTA+ stuff (prop_exc).

 

Gen9 has more code changes, such as ray tracing etc, that will need a much bigger update including to the executable, and that's probably when we'll see those dummies become real files. For now, no need to cream all over the place as there's not much to see  

but download is 1GB, files is 300mb + 30 odd MB... + 50 odd for some exe

400MB tops

Edited April 26, 2022 by needforsuv

[Spider-Vice]

Just now, needforsuv said:

but download is 1GB, files is 300mb + 30 odd MB...

Because the Rockstar Launcher downloads the whole depot, not just the difference. It was 500 MB for me on Steam. It is what it is, all of those files are dummied out on purpose, I'm not arguing this with you, the proof is in the pudding and on SteamDB, it's not 1 GB, that's just because the R* Launcher has no delta updates.

 

https://steamdb.info/patchnotes/8576438/

[Crateman]

PC players finally getting some promising news 

[Spider-Vice]

Anyhow if you notice any new bugs on console (or even PC) or you see something's fixed, plop it down in the new bugs report topic!

 

 

[ram_pete67]

Im downloading 41.077 GB on ps4. Is that normal ? Version 1.41

[Alpha 1122]

1 minute ago, ram_pete67 said:

Im downloading 41.077 GB on ps4. Is that normal ? Version 1.41

PS4????

[Spider-Vice]

Is there an update on last-gen too then? We're definitely gonna have to wait for patch notes at this rate lmao.

[ram_pete67]

Just now, Alpha 1122 said:

PS4????

Yes. Downloading now. 

[Alpha 1122]

2 minutes ago, ram_pete67 said:

Yes. Downloading now. 

Hmm interesting but 41GBs? Restart ur download and check for update again..

[Insoluble Fiber]

E&E coming to last gen confirmed

[Pedinhuh]

THERES A UPDATE!!!!

 

And yes, on PS4!!!

Edited April 26, 2022 by Pedinhuh

[ram_pete67]

Paused. And resumed. Now is just 1.355 GB left.