The B*tch & Moan Thread (Part 3)

[Wurmy]

2 hours ago, Spider-Vice said:

It's also very region and timezone dependent, I pop into public sessions on PC sometimes and although I've found chat spammers and the like, it's been quite a while since I've been teleported/blown up/god mode'd, etc. As I said in the cheats topic though there definitely needs to be a good deep look into the PC anti-cheat at some point - but not sure anything super complex is gonna happen until GTA VI/O2.

I somewhat doubt it's even gonna happen for the next game. They put 3 games (4, 5 and rdr2) on pc with the same multiplayer type, all with such crappy anti cheat that it might as well not exist. They didn't even change much for rdr2.

[Nerfgoth]

6 minutes ago, Wurmy said:

I somewhat doubt it's even gonna happen for the next game. They put 3 games (4, 5 and rdr2) on pc with the same multiplayer type, all with such crappy anti cheat that it might as well not exist. They didn't even change much for rdr2.

 

If R* not changes anything for the the next installment for GTA6O it will just take a couple of days for the dev team at the mod central to update to work on that!

[mute!]

12 minutes ago, Wurmy said:

I somewhat doubt it's even gonna happen for the next game. They put 3 games (4, 5 and rdr2) on pc with the same multiplayer type, all with such crappy anti cheat that it might as well not exist. They didn't even change much for rdr2.

Good point. We for the most part gave them a pass with gta 4 multiplayer and thought they learned from it.

From matchmaking, the "hacking",  and overall unbalanced game play,  R* just doesn't know how to do online multiplayer right. Hopefully they hire people that do with gta 6. 

[rollschuh2282]

17 hours ago, Commander S said:

As for new interiors, remember how people found the full interior for Bahama Mamas in early 2015 (possibly earlier, even!), and we all assumed it'd open up as part of Heists? We're now seven years later - amazing to think that at this rate, GTA VI will come out, and that interior will have just gone to waste, because Rockstar Logic.

oh that is nothing.
there are so many interiors which were removed and are left on R*s server which went to waste.
like a cut interior was v_deviant in SP.
involved in a side mission for Michael with Magenta.

still some props remain of it with..."toys" and a couch protected with a plastic from...drops...

etc etc.
and so many more.
i think there are like 20 empty slots for interiors left in the day one files.
or more.

and even some which were used as a base for Online DLCs.
like the vagos clubhouse was used for the 2 floor biker clubhouse as a base.

was supposed to get added even had a new minimap made for it... but it got scrapped again.
at least they brought back the lost biker clubhouse with it.

[Killerman29]

3 hours ago, Mexicola9302 said:

Im serious, i delivered an export car, and suddenly that player was standing there, wearing the black catsuit and having a strap on. I mean wtf. I should have taken a screenshot i guess.

[Hazzardtohimself]

At the risk of continuing the GTA:Next speculating in the next DLC speculation thread... I think that there are three possibilities regarding multiplayer servers going forward: 

 

1) Rockstar takes the easiest route and thinks: "Hey, P2P worked for the first Online, so why change it?" 
2) TakeTwo tugs the reins and offers a free P2P service as above, and also a subscription-based dedicated server system (maybe a new Plus+ thing) with some actual anti-cheat. 

3) Satan skis home from work, takes his flying pig out for exercise, and then comes home to play on GTA with no P2P servers at all, and balanced crossplay between all platforms. With hair physics. And the Karin Snipe. And realistic steak. 

[Edward85]

people arguing about the date, we already have the date straight from Rockstar

 

they accidentally let it slip in a newswire then edited it out, though I don't remember that date, wasn't it tomorrow?

[Insoluble Fiber]

5 minutes ago, Edward85 said:

people arguing about the date, we already have the date straight from Rockstar

 

they accidentally let it slip in a newswire then edited it out, though I don't remember that date, wasn't it tomorrow?

today

although they recently changed it to 28th on the starter screens so 

Edited April 25, 2022 by Insoluble Fiber

[needforsuv]

  

On 4/21/2022 at 11:58 AM, needforsuv said:

from Current tuneables

 

 

 

"31FBFF3E": -261346873 (Wall test ride: Granger 3600 LX)

"C07314C4": 1532171089 (Middle test ride: Deity),

 

What we already know/have seen as part of test/podium/prize rides from contract dlc:

1141395928: Comet7/Comet S2 Cabrio

-619930876: Buffalo STX

-1527436269: Cinquemila - Feb 24 week

629969764: Astron - Feb 3 week

 

Older cars with no corresponding text

  Reveal hidden contents

579912970 is Warrener HKR

159274291 is Ardent

117401876 is OG Roosevelt

 

Also, the current specific tshirt unlock tunable is specific

  Reveal hidden contents

"AWARD_BLACK_HAWK_AND_LITTLE_LOGO_TEE": true,

 

Got another one "C07314C4": 461465043 (Jubilee),

Also, sweet, sweet BF Club tears soon...?

 

[SummerFreeze]

4 hours ago, needforsuv said:

How does the game NOT flag a whole bunch of explosions set off by one person at everyone's locations or grenades spawned tho?

Or chat spamming the same message in a short amount of time.

Because GTA Online is peer-to-peer and Rockstar servers only handle save data. So they don't register how many explosions went off, only that someone killed someone. Rockstar could for example introduce surveillance clients into peer-to-peer sessions to monitor suspicious actions, but that isn't exactly trivial to do. And once the cheat menu developers got wind of that, they could counter it, too.

[Tez2]

1 hour ago, SummerFreeze said:

Because GTA Online is peer-to-peer and Rockstar servers only handle save data. So they don't register how many explosions went off, only that someone killed someone. Rockstar could for example introduce surveillance clients into peer-to-peer sessions to monitor suspicious actions, but that isn't exactly trivial to do. And once the cheat menu developers got wind of that, they could counter it, too.

They do, but not exactly about explosions. Capturing data like that is what the metrics are for. Metrics capture what happens within a session. But Rockstar have to specify them to capture select data. Explosions may not be captured, but they would be if Rockstar has a metric for them.

 

However, the game relies on the clients themselves to send over the metrics. Therefore, some cheaters could disable specific metrics from being sent to slip under Rockstar's radar.

 

In that case, there's not much Rockstar can do other than relying on other clients for verification. Or do a server-side test run like having every client in a session send each metric to Rockstar regardless of whether the player did what the metric is for or not. And if a client refuses to properly send that metric, then Rockstar could figure out who's cheating and who's not. Yet regardless, such method could still be bypassed if the cheater catches what's going on. Since all he would have to do, afterwards, is enable the metric when it's time to verify his client and disable it right after.

 

Rockstar's P2P is much like Bungie's Destiny P2P. A hybrid approach. But obviously, by today's standards, game developers should be using dedicated servers.

Edited April 25, 2022 by Tez2

[needforsuv]

28 minutes ago, SummerFreeze said:

Because GTA Online is peer-to-peer and Rockstar servers only handle save data. So they don't register how many explosions went off, only that someone killed someone. Rockstar could for example introduce surveillance clients into peer-to-peer sessions to monitor suspicious actions, but that isn't exactly trivial to do. And once the cheat menu developers got wind of that, they could counter it, too.

Except saving your safe incomes and such seem to happen locally too, at least if you cut it off quick enough...

How does any peer accept all that random crazy BS as legit tho.

[Wurmy]

1 minute ago, needforsuv said:

Except saving your safe incomes and such seem to happen locally too, at least if you cut it off quick enough...

How does any peer accept all that random crazy BS as legit tho.

Because any validations cost resources and compute time, which is not infinte and can be used on other things. At least that's the decision that Rockstar made.

[Pedinhuh]

1 hour ago, rollschuh2282 said:

like a cut interior was v_deviant in SP.
involved in a side mission for Michael with Magenta.

still some props remain of it with..."toys" and a couch protected with a plastic from...drops...

I thought that was a cut Strangers and Freaks mission for Franklin?

 

Either way, yeah this game has a lot of cut interiors...And then there's GTA San Andreas with even more of those LOL

[Shadowfennekin]

8 minutes ago, Pedinhuh said:

I thought that was a cut Strangers and Freaks mission for Franklin?

 

Either way, yeah this game has a lot of cut interiors...And then there's GTA San Andreas with even more of those LOL

No, Franklin's involved the Megaphone

[Crateman]

Qabeta stopped updating 4 days ago and qalive 7 days ago, could this mean a rather sooner than later release of a patch or something else? 

Edited April 25, 2022 by Crateman

[VitoCorleone1992]

6 hours ago, Mexicola9302 said:

Im serious, i delivered an export car, and suddenly that player was standing there, wearing the black catsuit and having a strap on. I mean wtf. I should have taken a screenshot i guess.

Yes, you should have.

If we had some samples, we could have put them in the bonk computer to triangulate the position of the evil horny doer and catch him and give him a deserved bonk.  

[VitoCorleone1992]

OMG, YES! "Opressor MK III Exosqueleton - get a yellow & red paintjob variant with GTA+ subscription."
 

Edit: i wouldn't be surprised if R* give us something like this.

And under our mansion basement, a secret section where we would save our "Opressor MK III's Exosqueletons collection", 8M GTA$ each - shark cards, stonks.

Edited April 25, 2022 by VitoCorleone1992

[Crateman]

47 minutes ago, VitoCorleone1992 said:

OMG, YES! "Opressor MK III Exosqueleton - get a yellow & red paintjob variant with GTA+ subscription."
 

Edit: i wouldn't be surprised if R* give us something like this.

And under our mansion basement, a secret section where we would save our "Opressor MK III's Exosqueletons collection", 8M GTA$ each - shark cards, stonks.

 

[VitoCorleone1992]

14 minutes ago, Crateman said:

 

What? The game is full of meme things anyway. It could be a nice counter if then balanced with other stuff. Limit the number of missiles, limite the time you could fly with the suit before recharge (you had to me on the ground for 3 minutes for e.g.), if destroyed you could only call it after a 10 minute coldown, etc.

[Crateman]

6 minutes ago, VitoCorleone1992 said:

What? The game is full of meme things anyway. It could be a nice counter if then balanced with other stuff. Limit the number of missiles, limite the time you could fly with the suit before recharge (you had to me on the ground for 3 minutes for e.g.), if destroyed you could only call it after a 10 minute coldown, etc.

For me feels out of place on GTA, but people have different tastes...

[Xquic]

1 hour ago, Crateman said:

Qabeta stopped updating 4 days ago and qalive 7 days ago, could this mean a rather sooner than later release of a patch or something else? 

They mostly update qabeta at 17:00 UTC. We haven’t seen an update today which is surprising. I don’t expect a DLC in May or June btw. Earnings Call is approaching so we must hear something by that time.

[Zak Ras]

4 hours ago, rollschuh2282 said:

still some props remain of it with..."toys" and a couch protected with a plastic from...drops...

 

First thing that came to mind.

[VitoCorleone1992]

41 minutes ago, Crateman said:

For me feels out of place on GTA, but people have different tastes...

Well, it's not like that opressors i & ii and flying deluxos aren't are out of place too...
 

4 hours ago, Killerman29 said:

The innocence of a child...back in the day i couldn't figure why the two tips had the same shape... x)

 

Not that i'm into this stuff, but, i think that R* could already made some suits like this ones, even if just for the laughs, new lingeries, etc., for valentines day update, also, a new vintage car from the 30's, 40's packed with the xmas dlc to be release in valentines day, wouldn't do any harm, but they don't do anything new for valentines since 2016! Surreal.

[Crateman]

4 minutes ago, VitoCorleone1992 said:

Well, it's not like that opressors i & ii and flying deluxos aren't are out of place too...
 

The innocence of a child...back in the day i couldn't figure why the two tips had the same shape... x)

 

Not that i'm into this stuff, but, i think that R* could already made some suits like this ones, even if just for the laughs, new lingeries, etc., for valentines day update, also, a new vintage car from the 30's, 40's packed with the xmas dlc to be release in valentines day, wouldn't do any harm, but they don't do anything new for valentines since 2016! Surreal.

Deluxo makes sense in the Doomsday heist...depressor does not make any sense imo.

More lingerie...bonk 

[VitoCorleone1992]

5 minutes ago, Crateman said:

Deluxo makes sense in the Doomsday heist...depressor does not make any sense imo.

More lingerie...bonk 

I mean, makes sense in what? Weren't we talking about those stuff be out of place in terms of technology that doesn't exist? I was at least. Sure, the deluxos have a plot behind it, the opressors, well, kinda of too, the first 1 a government project as agent 14 told, the op mk ii, i guess bcz paige was bored and so created it, lol. But the most important factor is that those things aren't realistic, still they exist in the game, so adding an opressor mk iii exosqueleton suit, would just be another meme cash money grab that R* would release.

Yes, i know you also want more lingeries too, you horny. Bonk!

[Shadowfennekin]

I'd like the dildo cause it'd be a great weapon to go off radar and whack tryhards with.

"You like it up the arse? :3"

Them: "1v1 beach!"

[VitoCorleone1992]

9 minutes ago, Shadowfennekin said:

I'd like the dildo cause it'd be a great weapon to go off radar and whack tryhards with.

"You like it up the arse? :3"

Them: "1v1 beach!"

Back in the day they did put a hidden dildo into a police station, maybe that wouldn't happen today. In gta san andreas, there was also not only this purple dildo, but vibrators too with two variants i believe, i remember that one of them was in a trash pile in that village north of San Fierro.

[Spider-Vice]

How's expectations looking for the HSW Brioso this week? Feel like this might be the week as it's been a while.

 

Not like I can get it anyway until they introduce HSW on PC  

[MaddenedGhost]

4 hours ago, Edward85 said:

people arguing about the date, we already have the date straight from Rockstar

 

they accidentally let it slip in a newswire then edited it out, though I don't remember that date, wasn't it tomorrow?

Wait what happened now?