The B*tch & Moan Thread (Part 3)

[Nerfgoth]

38 minutes ago, mute! said:

I assume they are waiting to make as much money on consoles first before bringing stuff over to PC. We my get some info soon after the Sony free GTA Online deal expires on June 14th.

 

So that is maybe why they have not released it to pc! 

[Mexicola9302]

11 minutes ago, Nerfgoth said:

 

So that is maybe why they have not released it to pc! 

Of course it is, why else it always takes a year after a new Rockstar game has been released for consoles already to be released for PC. There is much less "pirating" done for console games: That means if they delay the PC version for a year, they make much more profit, because some ppl that own both a decent gaming rig and a console, will sometimes buy it twice, and ppl won't be able to download it from illegal sources until the Denuvo is cracked.

 

If Take 2 were good publishers, they would just release it to all platforms at the same time, like other publishers do, but no they are too greedy. Sure it's clever doing it like that, but it's like showing the middlefinger to PC players every f*cking time.

 

Im 100% sure the PC release of GTA VI, will be one year after console release!

Edited April 18, 2022 by Mexicola9302

[Hazzardtohimself]

We'll see what occurs on Thursday 28th April, when the Pluses get their new list of 'incentives' for the month ( + $500K + one week exclusive access to the Hao-ed Brioso R/A, probably). 

If Rockstar do what I think they'll do, they'll make noise about the bonuses and end the Newswire with the obligatory "Stay tuned for more information about GTA Online updates coming this Summer"... and that'll be it until the next month. 

 

As has been said (and I've previously waffled about), no information about the PC version will be forthcoming until after the free PS version is done at the end of June. 

[needforsuv]

1 hour ago, Nerfgoth said:

for information who has and has not GTA+

if gta+ come to pc, it'll be trivial to find out who in a lobby does, I assume...

 

based on their tunables and whatnot.

Because the LSCM Hao spec already has a handy checker for your gta+ status.

Imagine what modders could do...

Edited April 18, 2022 by needforsuv

[FrugalDangerMan]

18 minutes ago, Mexicola9302 said:

If Take 2 were good publishers, they would just release it to all platforms at the same time, like other publishers do, but no they are too greedy.

What makes you think they're greedy? The fact they released the same game on 3 generations of consoles over 9 years? Reworking single player content into online DLC? GTA+? The whole concept of the MKII and active encouragement to intercept other players attempts to earn in-game money legit?

 

Bah, you're nuts!

[Nerfgoth]

1 hour ago, Hazzardtohimself said:

We'll see what occurs on Thursday 28th April, when the Pluses get their new list of 'incentives' for the month ( + $500K + one week exclusive access to the Hao-ed Brioso R/A, probably). 

If Rockstar do what I think they'll do, they'll make noise about the bonuses and end the Newswire with the obligatory "Stay tuned for more information about GTA Online updates coming this Summer"... and that'll be it until the next month. 

 

As has been said (and I've previously waffled about), no information about the PC version will be forthcoming until after the free PS version is done at the end of June. 

 

People speculated the Brioso but what I think is more interesting is what they will get in May! Except for some T-shirts/hoodies no cars in the NG version are left so.

[Nerfgoth]

1 hour ago, Mexicola9302 said:

Of course it is, why else it always takes a year after a new Rockstar game has been released for consoles already to be released for PC. There is much less "pirating" done for console games: That means if they delay the PC version for a year, they make much more profit, because some ppl that own both a decent gaming rig and a console, will sometimes buy it twice, and ppl won't be able to download it from illegal sources until the Denuvo is cracked.

 

If Take 2 were good publishers, they would just release it to all platforms at the same time, like other publishers do, but no they are too greedy. Sure it's clever doing it like that, but it's like showing the middlefinger to PC players every f*cking time.

 

Im 100% sure the PC release of GTA VI, will be one year after console release!

 

Why change the formula? A lot of people have wish for character transfer and I´m board with them R* could easily sold two copies to people who want to continue on PC after they played on console waiting for the PC release!

[TheFroggmann]

8 hours ago, Big Molio said:

Not really a bitch and moan but a shame if true. I am reading on the interwebz that the drag queens outside of Cockatoos have been removed due to some transphobia or other? 

 

Come to think of it I haven't heard, "You f*cking asshole!" in falsetto since the migration to enhanced.. 

 

 

Today's B&M, actually yesterdays. 5 or 6 hours of playing and apparently the game never saved. Glad I wasn't grinding like I usually do.

Hopefully this means the BS points won't stick either. I wasn't being a kind person.  

[Cyoctane]

Well now that I watched The Batman I want something else, a Vigilante Street based off the new batmobile design. NOT weaponized, just with a rocket boost and bulletproof windows

[Killerman29]

wokestar games censoring his 2013 game, now i'm really worried about the next gta

[Nerfgoth]

9 hours ago, Big Molio said:

Not really a bitch and moan but a shame if true. I am reading on the interwebz that the drag queens outside of Cockatoos have been removed due to some transphobia or other? 

 

What?

[Nerfgoth]

8 hours ago, Hécate-II said:

 

For me the worst isn't that it is worthless, its how they will sell it on a platform(PC) that have been completly helpless for several consecutive years...(aka they're not competent enough to make a better anticheat for good), you know its like selling a heated swimming pool to someone homeless...

 

The game is totally crap with such amount of cheaters able to crash, using godmode fkg everywhere. Now I'm getting network error 8/10 I'm joining a pub lobby, and I know its not normal, its something similar to modkick, these little scumbags are filtering me while I'm loading. 

 

Not on PC but I´m having problem too with joining public lobby from the new menu! I shouldn´t need to fork out some cash just to load in to a invite or friend lobby directly from menu!

 

16 minutes ago, Killerman29 said:

wokestar games censoring his 2013 game, now i'm really worried about the next gta

 

Well if they are going for not hurt someones feelings they bother not release it! There is always one who sinks the party or getting butt hurt over frankly nothing!

[Big Molio]

53 minutes ago, Nerfgoth said:

 

What?

 

Here's one article mentioning it, but there are a few sources. I don't make any claim to the veracity of them however.

 

https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/gta-5-xbox-series-x-ps5-transphobic-content-removed-rockstar-games/

 

"Rockstar Games has seemingly removed transphobic content from the game. In previous versions, there were trans caricatures and "drag queens" outside of a place called Cockatoos, which is located next to the Los Santos Customs near Michael's house. The characters would spawn there and protagonists in the single player campaign would make inappropriate comments toward them that could be perceived as transphobic. These NPCs and the aforementioned dialogue drew criticism in recent years and was seen as outdated by some players"

Edited April 18, 2022 by Big Molio

[mute!]

10 hours ago, Big Molio said:

Not really a bitch and moan but a shame if true. I am reading on the interwebz that the drag queens outside of Cockatoos have been removed due to some transphobia or other? 

 

1 hour ago, Killerman29 said:

wokestar games censoring his 2013 game, now i'm really worried about the next gta

 

1 minute ago, Big Molio said:

 

Here's one article mentioning it, but there are a few sources. I don't make any claim to the veracity of them however.

 

https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/gta-5-xbox-series-x-ps5-transphobic-content-removed-rockstar-games/

 

"Rockstar Games has seemingly removed transphobic content from the game. In previous versions, there were trans caricatures and "drag queens" outside of a place called Cockatoos, which is located next to the Los Santos Customs near Michael's house. The characters would spawn there and protagonists in the single player campaign would make inappropriate comments toward them that could be perceived as transphobic. These NPCs and the aforementioned dialogue drew criticism in recent years and was seen as outdated by some players"

 

The game is clunky as hell and is starting to show its age! I swear, R* must fix how the player moves around in the next GTA, especially in tight corners like the submarine. The submarine mission where you have to retrieve the weapons is a pain in the a** because of how clunky the maneuvering is, especially while aiming at the enemies. It's also a pain in the a** trying to lineup your character perfectly to interact with an objective and press right on the dpad. It often takes me 2 or 3 tries to reposition my character perfectly for the game to realize I'm right in front of it..

[EkaSwede]

If we're going to get another Donk vehicle it better be named the Dinka Donka Donk.

[Hazzardtohimself]

12 minutes ago, EkaSwede said:

If we're going to get another Donk vehicle it better be named the Dinka Donka Donk.

 

Imagine if a proper Civic (Kanjo/Blista) were released but only as a Donk version... because Rockstar remembered that the Comet Retro Custom was a thing (and nobody at all complained that there wasn't a plain Comet Retro) 

Spoiler

 

[Arrows to Athens]

12 hours ago, Big Molio said:

Not really a bitch and moan but a shame if true. I am reading on the interwebz that the drag queens outside of Cockatoos have been removed due to some transphobia or other? 

I honestly don't know how that would even be classed as "transphobia", since drag queens aren't even trans. 

Edited April 18, 2022 by Arrows to Athens

[clinical oppression]

3 hours ago, Cyoctane said:

Well now that I watched The Batman I want something else, a Vigilante Street based off the new batmobile design. NOT weaponized, just with a rocket boost and bulletproof windows

I saw the movie last night , and hoping for that batmobile to make to gtao . I had a vigilante and sold it cuz I never used it anymore and never really liked the look of it .  I'd love to have that new beast though .

[DM_Tony]

I wonder what R* will do with LD Organics for the inevitable sequel to The Contract DLC. Whilst more Short Trip mission could be great, I think Lamar’s business could go:

 

1: Our player helps out an old friend by setting up a franchise for LD Organics, becoming another one of our ‘legit business’ (new purchasable property) where we do delivery missions and / or defending against gang attacks to keep production up.

 

2: Given the social media success after Short Trips, we will help LD by promoting his business further with freemode missions like the nightclub. No business, just call up LD to start the mission.

 

3: Similar to the Mafia 3 DLC (Faster Baby - Herbalism), we will create new strains for LD organics. Contact/Freemode missions for collecting new materials (seed & flavors), and then mix and match in LD’s lab whilst naming the new product.

 

Regardless, I can definitely see R* doing more with LD Organics as a side content add on to the next main piece of The Contract themed DLC.

Edited April 18, 2022 by DM_Tony

[Pol The Agent]

Maybe if we get a LD Organics centered DLC they could bring Snoop Dogg in, it might be music-centered but I ain't gonna complain about that one, the dude managed to get in FaZe Clan so I don't see why he wouldn't make it to GTA Online.

[VitoCorleone1992]

1 hour ago, DM_Tony said:

I wonder what R* will do with LD Organics for the inevitable sequel to The Contract DLC. Whilst more Short Trip mission could be great, I think Lamar’s business could go:

 

1: Our player helps out an old friend by setting up a franchise for LD Organics, becoming another one of our ‘legit business’ (new purchasable property) where we do delivery missions and / or defending against gang attacks to keep production up.

 

2: Given the social media success after Short Trips, we will help LD by promoting his business further with freemode missions like the nightclub. No business, just call up LD to start the mission.

 

3: Similar to the Mafia 3 DLC (Faster Baby - Herbalism), we will create new strains for LD organics. Contact/Freemode missions for collecting new materials (seed & flavors), and then mix and match in LD’s lab whilst naming the new product.

 

Regardless, I can definitely see R* doing more with LD Organics as a side content add on to the next main piece of The Contract themed DLC.

I wouldn't mind being a bussiness partner to LD Organics, despite i'm bored that we are always dwelling in the same bussiness models since bikers.

[Lord Bizkit]

23 minutes ago, VitoCorleone1992 said:

I wouldn't mind being a bussiness partner to LD Organics, despite i'm bored that we are always dwelling in the same bussiness models since bikers.

Tbh, businesses have vastly changed past nightclubs, tho its much subordinate to what is the actual core gameplay of those updates. 

[VitoCorleone1992]

1 hour ago, Brian X said:

Tbh, businesses have vastly changed past nightclubs, tho its much subordinate to what is the actual core gameplay of those updates. 

With AH we got the beginning of bussinesses with legit fronts. But still, when it comes to the ilegal part is always the same thing, either drugs or heists. And probably bcz R* don't want to touch in "sensitive" subjects - although idk why tf are, since we are in a criminal simulator game - such as CnC, and i will say that it could bring some protection rackets, extortion, that kind of bussiness; some hotels - very much non-explored in 8 years and even without checkpoint of other missions or bussinesses, so that makes it easier - could bring a front for a....... here comes the bonk....prostitution racket, making use of those rooms; Richard's Majestic Studios could be a front for....here comes bonk number 2 ...pirate p'rn movies that the vinewood industry didn't want to invest with, lmao; a food-chain bussiness, here ok, i can give you that, i don't think other ilegal stuff than selling drugs would make sense...you would have here a clucking bell shop, and you would deliver coke in a clucking bell van...a burguer shot, meth...a mr whoopee ice cream van, weed, etc.; a print-work for print legally a newspaper and the ilegal side...3rd bonk incoming...a men's magazine (i remembered about the GTA 3 mission that El Burro asks you to collect his scaterred magazines from the street); but going back to the hotels, they could also have an ilegal side like an ilegal gambling room; a taxi company where the ilegal side could have a ilegal fighting club in the basement and while you would be delivering the clients in the taxis, it could be a way to sometimes pick up a vip client - special missions - where you would bring them to their homes and then you would check out the area to rob those houses, making that a 2nd variant of the ilegal side of the bussiness.
So, all those ideas are things seen in previous gta's, i didn't came with something out of the box, so don't be "judgemental bonkers" just because some of you may be against some specific examples i said.

Edited April 19, 2022 by VitoCorleone1992

[Commander S]

3 hours ago, Arrows to Athens said:

I honestly don't know how that would even be classed as "transphobia", since drag queens aren't even trans. 

 

 

I'd call it less actively transphobic than just weak-ass, inaccurate parody, that suggests that whoever at Rockstar created those characters really didn't know what they were writing.

 

For one, they're labelled as "transvestite" in the PC files, "Drag Queen" in the Rockstar Editor, and then you've got Franklin and Michael with dialogue where they'll call out things like "keep taking those hormones!", which suggests transitioning. Those are three different things - it'd be like Rockstar doing some 'cutting-edge' satire on current youth trends, by poking fun at "those kids spending time on their mobile robloxes, playing TikTok battle royale..."  Particularly when RuPaul's Drag Race has been on the air since 2009, and was right there to parody - meanwhile GTA V's take on drag seems like something out of some dated '80s movie.

 

Personally, I don't think it's some major loss - if that's Rockstar's decision, then fair enough. Besides, if people are desperate to have the 'uncut' version of the game, they can just play both older versions of the game - which does undermine the move somewhat, when the Xbox One/PS4 version hasn't been changed (and is still live and actively supported, and played by millions of people!).

[Pedinhuh]

On 4/18/2022 at 10:38 AM, needforsuv said:

but expensive mods/conversion for HSW basically print/drain more money depending on which side you're on (R* or the one buying cars)

So did the Arena Wars cars, so did the Open Wheel cars, so did the Tuners, so did the Benny's lowrider and Tuner cars.

 

So it's not really a matter of money here, the game prints with each update regardless of how sh*tty and low effort the content of the update is...It's just that R* doesn't like to add a new concept to the game and expand and improve it overtime, instead they prefer to make said new content the focus of one or two updates and then move on to the next fresh idea and completely abandon the old content...At best they add them to the creator so we can make player-created jobs with it.

 

Oh and that reminds me...It's been almost one and half years and Cayo Perico is still not open to be used for any other job that is not the heist...Not even for simple deathmatches.

 

And all of that is what f*cking infuriates me.

On 4/18/2022 at 10:38 AM, needforsuv said:

Also, if they don't stop adding the cars to PS4/XB1, then they'd have to use HSW to get more speed instead of 2 sets of stats for cars.

 

But once it's PC and PS5/XBS only... I suppose I could see them just giving regular cars with silly speeds...

Well, I say we will see this in a year, there's no way they're keeping support to PS4/XB1 gens for long, the game has serious stability issues on the base consoles due to the sheer amount of useless sh*t added to this game over the years, specially in freeroam.

 

Once they go full E&E only, HSW will eventually become redundant because the of power creep that will just keep rising and will eventually catch up to those HSW cars, it's not a matter of if, its just a matter of when, and I'll say it will be soon.

On 4/18/2022 at 10:38 AM, needforsuv said:

You know what will be funny.

A HSW Donked SUV with the next contract, since

1. SUV fits the 'hip' theme

2. LS OG custom vibes

3. More speed and money put into cars is always good in r*'s mind.

That useless Baller ST they made for The Contract that absolutely NOBODY asked for might come into play here.

Edited April 20, 2022 by Pedinhuh

[Lord Bizkit]

1 hour ago, VitoCorleone1992 said:

With AH we got the beginning of bussinesses with legit fronts. But still, when it comes to the ilegal part is always the same thing, either drugs or heists. And probably bcz R* don't want to touch in "sensitive" subjects - although idk why tf are, since we are in a criminal simulator game - such as CnC, and i will say that it could bring some protection rackets, extortion, that kind of bussiness; some hotels - very much non-explored in 8 years and even without checkpoint of other missions or bussinesses, so that makes it easier - could bring a front for a....... here comes the bonk....prostitution racket, making use of those rooms; Richard's Majestic Studios could be a front for....here comes bonk number 2 ...pirate p'rn movies that the vinewood industry didn't want to invest with, lmao; a food-chain bussiness, here ok, i can give you that, i don't think other ilegal stuff than selling drugs would make sense...you would have here a clucking bell shop, and you would deliver coke in a clucking bell van...a burguer shot, meth...a mr whoopee ice cream van, weed, etc.; a print-work for print legally a newspaper and the ilegal side...3rd bonk incoming...a men's magazine (i remembered about the GTA 3 mission that El Burro asks you to collect his scaterred magazines from the street); but going back to the hotels, they could also have an ilegal side like an ilegal gambling room; a taxi company where the ilegal side could have a ilegal fighting club in the basement and while you would be delivering the clients in the taxis, it could be a way to sometimes pick up a vip client - special missions - where you would bring them to their homes and then you would check out the area to rob those houses, making that a 2nd variant of the ilegal side of the bussiness.
So, all those ideas are things seen in previous gta's, i didn't came with something out of the box, so don't be "judgemental bonkers" just because some of you may be against some specific examples i said.

Honestly,  I would love a protection racket business where it would involve you do sh*t on a hit-run basis, rather than steal something and take it back to your property. It should be paid similar to the agency payouts where you get paid paasively which the proportion is determined by how many stores you robbed in total (there would be a cap ofc). 
 

Obviously, since this is an illegal business, the money you earn should be far more exponential.  

Edited April 19, 2022 by Brian X

[needforsuv]

1 hour ago, Pedinhuh said:

So did the Arena Wars cars, so did the Open Wheel cars, so did the Tuners, so did the Benny's lowrider and Tuner cars.

Arena war is a lot of effort to make tho with the variants and parts, so is tuners (which are yet to be unbonked) and lowriders (which they do add now and again to with benny's).

 

HSW is just a generic AF livery with some maybe some uv mapping (if the car doesn't already have it, but some cars without liveries like the Dom GTX already do) and new coded perf parts and an often badly placed HSW spoiler. Not all new vehicles have to be HSW, just select ones.

1 hour ago, Pedinhuh said:

Once they go full E&E only, HSW will eventually become redundant because the of power creep

Yeah, but UNTIL then, I see having HSW to make things faster will be one of the draws they make for E&E over the PS4/XB1 versions.
Maybe 4 updates/2 years tops instead of 2/1.

Really, all they would have to do is add another car with decent handling and have a MAX power modifier of 400 or greater (like 500? 600? 800?) and you'd match HSW speeds and improve on their lap times...

 

1 hour ago, Pedinhuh said:

That useless Baller ST they made for The Contract that absolutely NOBODY asked for might come into play here.

I was thinking some new or generic SUV, but honestly, when it comes to donks, ANYTHING works.

Edited April 19, 2022 by needforsuv

[MekhiSkyline]

It would be nice if R* added a Ws6 Trans Am based Imponte Phoenix for the HSW upgrade.

 

Spoiler

And a G8 GXP

And Modern Vigeros that R* still needs to add (Both Gens)

5th Gen ZL1

6th Gen ZL1

And a 68-70 Roadrunner, cuz more Schyster vehicles.

 

 

Edited April 19, 2022 by MekhiSkyline

[VitoCorleone1992]

1 hour ago, Brian X said:

Honestly,  I would love a protection racket business where it would involve you do sh*t on a hit-run basis, rather than steal something and take it back to your property. It should be paid similar to the agency payouts where you get paid paasively which the proportion is determined by how many stores you robbed in total (there would be a cap ofc). 
 

Obviously, since this is an illegal business, the money you earn should be far more exponential.  

Many people forget or dont know, but there's a ceo challenge in the ceo menu where you and an associate (you need one to be able to start the mission) have to collect "protection money" during some time, like 5 minutes or so, the one who gets more money collected wins. Sure we don't have protection rackets and this most likely was something that was just a challenge to spare time back in the day where you didn't had many activities to do or even if R* wanted to make something more solid and complex about that, they lacked the resources or that would be something too much complex for the last gen consoles and/or deadlines.

[GTAQueenVI]

I hope RockstarGames Release this Van so we can buy it as I saw people in sessions have it using glitches