The B*tch & Moan Thread (Part 3)

[Big Molio]

I get chased back to my Kosatka whilst I am carrying heist prep, and panicking, I jumped from the Sparrow rather than try and enter the sub with it. But I didn't skydive, I actually dove like an Olympic high diver, only to splat onto the hull and die.

 

The player following me stole my heist prep cargo and swam to his own nearby sub whilst I could only watch helplessly having respawned on the beach lol

 

[EkaSwede]

11 minutes ago, Big Molio said:

I get chased back to my Kosatka whilst I am carrying heist prep, and panicking, I jumped from the Sparrow rather than try and enter the sub with it. But I didn't skydive, I actually dove like an Olympic high diver, only to splat onto the hull and die.

 

 

Oh I hate when that happens. Sure it can be cool when you WANT to do it, but when you're in a hurry, losing air control like that is the worst.

[GTAQueenVI]

On May 20 , They released a weak background update to hotfix a car dupe and after 1 hour a new workaround for that same dupe was released and Thats it They didnt patch anything & On June 15th Look at the long gap Between the dates !!! they released a background update to add 2 podium vehicles and also a weak hotfix to patch a car dupe and after 30 minutes, a new workaround was available poor and weak R* Developers ( The latest hotfix was to patch a casino old dupe ) 

 

With that they should’ve patched the casino godmode glitch that people use also for car dupes glitches ….

 

Now they released background update to hotfix and patch glitches every 20 days but before they was patching glitches every 1 week or every 5 days and now we have like 8 car dupes , frozen money , unlimited orbital spams , God mode & they dont care , all your care to update the podium list 

[partci]

Like... could you find a more complicated path to get to the boat?

[God-eater]

There is a Rank 500 out there who does not know about the Pac Standard bike teleport. I went against my normal instincts and stayed after I got dropped into one. Long story short, I get to the bikes, rest of the team is bogged down in the alley in a pointless gunfight, so I nuke the bikes, then myself. Rank 500 quits at the restart screen. I don't even understand how there can be anything in the game a rank 500 doesn't know. You guys should see my forehead - it's got a palmprint worn into it.

 

While I'm bitching about dumbf*ck randoms in OG Heists, Hosts, when you set your Setups to Easy, the message you send is "I don't care about you, your money or your time - I only care about getting myself to my payday". Not exactly engendering commitment from the team, you know? Besides which any decent and self-respecting player won't stay, leaving you with the desperate and/or inexperienced, which in turn kind of creates a self-fulfilling prophecy (because the usual excuse for Easy is 'I'm sick of randoms failing'). You get what you pay for, and Setups are no different.

 

[partci]

37 minutes ago, God-eater said:

... I don't even understand how there can be anything in the game a rank 500 doesn't know...

Answer a). modded ranks and answer b). they play... whatever else. Though playing races and death matches up to rank 500 seems ludicrous to me, but there are such people. I have some friends in my list for over a year and I can see them playing by A LOT each and every day, yet, the other day they sent me a PacSt finale invitation and I literally had to explain them everything and drag them by the ears to pull a W. It was a baffling experience.

[Rotorhead359]

2 hours ago, God-eater said:

There is a Rank 500 out there who does not know about the Pac Standard bike teleport. I went against my normal instincts and stayed after I got dropped into one. Long story short, I get to the bikes, rest of the team is bogged down in the alley in a pointless gunfight, so I nuke the bikes, then myself. Rank 500 quits at the restart screen. I don't even understand how there can be anything in the game a rank 500 doesn't know. You guys should see my forehead - it's got a palmprint worn into it.

 

While I'm bitching about dumbf*ck randoms in OG Heists, Hosts, when you set your Setups to Easy, the message you send is "I don't care about you, your money or your time - I only care about getting myself to my payday". Not exactly engendering commitment from the team, you know? Besides which any decent and self-respecting player won't stay, leaving you with the desperate and/or inexperienced, which in turn kind of creates a self-fulfilling prophecy (because the usual excuse for Easy is 'I'm sick of randoms failing'). You get what you pay for, and Setups are no different.

 

Ah yes, the good old easy mode fail. 100% agree you get what you pay for. If I join a heist (setup) and it's on easy, I will always:

1. Ask them to set it on normal/hard
2. Find a way to fail the mission without dying and tell them that's why they don't put it on easy.

 

As for point 2, I did some research for a CMM run. I usually do one of these:

Spoiler

Fleeca

• Scope out: alert the cops
• Kuruma: destroy Kuruma
• Finale: destroy Kuruma

Prison break

• Plane: destroy the plane
• Bus: destroy the bus
• Station: (only for docks team) destroy the Casco. I have never seen someone destroying the prison bus schedule.
• Wet Work: destroy the deposition, or let Popov escape
• Finale: walk out of bounds, or land your aircraft in the Alomo Sea

Humane Labs Raid

• Key codes: be a random who can't hold his fire while waiting for the contacts to arrive, or walk out of bounds
• Insurgents: destroy an Insurgent (like driving it into the Alomo sea)
• EMP: crash the Hydra or fly out of bounds with a Lazer (fly at ceiling altitude)
• Valkyrie: Either crash the valkyrie into the Alomo Sea shoot explosives at the house at the destination. It will say you killed your contact person.
• Deliver EMP: I won't spoil that for you, but it has something to do with randumbs and stealth. Alternatively, you can destroy the Insurgent by driving it backwards into the Alomo sea.

Series A

• Coke: haven't got that one to fail yet, maybe blow up a coke package with a sticky bomb
• Trash truck: destroy the truck, or run out of time
• Bikers: either do something that involves randumbs and stealth, or get a van destroyed
• Weed: get one of the vehicles destroyed
• Meth: destroy the tanker
• Finale: destroy one of the vans

PacStan

• Vans: alert a van driver, or the cops
• Signal: kill Avi by firing an RPG at his cabin
• Hack: destroy the white van, or destroy the black van before reaching your destination
• Convoy: destroy the truck while stealing it, repeatedly if you have to
• Bikes: destroy a bike
• Finale: walk out of bounds in one of the alleys, or near the bank. Or alert the cops at the beginning

 

 

1 hour ago, partci said:

Answer a). modded ranks and answer b). they play... whatever else. Though playing races and death matches up to rank 500 seems ludicrous to me, but there are such people. I have some friends in my list for over a year and I can see them playing by A LOT each and every day, yet, the other day they sent me a PacSt finale invitation and I literally had to explain them everything and drag them by the ears to pull a W. It was a baffling experience.

I had to deal with some examples of point B on my CMM run. Doing a CMM run with those was a mistake. They don't heist, just racing or adversary modes (basically the weekly double RP modes), and single CEO crates.

This taught me that RP grinding is meaningless, especially on PC. All it will get you is kicks from jobs and cheat accusations.

Edited June 16, 2021 by AirWolf359

[MayoChiki]

I f*cking hate how weapons are permanent on PC™ so you end up with this stupidly bloated weapon wheel that punishes you if you dare to complete side-objectives like the Dual Action Revolver, which wouldn't be a problem if the custom loadout option wasn't another piece of sh*t that is disabled half of the time while missions and heists love to disable it. Adding that to the incredibly slow weapon change exclusive from PC™ makes me miss the sub 30 fps during combat from console.

 

Not to mention R*ckstar's stupid new rule of "You cannot drop this weapon" ever since Arena Wars. Was that some kind of mechanism to prevent players from giving overpowered sh*t to low ranks? Because I don't see them doing jacksh*t when a modder gives me the Unholy Hellbringer and some other crap I have no use for. Bought the Assault Rifle for the Bunker shooting range challenges? Well f*ck you, keep it forever now.

 

It's so moronic how now I have to ask a modder to remove all of my sh*t just to get rid of half of the bloat weapons, which also means I can't have fun loadouts with weapons that aren't so powerful but fun to use (like the Combat PDW, I love that thing). Now I have to keep only meta sh*t and little else, thankfully half of the people I know on PC™ has mod menus up their asses (even though they suddenly have principles and "don't want to mess with others", bitch I'm literally asking you to take my guns away).

 

Was it really that hard to add an option for several loadouts? That way I can fight tryhards, do missions and test fun stuff without pulling a Firework Launcher if I'm lucky. Most of the time I just end up with no weapon and punching the air while the rapid fire NPC decides it's a good time to spawn

[Hécate-II]

1 hour ago, AirWolf359 said:

 

This taught me that RP grinding is meaningless, especially on PC. All it will get you is kicks from jobs and cheat accusations.

 

Once lvl 600 I started getting kicked from jobs very often and it got worse and worse until 1000. So you have to stick with peoples who value legitness, e.g a real big active crew, and completly forget about playing with random bots. For me the interest of new players in contact missions is they're part of various multipliers, you need them to increase payout a little, if you play solo the missions you get less than with 3 other persons...

[God-eater]

@AirWolf359, oh, with Series A - Coke & HLR - Deliver EMP you don't have to do anything, the randos will fail it for you. But I always bail on those two for exactly that reason. Same with Pac Standard - Vans; possibly the easiest Setup in the history of Setups, yet randos still manage to fail it far more often than not.

 

But since we're doing lists, here my list of OG Setups that I will bail on regardless of difficulty or rank of teammates:

 

Fleeca: all of it, because Scope Out is excruciatingly long since newbie host can't/won't skip the cutscene, same for Kuruma. Finale because newbie hosts can neither hack nor drill, so I have to wait for around 20 mins for the host to either finally get it or ragequit because they can't. 

 

Prison Break - Station: usually nope out because while I can solo my half, the other team usually finds a way to fail. Plus it's a long drive from the docks to Sandy Shores just to see that somehow the Station team has managed to get themselves killed.

 

HLR - Deliver EMP: You know why. We ALL know why. I can hear those f*cking klaxons just thinking about it.

 

Series A - Coke: randoms exercise zero caution, just rambo ahead till they die. 

Series A - Trash Truck: Coordination is beyond randoms. They insist on fighting every last Vago that shows up & either die or blow the timer.

Series A - Weed: a very long drive followed by numerous restarts due to either a Benson getting destroyed or a Benson driver getting killed because they mindlessly plow ahead and don't wait for the Technical to clear roadblocks. Hell, I've even died while driving the Technical because a Benson just slammed into us as we slowed down to take out that big group as you hit Harmony - sent us flying, gunner got thrown out & killed, I got killed while trying to flip the technical back onto its wheels.

Series A - Steal Meth: Everybody wants to be the one to get all the kills, and in the mad scramble to do that the tanker gets destroyed. Alternatively, everyone wants to be the one to drive the tanker, so there's a traffic jam of semis trying to shove the others out of the way, often resulting in the tanker getting flipped or destroyed.

 

Pac Standard - Vans: as above. Plus it's just boring.

Pac Standard - Hack: much like Coke, rambos need to get all the kills and get wasted by the OP NPCs. The exception is if I've got the only Vigilante and everyone else heads for the white van. Then I can clear the area before they arrive, and I drive the black van to prevent any silly notions of fighting it out with pursuing bad guys.

Pac Standard - Signal: just tired of soloing it. 

Pac Standard - Convoy: coordination and restraint are beyond randoms. Truck always gets destroyed.

Pac Standard - Bikes: Rambos die, or bail on a Lectro before the Lost are cleared, or get killed as they plow full speed into Lost vans.

 

Oh my gods, I've just realised I'm an unintentional finale-hopper

 

Edited June 16, 2021 by God-eater

[Hécate-II]

You know its not going to go smoothly...eventually managed to sprint to the truck at respawn and to hook the trailer.

First fail: guy literally fires a RPG at a NPC near the trailer...ok great RNG skill.

Second fail: we restart from beginning, killing is done, I was going to get the trailer with truck, random lvl 100 rushes under my wheels. No heavy vest of course, he was probably nearly dead from the gun fight with O'Neil. 

 

I was on Fortified and Headhunter cooldown and wanted to get some failing with randos feeling... 

Edited June 16, 2021 by Hécate-II

[God-eater]

41 minutes ago, Hécate-II said:

You know its not going to go smoothly...eventually managed to sprint to the truck at respawn and to hook the trailer.

First fail: guy literally fires a RPG at a NPC near the trailer...ok great RNG skill.

Second fail: we restart from beginning, killing is done, I was going to get the trailer with truck, random lvl 100 rushes under my wheels. No heavy vest of course, he was probably nearly dead from the gun fight with O'Neil. 

 

I was on Fortified and Headhunter cooldown and wanted to get some failing with randos feeling... 

 

Exactly what I'm talking about. Long drive, big fight, just to fail.

 

Also, I love how you blacked out the eyes of the players in the screenshot. Nice touch

Edited June 16, 2021 by God-eater

[Shiloh Comes]

On 6/15/2021 at 5:51 AM, partci said:

“Scientists have calculated that the chances of something so patently absurd actually existing are millions to one.
But magicians have calculated that million-to-one chances crop up nine times out of ten.”

― Terry Pratchett, Mort

 

You can prove anything with statistics.

 

82% of people know that.

[Kiethblacklion]

17 minutes ago, Shiloh Comes said:

 

You can prove anything with statistics.

 

82% of people know that.

 

9 out of 10 people agree that 1 person will always disagree with the other 9.

[God-eater]

1 hour ago, Kiethblacklion said:

 

9 out of 10 people agree that 1 person will always disagree with the other 9.

 

That's not true.

[Arrows to Athens]

Love this game.

 

[God-eater]

I swear to Jebus that if one more dumbf*ck host switches off of the reinforced armor on Aggressive DCH I'm gonna sh*t an eggroll. Like, why even bother with the prep if you're not going to use it? 

 

Lol, in the specific case that inspired this post, same host chose Main Entrance, armed us with SMG's and skipped Duggan prep. I didn't even bother getting up from the bar. As expected, they didn't make it out of the first room.

Edited June 16, 2021 by God-eater

[No Homing]

My cargobob still randomly blows up, smh.

[Lupo-Akane]

20 minutes ago, No Homing said:

My cargobob still randomly blows up, smh.

Yup, it's like a crapy little mini game if it's going to or not.... 

My B&M for today is the flipping cooldowns on VIP/CEO work come on you want me to play your game but then you have me waiting forever.

[DuduLima]

Almost 2~3 hours of pure bullsh*t while farming on Casino Heist today, finally made my 35M, but at what cost.

 

I met ...

 

- Some People which didn't made the Druggan Shipments mission, but have the guts to do the Heist in the hard mode with a SMG + Shotgun loadout in the Aggressive version of the Heist. (Even with the Sewers entrance).

- The "host" aka high-level kicker™ 'which let the service active for the people which use the quick job option, complains about it in the mic, kicks them but still lets the option turned on anyway.

- The infamous Paleto Bay arcade owner which have MK2 and etc ... but still complains about the location.

- The basic boy, which didn't make any optional mission, aka ... the one with the LV1 security card.

- Some people which doesn't know they can go via laundry to the elevator/stairs in the Bugstars entry ver.

- Some people which didn't use any snacks while running to the cars while carrying the gold.

 

God ... i made like 5 Bugstars approaches today (3 were first timers), 1 Gruppe Sechs, 2 Agressive approaches with a SMG/Shotgun loadout and 1 Stealth approach with a dumb team which didn't used the stun gun on the metal detector for 2 times straight.

 

Some People need to get their sh*t together, make a effort to your money, or make the Cayo Perico Heist.

 

27 min for 1.0M as host in hard mode + 4 players isn't great buddy; step your game up dude.

[gtafan26]

16 hours ago, God-eater said:

There is a Rank 500 out there who does not know about the Pac Standard bike teleport.

 

 

So get this, I am level 6**, with like almost 200 days played( been playing since 2013), and I am pretty sure I have no idea about the Pac Standard bike teleport.   Ive only done the heist like 2, maybe 3 times when it was released.

[Arrows to Athens]

Excuse me. What?

 

 

[Hécate-II]

Securoserv options(Ghost Org...etc) unavailable when exporting a car, is that new game feature? I saw peoples going off radar like 15 secondes after exiting my warehouse, names like Vexxizia, it scaried the sh*t out of me lol

 

[Nutduster]

52 minutes ago, Hécate-II said:

Securoserv options(Ghost Org...etc) unavailable when exporting a car, is that new game feature? I saw peoples going off radar like 15 secondes after exiting my warehouse, names like Vexxizia, it scaried the sh*t out of me lol

 

 

Probably a coincidence. Some free roam events disable these options, might have just been a timing thing.

[No Homing]

5 hours ago, Arrows to Athens said:

Excuse me. What?

 

 

Death barrier for a wallbreach. Actually kills gm users, lol.

[Xiled]

7 hours ago, Arrows to Athens said:

Excuse me. What?

 

 

Why you be wall breaching ya cheater!

 

[Taterman]

10 hours ago, No Homing said:

My cargobob still randomly blows up, smh.

 

It's happened to me a couple times too. Tonight I parked in my usually spot near my vehicle warehouse and went in to start an export. I heard the explosion and then the message "Your personal vehicle has been destroyed".

I was in a solo lobby. 

[Shiloh Comes]

Hitting right on the D-pad to pick up the cutting tool for Cayo at the lower construction site across the freeway from the Mile High.

 

Hit it at the wrong moment while next to a tool caddy, my character then spent literally nearly 2 minutes slowly walking into the toolbox and back again trying to get to the one containing the cutting tool. Eventually he got past it and picked it up, but short of quitting there was nothing I could press or do to get out of it. So I made some toast and sat and watched him dry hump the toolbox until he figured it out.  More amusing to watch than annoying.

Edited June 17, 2021 by Shiloh Comes

[Moewe]

On 6/16/2021 at 4:50 AM, Unknown Insider said:

On May 20 , They released a weak background update to hotfix a car dupe and after 1 hour a new workaround for that same dupe was released and Thats it They didnt patch anything & On June 15th Look at the long gap Between the dates !!! they released a background update to add 2 podium vehicles and also a weak hotfix to patch a car dupe and after 30 minutes, a new workaround was available poor and weak R* Developers ( The latest hotfix was to patch a casino old dupe ) 

 

With that they should’ve patched the casino godmode glitch that people use also for car dupes glitches ….

 

Now they released background update to hotfix and patch glitches every 20 days but before they was patching glitches every 1 week or every 5 days and now we have like 8 car dupes , frozen money , unlimited orbital spams , God mode & they dont care , all your care to update the podium list 

They dident fix every dupe glitch there were methodes that worked before the patch and after it. Atm i know 4 difrent ways how i could do it. The "patch" they made was a rly cheap try to stop the duping.

And its not even worth anymore to talk about the godmode. R* is just deleteing the job instead of fixing it. But it does take some time to patch it it were only 7 months, give them some time ik the trainee is working on it at least 24/7.

Edited June 17, 2021 by Moewe755

[Rotorhead359]

12 hours ago, Taterman said:

 

It's happened to me a couple times too. Tonight I parked in my usually spot near my vehicle warehouse and went in to start an export. I heard the explosion and then the message "Your personal vehicle has been destroyed".

I was in a solo lobby. 

+1. La Puerta Warehouse. Personal one in front always gets destroyed, so I'll get a Pegasus one from the helipad.

 

edit: I call Pegasus after I start the sale

Edited June 17, 2021 by AirWolf359