The B*tch & Moan Thread (Part 3)

[EkaSwede]

4 hours ago, suicidal_banana said:

 

Edit: Since when is there a cry reaction?! are you f*cking serious? its the most cancerous thing all these f*cking kids say while they grief you, and now its part of the forums? in the B&M thread of all places?!?! new low for GTAF.

 

If "cry" is a normal forum reaction now, is my usual in-game reaction too?

I think I have a hunch why it came around recently...

Edited November 7, 2020 by EkaSwede

[Eddie Van Rosenberg]

Nvm

Edited November 8, 2020 by Eddie Van Rosenberg

[Nutduster]

8 hours ago, suicidal_banana said:

Im getting pretty fed up with low levels kicking me from casino heist lobbys (a lot more since 1k)

IF YOU DONT WANT OTHER PLAYERS TO JOIN CLOSE THE F*CKING MATCHMAKING YOU SH*TTY PLEBS

 

 

To be fair to them, it defaults to Open and it's a race to set it to closed before the game invites randoms. My friends and I always close it, but also often have to kick randoms who joined before we had a chance to do so.

[Arrows to Athens]

9 hours ago, ilovefreebird said:

I tried killing 2 different griefers and missed both times, but never got the money back. 

As it should be.

[DuhBritishTea]

R* needs to replace the online tutorial with a flying school instead. Maybe that'll teach the noobs on PC who cannot fly to save their lives using a kb/m how to fly a damn plane. Either that or prevent these players from joining a heist/mission that involves flying until they can learn the basics.

 

On 11/6/2020 at 10:33 AM, V-The-Wonderman said:

No one seemingly wants to do the original heists these days.

My experience of spending 15 minutes of people joining and leaving immediately when they see it's not a finale. But when I host a casino heist the same players flock to my heist like a bunch of vultures. Love (hate) it.

Edited November 8, 2020 by DuhBritishTea

[theyorkshirejo]

When you buy an MC business for the first time, isn’t it supposed to give you a full bar of supplies when you do the set up?? Cos I just set up my business, got the text from LJT that my staff had arrived and production was a go, then drove to my business to find the staff there but both supplies and product completely empty

[hugh750]

6 hours ago, _jodielaura said:

When you buy an MC business for the first time, isn’t it supposed to give you a full bar of supplies when you do the set up?? Cos I just set up my business, got the text from LJT that my staff had arrived and production was a go, then drove to my business to find the staff there but both supplies and product completely empty

yep, your suppost to get full supplies.

[partci]

11 hours ago, _jodielaura said:

When you buy an MC business for the first time, isn’t it supposed to give you a full bar of supplies when you do the set up?? Cos I just set up my business, got the text from LJT that my staff had arrived and production was a go, then drove to my business to find the staff there but both supplies and product completely empty

Welcome to the MC business!

 

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Edit: WTF is wrong with people in this FN game? I was in a public-solo, selling my Meth. All of a sudden - explosions all around me. I don't know what it was - OC spam or Lazer or something more exotic, but my plane got destroyed, I managed to parachute out. Before switching the session I checked: there were TWO other people at rank 500+ in the current session that came out of nowhere. And I am pretty goddamn sure they were using the Ghost Organization glitch on top of everything, cause they were nowhere to be found on the map.

 

Like I said, I switched sessions and lost like 20k (even was a win, cause Assistant called me for a Special Cargo, so GG), but WTF is wrong with people in this FN game?

Edited November 9, 2020 by partci

[ilovefreebird]

On 11/7/2020 at 9:14 PM, Arrows to Athens said:

As it should be.

I disagree. I paid a large sum of money for a service labeled "Automatic," and it didn't work. I know everyone whines about the cannon, but this is a principle thing. 

 

What if you purchased a car, and it never arrived in your garage? I wouldn't respond to your complaint with "as it should be." If you pay for something, you should receive the item or service that was paid for.

 

[Rotorhead359]

1 hour ago, ilovefreebird said:

I disagree. I paid a large sum of money for a service labeled "Automatic," and it didn't work. I know everyone whines about the cannon, but this is a principle thing. 

 

What if you purchased a car, and it never arrived in your garage? I wouldn't respond to your complaint with "as it should be." If you pay for something, you should receive the item or service that was paid for.

 

Satellites cost money, you know. You get exactly what you paid for: an automated shot from above in someone's direction. Not the satellite's problem if they are in god mode or finds a way to survive. The game doesn't say anywhere that you are paying for an actual kill, just for an auto aim shot. The service is working perfecly as it is.

It was wrong to refund missed shots in the first place, because you could still kill another nearby player while your target is under the ground or somehow survives the shot.

I have seen youtube videos of people glitching a Deluxo under the map, fly under other players, and have their friends OC them repeatedly, killing the other player but refunding the shot because they officially missed their target. I'm glad that stuff is over.

 

 

Edited November 9, 2020 by AirWolf359

[ilovefreebird]

18 minutes ago, AirWolf359 said:

Satellites cost money, you know. You get exactly what you paid for: an automated shot from above in someone's direction. Not the satellite's problem if he is in god mode or finds a way to survive. The game doesn't say anywhere that you are paying for an actual kill, just for the shot. The service is working perfecly.

It was wrong to refund missed shots in the first place, because you could still kill another nearby player while your target is under the ground or somehow survives the shot.

I have seen youtube videos of people glitching a Deluxo under the map, fly under other players, and have their friends OC them repeatedly. I'm glad that stuff is over.

 

 

Whatever - I'm not going to get into it much more because everyone hates the OC so much that they'll just disregard what I'm saying, but think about this:

 

If there is no refund for a legitimately missed shot (the players in question were on the map and not God mode), what is the point of the automatic option? If it doesn't guarantee an automatic hit, why is it available and why does it cost more? A simple question. I have a feeling I'm about to rile up a bunch of people about how lame the OC is - that's not what I'm talking about.

[Talisman_83]

1 hour ago, ilovefreebird said:

Whatever - I'm not going to get into it much more because everyone hates the OC so much that they'll just disregard what I'm saying, but think about this:

 

If there is no refund for a legitimately missed shot (the players in question were on the map and not God mode), what is the point of the automatic option? If it doesn't guarantee an automatic hit, why is it available and why does it cost more? A simple question. I have a feeling I'm about to rile up a bunch of people about how lame the OC is - that's not what I'm talking about.

Because its auto-aim rather than manual?

[ilovefreebird]

10 minutes ago, Talisman_83 said:

Because its auto-aim rather than manual?

Are you asking me?

 

Why pay for automatic aiming if the shot will still miss its target?

Edited November 9, 2020 by ilovefreebird

[Rotorhead359]

5 minutes ago, ilovefreebird said:

Are you asking me?

 

Why pay for automatic aiming if the shot will still miss its target?

Why use the bloody OC at all and then complain you didn't get a kill? You come accross a bit salty about this.

There never is an absolute need to use the thing in the first place.

Edited November 9, 2020 by AirWolf359

[ilovefreebird]

1 minute ago, AirWolf359 said:

Why use the bloody OC at all and then complain you didn't get a kill? You come accross a bit salty about this.

There never is an absolute need to use the thing in the first place.

I have learned that it's an effective way to deal with someone griefing the lobby who won't allow you to kill them conventionally (using EWO and other various tactics to escape death). Many griefers will leave a lobby once they are killed, and I was trying to do my part to keep some peace (I spend much of my time helping lower levels).

 

I am only asking questions; I don't know what I've done to have you call me "salty," which I assume is a bad thing. I am also not complaining about not getting a kill; rather, I am wondering why a weapon with an option like this exists if you aren't going to get a refund when it works incorrectly. Like I predicted, my logical question is being overshadowed by hatred of the orbital cannon. Dislike it or not, this is a technical malfunction and it's unfortunate that I can't ask about it without feeling like I'M the jerk.

[Arrows to Athens]

49 minutes ago, ilovefreebird said:

Are you asking me?

 

Why pay for automatic aiming if the shot will still miss its target?

It's simple. 

 

Manual: Manually aim for the target yourself.

 

Automatic: No need to manually aim for the target; the aim is locked onto the target by default.

 

There is nothing in the game that says or implies that a kill is guaranteed, no matter the circumstance, should you choose automatic aiming. If someone dodged it by taking shelter under a tunnel, for example, then the OC "missed". God mode is an unintended exploit that is not supposed to be part of the game, therefore the OC doesn't know anything about 'God mode players'. So if the OC doesn't kill the player because they were in God mode and you didn't know, that's not the game's fault, neither is it Rockstar's. Well, maybe they're partly to blame for not fixing the God mode glitches in the first place, but I think it's a good idea that you do not get refunded despite missing. This prevents people from making unlimited attempts to kill a player. You should use it with caution under the acknowledgment that you must make that one shot count, and if you miss, then tough luck. I get that the griefer is annoying others in the lobby and is killing themselves to negate you a kill, but when you have to resort to the OC to get a kill on them, you're not really much better than them. Just ignore them and move on, or resort to different methods. 

Edited November 9, 2020 by Arrows to Athens

[hugh750]

why is it some randoms join your mc club (during a sale), so they can destroy your product?

i had it happen today, i took a chance and let anyone who wanted to join my club, i had one join.

i went to my counterfit cash business and started a sale (i got post op vans).

soon after i started to make my drops (he leaves my mc club and destroys my remaining products) it kinda left me confused.

then he kills me and leaves session, i changed sessions to try and save as much of my product (and blocked him).

i somehow ended up in his session and i retried my sale this time it was motorbikes and got destroyed by him again (i gave up).

and in another session i had a low level who i guess thought it was a good idea to attack me after i left my forged document business to restock it.

it ended up 3 - 1 when i wrecked him with my tank.

sorry about the story.

Edited November 9, 2020 by hugh750

[Arrows to Athens]

6 minutes ago, hugh750 said:

why is it some randoms join your mc club (during a sale), so they can destroy your product?

i had it happen today, i took a chance and let anyone who wanted to join my club, i had one join.

i went to my counterfit cash business and started a sale (i got post op vans).

soon after i started to make my drops (he leaves my mc club and destroys my remaining products) it kinda left me confused.

then he kills me and leaves session, i changed sessions to try and save as much of my product (and blocked him).

i somehow ended up in his session and i retried my sale this time it was motorbikes and got destroyed by him again (i gave up).

and in another session i had a low level who i guess thought it was a good idea to attack me after i left my forged document business to restock it.

it ended up 3 - 1 when i wrecked him with my tank.

sorry about the story.

Dude, you're like a punching bag for griefers.

[hugh750]

Just now, Arrows to Athens said:

Dude, you're like a punching bag for griefers.

it is kind of a dirty tactic though.

[Timsalabimbo]

On 11/6/2020 at 7:33 PM, V-The-Wonderman said:

No one seemingly wants to do the original heists these days.  For a someone who's 522 in rank, i havent actually hosted and got through them myself aside of the adorable little fleeca heist literally years ago. Till then, been sitting on Prison Break for literally another few years, occasionally try to get 

through those, but always some rando screws it up, someone quits, or on. Same old story. Tried again yesterday and today few hours ago, 45 

minutes of waiting in a lobby. Sure, part of me gets that interest and sure as hell the money lies in DCH and fourth heist is knocking on the door. I just got this obsession to do the heists in specific order they came in, so there is my bitching ticket of the day. 

 

Man, im having naughty dreams about week when at least the heist setups are triple or something, just to get people in and them out of the way...

 

On 11/8/2020 at 8:54 AM, DuhBritishTea said:

 

 

My experience of spending 15 minutes of people joining and leaving immediately when they see it's not a finale. But when I host a casino heist the same players flock to my heist like a bunch of vultures. Love (hate) it.

This coming saturday the global Daily Objective is to complete a Heist Setup. On those days, people are usually a bit more motivated to play those things, so try again then.

[Sil3ntWr4th_-]

6 hours ago, ilovefreebird said:

Whatever - I'm not going to get into it much more because everyone hates the OC so much that they'll just disregard what I'm saying, but think about this:

 

If there is no refund for a legitimately missed shot (the players in question were on the map and not God mode), what is the point of the automatic option? If it doesn't guarantee an automatic hit, why is it available and why does it cost more? A simple question. I have a feeling I'm about to rile up a bunch of people about how lame the OC is - that's not what I'm talking about.

The OC was designated for scums and tryhards who can't have no capabilities of utilizing guns, simply because they capitulate when they are losing or just tend to try and get an unconventional kill because they suck, I'm just pointing that out in case you were not aware. I have never used the OC not even once ever since the release of it.

Its like when you pay for BST there can be rare cases where the BST won't even spawn but yet the game still charges you 1000 dollars for which is non-refundable. If being refunded for missing a shot with the OC becomes a trend in GTAO, majority of the player base particularly the ones who interact with the OC glitch will definitely take advantage of it. 

 

Edited November 10, 2020 by PicklePrick

[Angry Akula]

4 hours ago, hugh750 said:

why is it some randoms join your mc club (during a sale), so they can destroy your product?

 

 4 hours ago, hugh750 said:

i went to my counterfit cash business and started a sale (i got post op vans).

There's your answer. Post Op vans bring out the worse in people.

[NULL AND VOID]

I missed at least two orbital cannon shots today because players like to suicide and switch to the RC cars/tanks etc etc.. I'm not mad about the money but damn how about a real explosion for a million dollars. 

 

 

[hugh750]

2 hours ago, Angry Akula said:

There's your answer. Post Op vans bring out the worse in people.

blame r* for that, i have no control over it.

Edited November 10, 2020 by hugh750

[partci]

I know I am bitching about this for some time, but here I sat and decided to show you why. Behold: The Path of the Merryweather (biker and Insurgent):

 

[secrecy274]

Well, I'm off to bad sport (again).

Have destroyed so many Oppressors over the last few days, mostly but not exclusively, in self defense. 

Just fought some snowflake that did nothing but came after me with an Oppressor, and when I killed him he teleported back to some business and grabbed a new one. Rinse and repeat.

 

Love this game sometimes...

 

 

At least my character looks pretty smug about it.

Edited November 10, 2020 by secrecy274

[Nutduster]

That's a bummer and the game really should not give you bad sport points or charge insurance for blowing up anything weaponized. And the Oppressor really sucks. Some days I do nothing but hunt down people using them to kill other players. My Stromberg and Akula see a lot of action this way.

 

That said--you need to get smart. Start using VIP work to avoid this stuff, if you're going to keep fighting and fighting them.

Edited November 10, 2020 by Nutduster

[secrecy274]

33 minutes ago, Nutduster said:

That's a bummer and the game really should not give you bad sport points or charge insurance for blowing up anything weaponized. And the Oppressor really sucks. Some days I do nothing but hunt down people using them to kill other players. My Stromberg and Akula see a lot of action this way.

 

That said--you need to get smart. Start using VIP work to avoid this stuff, if you're going to keep fighting and fighting them.

Oh, I know, however that locks me out of certain options I like to use.

[TheGasmeter]

Yeaaaaaaa think that's me done with vehicle export. It's a troll at this point. I need say nothing else. 

[Gunbladelad]

They should remove the "bad sport" points for destroying weaponised vehicles entirely.