The B*tch & Moan Thread (Part 3)

[No Homing]

@Fun 2 Do you know if R* can't patch the current GM glitch without a downloadable update?

[Boozey St John]

Well,

 

My game glitched and I lost all my cargo during a sell. Isn't that just terrific?

[Tez2]

37 minutes ago, No Homing said:

@Fun 2 Do you know if R* can't patch the current GM glitch without a downloadable update?

They did patch it.

Except they thought the glitch only works from Maze Bank West office (cheapest office).

The workaround was simply to do the glitch from other CEO Offices.

I was told R* is aware of it and planning to fix it. However, I believe since we are close to the release of a new update, they decided to focus on fixing the new update issues.

I'm pretty sure the fix is implemented with the new update.

[No Homing]

2 minutes ago, Fun 2 said:

They did patch it.

Except they thought the glitch only works from Maze Bank West office (cheapest office).

The workaround was simply to do the glitch from other CEO Offices.

I was told R* is aware of it and planning to fix it. However, I believe since we are close to the release of a new update, they decided to focus on fixing the new update issues.

I'm pretty sure the fix is implemented with the new update.

I thought it's still possible to do with MBW? Just a different method.

[Volganor]

15 hours ago, _jodielaura said:

Personally they don’t bother me because they’re easy and most of the time I’m just blasting my music.

 

10 hours ago, -LN- said:

This is what I do; nothing like cranking up some dance or electronica music on Spotify and filling up the warehouses, selling, or doing whatever.

Same here. I put on either some metal or atmospheric music depending on how I feel and just zone out completely. I think it was Ben Croshaw of Zero Punctuation who said that there's something cathartic about doing simple, repetitive tasks without paying much attention. It's interesting to see how different folks use Special Cargo as a way to sort of relax.

 

Besides, I compare the activity to building those huge sculptures made out of matchsticks for hours on end only to burn them all away in a couple of seconds for that quick rush and amazement. There's something very satisfying in seeing $2.2M enter your bank account five times in a row after around a week, week and a half of preparation.

 

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I should bitch about something so that this post is half on-topic, uhm...

 

...Benny's hasn't received new inventory in two years and a half and I'm still Dukes Custom-less.

 

Get on it, Rockstar. I'll send francesinhas from Porto city to your entire staff in exchange for my dream car.

 

[Big Molio]

Lap 5 of a 5 lap race on "Pier Race" and I have a comfortable 9 second lead, only for the game to freeze with the "BZZZZZZ" noise and close down back to the home screen.

 

Thanks a lot. 

 

To add insult to injury, when I start the game again I get the Bad Sport message for leaving early.

 

I despair with this game sometimes.

Edited July 6, 2019 by Big Molio

[-LN-]

2 hours ago, Volganor said:

Same here. I put on either some metal or atmospheric music depending on how I feel and just zone out completely. I think it was Ben Croshaw of Zero Punctuation who said that there's something cathartic about doing simple, repetitive tasks without paying much attention. It's interesting to see how different folks use Special Cargo as a way to sort of relax.

 

Besides, I compare the activity to building those huge sculptures made out of matchsticks for hours on end only to burn them all away in a couple of seconds for that quick rush and amazement. There's something very satisfying in seeing $2.2M enter your bank account five times in a row after around a week, week and a half of preparation.

 

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I should bitch about something so that this post is half on-topic, uhm...

 

...Benny's hasn't received new inventory in two years and a half and I'm still Dukes Custom-less.

 

Get on it, Rockstar. I'll send francesinhas from Porto city to your entire staff in exchange for my dream car.

 

Definitely! ☺

 

I know it's a multiplayer game, but I'm still an introverted type deep inside. I go through stages where I need lots of alone time; so, turning up the music, doing things at my own pace without anyone else around, and taking advantage of the generous promos are a wonderful way to unwind at the end of a long work day! The time goes by too fast though; it doesn't even feel repetitive or "grindy" sometimes.

 

I ❤ the Dukes! We definitely need a Benny's variant! There are still so many cars that could benefit from this as well; like the Picador, Mañana, Peyote, Emperor, and the list goes on. I'm one of those who happened to love the Lowrider DLCs, but I want to see more; I can't get enough of classic cars! ☺

 

 

[Commander S]

3 hours ago, Volganor said:

 

I should bitch about something so that this post is half on-topic, uhm...

 

...Benny's hasn't received new inventory in two years and a half and I'm still Dukes Custom-less.

 

Get on it, Rockstar. I'll send francesinhas from Porto city to your entire staff in exchange for my dream car.

 

 

 

It bugs me no end that R* doesn't bother with Benny's anymore - at best, they'll add a unique interior and some decal options to something at LSC, but that's a pale imitation of what you could do at Benny's.

 

Particularly the various lowrider mods - what was nice there was that most of the options were pretty standard across the board, so you might see a nice interior detail on something like the Voodoo Custom, and if you wanted a similar look but on the Buccaneer Custom, you could probably get something close.

 

It's efficient, too - allows the designers to come up with a bunch of interior/customisation assets, and then apply them to all eligible cars, rather than having to come up with unique parts for everything.

 

 

...aaand now I'm imagining a new wave of Benny's variants of the Dukes, Vigero, Picador, etc., handled not as lowriders, but as proper custom muscle cars, similar to how car customisation works in Mafia III, and I'm just setting myself up for future disappointment yet again... 

 

 

 

 

[Hazzardtohimself]

Now I remember why I stopped bothering with Smuggler's crate sourcing. 

 

1) Titan escort mission (ugh) - after spending an age flying behind the flying glacier and receiving my crate, I fly back to the hanger. I decide to try dropping the crate instead of landing in the corona (because the NPCs like respawning the second I start slowing down to land). Over the hanger, crate dropped... 

… 

… and it just hovers there. A few dozen feet up. Parachute open but not moving. 

I land (as the NPCs have vanished) and wait for a few minutes, and it continues to float. I grab a Hydra and hover up but cannot re-collect it. 

"Maybe if I take a pot shot at the parachute..?" I think after landing again. 

Bang. Pop. 'You destroyed the cargo'. 

F**k this. 

 

2) Howard stunt - easy, this one. Take off, bridges, bridges, more bridges, done. Cargo location received. 

Landed near the truck. 'You can destroy the truck to take the cargo or drive it back to the hanger'. 7.2 miles? Nope to driving. 

Grenade to you, Mule. Bang. 'You destroyed the cargo'. 

What the actual f**k?! 

 

On a different B&M, why the hell isn't the hanger included as a 'passive income' in the Nightclub? 

Well probably because they can't find any other damned collection-and-delivery-boys to do the grunt work that I have to do. 

[Volganor]

@Commander S, I absolutely agree and can even add a couple more points to your post:

 

The sudden Benny's hiatus is easily one of the biggest wasted concepts/assets that the game has. Let's go over why, shall we?

 

For one, Benny's gives a whole new life/second chance to cars that came way too early in the game's life and were bogged down by last gen limitations, lacking in customization as a result. Things like same-y looking interiors (the "standard muscle car interior" seen in both the Vigero and the Dukes, for example), similar engine sounds and low-resolution components - all can be solved at the snap of a finger by having those cars receive custom versions.

 

Second, we were talking about it in Dukes Appreciation Thread and I also saw similar wishes in its contemporary Vigero's Appreciation Thread, and it is: if you are unsatisfied about a particular thing with a specific car, Benny's has a high chance of having an option to solve it. Do you dislike how the Dukes' headlight covers don't quite fit with the grille mesh? Are you unsatisfied with the Vigero's Japanese-inspired mirrors? Would you like to apply a more unique interior option so that your car doesn't look like the hundreds/thousands of others that other people own? Simple: if that car has a custom version, take it to Benny's or your preferred parts supplier (office/arena mechanics) and get that solved.

 

Third, and I've already briefly touched on this, but... It's not easy to find an Elegy Retro Custom that is 100% like the one you may own. Same goes for the Itali GTB Custom or the Nero Custom, for example. The wealth of options available, especially in post-Lowriders:CC Benny's cars is so large and varied that the chances of finding a vehicle that is a carbon copy of yours is miniscule at best. Have it as classy and grounded as you'd like or as outrageous as you desire and there's still low chances of finding a twin of your car. In regards of muscle and other cars that never had the chance of getting a Benny's treatment? Yeah, good luck with that. I'd like to know that my Dukes is truly my own, as much as possible. I think that's the point of these live service games: to truly express your need to be an individual.

 

I've been promising and finally started working on a Dukes Custom concept. A fully-fledged one. So far I've spent close to four hours on it and am still not halfway done. Ideas just keep popping up and others that need to be discarded because they just don't fit. That is a testament to the untapped potential in the Benny's/Custom vehicle concept.

 

Let me also add, as a closer, that I am a fan of cars and car customization even though I am no expert in anything related to both of those. I just appreciate cars, how they work and how they represent the person who drives them. My point is that car customization has given me more play time in the game than any business or activity ever has - and more fun gameplay at that too. And this is me without being 100% into everything car-related. Imagine how Benny's is for true enthusiasts.

 

Benny's Original Motorworks and more inventory need to return. They absolutely do. And it's frustrating how they haven't... Yet. 

Edited July 6, 2019 by Volganor

[theyorkshirejo]

2 hours ago, Hazzardtohimself said:

 

On a different B&M, why the hell isn't the hanger included as a 'passive income' in the Nightclub? 

Well probably because they can't find any other damned collection-and-delivery-boys to do the grunt work that I have to do. 

It is. It comes under the same category as your special cargo. So if you own a hangar but no cargo warehouse, you could still accrue special cargo in your warehouse and vice versa 

[Handsome Jack]

Hate how some of these sale missions for the bunker are so unrealistic and purposely made stupid. "hurr hurr lets make these annoying as sh*t" Dumb cunts. Also I'm annoyed the God mode glitch doesn't wanna work for me because I discovered when you do it your assistant becomes killable and I've always wanted to kill that stupid bitch. Hoping there's a way to kill all the damn npcs in your NC too, motherf*ckers won't move and I'm sick of moving as slow as a damn snail on the dance floor.

[Commander S]

2 hours ago, Volganor said:

I think that's the point of these live service games: to truly express your need to be an individual.

A-ha - but that's just it, isn't it? That's what players get from persistent, dynamic games like this, absolutely - but what "live service" or "games as a service" means from a publisher standpoint is literally just "ongoing revenue stream", thanks to in-game purchases.

 

And when you look at stuff like Benny's from that perspective, you can see why things have played out in the way they have: it's less about giving players more ways to customise and personalise their experience, and more how to make some one-size-fits-all assets for existing car models (after all, none of the lowriders were all-new models - they were either existing GTAO cars, or reused models from GTA IV) to be able to turn existing content into something marketable as 'new', along with a bit of map tweakage to add a building that effectively serves as a paywall (upgrading to a Benny's model isn't cheap, after all!).

 

On top of that, with this kind of business model, you want to chase whatever trend is hot, to maximise player spending (which is why stuff that barely gets used, like the hairdresser, almost never gets any new stuff - because it's not worth the effort/expense to R*...) - so we got a rush of Benny's stuff while that was The New Hotness, and then ...Benny's got abandoned, most likely in favour of the new hotness: weaponised vehicles. Gimmick stuff with guns tends to sell really well, so R* keeps coming up with bigger and weirder things, to outdo whatever got added with the last update.

 

Meanwhile, Benny's is yesterday's news, and probably wouldn't get anywhere as near as much interest/return as a "Deluxo Mk.2" or whatever - and while from our perspective, it'd be nice to have a bit of variety, and for R* to dust it off and add new customisable cars, catering to smaller niches in the community isn't how you chase the big money.

 

 

...come to think of it, it's basically this evergreen point yet again, isn't it?

 

 

 

That's an older Jimquisition, too: over six years ago, before GTA V even came out. And the point applies to GTAO content just as much as to games in general, or groceries: "there is no perfect type of GTAO content - only perfect types of GTAO content".

 

The only difference here is that it probably doesn't matter if GTAO ends up chasing bankable trends right into a corner, because by the time diminishing returns kick in, R* can just milk RDO instead - or more likely, they'll have already announced GTA VI. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

 

/rant

[ilovefreebird]

9 minutes ago, Handsome Jack said:

Hate how some of these sale missions for the bunker are so unrealistic and purposely made stupid. "hurr hurr lets make these annoying as sh*t" Dumb cunts. Also I'm annoyed the God mode glitch doesn't wanna work for me because I discovered when you do it your assistant becomes killable and I've always wanted to kill that stupid bitch. Hoping there's a way to kill all the damn npcs in your NC too, motherf*ckers won't move and I'm sick of moving as slow as a damn snail on the dance floor.

This sounds like one of my drunken rants. Kindred spirits. Come have a beer with me and let's go destroy all the Oppressors in a lobby haha. It's gonna be okay!

[Handsome Jack]

7 minutes ago, ilovefreebird said:

This sounds like one of my drunken rants. Kindred spirits. Come have a beer with me and let's go destroy all the Oppressors in a lobby haha. It's gonna be okay!

Got a better idea, every time you destroy those flying f*ckers you take a shot. A nice a liitle drinking game for gta lol

[ilovefreebird]

12 minutes ago, Handsome Jack said:

Got a better idea, every time you destroy those flying f*ckers you take a shot. A nice a liitle drinking game for gta lol

 

R.I.P. liver, it was nice knowing ya! 

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

Friendly reminder that if you don't want the Oppresor Mk II nerfed in any way because "iTs A gReAt gRiNdInG tOoL!!!1" then you're entitled and selfish as f*ck.

 

It's not like we used to grind back in the day with a Buzzard or something.

[Black Terminator]

For the love god, Rockstar better have a fighting hand to hand system when it comes to death matches cause I am sick and tired of only hitting air, then the air to kill me just inches away. >.< 

[-LN-]

I selected to launch the 'Robbery in Progress' client job from the Terrorbyte. I wait for Paige to hack the cameras and as I'm panning through the list, I get stuck on a black screen with the sound of static. Then it clicks back to the main screen out of camera scan mode and I see a text from Agent 14 letting me know that my supplies have arrived. Afterwards, it immediately lags up and goes back to the black screen static once again, then it gets stuck on this screen with the timer counting down and no dialogue from Paige:

 

After a minute or so, it goes back to the black static screen yet again, and after it cycles to the random camera once more, I try and back out but am literally stuck, cannot back out at all, and have to force close the app.

 

Thanks, R*. Total waste of time and effort there! 

[Cowrangler]

On 5/21/2019 at 7:41 PM, DPRK said:

Not saying it is. and it's not just here, elsewhere there is this widespread culture of thinking getting killed by another player online is the worst thing in the world that can happen to you. even some of my friends online are like that, and I don't get why ppl can't brush it off like i do??

I really think it's funny you accuse other people of bitching because they are killed, and also presume it's a matter of ego for the griefee. Not one of the post I've read on here is about just getting killed, it's about being griefed whilst trying to make money in this godawful economy. I get the feeling you are the griefer who waits for someone to be in a cargo sell mission and flies over there to destroy it. I also get the feeling you're the GTAO K/D warrior who's ego depends on killing other players in a game that's more like the Sims than call of duty. Your ego is the threatened one, ain't it? When people send you mail calling you a no life after you destroy their shipment, they probably aren't too far off are they? 

[theyorkshirejo]

I was thinking about this ^ last night. Now, I play by myself 100% of the time so getting killed RARELY happens unless a random joins my session. 

Now I know people say “it’s the POINT OF THE GAME” and “the game TELLS you to do it”

 

but like just THINK about how messed up it is. 

Someone who work 5 days a week so doesn’t get as much time to play this game, grinds for hours and hours and hours to fill up a warehouse/meth lab whatever so they can make a sale and maybe buy a car that they’ve wanted forever that just happens to be discounted this week. 

You join their session and see they’re making a sale and hop on your magical bike and within 2 minutes have destroyed the work they put in over DAYS of grinding. 

 

And you DON’T understand why people get mad about it???

 

ok the “game told you to” but it is still YOUR CHOICE and if you genuinely don’t see what a f*cked up system that is.... well this is exactly why I’m a solo player. 

[Mmcd]

Weaponized vehicles ruined the game for me... 1)It made the game too much about free roam and K/useless/d 2)it stopped other projects from being developed, aka a tuners dlc and 3)it caused inflation to go way, way up so people looked for glitches more often and reduced real playing of things like missions and traditional heists to just about zero. Plus, look at the last 18 or so months. Weve had like 12 to 15 regular cars released and maybe 12 to 20 weaponized vehicles. Nice to know call of duty is alive & well. Greedy jacka$$e$.

Edited July 7, 2019 by Mmcd

[Prenihility]

Here's a good one. Release the f*cking DLC already, instead of building "hype" which you apparently need to be wearing special glasses to see. Because i'm not holding my breath for this DLC which has been the longest wait gap between DLCs by far in the game's entire history. Playing games in games (gambling) and probably containing no actual content (gameplay). This DLC is sounding like a treasure trove of f*cking gimmickery. Cockstar can suck dick.

 

11th-18th of July for a release date announcement and/or trailer? Are they f*cking high?

 

Release this gameplay-less sh*t DLC already.

[Nerfgoth]

2 hours ago, Prenihility said:

Here's a good one. Release the f*cking DLC already, instead of building "hype" which you apparently need to be wearing special glasses to see. Because i'm not holding my breath for this DLC which has been the longest wait gap between DLCs by far in the game's entire history. Playing games in games (gambling) and probably containing no actual content (gameplay). This DLC is sounding like a treasure trove of f*cking gimmickery. Cockstar can suck dick.

 

11th-18th of July for a release date announcement and/or trailer? Are they f*cking high?

 

Release this gameplay-less sh*t DLC already.

They hype came and went!

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

We've arrived at the point in which people will blame you for not getting a "solo public session" to sell if your sale gets destroyed instead of blaming the cunts who don't have anything better to do than ruin someone's day for peanuts and a pat in the back from R*.

 

Oh sorry for wanting to play an online multiplayer game with other players instead of turning it into Story Mode Plus or something.

[MaddenedGhost]

1 minute ago, Voodoo-Hendrix said:

We've arrived at the point in which people will blame you for not getting a "solo public session" to sell if your sale gets destroyed instead of blaming the cunts who don't have anything better to do than ruin someone's day for peanuts and a pat in the back from R*.

 

Oh sorry for wanting to play an online multiplayer game with other players instead of turning it into Story Mode Plus or something.

I mean I 100% get where you're coming from, but after all these years, I can't help but blame people for not getting solo lobbies, is it the intended way to play? no, but it is absolutely the right way to play, any business owner in this game should know by now that Rockstar rigged everything against the seller, it passed the point of it being a challenge to just flat out ridiculous and stupid.

[DrizzyDanny]

13 minutes ago, Maddened_Ghost said:

I mean I 100% get where you're coming from, but after all these years, I can't help but blame people for not getting solo lobbies, is it the intended way to play? no, but it is absolutely the right way to play, any business owner in this game should know by now that Rockstar rigged everything against the seller, it passed the point of it being a challenge to just flat out ridiculous and stupid.

Greatest thing for me today. Just doing business battles in a public lobby, had a small war with another player. Geezer calls me tells me my whole warehouse of weapons has been stolen. I fly to retrieve them, the guy i was fighting of course pursues and blows a near full warehouse worth of weapons up. Not even trying to sell and R* managed rob me 

[RaigeGames]

I was doing diamond shopping and someone came up and killed me while I was trying to escape. Why the f*ck do I spawn a mile away from the diamonds when I'm killed but when I kill the other player he spawns right next to me/the diamonds EVERY SINGLE TIME. This is why I hate pvp so much in this game, it's not structured fairly

Edited July 7, 2019 by RaigeGames

[DrizzyDanny]

19 minutes ago, RaigeGames said:

I was doing diamond shopping and someone came up and killed me while I was trying to escape. Why the f*ck do I spawn a mile away from the diamonds when I'm killed but when I kill the other player he spawns right next to me/the diamonds EVERY SINGLE TIME. This is why I hate pvp so much in this game, it's not structured fairly

I notice this at times. R* make making money much more difficult than trolling though, always have. Iv also noticed recently auto locking with weapons is hot and miss. Sometimes i can lock on no problem other times I having to shoot manually? Know some game modes changed it but never noticed it this bad in public lobbies before

[whywontyoulisten]

49 minutes ago, DrizzyDanny said:

Greatest thing for me today. Just doing business battles in a public lobby, had a small war with another player. Geezer calls me tells me my whole warehouse of weapons has been stolen. I fly to retrieve them, the guy i was fighting of course pursues and blows a near full warehouse worth of weapons up. Not even trying to sell and R* managed rob me 

Just change sessions. You lose a tiny amount of stock, but the raid is cancelled. Rockstar is a bitch to people who don't know anything about the game, but there are such easy ways to avoid getting "robbed".

27 minutes ago, RaigeGames said:

I was doing diamond shopping and someone came up and killed me while I was trying to escape. Why the f*ck do I spawn a mile away from the diamonds when I'm killed but when I kill the other player he spawns right next to me/the diamonds EVERY SINGLE TIME. This is why I hate pvp so much in this game, it's not structured fairly

Why don't you just play it in invite only?