The B*tch & Moan Thread (Part 3)

[Mas u Sees]

3 minutes ago, xjodielaura said:

Soz but “if they want to listen they will” is exactly the point. They DON’T want to listen. When was the last time they actually implemented a fix due to players high demand? There is a multitude of bugs/exploits in this game that they obviously know about but choose not to fix, instead they choose to fix players harmless outfit glitches. 

„The cooldown on calling a personal vehicle from the Mechanic has been reduced from five minutes to two“

Last Patch

[theyorkshirejo]

42 minutes ago, Mas u Sees said:

„The cooldown on calling a personal vehicle from the Mechanic has been reduced from five minutes to two“

Last Patch

Most people I’ve seen complaining about that have said the cooldown should be removed completely. Not reduced. Aside from weaponised vehicles obviously. Plus can’t people still spam call their MK II’s using the MC menu??

I just wouldn’t class that as a high priority. 

 

But they haven’t fixed people abusing the EWO or passive mode and as far as I can tell those are some of the biggest player complaints. 

 

EDIT: Isn’t it funny that they reduced that cooldown but didn’t fix the bug where if you request your vehicle and then die before it’s delivered, it doesn’t get delivered but there’s still a cooldown lol 

Edited June 24, 2019 by xjodielaura

[Mas u Sees]

2 minutes ago, xjodielaura said:

Most people I’ve seen complaining about that have said the cooldown should be removed completely. Not reduced. Aside from weaponised vehicles obviously. Plus can’t people still spam call their MK II’s using the MC menu??

I just wouldn’t class that as a high priority. 

 

But they haven’t fixed people abusing the EWO or passive mode and as far as I can tell those are some of the biggest player complaints. 

What is an EWO?

And well, what is there to fix about Passive? It’s not like they could do something about it, I remember there are some counter measures in place for players switching from Passive Mode and immediately attacking.

But there isn’t really all that much they could do?

4 minutes ago, xjodielaura said:

Most people I’ve seen complaining about that have said the cooldown should be removed completely. Not reduced. Aside from weaponised vehicles obviously. Plus can’t people still spam call their MK II’s using the MC menu??

I just wouldn’t class that as a high priority. 

 

But they haven’t fixed people abusing the EWO or passive mode and as far as I can tell those are some of the biggest player complaints. 

OH, you mean Easy Way out?

That‘s been fixed a WHILE ago, Easy Way Out does effect your K/D if yo have been attacked by another player.

No idea why people keep doing it though...

[theyorkshirejo]

1 minute ago, Mas u Sees said:

What is an EWO?

And well, what is there to fix about Passive? It’s not like they could do something about it, I remember there are some counter measures in place for players switching from Passive Mode and immediately attacking.

But there isn’t really all that much they could do?

EWO is Easy Way Out. Players spam it so that you can’t kill them and it doesn’t affect their KD (they get really obsessive about it)

These are the same people that abuse passive. They float around in a weaponised vehicle in passive, pop out of passive mode, kill someone and then go back into it so the person can’t retaliate. 

I’m not sure how they could fix it cos I don’t use it, personally. A higher cooldown maybe? A penalty for killing someone within the first few minutes of leaving passive? I don’t know, I just know a lot of people complain about it. 

[Mas u Sees]

As I said, EWO was patched in early 2018.

Easy way out DOES affect your K/D ratio.

Initially it bugged the K/D stat to become not symced, but that got fixed too

[theyorkshirejo]

13 minutes ago, Mas u Sees said:

As I said, EWO was patched in early 2018.

Easy way out DOES affect your K/D ratio.

Initially it bugged the K/D stat to become not symced, but that got fixed too

Hmmm. I stand corrected then! It’s been A WHILE since I’ve been in a public session lol 

[ilovefreebird]

36 minutes ago, Mas u Sees said:

 I remember there are some counter measures in place for players switching from Passive Mode and immediately attacking.

 

Uh, no there aren't. That's why players in Hydras and MKIIs will follow you in passive, pop out, and kill you.

 

Also, EWO does not affect a player's K/D. And that's why you'll see griefers doing it so freely.

 

Do you even play this game?

[MaddenedGhost]

1 hour ago, ilovefreebird said:

 

Uh, no there aren't. That's why players in Hydras and MKIIs will follow you in passive, pop out, and kill you.

 

Also, EWO does not affect a player's K/D. And that's why you'll see griefers doing it so freely.

 

Do you even play this game?

I really think it does, they changed it with SSASSS update, they made it so that it counts for your deaths but anyone can just throw a sticky bomb instead of using the menu and that would work as an alternative.

[ilovefreebird]

20 minutes ago, Maddened_Ghost said:

I really think it does, they changed it with SSASSS update, they made it so that it counts for your deaths but anyone can just throw a sticky bomb instead of using the menu and that would work as an alternative.

 

K/D is based solely on total players killed and total deaths by players. EWO does not affect it. I know that you really think that it does, but it doesn't. 

 

Edit: if you'd like to verify yourself - either EWO a bunch in a lobby and see what happens to your K/D, or add your total deaths to your "total deaths by players" and see if your K/D matches up - it won't.

Edited June 25, 2019 by ilovefreebird

[MaddenedGhost]

7 minutes ago, ilovefreebird said:

 

K/D is based solely on total players killed and total deaths by players. EWO does not affect it. I know that you really think that it does, but it doesn't. 

 

 

Ok, my bad, I don't really think, I know it does.

Patch Note from SSASSS update: 

Changes have been made to the way that Kill/Death ratio is updated in response to deaths resulting from use of the ‘Kill Yourself’ Interaction Menu option.

https://support.rockstargames.com/articles/360000767647/GTAV-Title-Update-1-43-Notes-PS4-Xbox-One-PC

Edited June 25, 2019 by Maddened_Ghost

[ilovefreebird]

Just now, Maddened_Ghost said:

Ok, my bad, I don't really think, I know it does.

Patch Note from SSASSS update: 

Changes have been made to the way that Kill/Death ratio is updated in response to deaths resulting from use of the ‘Kill Yourself’ Interaction Menu option.

https://support.rockstargames.com/articles/360000767647/GTAV-Title-Update-1-43-Notes-PS4-Xbox-One-PC

 

Great, now go do the math. Remember my last sentence? Is your K/D your total players killed divided by your total deaths by players? Or is it total players killed by total deaths by players + total deaths?

 

I'll give you a minute to calculate...

[Mach1bud]

3 minutes ago, ilovefreebird said:

Great, now go do the math. Remember my last sentence? Is your K/D your total players killed divided by your total deaths by players? Or is it total players killed by total deaths by players + total deaths?

 

I'll give you a minute to calculate...

He literally just proved you wrong. The patch notes say EWO affects K/D. Total deaths is irrelevant, as he is only talking about deaths resulting from Easy Way Out.

Edited June 25, 2019 by Mach1bud

[ilovefreebird]

32 minutes ago, Mach1bud said:

He literally just proved you wrong. The patch notes say EWO affects K/D.

I understand that, but it doesn't in-game. I'm not making this up. Anyone can verify it.

 

Edit: I'd like to cut this short. I've been drinking and playing tonight and I think I'm just mad at all the Oppressors. There was absolutely no need for my childish responses. I am probably wrong in my argument, and I'm sorry for acting like such a know-it-all jackass @Maddened_Ghost . You are probably right, and I apologize for being such a dick. Apologies to @Mach1bud as well. Hope you all have a good night.

Edited June 25, 2019 by ilovefreebird

[Agent 14]

Look Woody,

 

KD Warriors....

 

 

KD warriors everywhere.

Edited June 25, 2019 by Agent 14
In all seriousness I don't think it actually does what rockstar programmed it to do. If it did KD warriors griefers and tryhards wouldn't be using EWO.

[Arrows to Athens]

3 hours ago, Mas u Sees said:

As I said that's Support staff, they work out of call centers and well, have no real idea about anything that is not on their Spreadsheets.

What's the point of the feedback page if it's going to just refer us to some random third-party staff that doesn't even have the slightest clue as to what actually goes on in the game? You've got Rockstar Support for that. I'm on the feedback page, not on Rockstar Support.

[theyorkshirejo]

I play in sessions by myself so I know that I haven’t had an player deaths in a long time but I’ve EWO’d plenty of times recently and my KD hasn’t changed at all. 

 

Also so I didn’t mean to start an argument

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

It does even matter if taking the EWO after taking damage from another player reduces your K/D when:

 

- It doesn't give you the kill, which is a way better deterrent for said behaviour and...

- Most tryhards blow themselves up anyway, bypassing the whole thing?

 

You know what's even funnier? If you kill yourself (by accident or not) in a proper PvP mode like a Deathmatch, an Adversary Mode, even a 1 vs 1 Deathmatch on Freemode, you lose a point on the score. Why that hasn't been implemented in regular Freemode is beyond me.

[Standard Deluxe 59]

59 minutes ago, Voodoo-Hendrix said:

You know what's even funnier? If you kill yourself (by accident or not) in a proper PvP mode like a Deathmatch, an Adversary Mode, even a 1 vs 1 Deathmatch on Freemode, you lose a point on the score. Why that hasn't been implemented in regular Freemode is beyond me.

Because Rockstar logic. Though what you said is odd in how it's implemented here but not there.

[wizooord]

When I do contact missions, sometimes I can double tap the action button to perform the longer version of an action, like a dance, and sometimes I just CAN'T. I'ts random AF, I have no indicator of why that happens, I just always assume there's a cheater in the lobby. Annoying to say the least.

 

When I want to play with my female and then go back to the male, he will spawn with the default buzz haircut and I have to go to the barber every time to change it back to what it was. Annoying... To say the least...

 

In Repo - Do you even lift? I always take a cargobob first and rush to pull out as many cars as I can to an open road so the noobs can just get in and drive them to the parking lot, or at least pick them up without complications, yet too often they end up insisting on blowing some car up and failing...

 

In Repo - GTA today II, I always wait with my vehicle after delivering a car from the fist wave to see if anyone needs a lift to the second wave, yet most times the noobs will remain at the docks and just blow stuff up, fight with cops or f*ck around on the ship until the last noob comes way too late and when the second wave appears it's often too late to make it in time...

 

In Repo - RV even there yet? noobs often will get straight inside the brickade, move back and forth like an enraged animal in a cage, run over players that try and move the crap out of the way, summon 10 waves of NPC's in the process and end up destroying the brickade or dying...

 

Sometimes I could wait for ages on call for a premium race and stay on 1/8 or 2/8, then get sick of waiting, go on call for something else like a race, leave as soon as I see the 5/16 or whatever, go on call for premium and hit a 6/8 lobby... Like.. Why, you piece of sh*t matchmaking, why do you need my manual refresh to be effective?? ...

 

I want to rant more but remembering all this crap ^ made me too frustrated to think further...

[ilovefreebird]

5 hours ago, wizooord said:

In Repo - Do you even lift? I always take a cargobob first and rush to pull out as many cars as I can to an open road so the noobs can just get in and drive them to the parking lot, or at least pick them up without complications, yet too often they end up insisting on blowing some car up and failing...

The worst is when they get to that one car next to the swimming pool before you, and try to drive it through the tiny gate and end up in the pool.

[wizooord]

10 minutes ago, ilovefreebird said:

The worst is when they get to that one car next to the swimming pool before you, and try to drive it through the tiny gate and end up in the pool.

Especially when the route is so obvious. Hop onto the roof below that house, then on the roof below that one and poof clear getaway...

[enjoyingorc6742]

current B&M for me is that I have no one to help me sell or help me make some money. this sh*t f*cking sucks man. f*ck all my friends who've f*cked off, and f*ck the Ghilliemaster community.

[DentureDynamite]

^^ A lot of interest in GTA Online from original/earlier players is gone.

 

I used to be able to login at most any time and there would be 8-10 of my friends online; now I'm fortunate if there's 1 or 2... and I had a substantial list of friends--upwards of 200 or more.

 

Not surprising, when a significant amount of legitimate player-requested game play--time and time again--has been blatantly spurned by Rockstar.

Edited June 26, 2019 by DentureDynamite

[wizooord]

Been playing by myself as long as I can remember. Only interact with randoms. Most of whom are chinese. And not the good kind. The griefing or cheating kind. f*ck knows why I keep matchmaking with them.. Still haven't completed the last Benny's mission, or the mastermind challenge, but I accept my fate.

[enjoyingorc6742]

1 hour ago, wizooord said:

Been playing by myself as long as I can remember. Only interact with randoms. Most of whom are chinese. And not the good kind. The griefing or cheating kind. f*ck knows why I keep matchmaking with them.. Still haven't completed the last Benny's mission, or the mastermind challenge, but I accept my fate.

I could help ya. what system you on? I have PC and Xbox but my PC character isn't even level one yet

[wizooord]

1 hour ago, enjoyingorc6742 said:

I could help ya. what system you on? I have PC and Xbox but my PC character isn't even level one yet

I appreciate that but Iv'e got accustomed to playing by myself, for various weird reasons I prefer to just roll with it, thanks a bunch though! ♥ 

[Mas u Sees]

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20 hours ago, Arrows to Athens said:

What's the point of the feedback page if it's going to just refer us to some random third-party staff that doesn't even have the slightest clue as to what actually goes on in the game? You've got Rockstar Support for that. I'm on the feedback page, not on Rockstar Support.

That's the thing, you aren't.

 

Bugs are reported to Support.

 

Feedback to Gameplay is sent directly to the devs.

Only when you go to the FEEDBACK section, you are on the Feedback page.

The "Report a Bug/Issue" part redirects you to the Support Site.

However the Devs will never respond to your Feedback(they don't have the time, and better things to do), but they will certainly read it and consider it.

Edited June 25, 2019 by Mas u Sees

[TheFroggmann]

6 hours ago, enjoyingorc6742 said:

current B&M for me is that I have no one to help me sell or help me make some money. this sh*t f*cking sucks man. f*ck all my friends who've f*cked off, and f*ck the Ghilliemaster community.

You'll see them again in 2 weeks or whenever the casino opens. That's usually when I see old friends again within a week of a DLC drop. Then they complain they don't have any money for the new stuff... 

 

 

[theyorkshirejo]

6 hours ago, enjoyingorc6742 said:

current B&M for me is that I have no one to help me sell or help me make some money. this sh*t f*cking sucks man. f*ck all my friends who've f*cked off, and f*ck the Ghilliemaster community.

I’ve generally been in friends only lobbies lately cos I started a new character and she doesn’t own any businesses so I don’t need private public ones right now BUT if you’re on Xbox I’m happy to help you out or you can join my session and we can do some vip/biker contracts or whatever. 

That goes for anyone on here too (my GT is on my profile). I’m always in a session alone and you’re absolutely free to join and do whatever without fear that I’m gonna mess with you. 

[Arrows to Athens]

4 hours ago, Mas u Sees said:

 

the Devs will never respond to your Feedback(they don't have the time, and better things to do)

Let me guess: