The B*tch & Moan Thread (Part 3)

[Nihilist.]

3 hours ago, EkaSwede said:

I'm pretty sure the DD heists were less appreciated because of the very buffed up AI. Yeah, the regular heist also has quite the strong AI, but nowhere close to DoomsDay.

Absolutely, but not exclusively. Bulletsponge aimbots sure are one of the very main reasons I despise DD. R* doesn't understand the difference between "challenging" and "punishing". Same happened to the shooting range from Gunrunning, for example. It's unnecesarily difficult to the point it's not fun anymore.

But then, aside from this artifficially buffed difficulty, there are awful freeroam grind missions, super long and super boring driving stages, as well as pretty underwhelming payouts compared to amount of work, time and effort you need to put into each Act. Also, the story and characters are so obnoxious and cringeworthy, they would even stick out in Saints Row. Mission design leaves a lot to be desired as well, to be honest. Oh, oh, and you can't use your trusted heavy utility vest to make this sh*tfest a little bit more enjoyable.

[Lonely-Martin]

1 hour ago, hei3enberg said:

I treat heists as a highly coordinated co-op with more defined roleplay approach, that's all. I've joined random heists occasionally just for the laugh of hilarious failures and stupidity. All the serious heisting was done either for fun or for profit for those who are doing CMM.

Some of my best car crashes come when I'm toodling along in my Rhapsody and a couple of insurgents or batmobile are keen to trade paint. Stupid fun.

25 minutes ago, Nihilist. said:

Absolutely, but not exclusively. Bulletsponge aimbots sure are one of the very main reasons I despise DD. R* doesn't understand the difference between "challenging" and "punishing". Same happened to the shooting range from Gunrunning, for example. It's unnecesarily difficult to the point it's not fun anymore.

But then, aside from this artifficially buffed difficulty, there are awful freeroam grind missions, super long and super boring driving stages, as well as pretty underwhelming payouts compared to amount of work, time and effort you need to put into each Act. Also, the story and characters are so obnoxious and cringeworthy, they would even stick out in Saints Row. Mission design leaves a lot to be desired as well, to be honest. Oh, oh, and you can't use your trusted heavy utility vest to make this sh*tfest a little bit more enjoyable.

Yeah, I do feel the cadh rewards for the CMM challenges are underwhelming on DDH. Personally I don't mind the driving parts as I'm a car nut anyway, but you're not wrong on how they are quite tedious at times. Preps are daft, though the use of interiors is very welcome of course, and setups like the Chernobog one following the helicopter is just so crap. It's not flexible enough for randoms and is punishing, with a team is ok, but still so slow, lol.

 

The money though, way off really. Act 3's finale is a monster and some setups like the Avenger or the one where we sneak in and hack on act 1 is another tricky one. There's many real strong missions in there. Always felt the longer term rewards should have been a bit more there. And 3 CMM runs for a trophy when the original heist had none, talk about step it up!

 

Like the arena, a great idea but so flawed it hurt the mode and kills the positives. 

[EkaSwede]

I admit I was wrong on the reception of DDH. Even though the bulletsponge enemies with high accuracy, damage, sometimes unfair respawning (teleports behind you, nothing personell) and obnoxious positioning it's nice the heists let us do them with just 2 people. The regular heists (sans Fleeca) all required 4 people and that was the real difficulty in those heists. With just 2 people you can both get a large cut, although most Bogdan finales I pop is to help my friends get some money, but we do them sparingly.

 

But the bullet sponges took the cake for me along with the useless nightvision in Avenger setup where I can't see the stupidweather guys who sit in cover where they can shoot but I can't. Thank goodness for the sniper mk2.

[Geisterfaust]

I like the classical heists more for the better rewards, better balance and more down to earth approach. DD was a complete letdown and I've never replayed anything apart from doing 1 or 2 Bogdan runs to help some people. Missions like Chernobog escort or the one with invisible juggernauts are absolutely boring and I have more boring stuff to do IRL with a better results than to waste my time on this nonsense.

[Lonely-Martin]

10 minutes ago, hei3enberg said:

I like the classical heists more for the better rewards, better balance and more down to earth approach. DD was a complete letdown and I've never replayed anything apart from doing 1 or 2 Bogdan runs to help some people. Missions like Chernobog escort or the one with invisible juggernauts are absolutely boring and I have more boring stuff to do IRL with a better results than to waste my time on this nonsense.

The first time I saw that $10m, I was all in. At the time, it was pretty staggering and with the other $3m for the other bits added and the cuts, IGG felt like a real treat when those goodies arrived.

 

DDH's $3.75m seemed like peanuts, lol.

Edited June 23, 2019 by Lonely-Martin

[Bandersnatch]

Logged in for about 32mins last night... Soon realised why I don't play as much any more and logged off...

 

It's really not much asking for a few changes, that will make a massive difference . ..! I might actually start to purchase rockstar products again if they do that.... .......

 

 

 

 

[kcole4001]

29 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said:

Logged in for about 32mins last night... Soon realised why I don't play as much any more and logged off...

 

It's really not much asking for a few changes, that will make a massive difference . ..! I might actually start to purchase rockstar products again if they do that.... .......

 

 

 

 

It looks like they're starting to get the message since they've improved RDO, which is not such an attraction for a whole new crop of previously uninterested players like GTA always is.

Long time players need to feel appreciated as well.

[Agent 14]

Logged in today killed a mark 2 tryhard. Mark 2 Tryhard went on passive until his level 50 friend came in the lobby this level 50 guy had a KDR of 725. Him and his buddy talk about how they're some GTA "Gods" I go to my NC to restock on explosive ammo I leave my night club and he blows me up 3 times with the Khanjali I go on passive pick up my jet for some retaliation the level 50 in the khanjali teleports to his facility and won't come out because he saw me going for the lazer. So I kill his friend 6 time to get those kills back. He talking crazy inside of his facility but won't come out. Then he vote kick me. And I end up leaving on my own because I can't bothered with pussies like him.

Edited June 23, 2019 by Agent 14

[Mas u Sees]

46 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said:

Logged in for about 32mins last night... Soon realised why I don't play as much any more and logged off...

 

It's really not much asking for a few changes, that will make a massive difference . ..! I might actually start to purchase rockstar products again if they do that.... .......

 

 

 

 

What changes exactly?

How you submitted that Feedback ?

[Arrows to Athens]

11 hours ago, Mas u Sees said:

What changes exactly?

How you submitted that Feedback ?

Like the feedback even does anything. It seems like it's just there for show.

Edited June 24, 2019 by Arrows to Athens

[Mas u Sees]

3 hours ago, Arrows to Athens said:

Like the feedback even does anything. It seems like it's just there for show.

It actually does, as long as it isn’t too hard to implement they base their changes entirely on feedback

[kenmy13999]

41 minutes ago, Mas u Sees said:

It actually does, as long as it isn’t too hard to implement they base their changes entirely on feedback

So a nerf or rebalance of things is possible? 

[Guest Billy Russo]

Why do randoms not know how to fly a f*cking Titan by now?

 

I'm never ever doing A Titan of a Job ever again, f*ck that mission.

[ilovefreebird]

8 hours ago, Mas u Sees said:

It actually does

There's no proof that they have changed anything based on this feedback page.

 

But, in the chance that they actually listen, I hope my 30+ responses asking to remove the MKII Oppressor are seen.

[Mas u Sees]

1 hour ago, ilovefreebird said:

There's no proof that they have changed anything based on this feedback page.

 

But, in the chance that they actually listen, I hope my 30+ responses asking to remove the MKII Oppressor are seen.

Every single gameplay change R* makes is based on Community Feedback. But:

1) They aren’t going to relove a vehicle from the game

2) if you send in 30 times the same feedback you will get spam-filtered

Why do people act like they have ADHD?

Just send it in 1 time, and if they want to listen, they will.

[Crash2338]

Has anyone ever had an issue with a modder griefer? I had this one this morning that did not show up on the map, the player list and when I checked my log did not show there. He shows while he is shooting and then shows up at your respawn location right beside you. I don’t mind getting killed but don’t cheat to do it. The game said The Beast sprayed you. The name was no where to be found. I thought that was corrected in 2017. 

[ilovefreebird]

15 minutes ago, Mas u Sees said:

Every single gameplay change R* makes is based on Community Feedback. But:

1) They aren’t going to relove a vehicle from the game

2) if you send in 30 times the same feedback you will get spam-filtered

Why do people act like they have ADHD?

Just send it in 1 time, and if they want to listen, they will.

So, there is no proof they listen - like I said.

 

I didn't actually send it 30 times. Probably closer to 5. I was being hyperbolic and that's my mistake. I also submitted them at sporadic times, not all at once.

 

Sorry you think I have ADHD? Don't really know what to say about that one. Thank you for your diagnosis!

 

8 minutes ago, Crash2338 said:

Has anyone ever had an issue with a modder griefer? I had this one this morning that did not show up on the map, the player list and when I checked my log did not show there. He shows while he is shooting and then shows up at your respawn location right beside you. I don’t mind getting killed but don’t cheat to do it. The game said The Beast sprayed you. The name was no where to be found. I thought that was corrected in 2017. 

 

Sounds like he was the Beast - in Hunt the Beast, the Beast is off radar and much more powerful than normal. He may have been a modder as well, but sometimes people are too quick to throw out the M-word because they're getting killed.

Edited June 24, 2019 by ilovefreebird

[Mas u Sees]

1 minute ago, ilovefreebird said:

So, there is no proof they listen - like I said.

 

I didn't actually send it 30 times. Probably closer to 5. I was being hyperbolic and that's my mistake. I also submitted them at sporadic times, not all at once.

 

Sorry you think I have ADHD? Don't really know what to say about that one. Thank you for your diagnosis!

Read the Patch Notes of every single Update released for GTA Online and Red Dead Online

[Crash2338]

2 minutes ago, ilovefreebird said:

So, there is no proof they listen - like I said.

 

I didn't actually send it 30 times. Probably closer to 5. I was being hyperbolic and that's my mistake. I also submitted them at sporadic times, not all at once.

 

Sorry you think I have ADHD? Don't really know what to say about that one. Thank you for your diagnosis!

 

 

Sounds like he was the Beast - in Hunt the Beast, the Beast is off radar and much more powerful than normal. He may have been a modder as well, but sometimes people are too quick to throw out the M-word.

But even off the radar you will still see the name in the players list even if you can’t see the player. As well as my log showing the kills

[ilovefreebird]

1 minute ago, Crash2338 said:

But even off the radar you will still see the name in the players list even if you can’t see the player. As well as my log showing the kills

I don't believe the log shows the kills of the Beast, but I could be wrong.

 

And how do you know he was not on the player list? Did you match up every visible player blip to every name on the list? 

 

I have a strong feeling he was just playing as the Beast and you were unaware.

[Crash2338]

1 minute ago, ilovefreebird said:

I don't believe the log shows the kills of the Beast, but I could be wrong.

 

And how do you know he was not on the player list? Did you match up every visible player blip to every name on the list? 

 

I have a strong feeling he was just playing as the Beast and you were unaware.

That could be possible if the beast doesn’t show in the kill list. Thanks for sharing.

[cronic-zomb1e]

i would love a quality of life update,  give us a continue to next setup button at the end of a heist setup, fix the dam agent ulp bug on dooms day, give the armoured cars armor on import export, sort out the person that says joining but never joins on arena wars,  fix the titan in the ceo sell mission, sort out the frozen nightclub tecs, fix us from the clouds and black screens 

 

oh they cant because they to busy fixing money glitches 

the problem people have in this game is not being able to make money because of the glitches 

 

what about making it easyer not harder for people to make money on the game then they would not need money glitches 

Edited June 24, 2019 by cronic-zomb1e

[DarkReign27]

4 hours ago, ilovefreebird said:

There's no proof that they have changed anything based on this feedback page.

 

But, in the chance that they actually listen, I hope my 30+ responses asking to remove the MKII Oppressor are seen.

I wont think it does anything until they change something with the Opressor MKII to not have it make everything obsolete, until then it's a PR thing because that should be their priority. And it's not like going back to change game structure that might screw up things from them piling on content without fixing the initial game, it's one vehicle that can be easily changed for a much better experience. Having one vehicle like that do everything man it's boring now, no variety mixed with frustration taking away a lot from the game.

[TheFroggmann]

7 hours ago, Billy Russo said:

Why do randoms not know how to fly a f*cking Titan by now?

 

I'm never ever doing A Titan of a Job ever again, f*ck that mission.

Likely because they never had to grind these missions for income. That and the new flying vehicles/aircraft in this game are notoriously easy to fly/land. 

 

Hell even when I do get a little too happy with the rockets I can still get the Titan to the airstrip.

 

 

[Agent 14]

Not exactly a B&M post but today it was the most funny and random sh*t I've come across to. I landed on a hostile lobby with people arguing back and forth and there was a racist in there throwing the N word then like 15 minutes into the madness a guy turn his mic and starts advertising penis enhancing pills which threw the whole lobby off balance with them asking themselves how they went from arguing back and forth to suddenly talking about dick pills lmao. But thanks to that guy randomness everyone got along and stopped killing each other and then we all had a car show but then a child in a mark 2 showed up and blew all the cars and got a hat spawn on his head lmao then we all killed him till he decided to leave and land on bad sport which was his next destination.

Edited June 24, 2019 by Agent 14

[Arrows to Athens]

15 hours ago, Mas u Sees said:

It actually does, as long as it isn’t too hard to implement they base their changes entirely on feedback

I actually submitted a bug report on the feedback page, asking to patch the God mode glitch.

 

They told me to report the player.

 

I rest my case.

[Mas u Sees]

39 minutes ago, Arrows to Athens said:

I actually submitted a bug report on the feedback page, asking to patch the God mode glitch.

 

They told me to report the player.

 

I rest my case.

That's the Support Staff, not actual R* employees.

They are most likely already aware of the Bug Report.

[Arrows to Athens]

21 minutes ago, Mas u Sees said:

That's the Support Staff, not actual R* employees.

They are most likely already aware of the Bug Report.

They could have at least acknowledged the bug and said that they are looking into fixing the bug, rather than saying to just report the player, which itself doesn't do much in the first place.

[Mas u Sees]

1 minute ago, Arrows to Athens said:

They could have at least acknowledged the bug and said that they are looking into fixing the bug, rather than saying to just report the player, which itself doesn't do much in the first place.

As I said that's Support staff, they work out of call centers and well, have no real idea about anything that is not on their Spreadsheets.

[theyorkshirejo]

6 hours ago, Mas u Sees said:

Every single gameplay change R* makes is based on Community Feedback. But:

1) They aren’t going to relove a vehicle from the game

2) if you send in 30 times the same feedback you will get spam-filtered

Why do people act like they have ADHD?

Just send it in 1 time, and if they want to listen, they will.

Soz but “if they want to listen they will” is exactly the point. They DON’T want to listen. When was the last time they actually implemented a fix due to players high demand? There is a multitude of bugs/exploits in this game that they obviously know about but choose not to fix, instead they choose to fix players harmless outfit glitches.