The B*tch & Moan Thread (Part 3)

[whywontyoulisten]

9 hours ago, kcole4001 said:

I now thoroughly detest the helicopter opposed crate sell mission.

Sometimes you can beat them with altitude, but I tried to do a full small warehouse (15 crates), managed to get 7 of 10 drops before being annihilated by the f*cking Valkyries.

I had 4! choppers after me, no chance at all, by the 6th drop they had all climbed up to my altitude and I had nowhere to go.

Lost $450,000 in product.    

You've been on this board long enough to know the tricks by now but ok.

 

1- Scout out the 3 locations where there will be helicopters and shoot them down before you start delivering (might need to enter a delivery plane first), OR

2- Fly away as soon as you see the enemy on the map as it won't follow you. Land, and return with something armed, OR

3- Switch sessions or close the app if you get attacked so as to preserve the majority of your product.

[Tomtomsengermany]

2 hours ago, Lupo-Akane said:

  What the hell is with these stupid Korean npcs now(...)

met a lot of them during sourcing crates. seriously, would prefer a gun fight with real players instead of facing these bastards. 

[Sil3ntWr4th_-]

23 hours ago, RyuNova said:

 

Why do hoods not pop back up when exiting vehicles? Ruins certain looks of mine.

because too many restrictions according to rockstar.

3 hours ago, Lupo-Akane said:

  What the hell is with these stupid Korean npcs now, every flipping time I step foot outside my club to run a promotion I get attacked.

  If I have sale cocaine from my biker business I run into them on the freeway.......

  I'm sick of them driving up on there stupid bikes or rimming into me with there stupid cars...

If I'm correct, I believe when a business battle occurs and they can't find the main person with the stolen goods, they approach the most nearest player but I could be wrong.

[kcole4001]

6 hours ago, whywontyoulisten said:

You've been on this board long enough to know the tricks by now but ok.

 

1- Scout out the 3 locations where there will be helicopters and shoot them down before you start delivering (might need to enter a delivery plane first), OR

2- Fly away as soon as you see the enemy on the map as it won't follow you. Land, and return with something armed, OR

3- Switch sessions or close the app if you get attacked so as to preserve the majority of your product.

Yeah, I know.

 

The issues with this mission are:

1) you don't know where the drops are until entering the plane

2) you don't know they're going to be opposed drops until you approach the drops

3) there seems to be an altitude restriction on the drops

 

As I said, I can usually beat the helos using altitude, they can't climb and fire very well, so if you stay up high enough they won't be able to get you.

 

I was doing fine until the 7th drop, where I didn't get the drop message because apparently I was too high, so I circled back and dived to make the drop.

As I was making the drop, the explosive cannon rounds destroyed the plane in 2 seconds, not nearly enough time to manipulate the menu to switch sessions.

 

Another B&M about this job:

This mission was 10 drops.

The very next sell mission I got was the one where the final drop is over a restricted area...but was only 5 drops for the same amount of product!

It's the same as doing MC sells where the same product fits in the saddle bags of 2 bikes or 2 Post Op vans.

That's just stupid, lazy mission design.

[SUICIDA4]

15 hours ago, kcole4001 said:

I now thoroughly detest the helicopter opposed crate sell mission.

Sometimes you can beat them with altitude, but I tried to do a full small warehouse (15 crates), managed to get 7 of 10 drops before being annihilated by the f*cking Valkyries.

I had 4! choppers after me, no chance at all, by the 6th drop they had all climbed up to my altitude and I had nowhere to go.

Lost $450,000 in product.    

Did you upgrade your delivery vehicles? They shot 3 times at me, managed to land on airfield and then kill them with MK II.

[kcole4001]

1 minute ago, SUICIDA4 said:

Did you upgrade your delivery vehicles? They shot 3 times at me, managed to land on airfield and then kill them with MK II.

It's the mission-given Cuban 800.

I don't think you can upgrade that.

[whywontyoulisten]

15 minutes ago, kcole4001 said:

2) you don't know they're going to be opposed drops until you approach the drops

 

Be more cynical. Assume they will be opposed drops. You have half an hour to play with, so get in, and then get out of the plane, and then grab your Buzzard and fly over the locations. Left, central, and right are the usual patterns, and usually over the hills.

 

Also, you ignored the bit about flying away as soon as you see them.

6 minutes ago, kcole4001 said:

It's the mission-given Cuban 800.

I don't think you can upgrade that.

Toolbox in the warehouse. You can upgrade all delivery vehicles.

[SUICIDA4]

Yeah you can, once you upgrade plane/s item it applies to both of em.

Edited January 7, 2019 by SUICIDA4
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[just do it bob1]

2 hours ago, kcole4001 said:

It's the mission-given Cuban 800.

I don't think you can upgrade that.

Yeah, you can. Go to the toolbox in your warehouse and upgrade it for like 300k. Whether those upgrades are worth it is entirely up to you.

[EkaSwede]

The enemy helis can be dealt with if you hop into a Buzzard once you've entered and exited the delivery plane. You'll still see the delivery points so you can scout the areas for copters hovering about. Although if you're doing this in a populated session this might be a bad idea.

 

Also, when you get in the plane, pay attention what your assistant texts you. If they say you have to stay low, there won't be enemy copters.

[kcole4001]

2 hours ago, just do it bob1 said:

Yeah, you can. Go to the toolbox in your warehouse and upgrade it for like 300k. Whether those upgrades are worth it is entirely up to you.

 

2 hours ago, just do it bob1 said:

Yeah, you can. Go to the toolbox in your warehouse and upgrade it for like 300k. Whether those upgrades are worth it is entirely up to you.

 

 

4 hours ago, SUICIDA4 said:

Yeah you can, once you upgrade plane/s item it applies to both of em.

 

Never knew that, thanks!

 

I've actually had pretty good luck in the past with evading them using altitude, I think I've done that mission 5 times, and been killed twice.

Only lately have I been doing 15 crate sales, before I stayed with 9 crates, since that's the one vehicle limit.

Of course, you make more doing larger sales, and with the double payouts it's worthwhile. Normally I wouldn't do it.

 

And why can't we do the same with bunker sale vehicles?

R* literally has no consistency in their mission design.

Doing the plane sale where you have one drop and have to land to complete the sale is still one drop no matter how many crates you have on board, yet other sales require either more drops using the exact same plane.

Pure laziness.

Edited January 7, 2019 by kcole4001
grammar

[DarkReign27]

14 hours ago, KSI_IS_STUPID_ said:

because too many restrictions according to rockstar.

If I'm correct, I believe when a business battle occurs and they can't find the main person with the stolen goods, they approach the most nearest player but I could be wrong.

Ha them saying restrictions, to me everything they did with this stuff seems to enrage the player maybe for the cards just makes sense from their business formulas. Poor noobs gonna have a lovely day being killed by something not even involving them, seen that a lot now and they sometimes spawn kill the noobs even after they die like a player would. I've had it happen they don't always give up until the event is over they want you bad for nothing.

 

I'm in my heli flying anywhere near one of these "AI" (I'm even in passive 90 percent of the time) im going to see bullets flying at me for just flying near them to get to my imaginary wife for our imaginary anniversary on my imaginary yacht. Yes I don't do businesses anymore in this chaotic city so I have to come up with something on the console version, please don't tell people how I live.

[Bandersnatch]

Further adventures in bouncy cars and space laser guns ....... 

 

The thing is I'm not being sarcastic that's the truth. 

[Sentinel Driver]

The prices on these new guns

do they really have to charge so much for guns that don't have advantages in performance over the regular ones?

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

31 minutes ago, Sentinel Driver said:

The prices on these new guns

do they really have to charge so much for guns that don't have advantages in performance over the regular ones?

It would be even worse if they were both expensive and overpowered, that's literally pay to win.

 

Semi-related, but as much as I like the new laser weapons, oh boy, R* got lazy:

 

- Why the Unholy Hellbringer has three barrels yet it only fires from one.

- The three alien heads should been special tints instead of being there by default.

- As much as I appreciate not worrying about reloading, I think that a "cooldown meter" that rises when firing constantly would be even cooler IMO.

[Astrohurricane]

Every single time when I decide to sell crates it’s the 10 drop plane mission. I haven’t done the mission for months as I just change session and deal with losing 3 crates as they’re easy enough to replace. But no word of a lie every single time I sell crates that is the first mission. After I change sessions and sell again I get one that’s worth bothering with, but its just astounding that the sell missions are supposed to be random but I always always get this one. 

[RyuNova]

1 hour ago, Sentinel Driver said:

The prices on these new guns

do they really have to charge so much for guns that don't have advantages in performance over the regular ones?

 

Its amazing that, get this, you don't actually have to buy the guns...you have a choice. If they "don't have any advantages" then you don't need to buy them yes? You wan't to buy them but you don't want to pay the price, that's your issue.

[RyuNova]

1 hour ago, Voodoo-Hendrix said:

Why the Unholy Hellbringer has three barrels yet it only fires from one.

 

The the lower two vent excess energy while the top one is the one the beam comes out of.

[Sentinel Driver]

48 minutes ago, RyuNova said:

 

Its amazing that, get this, you don't actually have to buy the guns...you have a choice. If they "don't have any advantages" then you don't need to buy them yes? You wan't to buy them but you don't want to pay the price, that's your issue.

Do you feel smart for saying "if you don't want it then don't buy it"?

 

They could have made the guns a bit more unique, more fun to use, they're laser guns after all so they should be different from the ballistic weapons. Uniqueness would also justify the price tag

the up-an-atomizer is expensive too for anyone who didn't log in to receive it for free, but atleast the price tag on that one is more justified based on how it uniquely performs differently from all the other guns in the game

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

3 minutes ago, RyuNova said:

 

The the lower two vent excess energy while the top one is the one the beam comes out of.

I mean, the Unholy Hellbringer gets depicted as firing through the three barrels in the show though:

 

But also it fires actual bullets in the show instead of laser beams, so I don't know, really.

 

[RyuNova]

1 minute ago, Sentinel Driver said:

Do you feel smart for saying "if you don't want it then don't buy it"?

 

They could have made the guns a bit more unique, more fun to use, they're laser guns after all so they should be different from the ballistic weapons. Uniqueness would also justify the price tag

the up-an-atomizer is expensive too for anyone who didn't log in to receive it for free, but atleast the price tag on that one is more justified based on how it uniquely performs differently from all the other guns in the game

 

I don't need to feel smart, I am smart.

So let me get this right, make them too different and people would cry about them being OP and the only weapons to use but make them too similar to what we have now thus keeping some semblance of balance and its not enough?

They are guns, how would you make them unique but keep them balanced at the same time?

Again, if you are not happy with the price then don't buy them. They add (and remove) nothing from the game. They are a toy for the people that want them. You want them, you making such a ruckus proves that. You just don't want to pay for them.

4 minutes ago, Voodoo-Hendrix said:

I mean, the Unholy Hellbringer gets depicted as firing through the three barrels in the show though:

 

But also it fires actual bullets in the show instead of laser beams, so I don't know, really.

 

 

I personally have my own theory on stuff like the Deluxo, MkII, the Future Shock vehicles and these weapons but thats beside the point.

The Widowmaker also looks like an rotating auto-shotgun in that video as well.

[Collibosher]

I'm a smart man. When I see the "bitch & moan thread", I feel my duty is to go there and tell people to stop bitching. You can also see me in wishlist threads telling people; "R* doesn't actually hear your wishes"

[RyuNova]

3 minutes ago, Collibosher said:

I'm a smart man. When I see the "bitch & moan thread", I feel my duty is to go there and tell people to stop bitching. You can also see me in wishlist threads telling people; "R* doesn't actually hear your wishes"

 

I like you.

[whywontyoulisten]

1 hour ago, Voodoo-Hendrix said:

I mean, the Unholy Hellbringer gets depicted as firing through the three barrels in the show though:

 

But also it fires actual bullets in the show instead of laser beams, so I don't know, really.

 

Ok, so the "real" gun is less realistic than the cartoon version. Rockstar!

[Sunny_D]

Were we not able to keep the sweaters that we tried so hard to unlock through business battles? Are you f*cking kidding me?

[whywontyoulisten]

4 minutes ago, Vitalize said:

Were we not able to keep the sweaters that we tried so hard to unlock through business battles? Are you f*cking kidding me?

Still got all mine.

 

Edit: sh*t, might be temporary. I forgot I'd restmoded.

Edited January 8, 2019 by whywontyoulisten

[Sunny_D]

2 minutes ago, whywontyoulisten said:

Still got all mine.

Is it still under festive tops? I swear i went through my menu at least 20 times trying to find them.

 

EDIT: yep. Apparently you can't access them from your bunker. Carry on

Edited January 8, 2019 by Vitalize

[Sentinel Driver]

Why is idle kick a thing while in your own invite only lobby? I was just scrolling through the xbox menu trying to find my friend to invite and I got idle kicked, thrown into a long loading screen and then into a sh*tty public lobby from which I had to quit to single player to make an invite only lobby again

[Geisterfaust]

29 minutes ago, Sentinel Driver said:

Why is idle kick a thing while in your own invite only lobby?

Because 2013 or even older network code for 2006 consoles. 

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

Post Op vans? MORE LIKE POS VANS.

 

WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?