The B*tch & Moan Thread (Part 3)

[Kiyone_Alien_Cop]

Perhaps R* will put another bullfighting-related name for the new Pegassi Supercar.

[Mexicola9302]

There is nothing retro or classic or custom about the new Countach, if it's just a regular car. So nothing of that would make any sense at all.

 

IMO the only thing that would make sense, is giving it a complete new name, that nobody even thought about. They can't call it Torero something something, or Infernus something something, that wouldn't make any sense.

 

Edit: Maybe it's weaponized like the Ignus is, then they can just call it Weaponized Torero, that would be a loophole.  

Edited July 16, 2022 by Mexicola9302

[RyuNova]

I would get excited about the "26 new vehicles slots" but then I remembered that the LSSS added a good number of vehicles, but they were all sh*t (to me at least) so I won't hold my breath. I expect this, like LSSS, to be sh*t from the cutting room floor that they can't or won't fit into a proper update.

 

Oh, and f*ck the dripfeed. You know for a fact that they will milk it with GTA+.

[Reathyr]

2 minutes ago, Mexicola9302 said:

There is nothing retro or classic or custom about the new Countach, if it's just a regular car. So nothing of that would make any sense at all.

 

IMO the only thing that would make sense, is giving it a complete new name, that nobody even thought about. They can't call it Torero something something, or Infernus something something, that wouldn't make any sense.

 

Edit: Maybe it's weaponized like the Ignus is, then they can just call it Weaponized Torero, that would be a loophole.  

They can probably add an abbreviation to it like Pegassi Torero LCH (like the real 2022 car it's based on is called the Lamborghini Countach LPI 800-4, LPI refers to the original LP112 designation during development of the original Countach in the 70's) and then not explain what the abbreviation actually stands for like they have for several vehicles in GTAO

[Mexicola9302]

1 minute ago, Reathyr said:

They can probably add an abbreviation to it like Pegassi Torero LCH (like the real 2022 car it's based on is called the Lamborghini Countach LPI 800-4, LPI refers to the original LP112 designation during development of the original Countach in the 70's) and then not explain what the abbreviation actually stands for like they have for several vehicles in GTAO

Yeah just a random number or random letters behind the name, else there really isn't anything they can do.

[Shiloh Comes]

5 minutes ago, RyuNova said:

LSSS added a good number of vehicles, but they were all sh*t (to me at least)

 

Agree on the handling-devoid Corvette, the Landstalker and Beater Dukes, but I LOVE the BF Club and Penumbra FF. 2 tuner icons in their own right, as well as being good cars in the game. I like the Tigon too.

 

Didn't we also get the F1 cars in that update? They pissed me right off because I wanted a bespoke, customisable up the wazzoo garage for those. That was disappointing.

[RyuNova]

1 minute ago, Shiloh Comes said:

Agree on the handling-devoid Corvette, the Landstalker and Beater Dukes, but I LOVE the BF Club and Penumbra FF. 2 tuner icons in their own right, as well as being good cars in the game. I like the Tigon too.

 

 

I am not sh*tting on anyone for enjoying the car's add, that's what I said "for me at least" but its "yaaay...more cars...wooo!". GTAO is a toy box, and I want more toys. Fun stuff, not more generic overpriced cars. At least one thing fun out of the twenty-six would be fine.

 

3 minutes ago, Shiloh Comes said:

Didn't we also get the F1 cars in that update? They pissed me right off because I wanted a bespoke, customisable up the wazzoo garage for those. That was disappointing.

 

That's what I mean about cutting room floor sh*t, they couldn't justify the F1 cars in an update despite people asking for them for ages, so they just dumped them in a filler update.

[Reathyr]

25 minutes ago, RyuNova said:

I would get excited about the "26 new vehicles slots" but then I remembered that the LSSS added a good number of vehicles, but they were all sh*t (to me at least) so I won't hold my breath. I expect this, like LSSS, to be sh*t from the cutting room floor that they can't or won't fit into a proper update.

Gotta remember that this is 26 new vehicle SLOTS, not 26 new vehicles, most people here seem to agree that it means two extra property slots, as large garages are 10 cars/motorcycles + 3 bicycles = 13 x 2 = 26 vehicle slots.
One of the few alternatives to this that I could see would be yet an other business property with 20 regular vehicle slots and 6 special vehicle slots, but from what little leaks we've seen this does not seem to be a big update in the ways of having big heist like missions and dedicated new properties and special mission vehicles, it's more a Quality of Life update with a few extras than anything else

[RyuNova]

16 minutes ago, DODI3OG said:

TBH, Skyrim and Fallout 4 being heavily modded on the XSX is not a miracle. Their gaming engine is not that complicated, anyway. The ligthing is still PS360-level and so are the character and world models.

 

 

The fact that you can download mods that completely redo the lighting, models and textures make your point redundant. As I said, you can push the game far beyond what the Devs intended or classed as "stable" and it works fine. This is not a "how sh*t are Bethesda" discussion, it's more the fact that devs are intentionally gimping games when consoles and PC have never been this close.

 

16 minutes ago, DODI3OG said:

If you do that to GTA V, which has a lot of polygons and complicated scripting, the AO would eat up performance since it would have to take into account the different lighting techniques, tessellations, and the tiny details on every building, cars, pedestrian in the world. Also, GTA V has a lot more things going on than Fallout 4 and Skyrim. More civilians/pedestrians and overall traffic in addition to more details.

 

Please, have you ever looked at the scripts running in the background of a Bethesda game? They make a game like GTA look like an entry level coding hack job. You do realise that every item in the game like knives and forks on tables or the tomato in a fruit stall are all their own objects with their own physics etc that the game needs to individually and constantly keep track of, a single cell in a game like Skyrim could have a thousand "objects" the game needs to keep track of. 

 

8 minutes ago, Reathyr said:

Gotta remember that this is 26 new vehicle SLOTS, not 26 new vehicles, most people here seem to agree that it means two extra property slots, as large garages are 10 cars/motorcycles + 3 bicycles = 13 x 2 = 26 vehicle slots.
One of the few alternatives to this that I could see would be yet an other business property with 20 regular vehicle slots and 6 special vehicle slots, but from what little leaks we've seen this does not seem to be a big update in the ways of having big heist like missions and dedicated new properties and special mission vehicles, it's more a Quality of Life update with a few extras than anything else

 

Yea, I did mean to say that which is another reason I am not holding my breath.

Edited July 16, 2022 by RyuNova

[Reathyr]

7 minutes ago, RyuNova said:

Yea, I did mean to say that which is another reason I am not holding my breath.

No you shouldn't hold your breath for a big content filled update, but maybe for some big quality of life updates instead, they mentioned the want to expand the existing businesses, nerf the Oppressor Mk II, allow sell (and probably source) missions in invite only, increase payouts for older stuff across the board, making easier to access snacks and armor, and as they said: "These are just a few of the experience improvements that will be coming this summer" so there might be more long requested improvements to come, we'll have to wait and see the patch notes for that.

 

The way I see it (and I could very well be wrong), Rockstar is slowly moving away from Shark Cards and more towards GTA+ as a money maker, basically switching to a "pay for convenience" system, but they seem to have realized that inconveniencing the base game (which some other companies do) is not going to get you a lot of subscriptions, it's just going to turn a lot of players who try out your product to turn away from it, so they're now fixing many things that ail GTA Online so that the base game actually rewards players well for time spent, and then GTA+ will add extra on top of that. (which is what a pay for convenience system should do)

[Super Grunt 281]

The Rhino in the 3D era is immune to explosions and bullets so very overpowered if one has business to do in the area.

[SummerFreeze]

What's all this debating about the new Countach name? Rockstar is simply going to add 3 random letters to Torero like they did with the Futo, Dominator, Buffalo, ...

[RyuNova]

8 minutes ago, Reathyr said:

No you shouldn't hold your breath for a big content filled update

 

I didn't expect a large update, we have known from when the newswire dropped it's going to be IAA based Contact Missions, what I would like is just something fun. Working for a Government agency should net us some fun toys should it not?

 

8 minutes ago, Reathyr said:

The way I see it (and I could very well be wrong), Rockstar is slowly moving away from Shark Cards and more towards GTA+ as a money maker, basically switching to a "pay for convenience" system, but they seem to have realized that inconveniencing the base game (which some other companies do) is not going to get you a lot of subscriptions, it's just going to turn a lot of players who try out your product to turn away from it, so they're now fixing many things that ail GTA Online so that the base game actually rewards players well for time spent, and then GTA+ will add extra on top of that. (which is what a pay for convenience system should do)

 

The way I see it is that they have realised a good portion of their player base are impatient mouth breathers with too much money on their hands who will willingly pay twice while on their knees saying thank you if it means they don't have to wait.

Edited July 16, 2022 by RyuNova

[No Homing]

I have done 2 casino work missions 6 days ago, I still don't have my 200k. Even doing double the requirements doesn't make it work. How hard is it?

I have done 2 more missions a few days ago, I doubt it will make a difference.

Why do I even bother anyway? More often than not these cash rewards don't work.

[Spider-Vice]

Well, a couple of things to learn from the last few moved and removed posts:

 

1. If you know something is off-topic, especially when it's a rant/vent, perhaps use the GTAO General Chat topic because then...

2. Someone will inevitably start disagreeing and derailing the topic even more, which brings me to

3. Please let's not call anyone "fanboys" or whatever regardless of how extreme or "ignorant" you may think their opinion about something is

 

It was going off the rails already so I've deleted some of the replies and moved the main post to General Chat, you may continue discussing RyuNova's post there if you wish but please don't go on about "fanboys" and what not. Yes, GTA Online on PC also runs like crap but it's not because of PC's "limitations", rather because the version of the engine the current game is running is highly unoptimised, remember GTA Online is basically running on a 2012 version of RAGE - E&E improved some of this back-end stuff and is one of the reasons PC gamers (like myself) also want it.

Not like Bethesda games do any better with their 2000's Creation Engine which is just a fork of GameBryo (a VERY old rickety game engine), and they're not as complex as GTA/RDR, but that's a discussion for another place.

 

Thanks! Let's continue scheduled programming - but maybe tone down the Countach arguments too  

[REVENGE777]

1 hour ago, Reathyr said:

They can probably add an abbreviation to it like Pegassi Torero LCH (like the real 2022 car it's based on is called the Lamborghini Countach LPI 800-4, LPI refers to the original LP112 designation during development of the original Countach in the 70's) and then not explain what the abbreviation actually stands for like they have for several vehicles in GTAO

LIBERTY CITY HARDCORE!!!

 

[Gridl0k]

Anyone else mostly into the "expand upon the Criminal Careers of Executive, Biker, Gunrunner, and Nightclub Owner" bit?

 

This is ceo crates, the 5 factories, bunker resupplies and... nightclub sales?

 

Very curious how all of these will be expanded* alongside each other.

 

* lol**

 

** hmm this could be cut E&E launch content in which case this is the expanded

 

cba to photoshop it but imagine a ramp truck with a post op van, a pounder custom and an insurgent on, the gridl0k DLC 

Edited July 16, 2022 by Gridl0k

[Reathyr]

At the moment we can only guess, which is annoying, I really do wish Rockstar would take a page from Bungie's book and just give use weekly updates and insights into what is coming up and how they're going about it, like Bungie does with their TWAB (This Week At Bungie) for Destiny 2, last weeks Rockstar community update was a big improvement, but well, it's not that hard to improve from nothing at all of course.

 

Also Import/Export is also Executive next to crates

Edited July 16, 2022 by Reathyr

[Spider-Vice]

16 minutes ago, Reathyr said:

At the moment we can only guess, which is annoying, I really do wish Rockstar would take a page from Bungie's book and just give use weekly updates and insights into what is coming up and how they're going about it, like Bungie does with their TWAB (This Week At Bungie) for Destiny 2, last weeks Rockstar community update was a big improvement, but well, it's not that hard to improve from nothing at all of course.

 

Also Import/Export is also Executive next to crates

Destiny is a lot more "live service" than GTAO so I don't think a "TWAB"-style thing would work, but monthly or bi-weekly, perhaps. Thing is, R* likes to keep things under wraps a lot so they can surprise people more when it's finally revealed - I honestly don't think some things would be as exciting for the community if they talked about them "constantly" and showed off progress.

 

Perhaps they could do this for GTA VI though, imagine monthly reveals of small tidbits...

[Talisman_83]

If there IS a new sniper rifle, I hope its somewhat more powerful than the regular sniper rifle.

 

Meaning, I can carry explosive rounds on my MK2 and use this new sniper as (almost) a replacement for the MK2 with regular rounds.

Edited July 16, 2022 by Talisman_83

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

8 hours ago, ChiroVette said:

 

You mean like the mostly FAKE Classic Rock on the so-called Rock Station in GTAV/O?

I mean, technically speaking, classic rock isn't really a genre but more a radio format encompassing several rock genres from the 60s to the early 90s (yeah, Nirvana and Metallica are considered classic rock now lol)

 

And even then, Los Santos Rock Radio is supposed to be more of a Yacht Rock and Classic Rock station anyways rather than pure Classic rock like either KDST or Liberty Rock Radio.

1 hour ago, SummerFreeze said:

What's all this debating about the new Countach name? Rockstar is simply going to add 3 random letters to Torero like they did with the Futo, Dominator, Buffalo, ...

Ah yes, the Pegassi Torero SEX

 

Spoiler

It actually stands for Special Edition Xperimental

 

[Reathyr]

5 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

Destiny is a lot more "live service" than GTAO so I don't think a "TWAB"-style thing would work, but monthly or bi-weekly, perhaps. Thing is, R* likes to keep things under wraps a lot so they can surprise people more when it's finally revealed - I honestly don't think some things would be as exciting for the community if they talked about them "constantly" and showed off progress.

 

Perhaps they could do this for GTA VI though, imagine monthly reveals of small tidbits...

Generally speaking I agree with you, but in this particular case since it's supposed to be mostly QoL upgrades to existing activities and ingame functions I'd rather have they sit back and explain to us what they are changing rather then a single community update with a few but not all mentioned, and basically us waiting till the trailer drops with a few more hints, and then the Patch Notes on release day when we actually find out what has been changed/added to and how.

[Hazzardtohimself]

I've got no illusions of the '26 additional vehicle slots' being anything more than the ability to own an additional two properties / garages... 

 

... but wouldn't it be nice if the garage meta was altered to allow larger vehicles (Pegasus?) into the 'Special' garage under the Import/Export plot, and let us put something like the Ruiner2000 into a regular garage as a PV, and/or the Blazer Aqua into the MC storage..? The lofty ceilings of the Arena garages would also lend themselves to taller / larger vehicles too. 

 

And whilst I'm wishlisting speculating, pLz m0ar hangar space!!1 

[Super Grunt 281]

34 minutes ago, Talisman_83 said:

If there IS a new sniper rifle, I hope its somewhat more powerful than the regular sniper rifle.

 

Meaning, I can carry explosive rounds on my MK2 and use this new sniper as (almost) a replacement for the MK2 with regular rounds.

If the Assault Sniper is the one coming to the game then it's unlikely considering it's shaped like a designated marksman rifle, the kind to fire weaker rounds but faster.

 

And hopefully not a fixed zoom.

[SummerFreeze]

 

 

4 hours ago, Hazzardtohimself said:

I've got no illusions of the '26 additional vehicle slots' being anything more than the ability to own an additional two properties / garages...

We know 6 of these will be bicycle slots, and I doubt we'll be getting hipster lofts unless this is Hipster DLC, part II.

[Fuzzy___Cat]

On 7/15/2022 at 5:25 AM, Lupo-Akane said:

Flipping stupid that we are going to be working with IAA.....again.....

I want to be the bad guy, I sell weapons, drugs, and other stuff I don't want to save the day.

Well, that's part of what the real IAA does, anyway.

[eboyjohnkrasinski]

3 hours ago, RyuNova said:

That's what I mean about cutting room floor sh*t, they couldn't justify the F1 cars in an update despite people asking for them for ages, so they just dumped them in a filler update.

F1 cars originally came in DCH, and LSSS just added 2 more.

 

3 hours ago, RyuNova said:

At least one thing fun out of the twenty-six would be fine.

26 vehicles? What is this, 2019?

[Thomas The Dank Engine]

Weaponized Blimp when 

[ilovefreebird]

17 hours ago, HamwithCheese said:

I actually got easy daily objectives today, I decide to do them and "escape a wanted level" is f*cking broken. Pathetic, really.

 

I have to do it twice for it to register. It's never worked on the first attempt. No idea why.

[DeltaV20]

30 minutes ago, Thomas The Dank Engine said:

Weaponized Blimp when 

 
 

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