Red Dead Redemption 2: Discussion & Speculation (Part 3)

[J.Dillinger Blackheart]

This WILL be game of the decade!

[DoctorMike]

11 minutes ago, VigMarston91 said:

To those people who are worried about the physics,

nuff said!

Dude, that’s just a basic ragdoll, most of the games have it, I’ve seen something like this a lot in the other games 

Edited September 21, 2018 by DoctorMike

[lndex]

Just now, J.Dillinger Blackheart said:

This WILL be game of the decade!

Only a few weeks left!

[Xayah]

2 minutes ago, DisCrafted said:

I heard Jon Ryan talk about it too. But hey, if you wanna stay worried then I can't say anything

Who is Jon Ryan to talk about something that you have to see yourself?

I get you that it's annoying and that the gifs do look impressive, it's just that i and many more thought the same about gta 5 and really just wanna make sure that one of the features that made rdr and gta 4 the best is still that good.

[TheOriginalGunslinger]

5 minutes ago, Emmi said:

More previews? DAMN, I hope there's still lots of surprises left for us when we finally get to play this masterpiece.

But given there's so much stuff that has been discovered in an hour of playtime, geez ... it's enormous!

 

Wow, where did you hear that? They took a lot of inspiration from Breath of the Wild, didn't they?

@8:30

 

 

[Starboy]

R* is gonna prove to everyone that there's more to just creating a beautiful open world. You get pretty bored after roaming a bit in GTA V cause regardless of how beautiful it is, there's not much you can actually interact with. It's fun to know that with free roam, we'll be able to have just as much fun as we would during a mission. 

[GRANDHEIST]

Drunk physics is what I'm talking about:

 

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it raises eyebrows, if R* has forbidden press people to talk about the physics 

 

[MVP]

3 minutes ago, DEADWOODZ said:

Let me know, try Asda too if ya can haha!

These posters are going straight up. The room needs to be Red Dead embraced. I'll turn on my LED lights to Red, maybe I'll buy some Red candles for the night of release for a full Red Dead experience.

 

*careless whisper plays as I insert the game disc*

 

[TheOriginalGunslinger]

1 minute ago, GRANDHEIST said:

Drunk physics is what I'm talking about:

 

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it raises eyebrows, if R* has forbidden press people to talk about the physics 

 

When he falls it looks like the guy is cutting away at John’s arm. lol

[DisCrafted]

1 hour ago, Xayah said:

Who is Jon Ryan to talk about something that you have to see yourself?

I get you that it's annoying and that the gifs do look impressive, it's just that i and many more thought the same about gta 5 and really just wanna make sure that one of the features that made rdr and gta 4 the best is still that good.

He saw it for an hour in March and played more than 2 hours of it recently. He surely knows more than you and I do.
It's funny. We have all these physics fanatics nowadays yet some people criticised the physics of IV and RDR back in the day. Opinions change every 2 days I guess...

Edited September 21, 2018 by DisCrafted

[lndex]

1 minute ago, MostWantedMVP said:

These posters are going straight up. The room needs to be Red Dead embraced. I'll turn on my LED lights to Red, maybe I'll buy some Red candles for the night of release for a full Red Dead experience.

 

*careless whisper plays as I insert the game disc*

 

lmfao...I just need to add to the collection!

 

[Matrelith]

https://www.rockstargames.com/reddeadredemption2/ 

 

 

Not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but the game received its official ESRB rating (scroll all the way down and look at the bottom left corner).

[tsycho]

Didn't think i could get more hyped after all those hands-on previews. But the latest episode of Red Dead Radio did it.

 

 

[Kaversmed]

1 minute ago, DisCrafted said:

He's saw it for an hour in May and played more than 2 hours of it recently. He surely knows more than you and I do.
It's funny. We have all these physics fanatics nowadays yet some people criticised the physics of IV and RDR back in the day. Opinions change every 2 days I guess...

Physics in IV and RDR is awesome, always has been. What are you talking about? 

[DisCrafted]

Also, there's nothing that indicates Rockstar forbid previews from mentioning physics. It just doesn't seem like something previewers would bring up in their articles. I for one don't remember a preview talking about the physics in the past. That's probably my memory though.

1 minute ago, Kaversmed said:

Physics in IV and RDR is awesome, always has been. What are you talking about? 

Sure. But that wasn't the opinion of everyone back then...

Edited September 21, 2018 by DisCrafted

[Smudjed]

Absolutely LOVE the idea of a world that evolves. Buildings going from skeletons to finished as the game goes on. It was an element from GTAV that I felt a bit disappointed by (where the ‘mile high club’ skyscraper was just left unfinished), the way they focussed on it once or twice in those early trailers made me think it would...

 

also - I’m almost convinced by seasons... some of the shots of those to ‘twin’ rocks/mountains in the early trailers vs new screenshots definitely seem somewhat different... alas - could be just more hope than reality in the end

[lndex]

Just now, tsycho said:

Didn't think i could get more hyped after all those hands-on previews. But the latest episode of Red Dead Radio did it.

 

 

Their passion for this game is through the roof!

 

The part they were talkin about John & Arthur's relationship...i can't wait!

[MVP]

2 minutes ago, Matrelith said:

https://www.rockstargames.com/reddeadredemption2/ 

 

 

Not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but the game received its official ESRB rating (scroll all the way down and look at the bottom left corner).

 

I don't think PEGI has rated it yet.

[2019Redifiv/2020Modifiv]

5 minutes ago, DerekLeet said:

Finally someone who knows what they're talking about regarding Euphoria. 

 

I've been lurking the old thread and now this new thread for a while and I keep seeing people claim that "Euphoria won't be RDR2." Having been working on a mod for GTA V's ragdoll physics for the past 10 months now, you tend to learn some of the nuances of the system, figuring out which NMBehavior does what and where you should put it in the physicstasks.ymt. 

 

GTA V's euphoria, compared to its predecessors, was unremarkable and a bit bland: the dead corpses didn't blend into a ClipPose (how the body poses while on the ground) and often they would instead relax into what vaguely looked like a t-pose.

Its real charm laid underneath its hood however. It had been completely overhauled compared to how it functioned in the past, and it allowed you to customize it to a further degree than say GTA IV's, which would make it easier for the physics programmers to add stuff to it. 

 

The second that we saw that staggering corpse in the Gameplay trailer I knew it was back, because it resembles the shotFallToKnees behavior with the armsType set to full (basically as the body hits the ground, the arms push the body up a bit before going limp). In one of screenshots we'be seen a NPC who was shot actually reach for their wound, which often didn't happen in GTA V due to a glitch in the "upperBodyReaction" code line which instead caused the arms to go to the side. 

Euphoria is without a doubt back, already better than GTA V's, and it also appears to blend into poses like before which leaves me satisfied with it so far. Most of the people claiming it's not back haven't got any experience working on it to speak of, so how would they know if its back or not? 

What a f*cking beautiful post.

 

Looking closer at the gif, I think you are right regarding your analysis of the behavior. I really hope that they have dialed the "settings" in CTaskNMBehaviour all the way up. In my GTA V I was able to force the peds to react to each other, in a much more almost domino effect type way. This also leads to peds fleeing falling over each other, stumbling over dead bodies, and as you can see in my video having a threshold that is so low that any physical player-ped/ped-player or ped-ped interaction produces a visible result.

 

And okay, I know that this is a bit off topic, but since I have just found a fellow modder, allow me to indulge and share this video too. 

I was able to completely redo how drivers and their driving style react to events.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7KkNOMEaCQ

 

In vanilla, the AI driver can only remain in the shocking-events swerve task for one third of a second. Not anymore. Heh. 

 

 

[tsycho]

Just now, DEADWOODZ said:

Their passion for this game is through the roof!

 

The part they were talkin about John & Arthur's relationship...i can't wait!

The best thing: In the next episode they gonna have "part two" of their hands-on impressions.

[Stakoman]

im watching this 

 

 

And he loved the game so much that hes saying that its better than spider man and god of war!

 

Also he said (around 6:16) he felt that it was some kind of friction in the air between John and Arthur....i actually said this a couple of times to a bunch of friends of mine (while discussion the game) and also ive said this on reddit.

 

I dont know why but since they are so important to Dutch that they maybe ...maybe wanted to "compete" with each other to his attention...in a way that they want to be the best and are so good at what they do,  their character and temper would pretty much colide!

 

Im feeling that this game will be f*cking epic...in a way that maybe the end of the game wont be the most pleasing for everyone (remember RDR controversy ending)

 

Sorry for some bad english, its hard to find the right words sometimes.

[MC_HaMMaSTiX]

 My hope was a game that felt like a Westworld experience. After yesterday it seems like my expectations have been surpassed for once. I cannot wait to experience a world that appears to exist around me rather than because of me.

[MVP]

@uNi is that poster double sided?

[lndex]

7 minutes ago, MostWantedMVP said:

 

I don't think PEGI has rated it yet.

The promo poster has PEGI 18

5 minutes ago, Stakoman said:

im watching this 

 

 

And he loved the game so much that hes saying that its better than spider man and god of war!

 

Also he said (around 6:16) he felt that it was some kind of friction in the air between John and Arthur....i actually said this a couple of times to a bunch of friends of mine (while discussion the game) and also ive said this on reddit.

Yep, John's jealousy will certainly act out against Arthur...since he's up there in the ranks. My guess is John being the "cocky" kid in the game will do anything to prove himself for Dutch, then later on in the game he starts to doubt his actions!

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I dont know why but since they are so important to Dutch that they maybe ...maybe wanted to "compete" with each other to his attention...in a way that they want to be the best and are so good at what they do,  their character and temper would pretty much colide!

 

Im feeling that this game will be f*cking epic...in a way that maybe the end of the game wont be the most pleasing for everyone (remember RDR controversy ending)

 

Sorry for some bad english, its hard to find the right words sometimes.

 

Edited September 21, 2018 by DEADWOODZ

[NoName3]

I can’t wait to photograph all my horses yanno.. just in case

[Capt.Bojangles]

Apparently when cutting your hair if you decide not to cut it and it becomes messy you can go into a general store and buy pomade to put in your hair. As someone that uses pomade from time to time got me really wanting to go a doc holiday playthrough as well.

[WISE_NINO]

max payne 3 diving with dead eye is in the gameeee  

 

[MVP]

1 minute ago, NoName3 said:

I can’t wait to photograph all my horses yanno.. just in case

Irish is that you?

[Chekoloco]

I can´t imagine ambient songs in RDR2......

 

Enjoy BOIS!

 

 

[vKing]

4 minutes ago, NoName3 said:

I can’t wait to photograph all my horses yanno.. just in case

Damn, that's a good idea. If it dies you have something to remember it by..

 

I'm gonna photograph each horse and name them Horse1 "PEBBLES" Horse2 "JJ"  and so on LMAO 

Edited September 21, 2018 by vKing