Red Dead Redemption 2: Discussion & Speculation (Part 3)

[RedDead2503]

Is it true that you can even customize a horses tail? 

[uNi]

 

[Smudjed]

Never thought in my life, I’d be a man in his 30’s, successful job in London - taking a week off just to play a new PlayStation game! 

Fml! 

[~INDIO~]

1 minute ago, Xayah said:

All these people saying Euphoria isn't in RDR2 under rdr2 o'clock q&a video

 

Did they talk about it? Haven't listened to that one yet 

[joshua969]

2 minutes ago, Smudjed said:

Never thought in my life, I’d be a man in his 30’s, successful job in London - taking a week off just to play a new PlayStation game! 

Fml! 

This game is going to be an experience more than a game.  Proper time is required to let it sink in.

I'm 10 years older, but I'm only taking 3 days off...LOL.

Edited September 21, 2018 by joshua969

[TheLordMarvel]

1 minute ago, RedDead2503 said:

Is it true that you can even customize a horses tail? 

 

Yes it is.

[Xayah]

2 minutes ago, ~INDIO~ said:

Did they talk about it? Haven't listened to that one yet 

No, they completly ignored the most asked question.

[Smudjed]

3 minutes ago, RedDead2503 said:

Is it true that you can even customize a horses tail? 

Dreadlocks and all! 

[Chekoloco]

1 minute ago, joshua969 said:

I'm 10 years older, but I'm only taking 3 days off...LOL.

33 here and i just get my week of vacations haha.

[Kaversmed]

4 minutes ago, Xayah said:

All these people saying Euphoria isn't in RDR2 under rdr2 o'clock q&a video

 

Huh? What have they said about it? 

[lndex]

3 minutes ago, uNi said:

 

Is it in stores?

[thedarkman123]

1 minute ago, Smudjed said:

Dreadlocks and all! 

And customize his balls too.

[Kaversmed]

1 minute ago, Xayah said:

No, they completly ignored the most asked question.

That’s so weird. It can’t be a coincidence we haven’t heard a damn word about it. 

[2019Redifiv/2020Modifiv]

This might sound a bit technical, but it's kind of a big deal to me. What I REALLY hope for, is that the IF the peds/people in the game have Euphoria "brains and nervous systems" AND Rockstar still use their propriertary Fred/Wilma Rage Ragdolls, then I can't overstate how important it is to me that Rockstar has remembered to LOWER the Euphoria ActivationImpulse threshold this time around. 

 

In other words. A simple nudge should be enough to trigger a reaction. Not a big reaction. But a reaction nevertheless. In GTA V the vanilla ActivationImpulsethreshold was really high, and the total number of NatualMotionAgents was only 3. That was the core reason why you had to RUN into pedestrians to make them budge, and that walking or running into people during combat or other events VERY rarely triggered a Euphoria reaction. To me it would let me down if Rockstar once again has raised the threshold in order to either prevent "bugs" or to save system memory. I would rather experience a couple of dips and the occasional clipping, than have a non-ballistic impulse physics system similar to Assassin's Creed or the Far Cry series. 

 

I also hope that IF CtaskWrithe (the way pedestrians in GTA V rolled over and died in seconds, regardless of their game health or where they were shot) is still in their code, it will not trigger automatic in all circumstances. Only people who later modded GTA V on pc, got to experience the InjuredOnGroundTask Euphoria system, that was RIGHT beneath the boring and predictable CtaskWrithe activation. 

 

So to sum it up.

 

In RDR2, people getting shot should only fall down naturally, and limp and stuff. I also hope that the same system that controls how the transfer of momentum through bullets move the person, also will remain activated during every other people to people interaction.

 

And finally, to show you a bit of what I am talking about, instead of just writing a wall of text, here is a video showing GTA V with a much lower activation threshold,  that I just made testing some new jumping velocity edits in GTA V. 

 

Enjoy

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpL4Y4mD7t8&feature=youtu.be

 

 

Edited September 21, 2018 by jevity

[JuexRoastee]

Can someone please pin the previews roundup somewhere? Cant find the link

[Juan marstoon]

Hey guys, I've come across some interesting informations in a french preview, some look new, others reworded. (Possible spoilers for features such as fist fighting, respawning, interaction system. If you prefer to discover those mechanics by yourself, I suggest you shouldn't read this)

 

_ "This is where we see that Rockstar Games has completely revised fistfighting system. Not only has the system been significantly enriched with the ability to dodge attacks (with backdashes), to parry them, to block them, but you can also grab the opponents in different ways, including the neck to strangle them if necessary. Beware of when multiple NPCs start joining the fight, because they are fearsome, and you can't eliminate them with 2 or 3 hits as it was the case in GTA V for example. When many, they do not hesitate to attack together, with what we thought was a certain strategy. It's a little early to confirm, but we had the impression that the AI was analyzing our movements in order to wait for the right moment to attack, especially when we were in a vulnerable position; precisely when Arthur begins strangling the enemy. Proof of this, our first fistfight ended in a surprisingly quick death."

_"But dying was the opportunity to discover the system of respawn of Red Dead Redemption 2, reminiscent of that of GTA V, with the difference that in Red Dead Redemption 2, Arthur Morgan returns to life with his back to the wall of a house not far from his place of death. For a better sense of detail, the character will reappear with the signs of the last fight showing. For example, if Arthur Morgan loses his hat during the fight, he will respawn without his headgear, forcing you either to return to the scene to pick it up, or to buy a new if it's no longer there. Losing your hat will be common in the game. Being struck with a rifle butt, falling on horseback or being hit by an enemy fire will make you loose your hat. 

 

_"You can also have several horses at the same time, since a stable system has been put in place. A bit like Zelda Breath of the Wild, Arthur Morgan can collect horses and use them according to his needs.

 

_"It will therefore be necessary to keep an eye on the two status bars at the right of those of Arthur Morgan and which are located above the mini-map. There is a one for the health of the horse and another for its endurance. It's up to the player to take them into account, by buying tonics or food to keep his horse in shape in all circumstances. And as usual with Rockstar and his incredible sense of detail, each food or stimulant will be the subject of a detailed animation between Arthur and his horse. For example, Arthur can be seen taking an apple out of its bag to give it to his horse, and the animal will crunch it, which will increase its life gauge. As for tonics, Arthur will take a syringe out of his wallet and inject it directly into the muscle of the horse. 

 

_"It is possible to approach a person in an aggressive manner and later try to calm the situation if we see that it's escalating too much. The player will then have a few seconds to make his decision before it is the game that decides for him: Rockstar wishes the interactions between Arthur Morgan and the world around him to be as natural as possible. It will be necessary to be able to respond quickly.

 

_ (Train mission) "Arthur can open all the drawers, cabinet doors, but also pick up any object that hangs on a table. The camera then passes in subjective view and it is possible to contemplate the object from every angle and thus glean the necessary information to remain "aware". 

 

source: http://www.jeuxactu.com/red-dead-2-on-y-a-joue-pendant-1h40-deluge-d-infos-ahurissantes-115385.htm

Edited September 21, 2018 by Juan marstoon

[joshua969]

After next week, there's really only 3 weeks left of marketing as I don't see anything other than reviews during the week of October 22nd.  I still can't believe we're this close.

 

Prediction for next week:  Possibly more previews, another feature section added (hoping for wildlife), another t-shirt give-away, gameplay trailer later in the week.

Edited September 21, 2018 by joshua969

[MVP]

I wish people would stop whining about the f*cking game physics. It's confirmed to be the same as the first game and hugely improved, and theres even a gameplay video to prove it.

 

You sound like a bunch of children who start crying because mommy said you can't have any.

 

Spoiler

Get a life, nerds.

 

[RedDead2503]

I still dont know if that dismemberment is dead eye locked or not

[Reno_]

5 minutes ago, JuexRoastee said:

Can someone please pin the previews roundup somewhere? Cant find the link

 

[2019Redifiv/2020Modifiv]

Just now, MostWantedMVP said:

I wish people would stop whining about the f*cking game physics. It's confirmed to be the same as the first game and hugely improved, and theres even a gameplay video to prove it.

 

You sound like a bunch of children who start crying because mommy said you can't have any.

 

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Get a life, nerds.

 

Is that a response to me ?

[Mr Fyn666]

9 minutes ago, joshua969 said:

This game is going to be an experience more than a game.  Proper time is required to let it sink in.

I'm 10 years older, but I'm only taking 3 days off...LOL.

Ha amd I'm at least ten years older than you in numbers but I'm more like an excitable ten year old kid....  

 

Teaching English in Spain, pumped for this game...

 

Fishing my bag, and the mountains... Peace and tranquillity...

[Red Dead Rebel]

9 minutes ago, Xayah said:

No, they completly ignored the most asked question.

 

Game Informer said they can' talk about everything so this must be one.

[Reno_]

Just now, jevity said:

Is that a response to me ?

I think he meant the people commenting on the RDR2 o'clock video complaining that euphoria isn't back

[Kaversmed]

3 minutes ago, MostWantedMVP said:

I wish people would stop whining about the f*cking game physics. It's confirmed to be the same as the first game and hugely improved, and theres even a gameplay video to prove it.

 

You sound like a bunch of children who start crying because mommy said you can't have any.

 

  Hide contents

Get a life, nerds.

 

Where has it been confirmed?

[MVP]

I just find it ridiculous talking about such a minor thing that is already in the game. It's constant on this forum, it's annoying.

[DisCrafted]

To people still wondering about the physics:

[vKing]

Arthur has enough testosterone left in his balls to call an old lady a "Soulless wretch" so i'm not worried that he will be a nervous dude at all. Besides it has been confirmed that Arthur can hire prostitutes, so him being a nervous dude around chicks makes no sense.

44 minutes ago, TheOriginalGunslinger said:

Question about collecting flowers and stuff... will they be marked on the map again (when approaching them) or no marker this time on the radar and we could distinguish what to pick and stuff?

We'll probably have to use eagle eye and try to spot flowers that are highlighted i imagine. Several journalists play RDR2 for 4 hours and they still haven't tested this out. lol

Edited September 21, 2018 by vKing

[Kaversmed]

Just now, MostWantedMVP said:

I just find it ridiculous talking about such a minor thing that is already in the game. It's constant on this forum, it's annoying.

It might be a minor thing to you but it isn’t for me. So excuse me for being passionate about it. What a weirdly aggressive response you have, Jesus lighten the f*ck up. 

[TheOriginalGunslinger]

Shotguns could blow people’s arms off now. 

I wonder what limbs fly when you toss a dynamite stick at someone? lol Dismemberment is in the game in some form so that’s dope.

Edited September 21, 2018 by TheOriginalGunslinger