Red Dead Redemption 2: Discussion & Speculation (Part 3)

[joshua969]

Things might get intense this week if they’re using an aggressive 6 week marketing plan.

[Jason]

Ngl I'd be pretty disappointed if the game doesn't launch with some sort of photo mode (whether that be the editor like they do in V or whatever). That mode is like free advertising for games these days, people take some amaaaaaaaazing shots.

[damienrayemusic]

Just now, joshua969 said:

Things might get intense this week if they’re using an aggressive 6 week marketing plan.

They sure are, boyo. It's time. That GTAO tweet today was prob the nail in the coffin for another non red week

[Cutter De Blanc]

24 minutes ago, Groggy Gorilla said:

We're now as far away time-wise from the first gameplay trailer as we are from the game's release date.

Only need to watch the gameplay trailer approximately 9,360 more times

[Starboy]

We're basically getting an upgraded version of RDR 1, which to me is fine enough. I'm not expecting a cowboy simulator or expecting Arthur to die if he doesn't get antidote after getting bit by a rattle snake. 

[uNi]

6 minutes ago, joshua969 said:

Things might get intense this week if they’re using an aggressive 6 week marketing plan.

Bring it on!

[Mr Fyn666]

7 minutes ago, joshua969 said:

Things might get intense this week if they’re using an aggressive 6 week marketing plan.

 

Got the popcorn, beer and weed ready... Let's go!!!

 

 

[Jason]

9 minutes ago, joshua969 said:

Things might get intense this week if they’re using an aggressive 6 week marketing plan.

For months, well over a year in fact, we constantly talked about the 6 month marketing schedule, like most devs do. Little did we know that it was actually gonna be 6 weeks...

[DisCrafted]

3 minutes ago, Jason said:

For months, well over a year in fact, we constantly talked about the 6 month marketing schedule, like most devs do. Little did we know that it was actually gonna be 6 weeks...

Typical Rockstar trolling

lol

Edited September 16, 2018 by DisCrafted

[saintsrow]

40 minutes ago, Jason said:

I'm always reminded of No Mans Sky when it comes to this, albeit that's a game where the devs didn't help the situation by any means. The game was marketed as an exploration game but people saw space combat and the like and just started imagining that you could go around being a pirate with your own crew and stuff like that. Just taking bare footage or features and then leaping to conclusions and then being disappointed when they're dreamt up features weren't in game.

 

Rockstar's games always suffer with it as well because they give so little away regarding features that people run wild things they hear in previews.

It doesn't help, the way Rockstar marketing edits, narrates, and strings together their videos to imply gameplay continuity, gameplay modes, animations, controls, camera angles, dialog and story complexity that are only in programmed cutscenes or editor modes, or artifacts of slick game description.  They have a lot of fun making these trailers and tuning them up, but gotta be real, Rockstar marketing doesn't mind creating high expectations, that real-time gameplay does not and cannot deliver.  

 

Even so, Rockstar gives us as much freedom and logic as they can program in 5 years of game development.  It's still why we are intensely loyal.  

 

 

[eyman]

I can feel it this week is going to be big. they are going to announce something Red Dead related and I can't wait. The waiting is finally going to be over.

This Week:

[Jason]

Just now, saintsrow said:

It doesn't help, the way Rockstar marketing edits, narrates, and strings together their videos to imply gameplay continuity, gameplay modes, animations, controls, camera angles, dialog and story complexity that are only in programmed cutscenes or editor modes, or artifacts of slick game description.  They have a lot of fun making these trailers and tuning them up, but gotta be real, Rockstar marketing doesn't mind creating high expectations, that real-time gameplay does not and cannot deliver. 

Welcome to video game marketing 101. Every one does it, it's why people were hella skeptical about the TLOU2 demo at this years E3, no one knows how much of it was real.

[ejderemir]

I will just walk around in Blackwater or other big towns, greet people, spend time in bars and play poker,chill... 

[Kaversmed]

5 minutes ago, eyman said:

I can feel it this week is going to be big. they are going to announce something Red Dead related and I can't wait. The waiting is finally going to be over.

This Week:

Damn, that John Marston one is slick AF!

6 minutes ago, saintsrow said:

It doesn't help, the way Rockstar marketing edits, narrates, and strings together their videos to imply gameplay continuity, gameplay modes, animations, controls, camera angles, dialog and story complexity that are only in programmed cutscenes or editor modes, or artifacts of slick game description.  They have a lot of fun making these trailers and tuning them up, but gotta be real, Rockstar marketing doesn't mind creating high expectations, that real-time gameplay does not and cannot deliver.  

 

Even so, Rockstar gives us as much freedom and logic as they can program in 5 years of game development.  It's still why we are intensely loyal.  

 

 

Sorry, but what did you see in those trailers that they can't deliver on exactly? 

 

Edit: Ahh sorry I think I get your point now. You mean that people's expectations are so insane it's not possible to fulfil them with real-time gameplay. 

Edited September 16, 2018 by Kaversmed

[Wolfboy20]

Probably scripted gameplay moments that can't be replicated in free roam

[vKing]

1 minute ago, ejderemir said:

I will just walk around in Blackwater or other big towns, greet people, spend time in bars and play poker,chill... 

I want to try my hand at Horseshoes 2.0. If they brought it back and it's in the game then it's 100% better this time around with better physics etc. I'm still mad at that fella in Macfarlanes Ranch that robbed me of all my starter money 

[RedDead2503]

So will you guys hang alot with the gang or mostly alone?

[ejderemir]

1 minute ago, vKing said:

I want to try my hand at Horseshoes 2.0. If they brought it back and it's in the game then it's 100% better this time around with better physics etc. I'm still mad at that fella in Macfarlanes Ranch that robbed me of all my starter money 

I was so bad at Horseshoes. But I remember I was playing poker for hours in my favorite towns. Chuparosa, Thieves Landing and Blackwater 

1 minute ago, RedDead2503 said:

So will you guys hang alot with the gang or mostly alone?

I think I’ll mostly hang alone or with Micah or Dutch

[DisCrafted]

1 minute ago, RedDead2503 said:

So will you guys hang alot with the gang or mostly alone?

Why not both? Hanging with the gang will be tons of fun I'm sure. But I also like to go out in the wildlife and take it all in sometimes as well.

[Reno_]

1 minute ago, RedDead2503 said:

So will you guys hang alot with the gang or mostly alone?

Definetly hanging out with the gang. I want to hear every dialouge i can from every one of them. Hopefully you can hang out with two people at once with unique dialouges like in V.

[Mostly_Red]

5 minutes ago, Jason said:

Welcome to video game marketing 101. Every one does it, it's why people were hella skeptical about the TLOU2 demo at this years E3, no one knows how much of it was real.

Yep, everyone does, with almost no exception.

 

That's why Cyberpunk's  narrator kept saying "this is a work in progress" during the whole demo. To prevent the kinda situations like the puddle thing in Spider-Man.

 

That TLOU demo is another good example. Or Ghost of Tsushima. 

 

 

[Shadowfennekin]

5 minutes ago, RedDead2503 said:

So will you guys hang alot with the gang or mostly alone?

The gang obviously, I'd like to know more about all these new characters. And I'm going to take my time beating the game rather than rushing it as I expect a fair few are going to die

Edited September 16, 2018 by Shadowfennekin

[Kaversmed]

Hanging out with Karen for sure

[vKing]

4 minutes ago, RedDead2503 said:

So will you guys hang alot with the gang or mostly alone?

I'll do a mix of both but i'll be more with the gang and helping them out then being alone. 30/70

 

Rockstar has said that the gang mechanic isn't pointless and helping the camp and hanging out with gang members is worthwhile. Maybe we unlock some cool stuff if we help them out a lot? 

[DisCrafted]

1 minute ago, Kaversmed said:

Hanging out with Karen for sure

Sadie* 

[Kaversmed]

Just now, DisCrafted said:

Sadie* 

I'm a simple man, I can't help it.

[LegacyKillaHD]

3 minutes ago, Kaversmed said:

Hanging out with Karen for sure

Thicc

[Reno_]

I wanna hang out with Bill and John just to hear them argue and Arthur having to calm them down. 

[SuperKitsune]

I think hanging out with uncle will be funny as hell!

[Reno_]

1 minute ago, SuperKitsune said:

I think hanging out with uncle will be funny as hell!

Visit every saloon with Uncle better be an achievement. At least let us see him taking a nap around the camp and give us the option to wake him up.