Red Dead Redemption 2: Discussion & Speculation (Part 3)

[saintsrow]

3 hours ago, Cutter De Blanc said:

Yeah guys f*ck this game, lets talk about Rockstar's next game they're gonna make after this one instead.

That's like... I dunno... I'd prefer to be happy with what's coming out, rather than looking many more years down the road as to what's on the very very distant horizon

The trouble is that the natural cycle is to expect a new Rockstar flagship game every couple of years.  Since it's stretched to about 5 years between games now, our speculations are ahead by 3 years and running double speed ahead of that.  We already speculated the hell out of RDR2 about 2 years ago.  

 

Given that, I can speculate on GTA VI.  Given the incredible situation in the US right now, with the Russian mob basically controlling the US govt, fronted by an NYC and Florida- based puppet president, and Rockstar's inclination to parody the present US political climate, I think we'll see a strong return of Hove Beach and Liberty City, with more emphasis on Russian mob money, in a long skinny vertically-oriented map that is a representation of the US easter seaboard, with Liberty City at the north end, a parody of Washington DC in the middle, and a return, finally, to Vice City in the south.  They'll add the Everglades and some Appalachian hilljack country to give the map some width, and some farmland west of Liberty City, in the north.  

 

 

 

 

Edited September 15, 2018 by saintsrow

[Cutter De Blanc]

Don't the animal corpses show up on the minimap anyway? I dunno, the dead-eye tracking just seems very cheap and half-assed compared to the rest of the game they've shown

Edited September 15, 2018 by Cutter De Blanc

[ejderemir]

Just now, Cutter De Blanc said:

Don't the animal corpses show up on the minimap anyway? I dunno, the dead-eye tracking just seems very cheap and rough compared to the rest of the game they've shown

I hate the dead-eye mechanic too. Let's hope we will not need it to catch an animal.

[DexMacLeod]

3 minutes ago, Cutter De Blanc said:

Don't the animal corpses show up on the minimap anyway? I dunno, the dead-eye tracking just seems very cheap and half-assed compared to the rest of the game they've shown

I'm pretty sure it was confirmed that dead people show up on the minimap but I'm not sure we've heard anything about dead animals. Seems pretty likely they will though.

[Cutter De Blanc]

Wonder how long until we're all desensitized to screaming deer

[happygrowls]

4 minutes ago, Cutter De Blanc said:

Wonder how long until we're all desensitized to screaming deer

never because i love animals so much please do not hurt the animals i will hunt you down in rdo and make you say sorry to the animals

[damienrayemusic]

It's gonna be disturbing a few times at least before getting used to it... If it's really how they described which I have no doubt it is. Man I love animals and they love me, they always sense I'm a good person   and yes you may say it's just a video game but well. Not exactly anymore... Everything looks and feels so real. You get so immersed your brain thinks you're really there and feels for things including the cute deer and frog you just saw cross Arthur's path. I'm glad rockstar is going super realistic and really making it so your horse dying and things dying in general is no joke, but the animal will probably take getting used to. Gonna have to learn how to shoot the animal in one shot without suffering! Probably the heart.

Edited September 15, 2018 by damienrayemusic

[Ehrmantraut]

13 minutes ago, DexMacLeod said:

I'm pretty sure it was confirmed that dead people show up on the minimap but I'm not sure we've heard anything about dead animals. Seems pretty likely they will though.

Dead animals show up on the minimap on the first game. Almost sure it will be the same thing here.

Edited September 15, 2018 by Mafia Assassin®

[Mostly_Red]

Yes

 

Let's all make a vow

 

None of us will kill animals in the first week, or we shall be cursed for all eternity 

[damienrayemusic]

1 minute ago, Mostly_Red said:

Yes

 

Let's all make a vow

 

None of us will kill animals in the first week, or we shall be cursed for all eternity 

But then the humans we actually care about like Arthur, John, Dutch and the whole gang will suffer... Damn 

[saintsrow]

9 minutes ago, Cutter De Blanc said:

Wonder how long until we're all desensitized to screaming deer

I like animals, so I'll try for headshots.  

 

On the other hand, I love the sound of burning human NPCs in GTA V/Online, so it'll be great if wounded human NPCs scream in RDR2.  

 

[damienrayemusic]

3 minutes ago, saintsrow said:

I like animals, so I'll try for headshots.  

 

On the other hand, I love the sound of burning human NPCs in GTA V/Online, so it'll be great if wounded human NPCs scream in RDR2.  

 

Lmaooo how your comment first was so wholesome and genuine then the next part was so real and just venerating total savagery. I agree though lmaooo. Humans are truly sh*tty a lot of them.. I feel animals are better. And humans are the reason in the first place I deal with the trauma that I do on a day to day basis... So getting that frustration out in the virtual world , definitely satisfying. Lol 

Edited September 15, 2018 by damienrayemusic

[lndex]

4 minutes ago, damienrayemusic said:

But then the humans we actually care about like Arthur, John, Dutch and the whole gang will suffer... Damn 

Try one of Pearson's famous Hummingbird Sage soup's.  loool

Edited September 15, 2018 by DEADWOODZ

[saintsrow]

4 minutes ago, damienrayemusic said:

But then the humans we actually care about like Arthur, John, Dutch and the whole gang will suffer... Damn 

Our protags have to suffer, in order to have a dramatic story.  That's a fact of literature.  You gotta love yourself some drama.  

 

[vKing]

1 minute ago, saintsrow said:

I like animals, so I'll try for headshots.  

 

On the other hand, I love the sound of burning human NPCs in GTA V/Online, so it'll be great if wounded human NPCs scream in RDR2.  

LMAO, we're all some evil f*cks. But yes, killing animals in one shot is mercy in my eyes. Better to get the clean kill then to wing it and having them run off while bleeding. How the IGN guy explained in detail the wailing of the deer was terrifying.

[damienrayemusic]

1 minute ago, vKing said:

LMAO, we're all some evil f*cks. But yes, killing animals in one shot is mercy in my eyes. Better to get the clean kill then to wing it and having them run off while bleeding. How the IGN guy explained in detail the wailing of the deer was terrifying.

. I see vking feels the same way!e way that I do.

4 minutes ago, damienrayemusic said:

Lmaooo how your comment first was so wholesome and genuine then the next part was so real and just venerating total savagery. I agree though lmaooo. Humans are truly sh*tty a lot of them.. I feel animals are better. And humans are the reason in the first place I deal with the trauma that I do on a day to day basis... So getting that frustration out in the virtual world , definitely satisfying. Lol 

Saintsrow had the comment of the night if you ask me. That was hilarious how it went from so nice and thoughtful to "but I love the sound of burning human NPCs lmaooo

10 minutes ago, damienrayemusic said:

It's gonna be disturbing a few times at least before getting used to it... If it's really how they described which I have no doubt it is. Everything looks and feels so real. You get so immersed your brain thinks you're really there and feels for things including the cute deer and frog you just saw cross Arthur's path. I'm glad rockstar is going super realistic and really making it so your horse dying and things dying in general is no joke, but the animal will probably take getting used to. Gonna have to learn how to shoot the animal in one shot without suffering! Probably the heart.

 

[Haha365]

18 minutes ago, saintsrow said:

I like animals, so I'll try for headshots.  

 

And bow and arrows only. 

[saintsrow]

3 minutes ago, vKing said:

LMAO, we're all some evil f*cks. But yes, killing animals in one shot is mercy in my eyes. Better to get the clean kill then to wing it and having them run off while bleeding. How the IGN guy explained in detail the wailing of the deer was terrifying.

Indeed.  For all of Rockstar's cynicism, they have a consistent message against factory farming and fast food meat, and, by extension, animal concerns in general.  They expanded their background animal-rights message by including Humane Labs in GTAV.  So it would be good to feel the consequences of animal suffering in RDR2. 

 

We're in a transition period in history from millennia of old world thinking, where animals were just objects or tools to be exploited by humankind, to modern scientific thinking, where it's clear that humans are just one more kind of animal, with the same primitive emotions and fears and pain as all the other animals throughout time.  But it's still easy to justify animal exploitation, i.e., Cluckin' Bell and Bleeder Burgers, by pointing to the vast, pervasive cruelty in all of nature. 

 

Bottom line is that there's no nice, clean, final philosophical argument that we can use to rationalize the injustice and imbalance inherent in all this.  An engaging game can maybe give us insight, if we need it.  

 

 

 

[Dr.Rosenthal]

A few thoughts; a professional hunter would surely go for a shot to the heart-region of, say, a deer, and not a headshot? I'll be pissed if I shoot a perfect arrow or bullet to the heart of that animal and it starts running away from me. "Animal Torturer -100 Honor" lol

 

Another thought that popped up with this talk of The Witcher 3 and gruesome ways to kill in general. I recently started NG+ and have created a build where everything amplifies or builds upon Igni. I make myself sick watching all those poor men set ablaze.

But yeah, it's awesome at the same time.

[LegacyKillaHD]

Fake "leaks"

 

 

[Spider-Vice]

They definitely wouldn't have the website ready with everything already. That Pinkerton description sounds super generic too.

[rollschuh2282]

16 minutes ago, LegacyKillaHD said:

Fake "leaks"

 

 

is there a part of a Edgar ross artwork at the bottom?

Edited September 16, 2018 by rollschuh2282
ok, it´s fake. The name isn´t part of the picture

[Jason]

He, supposedly, loaded up the RDR2 page and had access to unreleased promo material including artwork but only screenshotted the text.

 

lel

[vKing]

I'm betting my money on "this is complete horsesh*t" 

[rollschuh2282]

yep.

it is complete fake.

i just tried to recreate it, and managed it in like 2 minutes.

[lndex]

10 hours ago, rollschuh2282 said:

is there a part of a Edgar ross artwork at the bottom?

The artwork at the bottom is Sean Macguire...lmao

Edited September 16, 2018 by DEADWOODZ

[rollschuh2282]

2 minutes ago, DEADWOODZ said:

The artwork at the bottom is Sean McGuire...lmao

yep, i noticed it.

he just changed the name bc it isn´t part of the picture itself

[damienrayemusic]

1 hour ago, DEADWOODZ said:

Try one of Pearson's famous Hummingbird Sage soup's.  loool

How bout some of that Lamb's Fry? instead??? Wtf even is that?? Lamb's something lol

[Auditore]

59 minutes ago, LegacyKillaHD said:

Fake "leaks"

 

 

This happens every few months during a Rockstar game hype cycle,some unknown on twitter share's some pics that are really zoomed in and low quality with some fake menus,its the most pathetic form of clickbait

[damienrayemusic]

39 days to go pretty boi... LETS GOOOOOOO 

Edited September 16, 2018 by damienrayemusic