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BretMaverick777

Dutch Van Der Linde Appreciation Thread

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BretMaverick777

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Dutch Van Der Linde kicks major league ass.  

 

Never mind Arthur Morgan.  Never mind John Marston.  When all is said and done, Dutch van der Linde is gonna emerge as one of the greatest VG characters of ALL TIME.  Best of the (Wild) West. 

 

In RDR1, I could never understand how we were supposed to be intimidated or impressed with a slovenly drunk old bastard running around in the snow in his dirty longjohns playing Indian.  THIS is the guy..? Really?

 

But in RDR2, Dutch has come into his own.  Forget this nonsense about alleged insanity, and a collapsing loyalty base.  RDR2 Dutch is a Grade A Certified Badass, and he does it with style, panache, and grace. 

 

I seriously love this guy. Cosplay material.  People talk about getting to play as other characters like John and Sadie and Micah, when they can't even touch the Dutch. 

 

 

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infectedG636

Hopefully, a DLC where you play as him. 

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silly_nate

^ director mode

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Cutter De Blanc

 "I'm settin' these people FREE!"

I like in the first game the build-up to meeting Dutch, how John talks about him with such respect throughout the course of the game, so by the point you finally meet him he's already been built up as this sort of legendary criminal mastermind. Then when you meet him he's one savage motherf*cker, and you're like "THIS is the dude who taught you to read and write and have manners!?" But in the few scenes Dutch has you can still see that glimmer of the great leader, the man that once was, behind the animal he'd turned into.

It will be great to see the man in his prime.
 

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RedDadRedemption

I think abigail is dutch's daughter

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PapasHota
2 hours ago, RedDadRedemption said:

I think abigail is dutch's daughter

So he f*cked his own daughter.

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BretMaverick777
14 minutes ago, PapasHota said:

So he f*cked his own daughter.

What is he, a Trump....?

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OFFICIAL WANTED POSTER

From Rockstar's Twitter Twatter feed.

 

Go bring me this man, dead or alive.   And I don't want you taking 12 years gettin' it done, neither

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RedDadRedemption

that makes arthur mike pence

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darkbane30

Stay STRONG!

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BretMaverick777

And here ah am lookin' like a studmuffin while I'm ridin' across them Grizzly Mountains

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And here ah am lookin' like a studmuffin while I'm checkin' out how hot Sadie Adler really is

(or is it Arthur....?   There was that one time up on Brokeback Mountain)

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And here ah am lookin' like a studmuffin just settin' around the camp, cuz I always style so fine, I just can't hep mahself

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Spitta_Vercetti
5 hours ago, RedDadRedemption said:

I think abigail is dutch's daughter

Lol ok 

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SneakyDeaky

I want him to teach Arthur how to play chess. That is if we have access to the game as a fully fledged mini-game and not just something people in the camp do randomly that you have no interaction with.

If chess is playable, you know Dutch will be the Grandmaster of the camp.

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letsgoraptors

Dutch is a merciless psychopath.

 

I hope Arthur chases him away like a weasel in the end. 

 

 

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BretMaverick777
3 hours ago, letsgoraptors said:

Dutch is a merciless psychopath.

 

 

 

 

I don't think that's proven yet.  

 

He's not in the habit of murdering hostages in cold blood....the two most famous examples are far enough apart in years, and so extremely rare, as to evoke shock and horror that Dutch would even be capable of it.   He murdered Heidi McCourt and it brought back either a ghost or an avenging angel to visit John Marston 5 years later; he murdered the innocent bank teller in 1911 and it was such a rarity that even John and Edgar Ross were taken by complete surprise.   It's just not something that Dutch Van Der Linde does.   Shoot down lawmen, bounty hunters, bank guards, "business" rivals, and traitors (real or imagined) in his camp...?  Sure, that's just "business," and part of "the game" (literally).  But he doesn't seem to be the kind of man who regularly places innocent civilians -- even hostages -- in harm's way.   Even in the trailers, he acts like a "gentleman bandit"...as long as people act calm, follow instructions, and don't try to act like a hero, he can pretty much guarantee their safety.   Dutch Van Der Linde is in the stealing business; he's not the killing kind.

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BretMaverick777

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Just added moments ago from Rockstar Twitter

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Stakoman

Maybe this is a stupid question: do we already know/have every name for every gang member?

(besides Dutch, Arthur, John Marston, Abigail, Bill Williamson, and Javier Escuella) but then...we have Micah Bell and Sadie Adler

 

i mean Micah Bell for example is it confirmed? and Sadie?   

 

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Sorry if this is stupid but i really dont know :)

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BretMaverick777
2 hours ago, Stakoman said:

Maybe this is a stupid question: do we already know/have every name for every gang member?

(besides Dutch, Arthur, John Marston, Abigail, Bill Williamson, and Javier Escuella) but then...we have Micah Bell and Sadie Adler

 

i mean Micah Bell for example is it confirmed? and Sadie?   

 

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Sorry if this is stupid but i really dont know :)

Just keep watching R* Twitter today.  Or the main discussion thread, if you don't Twitter.  They're posting names, artwork, and quotes for every gang member today on every half hour.

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Stakoman
51 minutes ago, BretMaverick777 said:

Just keep watching R* Twitter today.  Or the main discussion thread, if you don't Twitter.  They're posting names, artwork, and quotes for every gang member today on every half hour.

Yea I'm right there following everything that comes up :p

 

I just didn't knew/remember how did we have access to the names of some gang members but know I've seen that was on the IGN article? Right? 

 

It was impossible otherwise 

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BretMaverick777

"Leopold Strauss:

 

Originally hailing from Austria, Herr Strauss is responsible for keeping the gang’s books and running their money lending operation. A serious, somewhat shifty and unemotional man, he has all the qualities a loan shark needs."

 

So we now know Dutch's idea of playing Robin Hood means robbing from the rich to give loans to the poor at inflated interest rates.  

Not nearly as romantic as it sounds. 

 

Gotta wonder why Dutch would put Arthur in charge of debt collection, though.   That's generally thug work; you don't put your Number 2 in charge of that.   Too risky.  

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Cutter De Blanc

Beating people up and taking their money is something I'm sure Arthur enjoys doing in his free time

"If you love your job you never work a day in your life."

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BretMaverick777
2 minutes ago, Cutter De Blanc said:

Beating people up and taking their money is something I'm sure Arthur enjoys doing in his free time

"If you love your job you never work a day in your life."

He must have been hell at elementary school recess. 

 

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WEAH IS MAH LUNCH MUNNEH, BOIYAHHHH

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WhiskeyHick

I think Arthur, much like us, is gonna take matters into his own hands, debt collecting, shaking down and intimidation, nothing's off limits.. After all Dutch started this fever dream from nothing Arthur is just playing par for the course

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damienrayemusic

We're gonna "borrow" a little money, from old Uncle Sam then be out of his hair.. once AND FOR ALL! I love dutch. My favorite character of RDR1 right behind John Marston ! And so far in RDR2, my favorite new characters are Arthur and Sadie, with Dutch and John returning still as my favs ;) "you coming...? BUDDY"

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Lisha

I love how he dresses, suave as hell.

 

Honestly, I can't wait to see his descent into insanity because the difference between how he looks in RDR2 and RDR1 is so stark. It's going to be tragic, I'm sure. 

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Ticko

Yeah I really wonder what makes him go insane and when in the story it will happen. I think some people in the camp including Arthur, John and Abigail (to name a few) will start to have different views on what they are doing. So the camp will fall apart, in the end leaving Dutch with few members, feeling betrayed and angry he vows revenge. And so he starts to recruit new members and this time he will rule the gang without style, panache and grace. This time he will rule the gang more like a Tyrant does. And so we see a charming leader in RDR 2 acting like a Robin Hood and a guy in longjohns, not acting anymore running around in the mountains in RDR 1.

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BretMaverick777
3 hours ago, Ticko said:

Yeah I really wonder what makes him go insane and when in the story it will happen. I think some people in the camp including Arthur, John and Abigail (to name a few) will start to have different views on what they are doing. So the camp will fall apart, in the end leaving Dutch with few members, feeling betrayed and angry he vows revenge. And so he starts to recruit new members and this time he will rule the gang without style, panache and grace. This time he will rule the gang more like a Tyrant does. And so we see a charming leader in RDR 2 acting like a Robin Hood and a guy in longjohns, not acting anymore running around in the mountains in RDR 1.

Yeah, my take on the gradual collapse is based on Dutch's ego cracking and paranoia setting in.   The Marston family will probably play a large part -- I've got a feeling Dutch resents the hell out of the fact that they're trying to raise a family right there in the middle of his bandit camp.  On a practical level, that's bound to slow Dutch down -- even the recently released character descriptions hint that more than a few of the missions will involve rescuing or protecting Lil' Jack.   And the angrier Dutch gets at the Marstons for impacting the gang's mobility, the angrier the rest of the gang will get at him for turning into a tyrant.  And on a personal level, Dutch sees that as a challenge to his authority.  I think the clashes in camp between Dutch Van Der Linde and Abigail Roberts-Marston are gonna be epic. 

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SneakyDeaky

I can't wait for Dutch to sit us down around the fire and tell us all about why he despises the rich, and how he plans to rob every last dime off them.

 

 

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BretMaverick777
7 hours ago, SneakyDeaky said:

I can't wait for Dutch to sit us down around the fire and tell us all about why he despises the rich, and how he plans to rob every last dime off them.

 

 

He's a Commie.

For real, I'm willing to bet that one of those books in his tent is The Communist Manifesto.  He seems to run his camp like a commune, with equal roles for just about everybody, and no discrimination by race or gender.  Even Micah Bell talks about the redistribution of property.   The wanted poster for Dutch says he has "un-American ideals," and even Rockstar's write-up describes him as an anarchist.  

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SinisterRaccoon
On 9/6/2018 at 12:47 AM, PapasHota said:

So he f*cked his own daughter.

*Sweet home Alabama plays*

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Peckinpah
On 9/6/2018 at 1:12 PM, BretMaverick777 said:

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Just added moments ago from Rockstar Twitter

Looks a bit like Al Swearengen in this one knife and all, a little easter egg perhaps 😊

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