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RP2012

What are the chances that Jack is actually Dutch's kid?

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RP2012

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the nose, the eyes, the lip posture...

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Billyiqbal
2 hours ago, RP2012 said:

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the nose, the eyes, the lip posture...

I did have a think about this also....

 

my theory is that John leaves the gang due to dutch going insane and getting shot on that failed robbery, but John's last straw is when Dutchj maybe forces himself on abigail. leading to John realising Dutch is going crazy and therefore tries to sell out the gang leading to him getting shot.

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gonnaenodaethat

If I were a gamblin' man ahd say 50/50

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Cutter De Blanc

Pretty sure Jack isn't John's biological son

He looks like a few people, but John isn't one of them

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Lemoyne outlaw

its possible. dutch did say the whole gang had Abigail. maybe uncle is the father. remember in one mission when john and jack talk about if uncle was really their uncle. john said no but he might be a bunch of peoples fathers. could that have been a subtle hint? probably not but just something i thought of.

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Mirokunite

mfw we all had her.

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Little Big Man

You forgot Roofus.

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BretMaverick777

Dutch was always jealous as hell of John.

Their first reunion after 5 years....the first thing he asks about is Abigail.  The second is Jack. 

"That makes John a better man."   Yep....and that's what ate at Dutch Van Der Linde for the rest of his life.  

 

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Hmmm nice bike

Maury DLC confirmed

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AGNT009

Dayum! If they left that thread unsaid all these years, wow. I mean, he looks just like Dutch, never noticed that. Thats all kinds of effed up. Which means they'll probably confirm it with a scene of Dutch screwing Abigail while John is away and they'll mention Jacks birthday and make it obvious to the gamer Dutch put his seed in before John did. 

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Cutter De Blanc

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AGNT009

Just played final Dutch mission. In the tunnel on the way up to the cave exit Dutch says Jack is "another whore's son." So he's not even Abigails son either. They adopted him. His mother probably dies. His father may still be Dutch, but Dutch isnt letting that out at his death. Maybe Dutch knows he's the boys father when John and Abigail want to care for him after his mother dies, but Dutch doesnt let on he knows or thinks he's the father. I doubt the new girl in the gang is the mother either. Either RDR2 will be doing a lot of time jumping, or Jack is going to have to be a newborn baby at the beginning of the game, or it gets explained early on they adopted him. 

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AGNT009

Interesting, I replayed that mission to verify I heard him correctly, and this time he doesnt say it at all. Before he said it as he was climbing up a ladder, and shooting back at you. Interesting critical dialogue that doesnt play every playthrough. 

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Baked English Beans
1 hour ago, AGNT009 said:

Just played final Dutch mission. In the tunnel on the way up to the cave exit Dutch says Jack is "another whore's son." So he's not even Abigails son either. They adopted him. His mother probably dies. His father may still be Dutch, but Dutch isnt letting that out at his death. Maybe Dutch knows he's the boys father when John and Abigail want to care for him after his mother dies, but Dutch doesnt let on he knows or thinks he's the father. I doubt the new girl in the gang is the mother either. Either RDR2 will be doing a lot of time jumping, or Jack is going to have to be a newborn baby at the beginning of the game, or it gets explained early on they adopted him. 

He meant Jack is "just another whore's son", as in he's a son of a whore, just like John.

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Jerking For Soup

nah it's just the moustache. 

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AGNT009
2 hours ago, Baked English Beans said:

He meant Jack is "just another whore's son", as in he's a son of a whore, just like John.

Yeah I guess thats true too. But they could change it into my meaning lol. One thing is for sure, listening to all the dialogue again, there is soo much backstory for them to fill in. I can see why they felt they had enough material to make an interesting prequel instead of a new western. 

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silly_nate
On 8/31/2018 at 5:47 PM, Mirokunite said:

 

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Arthur is a sexy man 😭 Abigail is a lucky woman if she had a piece👌🏻

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so jack’s facial hair is strikingly similar to Dutch, what if he looked up to Dutch as a kid and that’s why he looks like him?

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SinisterRaccoon

Maury: John Marston, you are not the father 

 

*Audience gasps*

 

John Marston: *Gets angry and fires a revolver into the crowd*

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MadHammerThorsteen
On 8/31/2018 at 11:24 PM, BretMaverick777 said:

Dutch was always jealous as hell of John.

Their first reunion after 5 years....the first thing he asks about is Abigail.  The second is Jack. 

"That makes John a better man."   Yep....and that's what ate at Dutch Van Der Linde for the rest of his life.  

 

Even here, Dutch seems to look much more similar to a grown Jack than John does. But I think Jack has John's eyes. Basically, I think it's reasonable to say Jack is John's, but it wouldn't be surprising to learn that Jack isn't John's.

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dandroid

Jack literally has John's player model in RDR, does he not?

Same face, difference textures.

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Mike R.L.

I personally think that Jack is John's son. I was struck with how much John looks like 1914 Jack in some of these previews of RDR2. However, the whole thing of his parentage being speculative, I expect to be part of the sub-story of RDR2 regardless. 

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Self-Destructive Man

Well, Abigail's last name in RDR II is Roberts, meaning that they still weren't married back then. So maybe she and Dutch had some kind of relationship or a one-night stand and she got pregnant before she and John got together. Dutch in RDR II looks an awful lot like adult Jack, and maybe it's not a coincidence.

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MARKUS.

At the beginning I thought this would be a troll post but my brain just exploded

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Gtaman_92
On 8/31/2018 at 7:47 PM, Mirokunite said:

mfw we all had her.

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This post made me burst out laughing. 😂😂😂

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tsto
6 hours ago, Mafia Assassin® said:

Well, Abigail's last name in RDR II is Roberts, meaning that they still weren't married back then. So maybe she and Dutch had some kind of relationship or a one-night stand and she got pregnant before she and John got together. Dutch in RDR II looks an awful lot like adult Jack, and maybe it's not a coincidence.

I've never considered this but it sounds like an excellent theory, this will be quite interesting if they delve into it deeper in the storyline.

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MadHammerThorsteen

Obviously, Jack is Herr Muller's son!

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Zeldabewbz
On 8/31/2018 at 12:29 PM, RP2012 said:

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the nose, the eyes, the lip posture...

What if Jack is Annabelle and Dutch's kid??? Probably not but it would be very cool considering Dutch loved her and was killed by Colm

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brose_sfr

Dutch treats the gang like family. 

 

he'd treat Jack like a king if there was a chance Jack was his actual son. 

 

also doubt Dutch would lay down with camp trash as it would be disrespectful to Annabelle's memory. 

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MaGicBush

Zero chance. 

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DirtCheap

You insist he's Dutch's son?

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