What is the Point of Using Assault Rifles, When Machine Guns are Better in Every Way?

[SlightlyAboveAverage]

Machine Guns apparently have greater Damage, Fire Rate, Accuracy, and Range. So what is the point of using Assault Rifles when Machine Guns are better in every way?

 

(By the way, this is coming from a player who has been dedicated to using ARs. As a long-time PVP and RNG player, ARs are my go-to weapon almost all of the time. But I never questioned why I stuck to ARs, I'm hoping that you guys can help me out here.)

 

Oh, and by the way, why do RNG players exclusively use MGs? And why do free-aim players also stick to ARs? It doesn't make sense to me.

[Lonely-Martin]

When playing run and gun, often the strongest gun helps as it's often a case of who draws first/hits the face first, lol.

 

When playing a more tactical/crafty game the element of surprise can win out, weaker guns (as a preferred weapon) or silenced one's can be useful more.

[SlightlyAboveAverage]

29 minutes ago, KWF1981 said:

When playing run and gun, often the strongest gun helps as it's often a case of who draws first/hits the face first, lol.

 

When playing a more tactical/crafty game the element of surprise can win out, weaker guns (as a preferred weapon) or silenced one's can be useful more.

Yeah but, in RNG, all the players exclusively use ARs, not MGs. In fact, MGs are horribly frowned upon in RNG.

[Lonely-Martin]

18 minutes ago, SlightlyAboveAverage said:

Yeah but, in RNG, all the players exclusively use ARs, not MGs. In fact, MGs are horribly frowned upon in RNG.

Ahh, fair play. I'm not a big PvP guy, and see lots of crappy DM's if and when I do that don't have rules like that, and this confused me...

 

1 hour ago, SlightlyAboveAverage said:

Oh, and by the way, why do RNG players exclusively use MGs?

...lol.

 

It's just the recoil that catches me out, otherwise, if they're using them, you probably should.

[StangOne50]

When you are talking about deathmatches(Im not a dm guy btw) imo the gun does not make as much as a difference as the lag and connections from the other players. GTAO servers are horrible. I dont think its possible for the game to keep track of every bullet that comes from 10 different players in 1 dm and you end up with alot of lag and alot of BS.

Its the same in free roam. Idk how many times Ive spent seconds shooting at a players head only for them to 1 shot kill me lol

I believe the player with the worst internet usually will do fairly well in DMs or gun fights in general.

I think I recall Gaffa mentioning that the assault rifle mk2 version actually has the best accuracy or maybe the smallest accuracy spread, not sure exactly.

Edited August 19, 2018 by StangOne50

[Bloodytears1666]

3 hours ago, SlightlyAboveAverage said:

Oh, and by the way, why do RNG players exclusively use MGs? And why do free-aim players also stick to ARs? It doesn't make sense to me.

Not like RNG even been intended to play this way. RNG died on last gen, that's why.

[SlightlyAboveAverage]

Thanks for all the replies. I guess I'm just still confused as to the pros and cons of each ones. The noted statistics in-game aren't accurate, so everything is down to user experience. When it comes down to ballistic weaponry, the only classes that seem to matter are ARs, MGs, Snipers, and maybe the AP pistol. SMGs are pretty much obsoleted by the previously noted.

 

Clearly though, ARs seem to be the more balanced weapon type when compared to MGs. But I keep getting shredded by MG-using players whenever I go up against them. It seems like no matter what, unless you get the jump on them, using an AR against an MG will just get you destroyed.

[SlightlyAboveAverage]

22 hours ago, Bloodytears1666 said:

Not like RNG even been intended to play this way. RNG died on last gen, that's why.

My mistake, I accidentally made a typo. I meant to say "AR/ARs", I didn't mean to say that RNG players exclusively use MGs. Silly me.

[Bloodytears1666]

49 minutes ago, SlightlyAboveAverage said:

I guess I'm just still confused as to the pros and cons of each ones.

It's gta online, nothing to be confused. The most out of balance weapon is the choice of crowd. People flying Deluxo and using MG and RPG, everyone else just making their life harder. No rules.

[SlightlyAboveAverage]

21 minutes ago, Bloodytears1666 said:

It's gta online, nothing to be confused. The most out of balance weapon is the choice of crowd. People flying Deluxo and using MG and RPG, everyone else just making their life harder. No rules.

Lol, I'm aware. I just like playing with a little bit more integrity and sportsmanship I suppose. Mind you, this post, and my many other topic posts have been specifically talking about hosted DMs, not freeroam combat. 

 

While it is entirely okay to use whatever you want, I wish to steer clear of "cheap" or "cheesy" strats. 

 

There are weapons and weapon classes in GTA Online that are just straight-up obsolete, like SMG, but it would seem like ARs and MGs are often within close competition with each other for holding the title of "best weapon/weapon class". 

 

I personally just like sticking to my guns, which, in this case, would be ARs. 

 

I'm just trying to figure out if there's any reason why I should use ARs now, when, ahem... MGs seem to be better in every way. Minus the horrendous recoil and lack of suppressor. 

"The most out of balance weapon is the choice of crowd."

 

Gotta say though, after re-reading your reply, you really do have a point. I suppose I'm fighting a losing battle. Assault Rifles may take more skill to use and may be more balanced in general and for general situations, but I"m trying to play clean in a dirty warzone.

 

Like I said, I understand that in a DM, the objective is to kill the most and die the least... I guess I just wanted to maintain a certain level of integrity. I guess I just don't want to "lower myself", you know? I feel like if I start doing what everyone else is doing, I'm losing to myself. 

 

I would consider myself an above-average player. I normally win almost every deathmatch I play with a staggeringly K/D ratio. But whenever I go up against someone using a MG, (and naturally I"m always using my trusty Special Carbine MK 2/Carbine Rifle MK 2) I always end up getting destroyed.

 

I guess even the best ARs can't compete against even the most basic MG. To try to would just be shooting yourself in the foot.

[Bloodytears1666]

5 hours ago, SlightlyAboveAverage said:

Gotta say though, after re-reading your reply, you really do have a point. I suppose I'm fighting a losing battle. Assault Rifles may take more skill to use and may be more balanced in general and for general situations, but I"m trying to play clean in a dirty warzone.

 

Like I said, I understand that in a DM, the objective is to kill the most and die the least... I guess I just wanted to maintain a certain level of integrity. I guess I just don't want to "lower myself", you know? I feel like if I start doing what everyone else is doing, I'm losing to myself. 

 

I would consider myself an above-average player. I normally win almost every deathmatch I play with a staggeringly K/D ratio. But whenever I go up against someone using a MG, (and naturally I"m always using my trusty Special Carbine MK 2/Carbine Rifle MK 2) I always end up getting destroyed.

 

I guess even the best ARs can't compete against even the most basic MG. To try to would just be shooting yourself in the foot.

If you gasped that there is no way to counter MG at open area, why try? If your goal to proof something, then ok, but if point to win a battle - key is tactics. Simply not rational coming to sniper battle on roofs with a handgun, it's possible to archive kills, but is not worth an effort. You right about DM like a war and who want to play should match, don't get framed with such limitation, when time is right for a rifle - better use rifle, when look at perfect spot for a rocket - let it be launcher, and if it's open area with crazy mothe*f*cker holding MG - use MG or change a situation.

 

Integrity may not synonym of adaptation, but professional approach is to be ready for a twist. 

[BOOGIEMAN219]

Fight mg with mg and go for headshots, nothing cheap about that.

Edited August 23, 2018 by BOOGIEMAN219

[Tomtomsengermany]

Its easier to make headshots with assault rifles as they dont push around that much. Far less recoil.

 

 

[Sanches]

In video games i consider visual appearence before the actual stats. I always use weapons/vehicles i visually like instead the ones who has better stats unless there's no other choice.

 

Also stats in GTAO don't work out that much since there's like 50% of shots are being registered.

Edited August 26, 2018 by Sanches

[whywontyoulisten]

Every time I've been shot by someone on foot in freeroam, it's always been the pew pew sound of the Assault Shotgun, never MG or assault rifles.

[Rumblebud]

I've only ever heard the ambient gunshots of the Special Carbine, Combat MG, or Assault Shotgun.

[Juanitoelduro]

I still use them because they have controllable recoil and some of them look cool while shooting them, like the Carbine MK2 in black.

[Dr.Rosenthal]

I only use Combat MG Mk II for PvP, and occasionally the Heavy Revolver Mk II with hollow points. Close range I might use Assault Shotgun or Pump Shotgun Mk II with explosive shells, and long range I use sniper accordingly.

 

But I agree, I never use assault rifles in PvP (anymore). I do like to use them during heists though, on medium-range targets - but that's mostly because a) they can be silenced, and b) they can have flashlights.

[Sil3ntWr4th_-]

the special carbine rifle is great and effective especially when getting headshots but MG'S do have a whole lot of firepower!

[effenG]

As the Ammu-Nation clerk so eloquently puts it: 

"It ain't the size of the gun in the fight it's the size of the fight in the g... Aww, f*ck that. It's the size of the gun"

[Rumblebud]

Special Carbine with a Drum Magazine attachment was my primary weapon of choice for almost every gunfight, activity, or close-combat PvP match i've done.

These rifles are probably known best for a balance of accuracy and firepower, which means you can land some good kills if you master the art of headshots.

 

Never really needed the MG's in this case.

[Rumblebud]

On 8/19/2018 at 8:51 AM, Bloodytears1666 said:

Not like RNG even been intended to play this way. RNG died on last gen, that's why.

Reliving the glory days of PS3 has some unexpected surprises; still found plenty of...those players. Presumably flat broke 12 y/o kids who still think K/D matters on old consoles. They desperately try to invite players to RNG deathmatches ("tryhard training grounds") and not even play properly by inducing the rocket spam around each corner.

 

So, yeah...it's still happening.

[Bolototu]

I just like the looks of the carbine mk2