Kicked from session for no reason

[Big Molio]

21 minutes ago, hispls said:

Would you really feel better if you spawned into a session, started doing some solo work then 8 other players got in their troll-mobiles and teamed up on you to try to chase you out of their little party?

Sounds like nearly every session I land in.

 

"Look there's an 830 rank guy, let's go get him because that will make us better than an 830 rank guy and so we can call ourselves 830 rank guys too!!!"

 

 

Edited August 13, 2018 by Big Molio

[hispls]

Just now, Big Molio said:

Sounds like nearly every session I land in.

 

"Look there's an 830 rank guy, let's go get him!!!"

 

 

 

There's of course always the tough-guy who will always sucker punch the biggest guy in the bar.

 

Legit high level players are rarely troublemakers.  Honestly I rarely even see legit high levels in full sessions anymore at all, just bump into them in 1-3 person sessions or on missions or similar.

[whywontyoulisten]

Evidently my AFKing in the nightclub was too threatening for the last group of players I encountered.

[Big Molio]

Worse than the kicking, is the quitting...

 

Quitting in Freemode from players who lose at (or who are about to lose) the PvP jobs is epidemic.

Edited August 13, 2018 by Big Molio

[Lonely-Martin]

1 minute ago, Big Molio said:

Worse than the kicking, is the quitting...

 

Quitting in Freemode from players who lose at (or who are about to lose) the PvP jobs is epidemic.

Plagued racing on old gen though. Tedious all round to get regular good games. As we know, heists are a minefield too, lol.

[Nutduster]

1 minute ago, Big Molio said:

Worse than the kicking, is the quitting...

 

Quitting in Freemode from players who lose at (or who are about to lose) the PvP jobs is epidemic.

 

The kicking bothers me more.  But the quitting from VIP jobs is definitely rampant.  If I steal someone's Hostile Takeover briefcase, there's at least a 50% chance that player quits before I can deliver.  At least they did this the right way later on with Import/Export - if you steal a car and the guy quits, you are still allowed to deliver it.

[Guest Member2756931]

Early quitting happens in every game, not just GTA.

 

Some games would penalise the early quitters, I miss that.

[ScrappyBauer]

At least we griefers know what we are, these people live on denial. If you wanted to play inside your permanent bubble so much you could very well use mtu or firewall rules or whatever, but you choose to hijack a game that is tailor-made for griefers and trolls and try to force your stupid mentality on everyone else when it's clear Rockstar doesn't want it that way, i mean you're just asking for trouble, and yeah sure you can petition all you want and bitch all you want, but the game is gonna be that way forever, because the majority of people playing online like messing with each other and that is a fact. If you really wanted to play an exclusively PVE game about crime and making money i'd recommend PAYDAY 2, but we all know you are not going to do that sooo yeah GL&HF... if you can.

[No Use For A Name]

8 minutes ago, ScrappyBauer said:

At least we griefers know what we are, these people live on denial. If you wanted to play inside your permanent bubble so much you could very well use mtu or firewall rules or whatever, but you choose to hijack a game that is tailor-made for griefers and trolls and try to force your stupid mentality on everyone else when it's clear Rockstar doesn't want it that way, i mean you're just asking for trouble, and yeah sure you can petition all you want and bitch all you want, but the game is gonna be that way forever, because the majority of people playing online like messing with each other and that is a fact. If you really wanted to play an exclusively PVE game about crime and making money i'd recommend PAYDAY 2, but we all know you are not going to do that sooo yeah GL&HF... if you can.

 

Moron. 

[BlackMilk]

2 hours ago, No Use For A Name said:

 

Moron. 

Straight to the point!

 

But I guess this forum is full of groups of people calling other groups of people* despicable and then trying to justify their own antisocial behaviour. Does get a little tiring when noone is ever willing to see where someone else is coming from and everyone just claims the moral high ground without having a real reason to do so.

 

EDIT: *Plainly forgetting to put in some words now. Brain has melted.

Edited August 13, 2018 by BlackMilk

[D9fred95]

I gotta ask, what is up with all this "There was an error, returning to Single Player" crap I've been constantly getting. GTAO is virtually unplayable for me now unless I use the NAT method. I literally can't last 5+ minutes in a lobby anymore. The NAT method is no longer an exploit but literally the only way I can play GTAO now. It's that bad for me, serious. 

 

It's not my connection because this never happens with any other game I own nor in a lobby by myself or god forbid an actual nice group of players.

[PkUnzipper]

1 hour ago, Nutduster said:

 

That doesn't work though.  You can't be vote-kicked during missions.  That's why the VIP job thing is effective - the game will keep you in and only let you be kicked after the job ends.  Same with sales from (as far as I can tell) any business.  It shouldn't kick you until the sale is finished, either via successful delivery or your stuff being destroyed.  (Caveat - I guess I don't know if PC is different, but I know you can't do this on consoles.)

You may be right. But I think you still can (on PC) and especially if you've got lvl 5000+ potential modders in the lobby.

 

Typically play with lobby on mute. After doing a supply run for my bunker, parked my character dancing in my club and went AFK for a couple mins.  Came back to find text violently spamming my screen. Turned off mute and was victimized with audial rape by this with one guy screaming about being trolled & loosing his CEO shipment. How a crew was kicking him from the lobby. 

 

Checked the player menu and was surprised to find my originally quiet 5 player lobby of peaceful MCs & CEOs had magically multiplied to some 23 or so players in the brief mins I was AFK in the club. Some 10+ or so of these new players were in the same crew. Were a mix of CEO/MC/Associates. A good number of the remaining random lobby population were working as Associates for this crew. That left some 3-4 lone wolf & independent CEOs/randoms like myself.

 

Half the lobby population being in the same crew = 1st red flag.  That some 5-6 of these crew had K/D > 2 = 2nd red flag. Fact crew had a lvl 5000 member (who kept hanging out in his facility the whole time with zero JP) = full red alert.

 

Moments later, the victimized player is screaming he was being kicked from the lobby. Then his gamer tag disappeared. Maybe watching some of those crew members selling his stuff triggered him into trying to rage quit while the sale was still live? The game allowed him to do that while it was still live? Checked the chat and saw the extent of the hate text spam. Heard them laughing over the success of their trolling fest. And how their lvl 5000 modder was now spawning WTF saucers and other sh*t around the lobby. 

 

Decided it was time to quit that toxic session for good.   

 

Before leaving, checked this player's status & confirmed his claim. Apparently that crew & their non crew associates were trying to kick him. This may have been possible since this was more than 50% of the lobby population. I personally hadn't voted however, since I didn't even knew he existed up to that point. So if it wasn't a unanimous vote, then it would seem players can get kicked during the sale missions. Either that or their modder crew member had something to do with it.

[secrecy274]

36 minutes ago, ScrappyBauer said:

At least we griefers know what we are, these people live on denial. If you wanted to play inside your permanent bubble so much you could very well use mtu or firewall rules or whatever, but you choose to hijack a game that is tailor-made for griefers and trolls and try to force your stupid mentality on everyone else when it's clear Rockstar doesn't want it that way, i mean you're just asking for trouble, and yeah sure you can petition all you want and bitch all you want, but the game is gonna be that way forever, because the majority of people playing online like messing with each other and that is a fact. If you really wanted to play an exclusively PVE game about crime and making money i'd recommend PAYDAY 2, but we all know you are not going to do that sooo yeah GL&HF... if you can.

I don't know... I've faced plenty of griefers (and tryhards) who lack any form of self awareness.

[Lonely-Martin]

53 minutes ago, ScrappyBauer said:

At least we griefers know what we are, these people live on denial. If you wanted to play inside your permanent bubble so much you could very well use mtu or firewall rules or whatever, but you choose to hijack a game that is tailor-made for griefers and trolls and try to force your stupid mentality on everyone else when it's clear Rockstar doesn't want it that way, i mean you're just asking for trouble, and yeah sure you can petition all you want and bitch all you want, but the game is gonna be that way forever, because the majority of people playing online like messing with each other and that is a fact. If you really wanted to play an exclusively PVE game about crime and making money i'd recommend PAYDAY 2, but we all know you are not going to do that sooo yeah GL&HF... if you can.

And yet the last DLC allows all except sell in invite sessions, lol.

 

As this game has much PvE, it's clear a PvE way is as intended as a PvP one though, lol. The game was made attractive to crews to team up and do things together. Look at heists.

 

By all means, be bitter. But don't ignore what GTA is, lol.

[Black-Dragon96]

8 hours ago, YouKnowWhoIAm said:

What I find funny is that half of those arguing that kicking is right claim not to do it. So it's not a necessity at all.

 

It depends on the player if it is a necessity or not.

For me it personaly is not since I'm mostly with my crew and the people who dare to f*ck with us got multiple military vehicles and several rifles up their a$$ seconds later.

We got the firepower and the knowledge needed to deal with most threats. 15-20 people are enough to get a sale to safety and to deal with multiple attackers.

A smaller, less experienced crew does not have this kind of firepower or this experience. 5 people doing a sale (most of them driving a sale vehicle) aint gonna stop 1-2 griefers attacking the sale simultaneously.

[Guest Member2756931]

You need 15 to 20 players tp make a sale?! Wow, no wonder you get scared by a dude afk in his club or a passive guy buying a t-shirt. Funniest sh*t I've read for a long time!

[Black-Dragon96]

44 minutes ago, YouKnowWhoIAm said:

You need 15 to 20 players tp make a sale?! Wow, no wonder you get scared by a dude afk in his club or a passive guy buying a t-shirt. Funniest sh*t I've read for a long time!

You apparently got some reading issues.

Where did I say I need 15-20 people to make a sale? I said that 15-20 experienced people provide enough firepower to get rid of hostile players without kicking them pointing out that a smaller group of less experienced players does not really have said option.

[Guest Member2756931]

1 hour ago, Black-Dragon96 said:

You apparently got some reading issues.

Where did I say I need 15-20 people to make a sale? I said that 15-20 experienced people provide enough firepower to get rid of hostile players without kicking them pointing out that a smaller group of less experienced players does not really have said option.

Urm, how about just here?

 

4 hours ago, Black-Dragon96 said:

We got the firepower and the knowledge needed to deal with most threats. 15-20 people are enough to get a sale to safety and to deal with multiple attackers. 

 

You're quite rude really aren't you? I don't see how a disability is relevant here and certainly don't appreciate people making offensive remarks regarding disabilities. I don't have any problems reading however your comments are extremely offensive and unrequired. Ribbing about someone having 15-20 players to ensure their sale gets to safety is quite different to being offensive about reading/learning disabilities. Such a horrible thing and so uncalled for. Keep your derogatory remarks to yourself.

[Black-Dragon96]

43 minutes ago, YouKnowWhoIAm said:

You're quite rude really aren't you? I don't see how a disability is relevant here and certainly don't appreciate people making offensive remarks regarding disabilities. I don't have any problems reading however your comments are extremely offensive and unrequired. Ribbing about someone having 15-20 players to ensure their sale gets to safety is quite different to being offensive about reading/learning disabilities. Such a horrible thing and so uncalled for. Keep your derogatory remarks to yourself.

 

Funny how you need to take the sentence out of its context to be able to proove your point.

If you see the sentences around it, it is clear that I am saying that we dont need to kick players because we got enough firepower to keep a griefer (or multiple of them) busy so the sale crew does not have to worry about any attackers.

 

Not sure whats rude about saying that someone got reading issues when he clearly missunderstood what another person said (not once but multiple times now), but ok.

There is a pretty popular saying in german going: "Wer lesen kann ist klar im Vorteil." wich is a joking take on someone claiming that another person said some in a written form, that said person clearly did not say.

[Guest Member2756931]

@Black-Dragon96 Out of it's context? What context was it meant to be in then? Clearly you stated that you have enough firepower and you have 15-20 people to ensure your sales make it. You have also said the exact same thing in your last response, you have enough fire power to keep a greifer busy. But you didn't say this? You make very little sense, especially when you trackback but end up digging yourself in a deeper hole.

 

However none of that negates your obnoxious, offensive remarks regarding a potential learning disability. It's not the first time I have read that you've been extremely rude towards someone who you take issue with due to their opinion. Pretty much every topic which I have seen you post in you have been disrespectful or rude towards someone claiming that they don't read very well.

 

So you're claiming you didn't post either of your posts that I quoted? OK then.

[Smokewood]

6 hours ago, No Use For A Name said:

 

Moron. 

Your pic is of President Trump killing himself and you called HIM a moron?  lol

5 hours ago, Black-Dragon96 said:

 

It depends on the player if it is a necessity or not.

For me it personaly is not since I'm mostly with my crew and the people who dare to f*ck with us got multiple military vehicles and several rifles up their a$$ seconds later.

We got the firepower and the knowledge needed to deal with most threats. 15-20 people are enough to get a sale to safety and to deal with multiple attackers.

A smaller, less experienced crew does not have this kind of firepower or this experience. 5 people doing a sale (most of them driving a sale vehicle) aint gonna stop 1-2 griefers attacking the sale simultaneously.

15 - 20 lol I roll with 1 or 2 friends and it is plenty to take on anything, even your 15 - 20 man crew.

[Acesez]

at this stage in the game i dont bother with small sessions even if i do fet in one i leave cause i enjoy pvp

[BlackMilk]

1 hour ago, YouKnowWhoIAm said:

Urm, how about just here?

 

 

You're quite rude really aren't you? I don't see how a disability is relevant here and certainly don't appreciate people making offensive remarks regarding disabilities. I don't have any problems reading however your comments are extremely offensive and unrequired. Ribbing about someone having 15-20 players to ensure their sale gets to safety is quite different to being offensive about reading/learning disabilities. Such a horrible thing and so uncalled for. Keep your derogatory remarks to yourself.

Okay, there's a bit of a misunderstanding happening here.

 

Black-Dragon96 did NOT say that he actually needs fifteen to twenty players to back him up to make a sale. He explained that the added protection (which was never said to be mandatory for him) made sure he/they never have to kick a peaceful stranger.

 

That's followed by your "ribbing" which was based on you misunderstanding his post. You get a "ribbing" back which isn't even in the form of an inaccurate statement. You didn't correctly read what he said. That's got absolutely nothing to do with disabilities is by no means "extremely" offensive. You tried making fun of someone and got (by online gaming community standards) a very mild response. You should expect this kind of response when you attempt to make fun of somebody online. If they're not your friend, it's unlikely they'll interpret your jabs as slightly sarcastic and friendly.

 

Either that or you're just looking to create drama for no reason. But that would make you a troll. And you're no troll, right?

 

BlackDragon, if you run into people who seem either incapable or unwiling to talking like reasonable adults, it's best to just ignore them straight away. Say what you need to say once and don't read their posts again. It's nothing but a waste of time, unless you find some humour in it ofcourse.

Edited August 13, 2018 by BlackMilk

[Guest Member2756931]

Where's the misunderstanding? Dude stated that he has the firepower and 15-20 people are enough to make a sale. TWICE.

 

The only thing I said which was inaccurate was that, despite having the 15-20 people backing up his sales, he still feels kicking an afk player or passive guy buying a t-shirt justified. I'll accept that part was inaccurate and there to exaggerate the patheticness of the entire kick situation.

 

There's a difference between taking the piss that someone has 15-20 people to make a sale and someone claiming another has a learning disorder - something which black dragon has said many times to many people. I apologise if my taking offence to his comments seems childish to you. His rudeness was not required nor appreciated. His comments were not required, he could have made his point without offensive comments, much like in all of the other threads he has made similar comments to other people in. You think blatent attempts to offend someone by stating they have a learning disorder is mature and acting like an adult?

 

Looks like this one has run it's course. I've said all I'm going to say on the matter, it's pretty clear that there are huge double standards which some will completely ignore. I doubt that'll change. I doubt there will be any courtesy towards those lone players who wind up having a crew or bunch of friends join them. Welcome to Grand Theft Misuse of Game Features.

[Lonely-Martin]

 

18 minutes ago, YouKnowWhoIAm said:

...much like in all of the other threads he has made similar comments to other people in.

With a line like this, I gotta ask... Do we indeed KnowWhoYouAre?

 

Sorry, call it a suspicious mind, lol. But like BlackMilk says, it's just a misunderstanding. Just funny how in those other threads Black Dragon's English grammar has been used against him. As you'd have seen through reading old threads he participated in, of course. And you're username is just ironic at least, lol.

 

Don't disagree though, nothing will change until R* fix their broken game, and this subject has been beaten to death.

Edited August 13, 2018 by KWF1981

[Black-Dragon96]

17 hours ago, YouKnowWhoIAm said:

Out of it's context? What context was it meant to be in then? Clearly you stated that you have enough firepower and you have 15-20 people to ensure your sales make it. You have also said the exact same thing in your last response, you have enough fire power to keep a greifer busy. But you didn't say this? You make very little sense, especially when you trackback but end up digging yourself in a deeper hole. 

16 hours ago, YouKnowWhoIAm said:

Where's the misunderstanding? Dude stated that he has the firepower and 15-20 people are enough to make a sale. TWICE.

The context of the sentences around the sentence you quoted.

I did not say that I need 15 people to make a sale. I said that having 15 people (allied people for that matter) are enough to not have to kick other players out, because these 15-20 people are enough to deal with the other player/s shoult he/they turn out hostile while the sale crew can get their stuff to safety.

 

You missunderstanding that not once but TWICE (with an explanation the second time), while other people do understand it, tells me that you either 1) have a reading problem or (since you claim not to have one) 2.) are a cheap troll.

Its not my fault that you seem to have such a thin skin seeing that you get offended by what I wrote aswell as feeling the need to attack other players for trying to kick you. Welcome to the internet pal. Having a thick skin is pretty much mandatory on the internet.

Your writing style and the things you write (example: "much like in all of the other threads he has made similar comments to other people in.") also lead me to believe that you are the alternative account of demonic spaceman, wich in turn would explain a lot.

 

Either way, I said what I came here to say.

Peace out.

[Hchgfuguufy]

This pisses me off so bad to the point i no longer care about the f*cking law! I keep getting kicked for no f*cking reason what so ever so i swear to god! If a person kicks me one more time for no f*cking reason i will dedicate my life to finding that person in real life and killing them and if i cant get to them ill find someone they love and kill them instead!