The Bitch and Moan Thread : After Hours Edition.

[theyorkshirejo]

37 minutes ago, Up2NoGood45 said:

Every time I make a sale I rotate all my techs to other tasks.  This has stopped all issues for me.  I agree on loving this DLC.  How can you not?  I went from having about 63MIL in the bank, bought the NC, the Terrorbyte, MKII and every other new vehicle including the stupid Scramjet and now my money is up to 131MIL since the NC DLC dropped.  I just bought the Osiris Supercar, upgraded all the new livery vehicles.  This DLC is a money printing machine.  

I can’t count how many times I’ve rotated technicians, switched DJ’s, shut down and restarted my business, bought supplies instead of stealing them, even bought an entirely new forgery business and still absolutely nothing. 

[FrancisBlack]

On 10/11/2018 at 3:13 AM, DominusTaranis said:

Selling all my goods from the club.

1.3 mil and change, profit of 1.2 mil after dongle face gets his cut.
FOLLOW THE HELICOPTER
Sure thing. I know where this is going, I"ll save some time.
I get three quarters of the way to the drop off and realize.

THE f*ckING HELICOPTER STOPS WHEN I GET TOO FAR AWAY.
??????????!!!!!!!???!?!!!?????!?!?!??!???!?!!!!!????!?!?!?!?!?!??!

 

Do you mean behind the teller cage? There's another entrance to the bank that leads up to the offices and then down into the cage. If they didn't lock the door, that is. If you're facing the door on the corner, I believe it's just around the bank to your right.

Both the gold and diamonds can glitch into the wall. You can use it to your advantage and set traps for those greedy biatches that come to steal your goods and sit on the roof, drop proximity mines or sticky bombs and you would be surprised how long people will look for them not realizing that there is no way to get them because they are stuck. Inside the wall. Pretty funny stuff. 

[CadillacBachelor]

17 hours ago, lost-in-emotions said:

In my Opinion the Futo is this:

 

That's Jesse's Jetta, eh? My Uncle had a red Jetta when I was a teenager. I kinda see it. That's why I thought there was a bigger Futo out there?

The wiki says Futo is based on a Toyota car, though.

[LennyGhoul]

I get the annoying as absolutely F*$K all when the Phone rings every goddamn 30 seconds in this game, but the most annoying thing on the planet is when it auto answers regardless what you are doing and FORCES you to stop what you are doing to hang up so you can continue whatever it was you were doing. Happens often when battling cops often. Phone rings, auto answers, I can't shoot now because I have to cancel the phone call. Im dead. I respawn, the dumbass phone rings again, Eat my ass Paige! I'm running from the po po. Boom dead again. Oh look it's Lester this time!  Dead. Respawn. "Ug. Hi there. It's LJT..." eats gun.

 

For the Love of ALL that is HOLY PLEASE ROCKSTAR RELEASE A PATCH TO STOP THE %#$^#&**#((&#^^# PHONE CALLS! I will pay $2,500,000 to make them stop permanently. Whatever it takes. I don't care just make it flipping stop. A cell phone in a video game IS NOT FUN EVER! 

If the next GTA has a cell phone in it, I'm not buying it period. I refuse. That's the dumbest crap of all time, and totally ruins what is otherwise a pretty fun game.

 

Sometimes when I hear that phone ring I want to throw it in the ocean, oh but I can't. I can drop my weapons, and spend my cash, you can eat my cars and destroy things permanently, but there is no way to shut off the damn phone? I mean come on throw us a bone here! 

 

You have to know after all these versions of GTA and EVERYONE'S biggest complaint has always been the stupid phone, that maybe just maybe you'd get the hint. But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. GTA Online's Phone is the worst abuse ever. I'm seriously contemplating shelving the game for good, because I'm so sick of dealing with that non stop badgering. At the very least limit it to one call per NPC and space it out every 5 minutes or so. If you need to get me a message just put the alerts up that you do anyway. (out of stock or whatever)

 

I've even had Paige call me, back to back, while in the Terrorbyte, bitching at me for not using the damn thing, while I was trying to use it! I mean come on put a flag check in there. something. anything!

 

/rage rant

Edited October 15, 2018 by LennyGhoul

[FrancisBlack]

9 hours ago, LennyGhoul said:

I get the annoying as absolutely F*$K all when the Phone rings every goddamn 30 seconds in this game, but the most annoying thing on the planet is when it auto answers regardless what you are doing and FORCES you to stop what you are doing to hang up so you can continue whatever it was you were doing. Happens often when battling cops often. Phone rings, auto answers, I can't shoot now because I have to cancel the phone call. Im dead. I respawn, the dumbass phone rings again, Eat my ass Paige! I'm running from the po po. Boom dead again. Oh look it's Lester this time!  Dead. Respawn. "Ug. Hi there. It's LJT..." eats gun.

 

For the Love of ALL that is HOLY PLEASE ROCKSTAR RELEASE A PATCH TO STOP THE %#$^#&**#((&#^^# PHONE CALLS! I will pay $2,500,000 to make them stop permanently. Whatever it takes. I don't care just make it flipping stop. A cell phone in a video game IS NOT FUN EVER! 

If the next GTA has a cell phone in it, I'm not buying it period. I refuse. That's the dumbest crap of all time, and totally ruins what is otherwise a pretty fun game.

 

Sometimes when I hear that phone ring I want to throw it in the ocean, oh but I can't. I can drop my weapons, and spend my cash, you can eat my cars and destroy things permanently, but there is no way to shut off the damn phone? I mean come on throw us a bone here! 

 

You have to know after all these versions of GTA and EVERYONE'S biggest complaint has always been the stupid phone, that maybe just maybe you'd get the hint. But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. GTA Online's Phone is the worst abuse ever. I'm seriously contemplating shelving the game for good, because I'm so sick of dealing with that non stop badgering. At the very least limit it to one call per NPC and space it out every 5 minutes or so. If you need to get me a message just put the alerts up that you do anyway. (out of stock or whatever)

 

I've even had Paige call me, back to back, while in the Terrorbyte, bitching at me for not using the damn thing, while I was trying to use it! I mean come on put a flag check in there. something. anything!

 

/rage rant

I've gotten good as just ignoring them and learned to answer and hang up in a fraction of a second. But I also think they should be limited to every 10 or 15 minutes. 

10 hours ago, CadillacBachelor said:

That's Jesse's Jetta, eh? My Uncle had a red Jetta when I was a teenager. I kinda see it. That's why I thought there was a bigger Futo out there?

The wiki says Futo is based on a Toyota car, though.

Nice guess but the Futo I'm pretty sure is Japanese car, maybe a Celica rally car? 

Edited October 15, 2018 by FrancisBlack
Sorry I quoted the wrong person and can't get rid of it

[Guest]

Not really B & M here, but this evening I was doing a promo job, the one where you have to pick up a Mule from a gang and make it back to the NC. They've always chased me in equal speedy cars like the Mule (to play fair game, I think), but this time I got 6 cars chasing me down, Kuruma's. What the heck, R*, think I can outrun them? Up hill? 

Has anyone have that happen to them in this particular promo job? I've seen bikers, guys in Buccaneers, even one on a BMX before, but never did they chase me in Kurumas. Had Kurumas harrassing me during NC sales missions, but never on a promo job in an unarmed non armored Mule. How rude!

 

[LennyGhoul]

5 hours ago, McGhee said:

Not really B & M here, but this evening I was doing a promo job, the one where you have to pick up a Mule from a gang and make it back to the NC. They've always chased me in equal speedy cars like the Mule (to play fair game, I think), but this time I got 6 cars chasing me down, Kuruma's. What the heck, R*, think I can outrun them? Up hill? 

Has anyone have that happen to them in this particular promo job? I've seen bikers, guys in Buccaneers, even one on a BMX before, but never did they chase me in Kurumas. Had Kurumas harrassing me during NC sales missions, but never on a promo job in an unarmed non armored Mule. How rude!

 

I've gotten the Karumas before, totally lame.

Equally as frustrating. I had the Bahama Mama trucks mission which is pretty easy with the Buzzard, but my other character doesn't have one yet. So when you try to catch up the them in a car, they drive waaaaaay faster than if a real player can was driving those trucks! These things are zooming across the other side of the map so fast you'd think they were in Hydras! I've seen that a lot in the Hard drive client job too(and other assorted missions). Those cars just don't drive as fast when you collect them as when the AI is driving them. 

[Gridl0k]

The futo (from dori-futo, the japanese for drift - try saying it out loud...) is almost entirely supposed to be an AE86

 

 

Good luck drifting the FWD Jetta

[Sentinel Driver]

There isn't enough incentive to own a nightclub really

except for the opressor mark 2....

[CMCSAVAGE]

2 hours ago, Sentinel Driver said:

There isn't enough incentive to own a nightclub really

except for the opressor mark 2....

LOL

[Guest]

21 hours ago, LennyGhoul said:

I've gotten the Karumas before, totally lame.

Equally as frustrating. I had the Bahama Mama trucks mission which is pretty easy with the Buzzard, but my other character doesn't have one yet. So when you try to catch up the them in a car, they drive waaaaaay faster than if a real player can was driving those trucks! These things are zooming across the other side of the map so fast you'd think they were in Hydras! I've seen that a lot in the Hard drive client job too(and other assorted missions). Those cars just don't drive as fast when you collect them as when the AI is driving them. 

 

Yet more weird stuff with promo jobs this evening. Something is going on with those. Destroying the Bahamas Mamas trucks never got me Wanted stars. This evening, each time I hit the first truck I got a Wanted star. And cops during Headhunter have super aim again, with freaking shotguns. I was just in missile range with my Akula, which they shot down twice this evening. Took only a few of their shots to get it smoking. Very weird. 

Anyway, good profits this evening, and we have a few more to come. Nice! I might pick myself up a Savage, to get all 3 gunship heli's in my hangar. 

Edited October 17, 2018 by Guest

[Malibu Club]

This is the first update that I've gotten bored from. I don't know if I'm just burnt out on the game in general or this update just wasn't great to me, but I haven't touched the game in weeks, maybe a whole month.

[DarkReign27]

Havent done supply missions for almost a year I grab the tank, of course they give the cargobob on that mission a longer hook and extra armor, hmm be nice if that was ours to own oh wait too convenient. Anyway I fly near a hill looks fine but camera angle must have been slightly off the tank clips the hill by MM flips my heli completely upside down, tanks fall on top of me then skids down hill. Able to land, grab the tank try to drive it to the bunker get a quarter there and it starts smoking then blows up instantly from the Savages shooting at it...

 

I drove those tanks many times in the past not even taking the cargobob full blow gun fire for a huge distance yet they blow up now easily hmm very odd, ya well im gonna just get one full bunker and sell be done with their screw the player changes like adding police to all the supply missions. They're lucky people still play this game to be honest, seriously I can just tolerate it since I do the low payout missions. Now they lifted their social media ban on employees to help Red Dead sell, that's great I still won't buy it for full price after what they've been doing to this game's players no way in holy hell lol. If they released a new Max Payne uh um *cough* I'd uh buy that...

Edited October 18, 2018 by DarkReign27

[CMCSAVAGE]

17 hours ago, DarkReign27 said:

ya well im gonna just get one full bunker and sell be done with their screw the player changes like adding police to all the supply missions. 

Work smarter, not harder. Buy supplies for 75k, sell for 420k in LS and make an easy 345k in one run. 

[DarkReign27]

2 hours ago, CMCSAVAGE said:

Work smarter, not harder. Buy supplies for 75k, sell for 420k in LS and make an easy 345k in one run. 

I'm doing that true, was trying to do a few in between buying to top up I bought supplies about 3 times. Im only doing one sell though dont need to do businesses really for now just been saving, getting close to early retirement in the game then I can just fool around without worrying of making money every second with this stuff ha. 

[GLR21]

LSUR is only available in Online, but not in single player GTA 5. I do play more Online than 5 but come on, R*.

[Gridl0k]

It's hard to adequately express what a f*cking joke this game is when they dripfeed a car that's been in since day one, and make it infinitely WORSE.

 

Any Patriot you take into LSC loses all the customisations it spawned with, whether bought or stolen. And you cannot put them back. Want round spots, chrome side exhausts or a bullbar? f*ck you. And you cannot lose the chrome grille either, making any mil-spec Hummer look like...

 

 

And that's before you get to the new light bar which doesn't f*cking... light up.

 

 

Edited October 28, 2018 by Gridl0k

[JWCoward]

I’m taking advantage of the double money and RP for client jobs. But every time I start “robbery in progress” I get the same bank everytime. It’s annoying how there are like 6 banks to rob and i get the same exact one repeatedly.

[J-Scott-D]

19 minutes ago, JWCoward said:

I’m taking advantage of the double money and RP for client jobs. But every time I start “robbery in progress” I get the same bank everytime. It’s annoying how there are like 6 banks to rob and i get the same exact one repeatedly.

There's actually only three. Fleeca Del Perro, The Pacific Standard and a Fleeca location near the prison.

[FrancisBlack]

My xbox is shut down after nearly 9 months of solid playing, maybe I will try another game for while. With 30 million in the bank I no longer need to grind for a while. Because of the Op Mkii and it being the griefers wet dream I find the PVP too stressful most of the time with some jackhole flying around blowing up everyone in the room. The Mkii is just too overpowered for the good of the game. Here are my suggestions to resolve the issues with the mkii. If R* is listening - if I aint playin I aint buying Shark cards. Balance must be restored

 

1. do not nerf the speed - its a great little work horse

2. remove missile lock for ground vehicles

3. switch mkii missiles to buzzard missiles

4. switch to cannons

5. remove missiles/weapons all together

Edited October 29, 2018 by FrancisBlack

[SUICIDA4]

17 minutes ago, FrancisBlack said:

My xbox is shut down after nearly 9 months of solid playing, maybe I will try another game for while. With 30 million in the bank I no longer need to grind for a while. Because of the Op Mkii and it being the griefers wet dream I find the PVP too stressful most of the time with some jackhole flying around blowing up everyone in the room. The Mkii is just too overpowered for the good of the game. Here are my suggestions to resolve the issues with the mkii. If R* is listening - if I aint playin I aint buying Shark cards. Balance must be restored

 

1. do not nerf the speed - its a great little work horse

2. remove missile lock for ground vehicles

3. switch mkii missiles to buzzard missiles

4. switch to cannons

5. remove missiles all together

Number 3 is already done. MK2 has Buzzard missiles.

[FrancisBlack]

2 minutes ago, SUICIDA4 said:

Number 3 is already done. MK2 has Buzzard missiles.

Huh? It has super missiles like the Deluxo/Stromberg/Vigilante/Oppressor. At least if they had the Buzzard missiles the deluxo could take them out pretty easily, but I'm inclined to think this is a missiles vs speed issue and I really don't want them taking away the speed. 

Edited October 29, 2018 by FrancisBlack

[SUICIDA4]

47 minutes ago, FrancisBlack said:

Huh? It has super missiles like the Deluxo/Stromberg/Vigilante/Oppressor

Nope. The only one that have those are  Ruiner 2000, Vigilante, Deluxo and Scramjet. Got them all so I can confirm this. Something like this:

Edited October 29, 2018 by SUICIDA4
Added more info and Gif to explain different type of missile.

[FrancisBlack]

3 minutes ago, SUICIDA4 said:

Nope. The only one that have those are Vigilante, Deluxo and Scramjet. Got them all so I can confirm this.

The buzzard missiles go more straight and do not track like the Mk2. I'll let others chime in here. Regardless whatever missiles it does have its over powered. I have every vehicle so I am also familiar with them. 

Ahh ok so they are in between Buzzard and Deluxo missiles

 

Top tier missiles, the ones that can NOT be dodged (but you can outrun them in a jet): Ruiner 2000, Deluxo and Vigilante

Almost top tier: Stromberg* and Chernobog. The Stromberg missiles move as agile as the top tier ones but they can miss. They also have shorter lock on range. The Chernobog has really long range and the missiles are very very fast but it can miss as well.

Mid tier: Oppressor and homing launcher. Agile, fast, but they can easily miss

Aircraft rockets MK2: Akula, Hunter, Sea Sparrow. They are slightly more agile and accurate than standard aircraft missiles.

Aircraft rockets: Buzzard, Savage and almost any other aircraft. The classic ones we've always seen, very easy to dodge. The Hydra and Lazer ones are slower than the others, while some Smugglers run planes ones are faster.

Trash: Thruster. Absolute worst in the game, slower than anything else, awful tracking

Edited October 29, 2018 by FrancisBlack

[Cheesy_wotsit]

So is this game dead now? Seriously it's been 2 months since I last logged on, I got bored around half way through the AH dripfeed after obtaining enough car shares to make sure I never had to grind again, assuming that AH was going to be the last major update for GTAO. I noticed a feed for GTAO Halloween in my Google feed, didn't even bother looking to see what was in it. I've noticed that some of the less click bait GTAO youtubers have stopped appearing on my Youtube updates as well and even looking in these forums the posts are all old school stuff that's been kicking round for ages, nothing new or interesting, even this thread which used to have at least a half dozen new B and M's every day had it's last post 4 days ago. Has RDR2 really finally killed off GTAO?

[DarkReign27]

3 hours ago, Cheesy_wotsit said:

So is this game dead now? Seriously it's been 2 months since I last logged on, I got bored around half way through the AH dripfeed after obtaining enough car shares to make sure I never had to grind again, assuming that AH was going to be the last major update for GTAO. I noticed a feed for GTAO Halloween in my Google feed, didn't even bother looking to see what was in it. I've noticed that some of the less click bait GTAO youtubers have stopped appearing on my Youtube updates as well and even looking in these forums the posts are all old school stuff that's been kicking round for ages, nothing new or interesting, even this thread which used to have at least a half dozen new B and M's every day had it's last post 4 days ago. Has RDR2 really finally killed off GTAO?

Well for the Xboner version i still have full servers in high population times like weekends or at night. Im not playing it much just doing small things not worth play'n it long I agree but since I'm in protest of Red Dead I still play this. Noticed youtubers have almost all switched to Read Dead maybe it will die doesnt seem to be yet on console.

[Up2NoGood45]

On 11/1/2018 at 12:26 PM, Cheesy_wotsit said:

So is this game dead now? Seriously it's been 2 months since I last logged on, I got bored around half way through the AH dripfeed after obtaining enough car shares to make sure I never had to grind again, assuming that AH was going to be the last major update for GTAO. I noticed a feed for GTAO Halloween in my Google feed, didn't even bother looking to see what was in it. I've noticed that some of the less click bait GTAO youtubers have stopped appearing on my Youtube updates as well and even looking in these forums the posts are all old school stuff that's been kicking round for ages, nothing new or interesting, even this thread which used to have at least a half dozen new B and M's every day had it's last post 4 days ago. Has RDR2 really finally killed off GTAO?

Every lobby I join is full.  It’s not dead.

[Cheesy_wotsit]

Every lobby I join is full.  It’s not dead.

 

You do know that the game uses P2P so unlike the old days of dedicated servers were you could look at the list of servers and see how many are populated and how many are full you have no idea just how many people are actually playing. Using your example at the end of BFBC2 life their were over 200 dedicated servers yet only a dozen or so would be fully populated ergo I would join one of those, servers full so using your logic the games not dead? 200 servers but only 10 of them are full is a game that is pretty dead but because I've joined one that's full it means the games not dead. GTAO hides the servers so all you see is how many folk are playing in that tiny eco system you join. It's full ergo not dead, it's empty it must be dead?

 

Now let me clarify I am not saying their are 200 or 300 people playing GTA, their are no doubt hundreds of thousands still playing what I am highlighting is the fallacy in assuming that because YOU join full servers the game is not dead.

 

No what I meant is is the eco system that goes on around the game; the people talking about it, being excited about upon coming content, playing for fun rather than because they feel they have to because of how much time they have already put in, people creating media based on the game; youtube content, articles, guides, commentary is THAT dead. Just to point a finger here this topic had no one posting for four days and the last two posts have been in direct response to my post. The last new post in these forums about GTAO was posted on the 27th of October and is now locked so the last still active post was created on the 21st of October, 3 weeks ago!! Perhaps I should have asked does anyone actually still care about GTAO rather than is it dead?

[Up2NoGood45]

13 hours ago, Cheesy_wotsit said:

 

 

 

You do know that the game uses P2P so unlike the old days of dedicated servers were you could look at the list of servers and see how many are populated and how many are full you have no idea just how many people are actually playing. Using your example at the end of BFBC2 life their were over 200 dedicated servers yet only a dozen or so would be fully populated ergo I would join one of those, servers full so using your logic the games not dead? 200 servers but only 10 of them are full is a game that is pretty dead but because I've joined one that's full it means the games not dead. GTAO hides the servers so all you see is how many folk are playing in that tiny eco system you join. It's full ergo not dead, it's empty it must be dead?

 

Now let me clarify I am not saying their are 200 or 300 people playing GTA, their are no doubt hundreds of thousands still playing what I am highlighting is the fallacy in assuming that because YOU join full servers the game is not dead.

 

No what I meant is is the eco system that goes on around the game; the people talking about it, being excited about upon coming content, playing for fun rather than because they feel they have to because of how much time they have already put in, people creating media based on the game; youtube content, articles, guides, commentary is THAT dead. Just to point a finger here this topic had no one posting for four days and the last two posts have been in direct response to my post. The last new post in these forums about GTAO was posted on the 27th of October and is now locked so the last still active post was created on the 21st of October, 3 weeks ago!! Perhaps I should have asked does anyone actually still care about GTAO rather than is it dead?

I've been playing on line games for a lot of years and I've seen dead games.  Like Battlefield 1942 which became lucky to find 4 people who wanted to play on a server.  Maybe you're right, but I just cannot accept a game where I never see the same player twice and I'm constantly in a lobby of 28 players is "dead".  

[whywontyoulisten]

"You need to restart production at your bunker to assign a tech to produce weapons". Bunker is active and supplied. Nightclub startup going well on char2...