How to deal with the true cowards (undermap deluxo)?

[secrecy274]

So, I've been fighting an increasing amount of griefers and tryhards that do this when I kick their ass above ground. How do I deal with it? Flying under the map myself I would guess but I want to avoid sinking to their level for as long as possible. Chernobog would theoretically work, but have had little success so far (after only two tries though).

 

Any tips or tricks that doesn't involve exploits.

[Cavot]

Sadly there isn't a full proof way of getting to them without going under with them. Only way I could think of is luring them to an area where there's water and hope they're dumb enough to hit the water under the map, thus destroying their vehicle. 

[ALifeOfMisery]

Pretty much what @Cavot says above. Just about the only time my Deluxo gets a run out is when I spot someone using theirs under the map.

 

Ghost Org > follow them under > taste the salt.

 

 

[Lonely-Martin]

New sessions are good for that.

 

Don't give attention seekers attention. Pisses them off as much, lol.

Edited August 2, 2018 by KWF1981

[Happy Hunter]

I sometimes use the MOC insurance trap. Should use up all the missiles, if they can stomach losing all that money attacking you.

[Smokewood]

14 minutes ago, secrecy274 said:

So, I've been fighting an increasing amount of griefers and tryhards that do this when I kick their ass above ground. How do I deal with it? Flying under the map myself I would guess but I want to avoid sinking to their level for as long as possible. Chernobog would theoretically work, but have had little success so far (after only two tries though).

 

Any tips or tricks that doesn't involve exploits.

leave the session

[secrecy274]

1 minute ago, Happy Hunter said:

I sometimes use the MOC insurance trap. Should use up all the missiles, if they can stomach losing all that money attacking you.

Sadly doesn't get the point across. However I've never heard of this. Care to share?

2 minutes ago, Smokewood said:

leave the session

No no no, I'm asking how to fight them. Believe me, I will use the same exploit to deal with them if I must, but I want to avoid it, which is why I asked here first.

[Arrows to Athens]

10 minutes ago, ALifeOfMisery said:

Pretty much what @Cavot says above. Just about the only time my Deluxo gets a run out is when I spot someone using theirs under the map.

 

Ghost Org > follow them under > taste the salt.

 

 

But then they'll go under again and again and again and again...

 

These guys never stop.

[Rotarl]

I honestly just hit that passive and go under myself.
Two can play that game.

[Happy Hunter]

1 minute ago, secrecy274 said:

Sadly doesn't get the point across. However I've never heard of this. Care to share?

Oh it's nothing all that special. I just get the MOC cab (Pegasus Insurgent Pickup if that's not an option), and then use MC menu to spawn expensive bikes next to my vehicle. They shoot a missile at my MOC cab, which laughs it off - but they destroy the bike in the process. A Shotaro is 20K, so that adds up fast.

 

If you don't want to be an MC (could be businesses raids, fees) - you can do the same kind of thing by just hanging around the MMI place with your MOC cab. Sit near the bike, let them know it up, when you call it back it'll spawn there nearby.

[Smokewood]

4 minutes ago, secrecy274 said:

Sadly doesn't get the point across. However I've never heard of this. Care to share?

No no no, I'm asking how to fight them. Believe me, I will use the same exploit to deal with them if I must, but I want to avoid it, which is why I asked here first.

leave the session, that's how you fight them

[ALifeOfMisery]

3 minutes ago, Arrows to Athens said:

But then they'll go under again and again and again and again...

 

These guys never stop.

That's true. If/when I get the 1-0 on them I'll wait/passive clown horn until the almost inevitable fan mail comes my way then I'll switch session.

 

As you say, they'll just keep going.

[secrecy274]

4 minutes ago, Smokewood said:

leave the session, that's how you fight them

No, it's not. That's how you avoid them. They get satisfaction of seeing you leave.

[Arrows to Athens]

1 minute ago, secrecy274 said:

No, it's not. That's how you avoid them. They get satisfaction of seeing you leave.

Not necessarily. A lot of the times, they get mad because now they know they will never get a kill on you.

[secrecy274]

20 minutes ago, Rotarl said:

I honestly just hit that passive and go under myself.
Two can play that game.

Yeah, seems to be the only option. Sad, since I wanted to avoid it.

 

35 minutes ago, ALifeOfMisery said:

Pretty much what @Cavot says above. Just about the only time my Deluxo gets a run out is when I spot someone using theirs under the map.

 

Ghost Org > follow them under > taste the salt.

 

 

Don't own a Deluxo, won't touch that sh*t, Avenger probably works just as well though.

[joel15cat]

Fly.

[Coleco]

As others have said - leave session. Engaging with them gives them exactly what they're after.

 

If a lot more people stopped taking the bait maybe there would be fewer tryhards.

[Lonely-Martin]

1 hour ago, secrecy274 said:

No, it's not. That's how you avoid them. They get satisfaction of seeing you leave.

Not according to the many love messages I get.

 

Winds them right up knowing they ain't sh*t, lol.

[Nutduster]

1 hour ago, Arrows to Athens said:

Not necessarily. A lot of the times, they get mad because now they know they will never get a kill on you.

 

This has never happened in the history of GTA Online unless you were up on them before you quit.  If they are up on you and you quit, or they're chasing you randomly and you quit just to avoid dying? Then 100% of the time they are laughing at you for "rage quitting." Now if you got a kill or three and they went under the map for payback, THEN you quit... that's working the system properly.  f*ck 'em.

 

Back to topic: I used to ghost org and go under the map myself to kill them, but Rockstar put death zones over the wall breaches I used for this and I just can't be bothered to learn new ones.  So I'm ignoring and reporting them now.  Hunter's idea with the MOC cab and expensive bike is a good one too - waste their missiles and cost them money.

 

Rockstar really should put a bunch of big death zones under the map in random places (being sure not to encroach on water, tunnels, interiors, and other legit underground areas of course).  They don't need to blanket the entire map either - just a bunch of instant death areas scattered around at random would kill these losers pretty quick as they fly around chasing people.  No wall breach they find from then on out would help.

Edited August 2, 2018 by Nutduster

[Arrows to Athens]

3 hours ago, Nutduster said:

 

This has never happened in the history of GTA Online unless you were up on them before you quit.

That's what I'm talking about. Yes, if you're "up on them", or you got the last kill on them, and then you leave, then that grinds their gears.

[Fozzie]

Get in a boat and go out to sea and taunt them, they can't even go near beach areas without getting dunked.

[BOOGIEMAN219]

Can I take a Piro or Starling under the map? I get hit by the under the map deluxo often in my stromberg and those aircraft are my prefered deluxo counter.

[SHOKKERZ91]

High building and thermal sniper wallbanging. If you you want it even easier use explosive rounds. It works quiete well.

[wizooord]

UNDERMAP DELUXO

jesus it sounds like a final boss from a gameboy megaman game

good thing my motto for public lobbies is "if it splits, I sits"

[gizmonomono]

Why? Go passive and wait for them to leave. There's nothing honorable in what they're doing and they know it. You don't give them attention and they'll just get bored.

[CrysisAverted]

Orbital Cannon is the best way imo, if they somehow manage to dodge it just try again

[Mexicola9302]

I wonder why they not just make the underground a solid mass like it should be. Or ppl going down there should die of suffocation.

Edited August 3, 2018 by Mexicola9302

[Karl Marx]

17 minutes ago, Mexicola9302 said:

I wonder why they not just make the underground a solid mass like it should be. Or ppl going down there should die of suffocation.

Because there's no money to be made there.

[kenmy13999]

Send them a text that you have recorded them under the map and are going to send it to R* and Sony/Microsoft, did it the other day and didn't take long before he was back on the ground in passive mode.. 

[MaddenedGhost]

12 hours ago, Rotarl said:

I honestly just hit that passive and go under myself.
Two can play that game.

I'll switch sessions most of the time but I may do this, I'll send them "lmao" after I kill them with a cheap way like the one they're using.

Spoiler

I had some sad individual doing stand your ground with his punk friend invisible using some MOC glitch, I knew about the glitch so I took my savage and blew up all MOCs I could find in the lobby, second one was his so he just spawned right next to it as I ruined the glitch for him, I murdered him after that and he threatened to boot me offline lol