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Mexicola9302

[GTAO] Engine Limit Flag Petition (Remove it or add it to all cars)

Engine Resistance & Advanced Flag Poll  

173 members have voted

  1. 1. How should they be altered/changed?

    • A. The Engine Resistence and Advanced Flags should be removed from all cars, and they should not be added to any old or new cars. (Back to the roots, make all cars like before SSASSS).
    • B. The Engine Resistence and Advanced Flags should be added to all cars, just the way they are. (Ruin all cars, limit their RPM, make them jumpy offroad, etc)
    • C. The Engine Resistence and Advanced Flags should be added to all cars, but improved and more balanced so it makes more sense. Vehicles should not slow down on uneven roads, etc.


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Jenkiiii

i have a strange observation.
The new handling flags make newly released cars behave in a way that Rockstar are looking to achieve. What that is exactly, I don't really know? Are they looking to reduce curb boosting, or make cars more unpredictable in the way they drive, or make them more 'realistic' or difficult to handle? Who really knows?

 

And then they release Arena Wars with crazy Mad Max inspired vehicles. Vehicles with massive rams on the front, the ability to jump and even shunt other vehicles to one side. So, for example, you're driving your Bruiser (the upgraded Glendale) around town, happily shunting oncoming traffic out of the way, and then you accidentally run over a curb and spin practically out of control, bouncing a few times for good measure. A vehicle that is designed to be stable, sturdy, able to mix it in death arenas, which has problems just driving over natural bumps. It's absurd; what are Rockstar thinking? Why add handling flags for supposed extra driving 'realism', and then add stacks of vehicles in a later update which aren't supposed to be realistic, and which are negatively impacted by these flags. I totally do not get it? I think Rockstar are experimenting and then adding new content on top without any major thought about how the general public will perceive such content over the long haul.

 

 

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Arrows to Athens
3 hours ago, TCA said:

Highly doubtful. Especially with them. 9/10 they won’t budge on it at all. They’ll do the exact opposite....they’re really good at that. I mean they have cars in the wrong classes and they’ve done nothing about it. 

Cars being in the wrong classes is nowhere near as bad these God awful flags, though.

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KSI_IS_STUPID_

seen a few videos of the Itali GTO without handling flags and I'm amazed, really want these sh*tty handling flags to not be present anymore

it hurts my brain to see the new dlc cars like this.

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slowburn29

For me it's a clear indication they are not working on a new engine, plan to reuse code and assets, and generally have gone the way of most every other game developer

 

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Arrows to Athens

I miss the devs that worked on GTA Online back in 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2016. The ones we got post 2016 stink, don't care, and are just lazy as f*ck.

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TCA
7 hours ago, Arrows to Athens said:

Cars being in the wrong classes is nowhere near as bad these God awful flags, though.

It was an example.

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Arrows to Athens
11 hours ago, TCA said:

It was an example.

Yes, but it makes sense why Rockstar wouldn't fix an issue like a car being in the inappropriate class. However, something like the flags are worse and is more likely to be fixed by Rockstar.

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Mexicola9302
18 hours ago, slowburn29 said:

For me it's a clear indication they are not working on a new engine, plan to reuse code and assets, and generally have gone the way of most every other game developer

 

Yeah we are still in the Full HD and UHD age, GTA VI will probably support up to 8K, of course im just guessing here, and when will it be released 2021-2024?

 

I really hope for some news update, only about GTA VI and it's release date, and maybe the system requirements, it would be so nice to know when the new gta gets released. Sure it's still years in plural unitl the release, but some little info about the game would be nice.

 

5464 are the current supporters of the petition of broughy.

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just do it bob1

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Credit goes to my boy @Xiled on the GTASV Discord Server (he made this)

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Mexicola9302

5708

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Xiled

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"Its not the car, its the driver" :D:D

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MsBrandi

This is a nice thread i'm showing my support here, i think the flags should've been removed, it really ruins the driving experience, after all this is GTA not some sim racing games like driveclub or project cars, not counting GT and forza because they felt like arcadey

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alkaline_

new crunchy car from rockstar i SMILE:

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i buy it, order it and DRIVE:

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these uncrunchy handlings flags make me SIGH:

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so i go to this sparkly petition and SIGN:

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roses are red, violets are blue

i signed the petition, so should you

 

hihihi

 

 

 

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Pedinhuh

Signatures seems to be stationed at 5.7k

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YELLOW DOG WITH CONE
44 minutes ago, Pedinhuh said:

Signatures seems to be stationed at 5.7k

Broughy may be popular, but he's not MrBossFTW.

 

He needs more exposure, that's for sure!

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Mexicola9302

5768 supporters now, it seems that's so pretty much it, i don't think much more will sign it.

 

I get the feeling that rockstar won't give a damn anyway, it probably doesn't matter how many supporters he has. A never ending story, i just want the damn flags removed. :( 

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YELLOW DOG WITH CONE

Watch this and tell me with an straight face that the advanced handling flags are completely fine.

 

 

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Mexicola9302

5844

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YELLOW DOG WITH CONE

We need Broughy to post here.

 

@Broughy1322 we gotchu fam!

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KSI_IS_STUPID_

some of the GTAO fanbase says that the handling flags are realistic, I don't see how?

as I drive a real car, I don't see myself losing control whenever my vehicle goes over a kerb or a bump.

I think these individual's who support the handling flags need to be enlightened of the definition of "realistic"

I seriously want these handling flags to be gone so I can enjoy driving my red, demonised Itali GTO lmao.

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Commander S
2 hours ago, KSI_IS_STUPID_ said:

some of the GTAO fanbase says that the handling flags are realistic, I don't see how?

as I drive a real car, I don't see myself losing control whenever my vehicle goes over a kerb or a bump.

I think these individual's who support the handling flags need to be enlightened of the definition of "realistic"

I seriously want these handling flags to be gone so I can enjoy driving my red, demonised Itali GTO lmao.



Exactly - I just had a go with the Deviant for the first time, and it bounces even on regular roads. Feels like someone replaced the wheels with beach balls... :blink:

 

If anyone can point out how no, actually, real-life cars do just bounce off the ground when driving down the motorway, then fair enough - the flags do make things more "realistic". :p

 

Same with the oversteer, too - I swapped between the Deviant, the Sultan RS, and the Stirling GT, and the Sultan has pretty snappy handling, the Stirling GT is oversteer-happy (as you'd expect from that kind of car IRL), and the Deviant will spin out randomly even at slow speeds, just because the back end will buck up and cause it to flip around.

 

Like I say, it's like the car is mounted on over-inflated beach balls - shame, because it's a good-looking, well-made car in terms of the model, and really ought to be more fun to drive. :sigh:

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Mexicola9302

Yeah the Deviant is another fine example of the sh*tty flags, i bought it drove like 1 kilometer, and then put it in the garage, there it will collect dust, like my Ellie and the Dominator GTX and all my other beautyful cars that only look good but are else completely useless.

 

Of course i still hope they remove the flags someday. :D 

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KSI_IS_STUPID_
19 hours ago, Commander S said:



Exactly - I just had a go with the Deviant for the first time, and it bounces even on regular roads. Feels like someone replaced the wheels with beach balls... :blink:

 

If anyone can point out how no, actually, real-life cars do just bounce off the ground when driving down the motorway, then fair enough - the flags do make things more "realistic". :p

 

Same with the oversteer, too - I swapped between the Deviant, the Sultan RS, and the Stirling GT, and the Sultan has pretty snappy handling, the Stirling GT is oversteer-happy (as you'd expect from that kind of car IRL), and the Deviant will spin out randomly even at slow speeds, just because the back end will buck up and cause it to flip around.

 

Like I say, it's like the car is mounted on over-inflated beach balls - shame, because it's a good-looking, well-made car in terms of the model, and really ought to be more fun to drive. :sigh:

never bought the deviant and I don't think I will, but  the Schalgen GT is a amazing looking vehicle and handling on the car is phenomenal.

thats how all the AW DLC cars should be,  all these handling flags with the new cars are just an utter disgrace to drive.

you get no satifaction out of it..

 

Edited by KSI_IS_STUPID_

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Jenkiiii

Yes, Rockstar need to remove the advanced handling flags. You can't have 4+ years of one type of handling, followed by a year of new vehicles that behave differently. It's so confusing and disappointing whenever you buy a new vehicle, knowing that it won't be competitive no matter how fast it is. Rockstar have messed up by messing with the settings so late into the game in an attempt to make cars more 'realistic' when reacting to curbs and uneven surfaces. They haven't respected the racing community, and have simply gone ahead with changes regardless, which is maddening in most circles, especially as they never address bugs and other racing class issues year-in, year-out.

 

I think the Deviant is an absolutely lovely muscle car, but I would like it even more if it didn't have extra handling flags, which would then enable us to properly compare it like-with-like with other muscle cars in our collection. As it stands, I am never going to get to race with this car, and that is one silly and stubborn shame on the part of Rockstar.

 

The only exception I can think of is the Flash GT, which handles really well and realistically for an off-road/rally car. It's the only one I don't mind at all.

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Tennyzulander
23 hours ago, KSI_IS_STUPID_ said:

some of the GTAO fanbase says that the handling flags are realistic, I don't see how?

as I drive a real car, I don't see myself losing control whenever my vehicle goes over a kerb or a bump.

I think these individual's who support the handling flags need to be enlightened of the definition of "realistic"

I seriously want these handling flags to be gone so I can enjoy driving my red, demonised Itali GTO lmao.

Because they don't know any better. Most of them are probably casual racers and don't understand the physics in gta 5. 

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KSI_IS_STUPID_
4 minutes ago, Tennyzulander said:

Because they don't know any better. Most of them are probably casual racers and don't understand the physics in gta 5. 

totally agree!

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Commander S
45 minutes ago, Tennyzulander said:

Because they don't know any better. Most of them are probably casual racers and don't understand the physics in gta 5. 


And the frustrating thing is that those players wouldn't know/care either way, so removing the flags wouldn't really impact their experience of the game.

 

It's like how I hate how vehicle models/designs are so inconsistent, and how clothing has been flat-out garbage for years, now - if R* went the extra mile with those aspects of the game, it'd make the overall experience better for the folks who care about those things and aren't happy, while having no noticeable impact on those folk who just can't tell the difference.

 

But I guess that's just it, though: TPTB at R* must assume that the number of folks who can tell are small enough a percentage that they can get away with just ignoring them. Which ...I mean, that's one way of approaching things, I guess - but in that case, never let me hear another word about R* and unrivalled 'polish' or 'quality' ever again (at least, not in the context of GTAO/RDO)... :harrumph:

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Mexicola9302

5860 signatures now, the progress is very slow now. :( 

 

Yeah a lot of ppl have no idea what the handling flags are. It would be helpful if Broughy and MrBossFTW and other halfway popular youtubers would work together on giving knowledge to the playerbase about the flags.

 

I don't like MrBoss but if it would help with the petition i would be okay with it.

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kenmy13999
14 minutes ago, Mexicola9302 said:

5860 signatures now, the progress is very slow now. :( 

 

 

 

I don't like MrBoss but if it would help with the petition i would be okay with it.

He didn't have any problems stealing content from here before so why not this? 😂 

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Johnny362000
On 2/12/2019 at 6:44 AM, Mexicola9302 said:

Yeah a lot of ppl have no idea what the handling flags are. It would be helpful if Broughy and MrBossFTW and other halfway popular youtubers would work together on giving knowledge to the playerbase about the flags.

The vast majority of people who signed this petition have no idea what "the handling flags" are, and with that wording I'm certain you don't either. The vast majority of people who think they're "educated" on the advanced flags are not at all, and Broughy hasn't exactly been doing much of a job of educating people. Not that I'd expect him to, if he actually went into detail about flags then few people would even listen anyway, as evidenced by people who watch his video on the tyres_can_clip flag and then go and put offroad tyres on all their cars

I don't like them at all, and I would rather see the back of them, but to pretend that this is somehow educating people about this stuff on even a surface level is ridiculous

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