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Mexicola9302

[GTAO] Engine Limit Flag Petition (Remove it or add it to all cars)

Engine Resistance & Advanced Flag Poll  

173 members have voted

  1. 1. How should they be altered/changed?

    • A. The Engine Resistence and Advanced Flags should be removed from all cars, and they should not be added to any old or new cars. (Back to the roots, make all cars like before SSASSS).
    • B. The Engine Resistence and Advanced Flags should be added to all cars, just the way they are. (Ruin all cars, limit their RPM, make them jumpy offroad, etc)
    • C. The Engine Resistence and Advanced Flags should be added to all cars, but improved and more balanced so it makes more sense. Vehicles should not slow down on uneven roads, etc.


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kenmy13999

I had to use different browsers for it to work 

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Mexicola9302

Got it working it's 97/100 now.

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kenmy13999

98

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Mexicola9302

99/100 almost there. :D 

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JON22

I picked * **B because I don't give a sh*t as I never buy the new current gen supercars anyway, and I got all my race wins on last gen.

 

 

*And I wanted to be 'that guy' for one.

**And I know nothing about it.

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kenmy13999

Just checked, we're now at 100 

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Mexicola9302
23 hours ago, kenmy13999 said:

Just checked, we're now at 100 

Yeah it's great, the next goal is 200.

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kenmy13999
6 hours ago, Mexicola9302 said:

Yeah it's great, the next goal is 200.

Just hoping it helps that it easier can be found now 

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Pedinhuh
6 hours ago, Mexicola9302 said:

Yeah it's great, the next goal is 200.

Any particular reason why it's 200? I think we can email it now. 

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Mexicola9302
On 8/21/2018 at 3:58 PM, Pedinhuh said:

Any particular reason why it's 200? I think we can email it now. 

Email it to Rockstar or what? No way, the 100 only were needed so it can be found on the change.org website, and in google searches.

 

It's still a long way before it does do anything.

 

Edit: I just googled it and it really can be found via google, and it can be found if searching on the change.org website.

Edited by Mexicola9302

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Bandersnatch
Posted (edited)

Friendly bump

 

I truly hope they get removed ! 

 

 

Have passed on links and video to other newsfeed as well 

 

Edited by Bandersnatch

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kenmy13999

The petition broughy made already have over 1100 signatures so fingers crossed.. 

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JustCallMeNiko

I know this is an old poll and it's too late now but it really should have included an option to leave the flags as they are...this would allow people who disagree to have their opinion counted as well...

 

Personally don't care since I probably couldn't tell the difference between a car that has a flag and one that doesn't...

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Tennyzulander
18 minutes ago, kenmy13999 said:

The petition broughy made already have over 1100 signatures so fingers crossed.. 

Me too! I haven't brought a car from the March racing update or after hours update because of these horrible flags. 

22 minutes ago, kenmy13999 said:

The petition broughy made already have over 1100 signatures so fingers crossed.. 

Also, look how much quicker these cars are without the handling flags. They are smoother to drive. 

 

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Tennyzulander
1 hour ago, Arrows to Athens said:

Was excited to see that pop up in my YouTube notifications.

Just about 2000 signed already that fast! That's impressive!

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Mexicola9302
Posted (edited)

Thanks for the posts, it's great that broughy is trying it now.

 

I edited the first page a bit and posted a link to his petition and added his video for it.

 

Of course i signed his petition too. :D 

Edited by Mexicola9302

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Tennyzulander
16 minutes ago, Mexicola9302 said:

Thanks for the posts, it's great that broughy is trying it now.

Yeah. I think broughy finally had enough and wants to have these ridiculous things removed. 

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Mexicola9302

It's just great, at least he has some subscribers and is a bit popular, maybe it really works now.

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Tennyzulander
1 hour ago, Mexicola9302 said:

It's just great, at least he has some subscribers and is a bit popular, maybe it really works now.

It's now about 2,300 signed now! That's insane. 

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Jenkiiii
Posted (edited)
20 hours ago, kenmy13999 said:

The petition broughy made already have over 1100 signatures so fingers crossed.. 

Signed it too, let's hope this gets some leverage!

 

Just remove the line of code, Rockstar, as it has no place in the current GTA online!
If all of the vehicles had these flags then we'd just have to get used to the extra bouncy, non-curb boosting style of play, and deal with it, but you can't simply give new cars different handling to nigh on 500 existing in-game cars. Firstly, we just won't buy new cars any more because we already know they'll behave weirdly, and may stop collecting cars altogether because of this confusion, and secondly, we'll become even more demotivated to race and compete because of the constant headache trying to remember if a car is technically inferior to everything else.

Edited by Jenkiiii

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Mexicola9302

3000 and it's getting more and more. :D 

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Voodoo-Hendrix

3,400+ of people already signed, the petition, nice!

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Lonely-Martin
4 minutes ago, Voodoo-Hendrix said:

3,400+ of people already signed, the petition, nice!

Awesome!

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Mexicola9302
Posted (edited)

Lol i didn't wait for the signatures to go to max, that's why i thought it's only 3000 that's the number in the top left, but yeah it really are 3400. 

 

Really awesome.

 

Edit: I even sent the pretyped email he prepared for us, to rockstar.

 

It's in the spoiler. Just imagine they get this email a few thousand times. :D 

 

Spoiler

Email To: [email protected]
Email Subject: Remove "strAdvancedFlags" handling line from 36 cars in GTA Online
Email Body:

Hi, I'm writing to express my concern over the performance of certain vehicles in GTA Online and my wish to see things change regarding them.

When the Southern San Andreas Super Sport Series DLC arrived to the GTA Online world in March 2018, a new breed of vehicles came with it. These vehicles were different than cars from the previous four and a half years because they featured a new line in their handling files (the files that are used to govern & program how cars perform), namely "strAdvancedFlags".

There are multiple versions of values for the "strAdvancedFlags" line, and 36 vehicles from the previous three GTA Online DLCs contain one of these values under that heading: D0000, F0000, 100000, 2F0000, 6F0000, 40000 & 2000000.

Any car that has one of these values attached to it via the "strAdvancedFlags" line exhibits characteristics that are very much not desirable. Most give the car very strange engine physics in which the gears are slow to change up, and the engine will bounce off the rev limiter for a number of seconds before changing gear. And all of them make the car have very bouncy and unpredictable suspension, causing a terrible driving experience over the many bumps of Los Santos and Blaine County.

A more detailed explanation on these advanced handling flags can be seen in the videos linked below, covering the flags from cars in the Super Sport Series and After Hours DLCs, and then the new versions of these flags from the Arena War DLC.
https://youtu.be/aoI9zjPx2G4 - Entity XXR Broken? Advanced Handling Flags Part 1 (Super Sport Series DLC)
https://youtu.be/PUWTCA9bXLQ - Bouncy Cars? Advanced Handling Flags Part 2 (Arena War DLC)

The community has been able to use various methods, such as mods in single player, to test what these vehicles would be like with this single value removed, and they are invariably a better driving experience. This is most noticeable with the recently introduced Itali GTO which has incredibly bouncy suspension under normal circumstances, but once the "strAdvancedFlags" value is deleted from its handling file it immediately becomes much nicer without changing anything else about the car.
https://youtu.be/5usUx7GJpeU - Itali GTO with Advanced Flags
https://youtu.be/E5Kg6_RXS44 - Itali GTO without Advanced Flags

I would like to officially express my unhappiness that multi-million dollar vehicles in GTA act in such a way, and request that these "strAdvancedFlags" values are removed from the 36 cars that have them (listed below), in addition to not being included in any future vehicle releases.

These flags make for an invariably worse driving experience that is unpredictable, unpleasant, and not fit for million dollar vehicles in GTA Online. I at least request that they be looked into further.

Thank you for your time.

Affected Vehicles (class - name - strAdvancedFlags value)

Southern San Andreas Super Sport Series DLC
Compacts - Issi Classic - F0000
Muscle - Dominator GTX - F0000
Muscle - Ellie - F0000
Off-Road - Caracara - F0000
Sports - Flash GT - F0000
Sports - GB200 - F0000
Sports - Hotring Sabre - D0000
Sports Classics - Cheburek - F0000
Sports Classics - Fagaloa - F0000
Sports Classics - Michelli GT - F0000
Supers - Entity XXR - F0000
Supers - Taipan - F0000
Supers - Tezeract - D0000
Supers - Tyrant - F0000

After Hours DLC
Commercial - Mule Custom - 100000
Service - Festival Bus - 100000
Sports - Jester Classic - F0000
Sports Classics - Swinger - 6F0000
Supers - Scramjet - 2F0000

Arena War DLC
Compacts - Issi (Arena) - 40000
Muscle - Clique - 40000
Muscle - Deviant - 40000
Muscle - Dominator (Arena) - 40000
Muscle - Impaler - 40000
Muscle - Impaler (Arena) - 40000
Muscle - Imperator - 40000
Muscle - Slamvan (Arena) - 40000
Muscle - Tulip - 40000
Muscle - Vamos - 40000
Off-Road - Bruiser - 2000000
Off-Road - RC Bandito - 40000
Off-Road - Sasquatch - 2000000
Sports - Itali GTO - 40000
Sports - ZR380 - 40000
Supers - Deveste Eight - 40000
SUVs - Toros - 40000

 

Edited by Mexicola9302

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Jenkiiii
Posted (edited)
20 minutes ago, Lonely-Martin said:

Awesome!

Yeah, I think the new Itali GTO supercar was the straw that broke the camel's back. What's even the point buying this car except for its looks? At 1.9 Million (2.5 inc. upgrades) it's a mammoth disappointment. All we want is consistency!

Edited by Jenkiiii

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Tennyzulander
4 minutes ago, Mexicola9302 said:

Lol i didn't wait for the signatures to go to max, that's why i thought it's only 3000 that's the number in the top left, but yeah it really are 3400. 

 

Really awesome.

How many signatures do we have to get signed in order for them to do something about it? We have quite alot already and soo many people are still signing. 

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Lonely-Martin
3 minutes ago, Jenkiiii said:

Yeah, I think the new Itali GTO supercar was the straw that broke the camel's back. What's even the point buying this car except for it's looks? At 1.9 Million (2.5 inc. upgrades) it's a mammoth disappointment. All we want is consistency!

Absolutely, so glad this has a popular YouTuber to help now. Mexicola did a fine job and us having here to voice this too only adds to what Broughy is trying to do. More the merrier for sure.

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Mexicola9302

I hope he gets several thousands more let's say 25K+ or something, this can't just get wiped under the carpet.

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