B-11 Strikeforce Appreciation & Discussion Thread

[Deracho]

19 minutes ago, DeadArashi said:

 

 

I don't see why they would remove it from peoples hanger. They just need to fix all the halfassed sh*t wrong with the plane which can be done by simply pushing a patch 

 

Who wants to place bets on which generic response R* will give?

we should all copy paste and spam this till they listen

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

21 minutes ago, DeadArashi said:

Who wants to place bets on which generic response R* will give?

"Have you tried turning it off and on again?"

Edited August 8, 2018 by Voodoo-Hendrix

[AsphaltTrench]

9 minutes ago, Happy Hunter said:

It feels unfinished.

Its the Jester Classic all over again.

 

The Unique firing should have been a hint for R* to buff it up.

Edited August 8, 2018 by VDTor

[Malibu Club]

This thing has limited missiles?! SERIOUSLY?

[Happy Hunter]

If they were going to limit them, it should've been something like 6 really good missiles. Chernobog range or something.

 

Not limited, and terrible.

[TheBricktop]

all that being said, it's still satisfying to insert a barrage into someones face from a platform that doesn't start smoking when a minigun kid sneezes nearby

[DeadArashi]

so made a post on reddit about the engines... apparently someones already made a video showcasing this fact
 

 

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

Do similar twinjets like the Shamal/Luxor also have a hidden afterburner too?

 

This jet screams rushed real bad.

[symphonight]

Even if the after burner is wrong, I don't want to see two violet flammes from my turbine please :') shamal doesn't have, so neither it!
And for the limited missile, yes, I should at least be the opressor or deluxo one in term of accuracy (or even pyro..) but no, thoses missile loose their target so easily and you can almost use all of them in a dog fight without paying attention and find yourself without proper homing missile, so.. barrage (have to be lucky to take out a circling jet with it.) and, the canon, who is pretty effective in term of make the ennemie loosing some valuables parts of this plane, and once it's incontrolable, you can finish him with a final blast. quite challenging tbh but their is a certain satisfaction when you destroy a plane with this B-11

[DeadArashi]

7 minutes ago, Voodoo-Hendrix said:

Do similar twinjets like the Shamal/Luxor also have a hidden afterburner too?

 

This jet screams rushed real bad.

I should probably explain how this all works

 

Within the model you have things called helper nodes or, simply put, reference points. In the case of the B-11 the engines listed as "engine_l" and "engine_r", there's represent the position of the engine and tell the game where the trust for the engine comes from. There's also "exhaust_l" and "exhasut_r" this tells the game were to generate the heat/exhaust effect from.

 

These four points are the same on the B-11, Luxor, Nimbus, etc. But unlike the Luxor and Nimbus, the B-11 actually has a third engine point.

 

Incidentally, there's actually no "afterburne" node like there is on the Hydra and Lazer which leads me to believe that R* has since done some tinkering to try and make the afterburner effect be called on by the engine node, which I would say was a success. Whether it was left in there intentionally or by mistake is another question all together.

 

In saying all this, as much is as it would amuse me to see two flame jets from my B-11, I agree with @symphonight. I would rather R* remove this third engine from the fuselage and give the two visible engines an orange glow that gets brighter when you start using the "afterburner"

[Thomas The Dank Engine]

I must say that i had a great time yesterday with the B11. The barrage is fun to use, and it's quite effective. I did manage to kill some players with the cannon while they were driving with 1 hit. It's not the jet i wanted, but in my opinion it's worth the price. It handles like a dream too. So despite all the negative feedback surrounding the B11 ( including my rants ), i actually enjoy it.

Edited August 8, 2018 by MrARCO

[Piro]

Feels like better Rogue. Good plane, but bad "A-10"
Nothing special tbh. But I still like it.

Now give me more planes! (and extra hangars)

edit:
I have no idea why they limit missiles on random vehicles... 

Edited August 8, 2018 by Piro

[DeadArashi]

1 minute ago, Piro said:

Now give me more planes! (and extra hangars)

I would sell my Yacht and Hanger along with right nut and left kidney if I could get an aircraft carrier with twice the floor size as the current hanger

[MeisterJazz]

Cant wait to sell this thing

[symphonight]

15 minutes ago, DeadArashi said:

I would sell my Yacht and Hanger along with right nut and left kidney if I could get an aircraft carrier with twice the floor size as the current hanger

Man.. an aircraft carrier (even only for stocking my plane and some piracy prevention with operable defense gun by me and my crew..) it would be awesome. would pay 10+ million for it in a blink of an eye with no problem (and maybe buy a shark card for it!)

 

Edited August 8, 2018 by symphonight

[Happy Hunter]

 

[symphonight]

Looks like the bullets are more incendary than explosive tbh (even on car.)

the only time I killed a player in one passage yesterday was a few second after.. I think that it's the fire that kill him after the bullet more than the bullet itself

Edited August 8, 2018 by symphonight

[FuturePastNow]

5 hours ago, DeadArashi said:

So I've just notice something that... kinda pisses me off and just shows how f*cking lazy R* was with this plane. You would think that the afterburner would be from the engines right? But when you use the afterburner nothing about the engines change...

 

Is what I thought. Opened up the bomb bay and look up at it (don't know what compelled me to to do so) and I noticed a blue light... at first I thought it was just a texture glitch, no big deal, it's out of they way so no one will really notice it. Until I let off the afterburner and the light dissappeared..

 

Yes, that's right, the afterburner is inside the bomb bay

 

 

The plane has high-bypass turbofan engines. They don't have afterburners and they're not meant to have the effect.

 

So, to me it seems likely that the hidden engine embedded in the fuselage is there as a work-around to some problem they otherwise didn't have time to solve. Perhaps it's there to give the plane the knockback effect on people and cars, which the non-afterburning jets don't normally do. Or perhaps it adds some additional resiliency to the plane.

 

It's probably not intended that you be able to see it through the bomb bay, but it's there for a reason.

[DeadArashi]

3 minutes ago, FuturePastNow said:

The plane has high-bypass turbofan engines. They don't have afterburners and they're not meant to have the effect.

 

So, to me it seems likely that the hidden engine embedded in the fuselage is there as a work-around to some problem they otherwise didn't have time to solve. Perhaps it's there to give the plane the knockback effect on people and cars, which the non-afterburning jets don't normally do. Or perhaps it adds some additional resiliency to the plane.

 

It's probably not intended that you be able to see it through the bomb bay, but it's there for a reason.

There's actually no reason other then the knockback effect that it should be there. Any additional resilience on the plane would come down to coding for the various modules. 

 

And in regards to the engine and afterburners. you might have missed my comment a bit after that,

1 hour ago, DeadArashi said:

In saying all this, as much is as it would amuse me to see two flame jets from my B-11, I agree with @symphonight. I would rather R* remove this third engine from the fuselage and give the two visible engines an orange glow that gets brighter when you start using the "afterburner"

So I do agree that it shouldn't have the afterburner affect in any way, shape or form

[Snoopbr]

2 hours ago, DeadArashi said:

so made a post on reddit about the engines... apparently someones already made a video showcasing this fact
 

 

WTF what is that car texture inside it? What are they smoking? lol

[Mexicola9302]

I just signed both petitions.  

 

https://www.change.org/p/rockstar-games-buff-the-b11-strikeforce-gta-5-online

https://www.change.org/p/rockstar-games-buff-the-b11-strikeforce-in-gta

 

There are probably some more, but im to lazy looking for them.

Edited August 8, 2018 by Mexicola9302

[Bloodytears1666]

1 hour ago, Happy Hunter said:

Video

Damn, your friends can't divebomb:). With this skills killing ground target will take forever, like in this video.

[SHOKKERZ91]

25 minutes ago, Bloodytears1666 said:

Damn, your friends can't divebomb:). With this skills killing ground target will take forever, like in this video.

Even with a good dive, you will most likely not kill a target at full health.

 

Here is a gif of my mate where i dive a target pretty much perfect.

 

 

Cannon is not as good as it should be.

 

Edited August 8, 2018 by SHOKKERZ91

[Geisterfaust]

21 minutes ago, SHOKKERZ91 said:

Cannon is not as good as it should be.

 

Understatement of the week award coming right up, a glass of Lagavulin for this gentleman here. 

Spoiler

 

[Thomas The Dank Engine]

26 minutes ago, SHOKKERZ91 said:

Even with a good dive, you will most likely not kill a target at full health.

 

Here is a gif of my mate where i dive a target pretty much perfect.

 

 

Cannon is not as good as it should be.

 

 This is painfull to watch. The B11's cannon is a gold plated turd. It's presented pretty nice, but the actual thing is sh*t.

Edited August 8, 2018 by MrARCO

[SHOKKERZ91]

28 minutes ago, MrARCO said:

 This is painfull to watch. The B11 is a gold plated turd.

Yeah well, i could have kill him with a barrage. But let a dude come with a zig zagging tank or something. It takes forever to crack that thing with the cannon. Firerate needs buff. That thing should fart out bullets as fast as a fat kid munches cookies on christmas.

Edited August 8, 2018 by SHOKKERZ91

[Der Süden]

Is the turning raduis of that thing so good?

 

I was in a dogfight with a B-11 in my Starling and he kept getting behind me. This did never happen against any other fighter plane.

[AsphaltTrench]

2 minutes ago, Der Norden said:

Is the turning raduis of that thing so good?

 

I was in a dogfight with a B-11 in my Starling and he kept getting behind me. This did never happen against any other fighter plane.

It is. I already got into a dogfight against a Starling, Pyro, Nokota, and Lazer. All got outmaneuvered by the B-11.

Edited August 8, 2018 by VDTor

[Geisterfaust]

9 minutes ago, Der Norden said:

Is the turning raduis of that thing so good?

 

I was in a dogfight with a B-11 in my Starling and he kept getting behind me. This did never happen against any other fighter plane.

It is. Solution is to force B-11 pilot to drop altitude, then it's toast. Especially if you're in the Starling, but Lazer will do fine. This thing flies at Buzzard speeds at low altitudes. Tip for B-11 pilots: suicide get yours from the hangar, this will make it a bit faster. 

Edited August 8, 2018 by hei3enberg

[symphonight]

At least it can destroy a rhino in one passage of BRRRRRRT :')  (obvisouly most of the bullet right in the target but, hey, it's how it work IRL, not gonna lie, it feel awesome to destroy this "this" quickly with that proper sound)

Edited August 8, 2018 by symphonight