B-11 Strikeforce Appreciation & Discussion Thread

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

11 minutes ago, hei3enberg said:

Useful in dogfighting to force the pilot of a plane with inferior turn radius to turn, trying to evade the missiles while burning him with the cannon.

Aka, the complete opposite of what an A-10 does.

 

I mean, it's good to know that at least the Strikeforce is not going to be useless but it's like if R* didn't get the memo.

[HamwithCheese]

Seems like r* is trying to "fix" their game by nerfing curb boosting and deathbeams.

 

 

Too bad they forgot to do that to ALLL VEHICLES IN THE GAME

[Stormingz]

Yeah, I’m going to wait for a sale.

[Happy Hunter]

I will say that it's much more hardy than a Hunter. Doesn't take as many explosive rounds before blowing up, but it's not just doomed to die straight after one. I took two sniper rounds, some cop attacks, some minigun flashes - was able to hang around for a long time (probably permanently if I wanted to), then went back to my hangar with one engine on fire.

 

So they got that aspect right, even if the raw number of rounds it takes should probably be higher. It also moves quite well.

 

That's as much as I can appreciate it right now. The cannon is incredibly bad. Against almost everything. Limit of missiles is just utterly bizarre. Barrage is okay - probably the only weapon on the thing that is. It's also easy to sniper at.

 

All that combined has me scratching my head and wondering why anyone thought it would be overpowered with a functional cannon.

Edited August 7, 2018 by Happy Hunter

[SkylineGTRFreak]

Well I mean... The A-10 is pretty nimble and from the ground it looks like it can almost turn on a dime. Had a few of them during joint exercise in Nevada and I believe many people think they are slow and kinda brick-ey to fly. Slow, yes. But that gives them a good maneuverability, especially with those wings.

 

But, still BS that dogfighting would be it's best capability in GTA lol. Although the barrage is really good for A2G. Already won a few dogfights (although I had to kill 6/7 pilots after they bailed :/), but I believe those pilots weren't that good to beginw ith (except for one other Strikeforce pilot). 

 

Buuuut, the more I use it, the more I like it so far. Handles nicely at least. Just that sudden slow down when going from high to low is really noticeable imo.

Edited August 7, 2018 by SkylineGTRFreak

[Gaffa]

11 minutes ago, SkylineGTRFreak said:

Just that sudden slow down when going from high to low is really noticeable imo.

Hopefully that will mean more players start to recognise they need to fly planes 'higher' in order to get the full potential out of them. 

 

I haven't been on GTA today at all (will be streaming it in about 20 minutes but hey ho) but I don't think this plane gets its 200+ mph speed anymore from what I've been seeing from others. 

Edited August 7, 2018 by Gaffa

[No Use For A Name]

My only complaint with this is it’s crooked in the middle hangar slot. My OCD is under attack!

[Smooth Longsack]

This thing is wicked good at killing deluxos. The cannon melts these little bastards. I'm torn between chaff and flares. I got caught with a homing missiles i thought i should have escaped. 

[Garland137]

11 minutes ago, No Use For A Name said:

My only complaint with this is it’s crooked in the middle hangar slot. My OCD is under attack!

That sh*t annoys me to no end.

[MrTroubleMaker]

4 hours ago, Cutter De Blanc said:

Let me rephrase. At 3.8 million dollars, to find out the homing missiles on it are limited even though they aren't on any other aircraft except the Thruster makes it an instant pass for me

yeah its going to have to go on a great sale for me to get this now ... why R*

 

edit: I wont be surprised if they add "buy missiles" in the interact menu .... lol

Edited August 7, 2018 by MrTroubleMaker
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[ilovefreebird]

Spent about 15 minutes dogfighting against two of these at once. Killed one guy about 5 times, the other about 3; never died myself.

 

My vehicle? The not-made-for-dogfighting Akula.

 

LOL

[marco6158]

Played it for a while tonight, it has some issues but I'm really enjoying it. Looks like the front cannon works sometimes, while some others it doesn't. Killed a few people with a bounty while they were traveling in a car easily, but couldn't kill someone on foot since he just flew away.

 

Got hit by other missiles, in the first situation one engine exploded and I was still able to get back to my hangar, second occasion it just exploded like a Buzzard would. Quite different situations, don't really see the difference in them to have such different results.

 

Had a few go at dogfighting and always came out well (against a Rogue, Strikeforce and a Molotok) and it worked well too, although those guys were quite bad at flying, I'd probably fail miserably against a skilled pilot, but I see potential in this Strikeforce, I really like it.

 

I think that if the front cannon was slightly more powerful it would be perfect.

 

[Deracho]

5 hours ago, Gaffa said:

So now there's two petitions for it eh?

 https://www.change.org/p/rockstar-games-buff-the-b11-strikeforce-in-gta?recruiter=13357352&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition

for f*ck sake why do this? r* doesnt give a f*ck about change,org they probably dont even know it exists just spam their suggestion email. if the get flooded with requests to fix the b11 at least we will know they are aware even if they dont fix it. change.org doesnt actually do anything its an online petition site it doesnt do anything a paper petition does. if r* isnt a government body so they have no obligation to address or even acknowledge a petition

1 hour ago, Gaffa said:

Hopefully that will mean more players start to recognise they need to fly planes 'higher' in order to get the full potential out of them. 

 

I haven't been on GTA today at all (will be streaming it in about 20 minutes but hey ho) but I don't think this plane gets its 200+ mph speed anymore from what I've been seeing from others. 

so they took one of the good things about this plane away...

 

[DarkFlame588]

1 hour ago, No Use For A Name said:

My only complaint with this is it’s crooked in the middle hangar slot. My OCD is under attack!

This. And that there are only five medium spaces instead of six, so I can't have it in between my Hunter and Akula in the back two slots.

 

Wish I got a clip, but when I was landing in front of my hanger I pulled a wheelie with the tail on the ground, and the hanger entrance animation showed it wheelie-ing into the hanger. Gonna try to re create it sometime later.

[Smooth Longsack]

22 minutes ago, DarkFlame588 said:

This. And that there are only five medium spaces instead of six, so I can't have it in between my Hunter and Akula in the back two slots.

 

Wish I got a clip, but when I was landing in front of my hanger I pulled a wheelie with the tail on the ground, and the hanger entrance animation showed it wheelie-ing into the hanger. Gonna try to re create it sometime later.

I've seen the wheelie. Good post.

[IdRatherBeFlying]

My biggest problem with this is that it can't outrun homing missles very reliably.   Either with circling or straight ahead knife zig-zag. 

[Gaffa]

3 minutes ago, IdRatherBeFlying said:

My biggest problem with this is that it can't outrun homing missles very reliably.   Either with circling or straight ahead knife zig-zag. 

What about barrel rolling? 

[No Use For A Name]

Ok, I finally got a chance to play with it. 

 

Pros: fun to fly with excellent handling. Weapons come standard, which is a nice $400k savings over other planes. Explosive cannon seems to take out NPC cars with one shot. Barrage missiles are always fun. Cannon also causes NPCs/players to ragdoll 50 feet in the air, which is high comedy. 

 

Cons: liveries are kinda lame. While I like the 30 missiles concept, I wish it would be applied to all weaponized vehicles (ground and air) already in the game. 

 

I don’t plan on using it for PvP, so how it fares is irrelevant to me

[—TheSquid—]

Tried using it in contact missions just for low-stakes fun. Don’t. 

[Gaffa]

Lol I'll probably try that once or twice just to see how it is... although no idea when that'll be as I'm holding off my purchase for now. 

By the way, now it's released, any idea if it's the standard 50 bomb capacity? 

[DeadArashi]

20 minutes ago, Gaffa said:

Lol I'll probably try that once or twice just to see how it is... although no idea when that'll be as I'm holding off my purchase for now. 

By the way, now it's released, any idea if it's the standard 50 bomb capacity? 

if you're on PC add me (same name) and you can try mine

 

and yes, standard 50 bomb capacity

Edited August 8, 2018 by DeadArashi

[DeadArashi]

So I've just notice something that... kinda pisses me off and just shows how f*cking lazy R* was with this plane. You would think that the afterburner would be from the engines right? But when you use the afterburner nothing about the engines change...

 

Is what I thought. Opened up the bomb bay and look up at it (don't know what compelled me to to do so) and I noticed a blue light... at first I thought it was just a texture glitch, no big deal, it's out of they way so no one will really notice it. Until I let off the afterburner and the light dissappeared..

 

Yes, that's right, the afterburner is inside the bomb bay

 

[Pain778888g]

This plame should have the Savage's values for it's cannon, Not the f*cking Rouge's. Everything else on it is perfect, too.

[AsphaltTrench]

There's a lot of things wrong with the plane. From the weapons, to the buggy armour, to losing the control surfaces way too easily, and that afterburner, I can imagine R* taking this out of everyone's Hangar and re-releasing an improved version through another update.

 

 

[Pain778888g]

Just now, VDTor said:

There's a lot of things wrong with the plane. From the weapons, to the buggy armour, to losing the control surfaces way too easily, and that afterburner, I can imagine R* taking this out of everyone's Hangar and re-releasing an improved version through another update.

 

 

The people that bought it better get it for free if that's the case, and it better retain all upgrades.

[Deracho]

flying today was to fun for me to stay mad. i need r* to fix this angel of death

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

49 minutes ago, VDTor said:

There's a lot of things wrong with the plane. From the weapons, to the buggy armour, to losing the control surfaces way too easily, and that afterburner, I can imagine R* taking this out of everyone's Hangar and re-releasing an improved version through another update.

 

 

If R* buffs it in the next update, if ever, they wouldn't need to replace the whole model, they would just tweak some values in the files or something like that I guess.

[DeadArashi]

 

59 minutes ago, Pain778888g said:

1 hour ago, VDTor said:

There's a lot of things wrong with the plane. From the weapons, to the buggy armour, to losing the control surfaces way too easily, and that afterburner, I can imagine R* taking this out of everyone's Hangar and re-releasing an improved version through another update.

 

The people that bought it better get it for free if that's the case, and it better retain all upgrades.

 

I don't see why they would remove it from peoples hanger. They just need to fix all the halfassed sh*t wrong with the plane which can be done by simply pushing a patch 

 

Who wants to place bets on which generic response R* will give?

Edited August 8, 2018 by DeadArashi

[Deracho]

i named her Angel: the black bunny

even nerfed i felt proud getting behind the stick

baptized in moonlight

 

Edited August 8, 2018 by Deracho

[Happy Hunter]

It feels unfinished.