symphonight Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 is that a flag or something who make the plane this slow when you fly in "low altitude?" Nossirag 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffa Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 1 minute ago, symphonight said: is that a flag or something who make the plane this slow when you fly in "low altitude?" It's been around since day one and affects all fixed-wing aircraft (planes). Below 865ft (call it 900 for argument's sake) planes have a reduced top speed. Yellow Dog with Cone, Nossirag, Fatsanchez and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBricktop Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 1 minute ago, symphonight said: is that a flag or something who make the plane this slow when you fly in "low altitude?" isn't it always slow? also, explosive sniper absolutely wrecks, owns, schools, annihilates this POS, just like it does to every other aircraft, yet stupid community insists it's not OP because OMG JETS ARE BAD Nossirag 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoropael Posted August 7, 2018 Author Share Posted August 7, 2018 12 minutes ago, TheBricktop said: Both akula and savage are top tier military hardware. Savage was hilariously terrible before Smuggler's Run buffed it. Molotok is a beautifully-made piece of trash. Bombushka is a beautifully-made piece of trash. Chernobog is a beautifully-made piece of trash. I'll concede on the Akula, but there's enough of a trend going on with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodytears1666 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Rogue, Rogue... damn, Rogue can overrun normal rockets, hard to keep up with, ehh, well, Rogue can tank 1-2 rockets and fly straight away. 4 millions only for joyride plane with bunny livery, ironically with this ordinary blimp, that suit best on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBricktop Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Mattoropael said: Savage was hilariously terrible before Smuggler's Run buffed it. Molotok is a beautifully-made piece of trash. Bombushka is a beautifully-made piece of trash. Chernobog is a beautifully-made piece of trash. I'll concede on the Akula, but there's enough of a trend going on with them. but now that it's buffed it's definitely viable. so, let's count them down good: -savage, akula, nightshark (forgot about this one) bad: -bombushka, molotok, chernobog it's 50/50 afaik isn't APC russian as well? Edited August 7, 2018 by TheBricktop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
—TheSquid— Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 15 minutes ago, TheBricktop said: isn't it always slow? also, explosive sniper absolutely wrecks, owns, schools, annihilates this POS, just like it does to every other aircraft, yet stupid community insists it's not OP because OMG JETS ARE BAD I agree, but I wish that a balance would be found rather than having one be undeniably beter than the other. 10 minutes ago, TheBricktop said: isn't APC russian as well? More or less. I can definitely see a resemblance to the Cadillac Commando and M1117 in some areas too though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Hunter Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 I asked three friends to try take me down while I was on foot, at the beach - wide open area. If these were other jets I would've died easily 20 times. These? Ragdolled a bit, most times the shots did nothing. Only died once after a good few minutes of all 3 trying to strafe me with their cannons. xXxKAMIKAZExXx, Handsome Jack, Fatsanchez and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBricktop Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Happy Hunter said: I asked three friends to try take me down while I was on foot, at the beach - wide open area. If these were other jets I would've died easily 20 times. These? Ragdolled a bit, most times the shots did nothing. Only died once after a good few minutes of all 3 trying to strafe me with their cannons. eh, i know it's tough, but don't use the cannon. barrage is your friend Happy Hunter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffa Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Happy Hunter said: I asked three friends to try take me down while I was on foot, at the beach - wide open area. If these were other jets I would've died easily 20 times. These? Ragdolled a bit, most times the shots did nothing. Only died once after a good few minutes of all 3 trying to strafe me with their cannons. But the cannon doesn't need a buff, it's fine. Freemode will be ruined otherwise. /s Nossirag, Fatsanchez, Thomas The Dank Engine and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
—TheSquid— Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Happy Hunter said: I asked three friends to try take me down while I was on foot, at the beach - wide open area. If these were other jets I would've died easily 20 times. These? Ragdolled a bit, most times the shots did nothing. Only died once after a good few minutes of all 3 trying to strafe me with their cannons. This. I’m going to sell mine if I get in it again. I can’t take it. If I hear the sound of a gun that sounds like it tore open a portal to hell, I should be A: Dead or B: sh*tting myself uncontorollably. Instead, I get to prance away laughing to myself about how some moron bought a 3.5 million dollar piece of hardware that can’t even kill me in one run. And no, that’s not balancing. The low rate of fire means less screen shaking which means you take far more explosive sniper fire. Very few people will be using the barrage, so that won’t negate it either, especially with your slow speed. Accuracy doesn’t matter either, because their ass has ragdolled to safety, far away from the cannon’s effective range and too quickly for you to know where they are and shoot them again. If the cannon isn’t a one-hit kill, at least make the rate of fire increase so that I’ve got two rounds in a body before they’ve safely glided off to safety three states away. Geisterfaust, Happy Hunter, Yellow Dog with Cone and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendaryAce 73 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Well, for all of the ineffectiveness of the cannons, I'm sticking to the Rogue. No other plane in my Hangar has been able to so consistently go from wrecking Lazers/Hydras to killing people on the ground. Maybe if it gets a discount I'll consider it... Oh well. At least Ace Combat 7 will do the A-10 justice. Nossirag 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plage Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 My "brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt" in USAF grey. Waldbear and Yellow Dog with Cone 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Use For A Name Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Plage said: My "brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt" in USAF grey. Hex code? That’s exactly what I want to use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plage Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Just now, No Use For A Name said: Hex code? That’s exactly what I want to use #9CA4A65 Yellow Dog with Cone, No Use For A Name and Waldbear 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLTh3Pr0 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Mattoropael said: Savage was hilariously terrible before Smuggler's Run buffed it. Molotok is a beautifully-made piece of trash. Bombushka is a beautifully-made piece of trash. Chernobog is a beautifully-made piece of trash. I'll concede on the Akula, but there's enough of a trend going on with them. I'm not sure, despite the low bullet-resistance the Savage was very effective when it was released. It was the only vehicle in the game with no cooldown between missiles and the explosive cannon was great against armored vehicles. The Molotok is very average when compared to the other attack aircrafts, doesn't really have any major advantage or drawback. Personally, I find it much more effective in dogfighting than the Rogue. The Chernobog may lack armor, but the missile launcher is a unique peace of art: it has the highest range than any other and the ability to shoot more than a missile at the time can quickly take out armored aircrafts. The Bombushka is terribly underpowered from several points of view. I've come to nickname it the "worse Avenger". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geisterfaust Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 I wanted to love it, I really did. I even allocated 4 extra mil to buy it, but after the controversial videos I decided to try it before the purchase. Well, there is going to be no purchase now. It's not the gun that bothers me. Of course the thing should be weaker because no living creature on Earth could survive 30mm round, but same goes with .50 BMG so I will skip that. What the hell is wrong with the speed?! Buzzard is faster. It's on par with Jetpack. I'm sorry, but for PvE this is pure sh*t. Hunter will be cheaper, faster and easier to use (in terms of bombing at least) all-around vehicle. Oh, and for the reasons I don't want to know there are only 30 homing missiles on it. Let that sink it. If you're in the market for a combat aircraft for PvE, get a Hunter and Hydra. If you're into PvP get a Starling or Pyro. Akula is a good vehicle for both uses. Maybe as a dogfighter it's okay, share your experience. TL;DR: Rogue offers more speed, infinite missiles, same gun and bombs for 1.4 mil + upgrades. Nossirag, Silencer555, Gaffa and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autodelta Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Gaffa said: Where's the proper icon on the mini-map? Don't tell me you guys (Rockstar) forgot to sort that out? I actually love that it has a civilian plane icon... that way nobody sees me coming. They just hear the sound of freedom, a muzzle flash before their impending death...BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT... Nossirag and symphonight 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregistopal Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, hei3enberg said: I wanted to love it, I really did. I even allocated 4 extra mil to buy it, but after the controversial videos I decided to try it before the purchase. Well, there is going to be no purchase now. It's not the gun that bothers me. Of course the thing should be weaker because no living creature on Earth could survive 30mm round, but same goes with .50 BMG so I will skip that. What the hell is wrong with the speed?! Buzzard is faster. It's on par with Jetpack. I'm sorry, but for PvE this is pure sh*t. Hunter will be cheaper, faster and easier to use (in terms of bombing at least) all-around vehicle. Oh, and for the reasons I don't want to know there are only 30 homing missiles on it. Let that sink it. If you're in the market for a combat aircraft for PvE, get a Hunter and Hydra. If you're into PvP get a Starling or Pyro. Akula is a good vehicle for both uses. Maybe as a dogfighter it's okay, share your experience. TL;DR: Rogue offers more speed, infinite missiles, same gun and bombs for 1.4 mil + upgrades. It only has 30 misiles? And a cannon that shoots feathers? And yet the laser and hydra have unlimited misiles and death beam explosive cannons how does rockstar manage to f*ck everything up Gaffa, Silencer555, Yellow Dog with Cone and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commche Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Already went head to head against two seperate B-11's with my Hunter; first one tried dive bombing with the cannon and clipped me with a few hits but failed to destroy the chopper and I tagged him with a homing missile spammed through his flares. Second one came from the side off radar trying to use missile lock and then barrage, I dodged the first salvo, used chaff, and nailed him with a rocket barrage while he tried banking around me. Not the best pilots, but I definitely feel safer going up against these than the hydra. And it's supposedly better for dogfighting than CAS. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Welp, I've saved 4m with this update. ilovefreebird and Happy Hunter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffa Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, Autodelta said: I actually love that it has a civilian plane icon... that way nobody sees me coming. They just hear the sound of freedom, a muzzle flash before their impending death...BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT... Yeah it'll be fixed eventually. Yellow Dog with Cone, Silencer555 and Geisterfaust 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silencer555 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 This plane is now my new favorite to fly around. Been in a session against constant Hydra griefers and Homing launcher spammers. Haven't been shot down once at all and managed to get 6+ people to rage quit. All attacked me first. The Barrage is nasty as hell. Got some one twice in the Ft. Zancudo tunnel. Hide like b*tch? You gon die like a b*tch. Yellow Dog with Cone, J-Scott-D and Thomas The Dank Engine 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekin Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 https://www.change.org/p/rockstar-games-buff-the-b11-strikeforce-gta-5-online This petition for B-11's cannon still exists incase people are interested in seeing that change happening. Maybe Rockstar will be kind to us one day, or next update. Might aswell try, right? Mexicola9302 and Nossirag 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geisterfaust Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Gaffa said: Yeah it'll be fixed eventually. But not the vehicle itself of course. That's catch-22 R* style: the only good outcome of an accidental f*ck-up will be fixed, while any other f*ck-ups will stay unfixed for years. Jokes aside, I don't think anything will be fixed in Online soon, because next update is nowhere near and they left the flags on the SASSS vehicles. For the purpose of balance of course. J-Scott-D, Yellow Dog with Cone, Gaffa and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
symphonight Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Well, the more i fly it, the more i like it. I deserve a large buff on the canon speed and missile number, BUT i've take down a lot of hydra/lazer/chopper with this! I take it as it require skill to make some proper damage (good aim, good timing, good use of chaff, etc.) sure, the canon is not for ground target, but the barage make the job. canon are at least very effective on vehicle if you consider the bullet as "non explosives" and just FMJ (sadly, i take the explosion from the bullet as a cosmetic effect..) but.. it need a buff, let's be honest. Silencer555 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffa Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ekin said: https://www.change.org/p/rockstar-games-buff-the-b11-strikeforce-gta-5-online This petition for B-11's cannon still exists incase people are interested in seeing that change happening. Maybe Rockstar will be kind to us one day, or next update. Might aswell try, right? So now there's two petitions for it eh? https://www.change.org/p/rockstar-games-buff-the-b11-strikeforce-in-gta?recruiter=13357352&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition Edited August 7, 2018 by Gaffa Nossirag 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekin Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Gaffa said: So now there's two petitions for it eh? https://www.change.org/p/rockstar-games-buff-the-b11-strikeforce-in-gta?recruiter=13357352&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition Oh, I've seen several. That one just seemed to be the most popular, notable one. Gaffa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLTh3Pr0 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Hopefully the cannon will eventually get the same attenction that the Savage's armor got and get a buff too. Nossirag, Gaffa and J-Scott-D 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth Longsack Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 I'm in love. Go out and use this thing before passing judgement. I'm able to kill very well with the barrage (players on foot) and cannon for vehicles. You can nosedive into the ground and it survives lol. Silencer555 and ALifeOfMisery 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendaryAce 73 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, GLTh3Pr0 said: Hopefully the cannon will eventually get the same attenction that the Savage's armor got and get a buff too. And risk pissing off (kids with their parents credit cards) loyal customers of Rockstar? <Edited because I'm unfamiliar with strikethrough on the forum.> Edited August 7, 2018 by LegendaryAce 73 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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