B-11 Strikeforce Appreciation & Discussion Thread

[Bloodytears1666]

3 hours ago, Voodoo-Hendrix said:

still remain competitive among the new planes and jets.

None of the modern fighter jets should be competitive to given WWII era planes. If want real, let it be real all the way.

[J-Scott-D]

36 minutes ago, Happy Hunter said:

Sad that it coming in a couple of days doesn't even hype me at all now.

 

When/if they fix the cannon it'll get my interest.

Basically the same thing I just said to some friends via the PSN chat.

 

I'm a PVE player and I can't even see this thing useful for Headhunter missions with the gun the way it is. 

[TheLordMarvel]

1 hour ago, Happy Hunter said:

Sad that it coming in a couple of days doesn't even hype me at all now.

 

When/if they fix the cannon it'll get my interest.

 

Look to the brightside, uce. They might have already fixed it! Still days to go before release, so who knows. Keep faith brotherman! For all we know, the spawned version thus far may be glitched or something (Maybe...prob not) 

[Deracho]

5 hours ago, Gaffa said:

Awesome video @Happy Hunter thanks! 

 

Well I think this'll be my last post on the topic until the plane's released, fingers crossed for a little change. One thing I did do is rename the strikeforce cannon's explosion type once more to be properly fitting (original = EXP_RAG_ROGUE_CANNON, then EXP_TAG_B11_CANNON, now its EXP_TAG_BRRT_CANNON)

 

If anyone wants to test on PC in singleplayer the 'version of the B-11' that I've buffed the cannon on, they can with the download below. Rockstar - please use them as a replacement if you can. 

All it's a case of doing here is using the explosion.meta from my download as a replacement for the one inside the "update\x64\dlcpacks\mpbattle\dlc.rpf\common\data" folder and use my vehicleweapons_strikeforce.meta file as a replacement for the one inside the "update\x64\dlcpacks\mpbattle\dlc.rpf\common\data\ai" folder. 
If you use the mods folder (which you should of course) then you obviously need the other things to go with that. 

 

https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ajkau7wt8URCkUg3lS-hMb7x2_MV

You should really email this to r* directly.

3 hours ago, FaithNoMan said:

I pretty much fly and drive cars in GTA. I'm a decent pilot but am like an upturned turtle on ground game. I'm really grateful R* gave us so many planes and am elated the A-10 has been brought to GTAV. I honestly thought us "pilots" were done for after Gunrunning update. Then Smuggler's run came along and I was really excited. I'm 41, and was surprised to find so many people my age still play these games. I guess the kid in you never grows up, if you choose so.

That being said, here is a petition to buff the cannon! I'd be happy to sacrifice bombs for a slightly faster fire rate.

https://www.change.org/p/rockstar-games-buff-the-b11-strikeforce-in-gta?recruiter=13357352&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition

 

The barrage looks neat, though! I got used to using the Molotok with regular missiles doing completely vertical attacks on ground players with the MarkII sniper, so the Barrage should be a lot of fun.

Mods, feel free to remove this if I'm breaking rules. 

 

Thanks,
Chris

 

It asked me for $3 dollars to sign. Thats a pretty lame scam considering we can literally have a better chance at making a difference by just spamming the official rockstar email.

[Deracho]

well I'm done whining. I'll leave this thread alone till Tuesday and just be upset about it.

[Black-Dragon96]

1 hour ago, Happy Hunter said:

Sad that it coming in a couple of days doesn't even hype me at all now.

 

When/if they fix the cannon it'll get my interest.

No offense, but I think its perfectly fine the way it is.

Sure the canon fires relativly slow and the bullets only have a small blast radius, but thats how explosive miniguns should be imo. 

Its way to easy to kill with the gun of the lazer/hydra and I do not want another deathbeam plane (and I say that as a proud lazer owner). Any weapon that dishes out an exorbitant amount of damage should require you to be precise, especially if it has a rather high amount of damage.

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

12 minutes ago, Black-Dragon96 said:

No offense, but I think its perfectly fine the way it is.

Sure the canon fires relativly slow and the bullets only have a small blast radius, but thats how explosive miniguns should be imo. 

Its way to easy to kill with the gun of the lazer/hydra and I do not want another deathbeam plane (and I say that as a proud lazer owner). Any weapon that dishes out an exorbitant amount of damage should require you to be precise, especially if it has a rather high amount of damage.

That's why I asked Gaffa to make this:

 

On 8/3/2018 at 4:03 PM, Gaffa said:

@Voodoo-Hendrix - hope this is okay, it's a little bit rushed sorry. Seems like it's a little slower to destroy them than usual. 

 

 

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Basically changing the Hydra and Lazer's cannons for those of the Rogue, but keeping the same rate of fire.

 

This way these jets could be still useful for ground attacks without being so overpowered as they're now.

 

Instead of just spraying the ground and getting kills with such ease, it would require more precision.

 

About the Strikeforce, I think that the buff that Gaffa also suggested is the best course of action, that way it would be a powerful death ray but it would require more precision than something like the Savage or similar aircraft.

[Happy Hunter]

19 minutes ago, Black-Dragon96 said:

No offense, but I think its perfectly fine the way it is.

Sure the canon fires relativly slow and the bullets only have a small blast radius, but thats how explosive miniguns should be imo. 

Its way to easy to kill with the gun of the lazer/hydra and I do not want another deathbeam plane (and I say that as a proud lazer owner). Any weapon that dishes out an exorbitant amount of damage should require you to be precise, especially if it has a rather high amount of damage.

Doesn't matter if you're precise with this - still does nothing either way. You not only have to deal with the incredibly slow fire rate and little blast radius, but also the fact that even if you beat the odds and land direct hits on your target, it does barely anything. At best, it might tickle someone on foot and make them fall over. Does very low damage against vehicles - armoured and unarmoured alike.

[Commche]

Had another run in with a rogue pilot today who went off radar, tried to attack my hunter from the bottom, got a good spray in, slammed into the chopper, and died while all I suffered was some smokey engines. Still had enough engine power to safely land back in the hangar. 

 

The gun on this thing is truly, truly god awful. Come Tuesday I'll either be rolling in my own Strikeforce (if it gets buffed) or I'm going to enjoy slapping down B-11's and rolling in the hacksusations. 

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

Rogue and Strikeforce = Buff

 

Hydra and Lazer = Nerf

 

Take notes R*

[Happy Hunter]

21 minutes ago, Commche said:

Had another run in with a rogue pilot today who went off radar, tried to attack my hunter from the bottom, got a good spray in, slammed into the chopper, and died while all I suffered was some smokey engines. Still had enough engine power to safely land back in the hangar. 

 

The gun on this thing is truly, truly god awful. Come Tuesday I'll either be rolling in my own Strikeforce (if it gets buffed) or I'm going to enjoy slapping down B-11's and rolling in the hacksusations. 

If they attack me when I'm on foot, and they have that gun - I'm not even gonna fight back lol. I'll just sit back and laugh, maybe record so everyone can poke fun at how bad the cannon is.

 

It annoys me a lot they've probably ruined it, but it will also look kind of comical I guess. 

[Commche]

6 minutes ago, Happy Hunter said:

If they attack me when I'm on foot, and they have that gun - I'm not even gonna fight back lol. I'll just sit back and laugh, maybe record so everyone can poke fun at how bad the cannon is.

 

It annoys me a lot they've probably ruined it, but it will also look kind of comical I guess. 

 

Pyrerealm recorded a video with the B-11 vs a guy in Ballistic armor; it took over 20 seconds of constant fire on the guy before it killed him. So yeah, you could actually do that; they'd get bored after the 10th ineffectual strafe. 

[Officer Tenaldi]

15 minutes ago, Commche said:

 

Pyrerealm recorded a video with the B-11 vs a guy in Ballistic armor; it took over 20 seconds of constant fire on the guy before it killed him. So yeah, you could actually do that; they'd get bored after the 10th ineffectual strafe. 

"Ye, he forgot to mention/edit out the fact that I still had god-mode enabled for the first few seconds. I died within 3 seconds after disabling it... ;)" That's what someone wrote in the comments 

[Commche]

30 minutes ago, Officer Tenaldi said:

"Ye, he forgot to mention/edit out the fact that I still had god-mode enabled for the first few seconds. I died within 3 seconds after disabling it... ;)" That's what someone wrote in the comments 

 

Ah ok. I thought there was a chance it might be glitched because even aa weak as the cannon is, ballistic armor doesn't have more health than a khanjali tank. Still, 3 seconds of concentrated fire would easily translate to multiple strafes to kill, unless the person switches to bombs and gets a good hit. 

[lll-H-I-M-lll]

4 hours ago, LegendaryAce 73 said:

Just wait till tryhards face this 19 year Ace Combat veteran in the B-11!

Easy tiger lol

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

4 hours ago, LegendaryAce 73 said:

Just wait till tryhards face this 19 year Ace Combat veteran in the B-11!

This thing needs to have its cannon buffed, so tryhards don't have the chance to survive and kill themselves to avoid getting killed.

 

That last sentence only makes sense in context lol

[Max 1985]

The money I earn from watching those facebook livestreams.

Gonna be used to buy these jet. (y)

[LegendaryAce 73]

46 minutes ago, HARBUJAHN said:

Easy tiger lol

Fine... I'll go easy... Lol 

[The Wandering Hunter]

i'm honestly more hyped for the opressor now, ill not use it in combat but it's basically a speeder so that's fun atleast.

 

an a10 that has a worse cannon than the laser is really f*cking pointless. 

and before you say barrage will be good, no, it will be alright, but really the missile spam of the pyro will be better as the explosions are larger

[Happy Hunter]

3 hours ago, Officer Tenaldi said:

"Ye, he forgot to mention/edit out the fact that I still had god-mode enabled for the first few seconds. I died within 3 seconds after disabling it... ;)" That's what someone wrote in the comments 

Highly doubt that was the actual player. Anyone can say anything in the comments. I haven't seen Pyrealm intentionally BS before, so whoever said that is going to need to cough up proof.

[Cavot]

Would it be possible for Rockstar to adjust the rate of fire/damage on Tuesday via tunables? I doubt they will if they can, but its wishful thinking.

[Thomas The Dank Engine]

I have mixed feelings now. All the ranting we did make me forget how fun this plane actually is. R* did a nice job nonetheless, and we're acting like spoiled brats sometimes. We should be gratefull. I'm going to buy it anyway as soon it comes out though. Hopefully, R* still does the right thing in the future but this battle is far from over.

 

4 hours ago, Cavot said:

Would it be possible for Rockstar to adjust the rate of fire/damage on Tuesday via tunables? I doubt they will if they can, but its wishful thinking.

They can. They did the same with the Gargobob, Ortibal cannon and among others.

Edited August 5, 2018 by MrARCO

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

8 minutes ago, MrARCO said:

I have mixed feelings now. All the ranting we did make me forget how fun this plane actually is. R* did a nice job nonetheless, and we're acting like spoiled brats sometimes. We should be gratefull. I'm going to buy it anyway as soon it comes out though. Hopefully, R* still does the right thing in the future but this battle is far from over.

I'm grateful to R* for finally adding this plane to the game, I kid you not, not even a Comet Classic would hype me as much as an A-10!

 

And because of that gratefulness, that's why I ask R* to just buff the cannon slightly so it makes the A-10 justice!

[AsphaltTrench]

4 hours ago, Cavot said:

Would it be possible for Rockstar to adjust the rate of fire/damage on Tuesday via tunables? I doubt they will if they can, but its wishful thinking.

It would be a miracle if they do

[Happy Hunter]

Meh, the whole grateful/"entitled"(*self-entitled) thing is very tired out. I don't get into that anymore.

 

All I know is they've swapped the a-10 out for a reskinned Rogue 2.0. If I buy it, it'll primarily be to make fun of its gun and ward others away from it until it's changed. But in buying it - I don't want to add to its sales numbers, even a tiny bit.

 

The idea of it being ruined thanks to some people who lose their sh*t any time something kills them ... Ugh. The gun is pretty obnoxious and cancerous in its current state. Not happy.

Edited August 5, 2018 by Happy Hunter

[DrTcr]

Probably a stupid question but can they change the cannon without having to update the game?

Edited August 5, 2018 by DrTcr

[TheLordMarvel]

Aside from the Terrorbyte, this plane is the one I'm looking forward to most out of the dripfeed. While I'm not a combatant and just someone who enjoys flying around for fun, I do hope they fix the gun for those who are this way which is probably most who buy the plane. The gun on the A-10 is mesmerizing and destructive where what we've seen from the B-11, is the exact opposite. I firmly believe that Rockstar will fix it before release. Maybe foolish on my behalf but we have made enough noise for them to at least gather wind of it. They would be wise to listen. For it wouldn't be OP'd because of all the other planes and vehicles we have to fight it. If they keep it as the tiny-explosive pea shooter it is currently, then it would be foolishness, R*, foolishness. But I will keep faith that they do the right thing. It's not a wildly massive request either. Just a little change that would take them like 30 seconds or less (or more, I ain't a computer wizard!!)

 

 

Don't you let me down R*. I have given you plenty of money in the past so you owe me one friends.

[Aghakhi]

Unbelievable to see the amount people justifying the pathetic cannon on the B-11 because of the Lazer's and Hydra's cannons, things that are in the game for over 3 years each already and were never even touched by Rockstar as far as their weapons goes, thus making the possibility of a nerf a remote one by now in my opinion. And not only that, but there's even seems to be some who think that such useless cannon should be the default on all these three planes! What the hell guys? Has that much salt been rubbed in your wounds by the griefers? If they are the actual problem, well there's so many tricks and tips all over the web and even this very forum to ensure a safe sale lobby, I myself limit all my sales to either solo or peaceful lobbies, it isn't hard to identify one when you know the tips to do so. Outside of that, well we can't do much. Freemode has always been a utterly ridiculous mess unfortunately, and Rockstar seemingly has a liking to make it even worse too where it can, just look at the forced public lobby business with pathetic delivery methods that you can't even choose and the amount of powerful meme vehicles for example.

 

But to have the B-11 cannon not only as it is right now, but and also put the same useless thing in the other explosive cannon armed planes? Oh hell no! I particularly wouldn't even mind if the B-11 had the same overpowered cannon as the Hydra, in fact I was honestly expecting and hyped for it because I already knew how powerful the real thing is. This plane should have a monstrous, fearsome devil of a cannon, not a glorified peashooter, it's an A-10 after all! It deserves it more than anything else! Game balance was sent to sh*t the moment they added the Hydra in the game, an A-10 done right won't hurt any more than the other already existing griefer tools we have to fight against, this I can guarantee you

[Happy Hunter]

43 minutes ago, Aghakhi said:

Unbelievable to see the amount people justifying the pathetic cannon on the B-11 because of the Lazer's and Hydra's cannons, things that are in the game for over 3 years each already and were never even touched by Rockstar as far as their weapons goes, thus making the possibility of a nerf a remote one by now in my opinion. And not only that, but there's even seems to be some who think that such useless cannon should be the default on all these three planes! What the hell guys? Has that much salt been rubbed in your wounds by the griefers? If they are the actual problem, well there's so many tricks and tips all over the web and even this very forum to ensure a safe sale lobby, I myself limit all my sales to either solo or peaceful lobbies, it isn't hard to identify one when you know the tips to do so. Outside of that, well we can't do much. Freemode has always been a utterly ridiculous mess unfortunately, and Rockstar seemingly has a liking to make it even worse too where it can, just look at the forced public lobby business with pathetic delivery methods that you can't even choose and the amount of powerful meme vehicles for example.

 

But to have the B-11 cannon not only as it is right now, but and also put the same useless thing in the other explosive cannon armed planes? Oh hell no! I particularly wouldn't even mind if the B-11 had the same overpowered cannon as the Hydra, in fact I was honestly expecting and hyped for it because I already knew how powerful the real thing is. This plane should have a monstrous, fearsome devil of a cannon, not a glorified peashooter, it's an A-10 after all! It deserves it more than anything else! Game balance was sent to sh*t the moment they added the Hydra in the game, an A-10 done right won't hurt any more than the other already existing griefer tools we have to fight against, this I can guarantee you

It is true that in the situations you can't fight back against a jet (out in the open, nothing to hide behind) - it wouldn't make a difference how much armour is on the plane, since you won't hit it if they know what they're doing.

 

So yeah, I'm kind of struggling to see where an A-10 with functional cannon would be so much worse than the current jets.

[SHOKKERZ91]

42 minutes ago, Aghakhi said:

Unbelievable to see the amount people justifying the pathetic cannon on the B-11 because of the Lazer's and Hydra's cannons, things that are in the game for over 3 years each already and were never even touched by Rockstar as far as their weapons goes, thus making the possibility of a nerf a remote one by now in my opinion. And not only that, but there's even seems to be some who think that such useless cannon should be the default on all these three planes! What the hell guys? Has that much salt been rubbed in your wounds by the griefers? If they are the actual problem, well there's so many tricks and tips all over the web and even this very forum to ensure a safe sale lobby, I myself limit all my sales to either solo or peaceful lobbies, it isn't hard to identify one when you know the tips to do so. Outside of that, well we can't do much. Freemode has always been a utterly ridiculous mess unfortunately, and Rockstar seemingly has a liking to make it even worse too where it can, just look at the forced public lobby business with pathetic delivery methods that you can't even choose and the amount of powerful meme vehicles for example.

 

But to have the B-11 cannon not only as it is right now, but and also put the same useless thing in the other explosive cannon armed planes? Oh hell no! I particularly wouldn't even mind if the B-11 had the same overpowered cannon as the Hydra, in fact I was honestly expecting and hyped for it because I already knew how powerful the real thing is. This plane should have a monstrous, fearsome devil of a cannon, not a glorified peashooter, it's an A-10 after all! It deserves it more than anything else! Game balance was sent to sh*t the moment they added the Hydra in the game, an A-10 done right won't hurt any more than the other already existing griefer tools we have to fight against, this I can guarantee you

This so f*cking much. It´s a air to ground vehicle. Why it has dogfight potential is beyond me. You can´t castrate the A-10 at that what it is build for, the cannon. And the most bitching comes from people who don´t even sell in public lobbys. I for myself do that in packed lobbys, with friends and a wide varity of vehicles to support our sales. And a A-10 with a good cannon would be so helpful during these sales. Guess it stands with lazer/savage/stromberg for now.