Agent 14 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 The cannon on this plane is some how bugged I saw this video were this guy had to do about 3 strafe run to kill this guy while he was testing the plane. And no he did not missed. I think his channel name is Sonny Evans or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffa Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, Voodoo-Hendrix said: Aren't Rhinos unnerfed in Single Player though? Great vid regardless. BTW, there's a chance you could make a vid changing the Hydra/Lazer cannons for the Rogue/Strikeforce ones but keeping the same rate of fire as the jets please? Thanks in advance! I can't quite recall if a Rhino Tank has the same explosive resistance online, whether it's buffed or nerfed sorry. I did think it was quite similar to online though but it's been over a year since I checked that. It's a good point, I should really check again. Thanks and yeah that should be easy enough. I'll try and get one up on that later today. 20 minutes ago, Agent 14 said: The cannon on this plane is some how bugged I saw this video were this guy had to do about 3 strafe run to kill this guy while he was testing the plane. And no he did not missed. I think his channel name is Sonny Evans or something. Yeah if you go through the thread there's plenty of data and videos on that. The current cannon isn't bugged at all though, it's acting exactly as intended. With a "damage at edge" value of 50, it will take up to 5 shots to kill a rank 100+ player with full health if you don't hit the player bang-on. If you do hit the player bang-on, it's a one hit kill (damage at center value of 250, players health is 228) but the chance of that happening is extremely slim, not helped by the cannon's poor rate of fire which in turn probably means you'll have to make a couple of passes on the target, or more. My suggested changes will change it so it's a maximum of 3 shots to kill a rank 100+ player with full health, but with a massively increased rate of fire and half-a-meter wider blast radius, it should be 'job done' in a single pass. On a side note, that MaisonGeorge fellow, what a cock. I won't go into it but yeah, that guy is far from legit. Edited August 3, 2018 by Gaffa Schneller, Yellow Dog with Cone and Nossirag 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoropael Posted August 3, 2018 Author Share Posted August 3, 2018 Had a little test flight courtesy of a modder, who also spawned a massive bunch of NPC-controlled planes as live targets... but they seem oddly tough (switched to a Lazer later on and they still take like 5 or 6 shots to outright kill), so I'm unable to say much about whether the gun is good or bad from that. Nossirag, Wastelander (Suzuki), Gaffa and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Dog with Cone Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Mattoropael said: Ace Combat 7 looking good... Bloodytears1666, Schneller, Fatsanchez and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoropael Posted August 3, 2018 Author Share Posted August 3, 2018 Just now, Voodoo-Hendrix said: Ace Combat 7 looking good... The gun's rate of fire is indeed very Ace Combat i.e. hilariously slow. Yellow Dog with Cone, Nossirag, Silencer555 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lll-H-I-M-lll Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Georgie GTA said: Lol in the video at 0:44, the guy's voice crack! I have a question, is this guy using a mod? I didn't see it on the warstock website yesterday. He will have some sort of programming too access the drip feed stuff, only pc you can to this as far as im aware Georgie GTA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deracho Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 rockstar has an email for game change suggestions : [email protected] anyone think if we make a well worded and sent it in mass like one of those call your representative initiatives maybe they will take the time to hear us out? we would need to come to a consensus about what changes to make or at least what change is most important so that they know a large number of us are of one mind about the subject. Yellow Dog with Cone, symphonight and Happy Hunter 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffa Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Deracho said: rockstar has an email for game change suggestions : [email protected] anyone think if we make a well worded and sent it in mass like one of those call your representative initiatives maybe they will take the time to hear us out? we would need to come to a consensus about what changes to make or at least what change is most important so that they know a large number of us are of one mind about the subject. Trying can't do anything bad, that's for sure. Do know however, there have seemingly been countless calls to removed advanced flags from certain road vehicles which didn't happen, as well as a huge petition to disallow passive mode in weaponised vehicles - which didn't happen either. Rockstar will either sort this out or not - I would be prepared for them not to do anything with the cannon and release it like it currently is. That way I won't be buying it, even with a hangar space and $120 million+. Yellow Dog with Cone and Happy Hunter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deracho Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 28 minutes ago, Gaffa said: Trying can't do anything bad, that's for sure. Do know however, there have seemingly been countless calls to removed advanced flags from certain road vehicles which didn't happen, as well as a huge petition to disallow passive mode in weaponised vehicles - which didn't happen either. Rockstar will either sort this out or not - I would be prepared for them not to do anything with the cannon and release it like it currently is. That way I won't be buying it, even with a hangar space and $120 million+. i share your sentiments but its still worth a try and since you have done the most work on making an effective alternative your probably the best qualified to make a script to be sent out. and since your rather well known im sure if you made a thread for this purpose we might get more people involved. hell i hate to admit it but both Mr Boss FTW and saints fan have been watching you closely since the b11 problem was discovered so if you made this move for us they might end up helping alot as well. there videos are trash but im sure the would make a video about it just for the views and maybe a few of their subscribers that arnt totally brain dead might participate as well. this could easily become an organized protest with little effort from you just due to the circumstances being perfect. and even if rockstar doesnt do a damn thing atleast we will have tried. Gaffa, Yellow Dog with Cone and Happy Hunter 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Bobcat Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 (edited) We demand a buff We demand a buff Rockstar sort your stuff And make the cannon Tough! I still plan to buy the jet regardless as a hotshot, danger zone, Smuggler's run loving rebel rauser and Kessel running menace, but I can't say I'm not disappointed upon watching these test videos of the cannon in action. Balance isn't an issue at this point, any sense of balance was lost when they introduced an orbital cannon, broomstick and flying car that has superior weapons to the average chopper. Plus I plan mostly to use this beauty as the perfect for some easygoing hangar missions while the club works its magic. Edited August 3, 2018 by Foxhounder1990 Yellow Dog with Cone and Happy Hunter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffa Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 @Voodoo-Hendrix - hope this is okay, it's a little bit rushed sorry. Seems like it's a little slower to destroy them than usual. Yellow Dog with Cone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth Longsack Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Do we know what all the upgrades are for this thing? Perhaps there are a variety of ammo types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Dog with Cone Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 5 hours ago, Gaffa said: @Voodoo-Hendrix - hope this is okay, it's a little bit rushed sorry. Seems like it's a little slower to destroy them than usual. Reveal hidden contents Nice, thanks! IMO, this is how the Hydra and the Lazer should have been since the beginning. Low powered rounds with a fast rate of fire to make up for it and a way reduced area of effect, meaning that they would still be effective against ground targets but it would require more precision. Silencer555, lorsch and Gaffa 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorsch Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 (edited) I just analyzed some gameplay footage I had from a freemode session recently when 2 modders were griefing a lobby with this... One direct hit ragdolled me a bit and took half HP (maybe a little more) from me from full. What really irritaed me was that icon on the map. It just looked to me like a civilian plane... But I assume this will change when it comes out. Edited August 4, 2018 by lorsch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffa Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Smooth Longsack said: Do we know what all the upgrades are for this thing? Perhaps there are a variety of ammo types. -Liveries -Bombs -Countermeasures -Engine -Brakes (Handling) -Armour No ammo types. I like that idea though. 1 hour ago, Voodoo-Hendrix said: Nice, thanks! IMO, this is how the Hydra and the Lazer should have been since the beginning. Low powered rounds with a fast rate of fire to make up for it and a way reduced area of effect, meaning that they would still be effective against ground targets but it would require more precision. I'd have gone one further to say that either the Hydra and Lazer should've had a much, much slower rate of fire, or a lower rate of fire at the same time as using less powerful explosions than grenade (eg like the Rogue cannon), or just use bullets that don't explode like most Smuggler's Run machine guns. 1 hour ago, lorsch said: I just analyzed some gameplay footage I had from a freemode session recently when 2 modders were griefing a lobby with this... One direct hit ragdolled me a bit and took half HP (maybe a little more) from me from full. What really irritaed me was that icon on the map. It just looked to me like a civilian plane... But I assume this will change when it comes out. Ahh yeah the blip is a really strange one... once again I have to ask if someone at Rockstar made a mistake because the Scramjet has the correct blip even when spawned in, the Oppressor Mk.2 has the correct blip when spawned in, but the B-11 doesn't. It'd seem even the Blimp is supposed to have its own icon on the map, but doesn't... here's all the blips that were added from the After Hours DLC. The first three I think are from SSASS. EDIT - maybe the Blimp icon is only for when it spawns at the airport and in fact, players flying them weren't supposed to get that icon? Edited August 4, 2018 by Gaffa lorsch, Georgie GTA, Smooth Longsack and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Hunter Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Handsome Jack, Amy Vinewood, Gaffa and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridl0k Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Can we hit page 50 before this thing is released? No death ray is a little disappointing, maybe, but this thing's functionally indestructible and I'll enjoy using it. Anyone know if it's small or medium? Small obv. has better spawns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLordMarvel Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Gridl0k said: Anyone know if it's small or medium? Small obv. has better spawns It's medium. Gridl0k 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigs. Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 On 8/1/2018 at 9:28 PM, —TheSquid— said: I highly disagree. We’re going to balance a close air support vehicle by taking away its close air support abilities? There’s enough counters to where it shouldn’t matter. The Lazer and the Hydra are fighters. They shouldn’t be made for picking off ground units to begin with. They should be made for taking down things like the B-11, not competing with it. Besides, when you have hyperintelligent missiles that can take corners like a damned Formula One car, this thing is the least of your worries. If this thing’s going to be a problem fulfilling its intended role, what’s the point in adding it other than to be an insult? Edit: Here’s a quick list of counters. I understand your point but again, why add it? Don’t add a minigun into the game if it has to shoot as fast as a pistol because of balancing. -Chernobog -AA Trailer -Halftrack -Lazer/Hydra -Hunter/Akula -Deluxo/R2K/Scramjet/Oppressors -Explosive Rounds -Homing Missiles -Tunnels/Cover Indeed, nice point about the Hydra and the Lazer, Another counter measure is gonna to be added to the game, and cant be forgoten, its the Terrobyte and his anti air missiles, i believe that he gonna give some troubles to basically all air vehicles (well, from the videos i saw so far maybe need to get some armor buff, but this is for another topic), so theres no point to keep the explosive rounds the way they are in the moment, a buff on those explosive cannons is needed, and its a shame, and a big disappointment if they release the aircraft just like it is in the moment. Yellow Dog with Cone and Happy Hunter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffa Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Awesome video @Happy Hunter thanks! Well I think this'll be my last post on the topic until the plane's released, fingers crossed for a little change. One thing I did do is rename the strikeforce cannon's explosion type once more to be properly fitting (original = EXP_RAG_ROGUE_CANNON, then EXP_TAG_B11_CANNON, now its EXP_TAG_BRRT_CANNON) If anyone wants to test on PC in singleplayer the 'version of the B-11' that I've buffed the cannon on, they can with the download below. Rockstar - please use them as a replacement if you can. All it's a case of doing here is using the explosion.meta from my download as a replacement for the one inside the "update\x64\dlcpacks\mpbattle\dlc.rpf\common\data" folder and use my vehicleweapons_strikeforce.meta file as a replacement for the one inside the "update\x64\dlcpacks\mpbattle\dlc.rpf\common\data\ai" folder. If you use the mods folder (which you should of course) then you obviously need the other things to go with that. https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ajkau7wt8URCkUg3lS-hMb7x2_MV Yellow Dog with Cone, Fatsanchez and Happy Hunter 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Dog with Cone Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 13 hours ago, Gaffa said: 14 hours ago, Voodoo-Hendrix said: Nice, thanks! IMO, this is how the Hydra and the Lazer should have been since the beginning. Low powered rounds with a fast rate of fire to make up for it and a way reduced area of effect, meaning that they would still be effective against ground targets but it would require more precision. I'd have gone one further to say that either the Hydra and Lazer should've had a much, much slower rate of fire, or a lower rate of fire at the same time as using less powerful explosions than grenade (eg like the Rogue cannon), or just use bullets that don't explode like most Smuggler's Run machine guns. Exactly! I would say that if R* did balanced the Hydra and Lazer cannons this way, I wouldn't mind for R* to also update said jets (and the rest of Pegasus aircraft while we're at it) to be able to equip countermeasures and upgrades, so they still remain competitive among the new planes and jets. It would be a nice compromise IMO. Also, btw, you're doing God's work with all your research and testing, good job man! Gaffa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie GTA Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 On 8/3/2018 at 12:40 PM, HARBUJAHN said: He will have some sort of programming too access the drip feed stuff, only pc you can to this as far as im aware Thank you. lll-H-I-M-lll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaithNoMan Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 (edited) I pretty much fly and drive cars in GTA. I'm a decent pilot but am like an upturned turtle on ground game. I'm really grateful R* gave us so many planes and am elated the A-10 has been brought to GTAV. I honestly thought us "pilots" were done for after Gunrunning update. Then Smuggler's run came along and I was really excited. I'm 41, and was surprised to find so many people my age still play these games. I guess the kid in you never grows up, if you choose so. That being said, here is a petition to buff the cannon! I'd be happy to sacrifice bombs for a slightly faster fire rate. https://www.change.org/p/rockstar-games-buff-the-b11-strikeforce-in-gta?recruiter=13357352&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition The barrage looks neat, though! I got used to using the Molotok with regular missiles doing completely vertical attacks on ground players with the MarkII sniper, so the Barrage should be a lot of fun. Mods, feel free to remove this if I'm breaking rules. Thanks, Chris Edited August 4, 2018 by FaithNoMan I forget to say sh*t! Yellow Dog with Cone, Georgie GTA, Fatsanchez and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Officer Tenaldi Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 The wait is over Smooth Longsack, Yellow Dog with Cone, FaithNoMan and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Dog with Cone Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Happy Hunter, Silencer555, futureproof and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyuNova Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 23 minutes ago, Officer Tenaldi said: The wait is over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendaryAce 73 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 On 8/3/2018 at 9:14 AM, Mattoropael said: The gun's rate of fire is indeed very Ace Combat i.e. hilariously slow. New to the thread here (in terms of posting, I've been watching since the start), but hilariously enough, the A-10 in Ace Combat 6 had a ridiculous fire rate and outright killed anything it touched in a half second! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black-Dragon96 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 51 minutes ago, Officer Tenaldi said: The wait is over Well lets see how the tryhards will like their new opponent. Yellow Dog with Cone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendaryAce 73 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Just wait till tryhards face this 19 year Ace Combat veteran in the B-11! Mattoropael, lll-H-I-M-lll and Silencer555 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Hunter Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Sad that it coming in a couple of days doesn't even hype me at all now. When/if they fix the cannon it'll get my interest. Yellow Dog with Cone, _Celldweller, J-Scott-D and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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