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TripleOGJohnson

Balla Set that murdered the most Families in the 90's?

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TripleOGJohnson

Which Balla set/hood killed the most Grove Street and Families members in your game during the 90's?

 

City wide, I would have to say that Rollin Heights put in a lot of work on Families in my game. Families had 6 hoods in my game, 3 out of 6 of our hoods had RHB as their main rival. We called them Strollin Dikes and Rollin Hoes but they earned respect in the 90's. 

 

RHB beefed hard with Grove Street in Ganton, Lil Spider, Uncle G, Big Fly, Large E, Lil Fit, and Floss G from my hood were all killed by Rollin Heights. The Rollin Heights from Willowfield used to come and light up the projects in Ganton regularly. 

 

The Jefferson Jungles was at war with RHB from Jefferson and East LS, Rollin Heights used to march to the heart of the Jungles. West Side Grove Street in Verona Beach had to fight Rollin Heights too, it wasn't as bad as Ganton VS RHB and Jungles VS RHB but that was their main rivals. OG Switch from Verona Beach was killed by Rollin Heights.

 

Temple Drive Ballas (Tea Dippers) may have killed the second most. Most of Temple Drive Families were killed by TDB, but Temple Drive Ballas were isolated on the West Side. Tea Dippers used to also come up to Verona Mall sometimes, which is why when I used to go to the mall I'd bring an entourage with me. 

 

Seville Boulevard had Front Yards near them, but Sevilles fought Vagos more, and Kilo Trays spent most of their time fighting Vagos from El Corona after they took their hood from VLA, KTB also spent a lot of time fighting Front Yards (KTB and FYB went to war in my game) so Rollin Heights and Temple Drives murdered the most of Families/Grove Street in my game.  

 

 

 

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Evil empire

The Ballas who killed most GSF are the ones the scenarists gave this job.

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GroveStreetOG92

In my game Temple Dr. Ballas and Rollin Heights Ballas killed more homies in my game. Them TDBs we call them TINY D**K BUSTERS I hate ALL TDB sets and RHB sets. Idk who I hate more between the 2. I'm at it with TDB in Verona and RHB in Verona we be giving them the blues we'll knocc down a RHB and then knocc down a TDB lmao but I'm not going to lie we can't compete with those TDB sets in Temple/Market area they are too deep for us they be knoccing the homies down in Temple badly and they stay attacking our turf up that way. As for Jefferson Rollin Heights Ballas them cats gotta worry about the Vagos in Jefferson and Glen Park because I've seen those Vagos knoccing down a few of them Rollin Hoes. They Ballas in Jefferson got weak over the years after the Vagos sets started coming in. For the most part you don't really see them out like that except for the Rollin Heights set by the traccs with the 3 houses lined up in a row them cats be smashing on Vagos by the park in East Los Santos but other than them the Jefferson Ballas are weak sauce. So yeah TDB(Verona,Temple) and RHB(Verona,Williowfield) gave us the most hell in the 90s.

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KingD19

TDB in temple were the ones I avoided at all cost no lie it got to a point where I had to push them out of the area because they were that much of problem  I used to always have to assist TDF when they was attacking the hood on that side last year I had a lot of loses from them 

 

Since front yards are right in idlewood and I have to see them when I cross those tracks by the gym they killed so many people of mine it makes no sense to the point I forgot rollin heights were right behind Ganton front yards killed label artist of mine and a lot groves from Ganton also 

 

didn’t wanna write too much but yeah Temple drive ballas and Front yards murdered more from my side in the 90s 

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Baniqua

Hey @TripleOGJohnson Johnson, I wanna to see your Watch Dogs Map with street names. You've done Parker Square district, the Wards, and the Loop and so on, pretty a great job, I can't wait to see it.

But your pictures are no longer exist on the Internet. Can you post them on imgur? Your work is so good. All players should not lose these masterpiece.

Thank you very much. Please release the pics, with imgur. I am not a native English speaker, sorry for interrupting you.

qwq

 

 

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Ballas King

Killo Trays !

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Official General

In my game, it's the Jefferson Ballas. They are so deep and strong in Jefferson that Families lose crazy amounts of men whenever they try to takeover. 

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lil weasel
On 7/22/2018 at 11:39 AM, TripleOGJohnson said:

Which Balla set/hood killed the most Grove Street and Families members in your game during the 90's

 

There is no body count.

The Game is Fiction,

The Gangs (may based on real gangs) are Fiction.

The Game does not start until 1992.

 

Any such statistic will be just as Bogus. (aka Fan Fiction]

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Official General
3 hours ago, lil weasel said:

There is no body count.

The Game is Fiction,

The Gangs (may based on real gangs) are Fiction.

The Game does not start until 1992.

 

Any such statistic will be just as Bogus. (aka Fan Fiction]

* Wrong

 

There is a body count in the Player Stats section where it tells you the exact total amount of how many peds are killed by other peds in your saved game. From that number, you can get a rough idea of how many gang-related murders have taken place and who did it the most, depending on how you choose to play your game. 

 

* The OP stated the time period of the 90s's - which naturally includes 1992 and the rest of the 90's. I think it is safe to say that is what the OP was referring too, being too technical is not necessary, when the OP was pretty much correct anyway. 

 

* The gangs are fiction ? Oh wow, who would have ever know that ? 🙄

 

Seriously come on lil' weasel - you're sounding like a broken record with this SA fiction rebuttals and dismissals. While they are good to counter some ridiculous theories and silly questions you do get here about SA, it does not mean that they always have to apply to them all. GTA has always been a game that stimulates vivid and detailed imagination tied into roleplay, and roleplay is a subject that is heavily discussed on these forum, but for some strange reason it appears you are always trying to shut it down. We all know what the original game is about, but many of us like to discuss our own personal interpretations of the game, it makes the discussions more interesting, rather than talking about stuff in the game we already know. 

 

* Fan Fiction - GTA Forums = a site for GTA FANS to discuss and debate and have general conversation about GTA, regardless of whether it is fiction or not. 

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Big_Smiley
20 hours ago, Official General said:

GTA has always been a game that stimulates vivid and detailed imagination tied into roleplay, and roleplay is a subject that is heavily discussed on these forum, but for some strange reason it appears you are always trying to shut it down. We all know what the original game is about, but many of us like to discuss our own personal interpretations of the game, it makes the discussions more interesting, rather than talking about stuff in the game we already know.

Hence DYOM which heavily foucses on roleplaying in certain aspects which many still play today. Who needs V's gtaO when you have somthing like this a million times better :p Some day I'll get back to SA's PC version....some day. I think that will be on my things to do before I die list, lol. And fan fiction can become a reality depending on what you do with your game as you mentioned already.

 

 

Spoiler because this is just some random fan fiction I made but in some ways in true to my "own" version of SA.

 


 

News coverage from the summer of Las Venturas (1994)

 

Is LV a safe attraction to go to and check out the famous boulevard drive and wintess many famous buildings? Mabye gamble at nearby the casinos? Yes. Get some grate tasting local foods and bar treats around here while enjoying the clubs? Have a grate and safe experience with your familly? Yes. But it's best to stay far far away from certain neighborhoods that are plagued with on going gang violence who are fighting over territorial disputes aswell as many drug dealers making scores around these parts. LVPD gang and air units are always on scene monitoring the streets. Gang experts in the city of Las venturas have said the Grove Street familes, a ruthless and dangerous African American street gang from the warzones of Los Santos have settled in some neighborhoods around LV in agreement with the nearby Four Dragons Casino Mob Boss ****** (Name censored due to FIB protective cases) to allow influence and money extortion from both drugs and firearm sales. Unfortunately certain sets have departed from the original family sets due to a major disagreement over the sells of drugs. This caused both havoc in certain parts around Grove territories and the LS and LV county prisons over who would controll what based on decisions from high ranking gang leaders from the prisons who have disputes with the others who are highly against drug sales. Due to this, certain dominant hispanic street gangs have seen this as a opportunity to expand territory and have since moved in aswell and have reached conflict over the family sets in LV fighting for truf. Police detectives belief a few of these gangs may be responsible for the random dead bodies being washed up shore and a few others in the dessert being found by residence. A local indian man showed disgust explaing that this the land where his grate grate gandfather "Navaowheu" planted crops to feed his tribe people. "Now I'm finding bodies outside my door step. What has this town bcome with this ridiculous street violence. It is such a distasteful thing for my people here and I expect my family to be safe with the local Sheriff's Department. If not I will take matters in my own hands". The Sheriff then told him to not do anything he would regret, if he has seen any  suspicious activity, he has been informed to call the Sheriff's Department immediately.

 

Police gang detectives don't believe the Las Ventura Mafias have any matter in this as they are in hiding and busy with other jobs with casino extortions in both Liberty City and Vice City while letting this street gang issue pass as they don't want any involvement with Traid Bosses or prison gang bosses after this large dispute.

 

 

San Ferrio has now seen a high growth rate in street gang presence in the more run down areas. An interview with a gang member and his "homeboys" from the Calton Heights Family set in San Ferrio (who's street name is protected) mentioned that he only wants peace with his gang brothers. *Reporter Miguel Monroe* What's your opinion what with has been happeing in LV? "Man it's a f*cking tragedy loc' these Bustas tryna to start another family war up in LV...that some'ull bullsh*t loc' we let that muthaf*cka slide back in 1991-92 and once again we out here killin our own, man F*CK that bullsh*t loc' we all supposed to family loc' *Random backround gang member* "YEAH THAT'S RIGHT" we gotta stick together loc'  *backround gang member* "THAT'S RIGHT FOO, PREACH! PREACH! *Other gang member* "THIS IS FOR MY N**** BIG FRUITLOOP!! *poors Malt liquor on concrete, *proceeds to shed tears* "Why the f*ck we gotta repeat this bullsh*t all over again loc'??? This bullsh*t needs to stop loc'"  *other backround gang member* "YEAH THAT'S RIGHT FOO, REST IN PEACE TO MY BIG BOY O-CAINE'-DOGG, WE ONLY WANT PEACE, F*CK THE SYSTEM AND THE PUNK ONE TIME, YOU BUSTAS SEE CAN'T US!! *other backround gang member* AY TISHA, BITCH IF YOU WATCHING US LIVE BRING BACK MY MUTHAF*CKIN WHIP, I AIN'T WALKING TO THE LIQUOR STORE NO MOE! GETTING TIRED OF THESE PUNK SFPD CHECKING THESE NUTS, *backround gang member* "We need that car pull lane baby!!"  *other gang member* "THAT'S RIGHT!?!.

 

 

*Camera cuts off* *Back to news channel 7* Some of these gang members have acutally gotten jobs and made decisions to leave the gang life but has since been difficult because as family sets in SF they all have to stick together especially after the recent conflicts. The SFPD has made no decisions on pressuring members seeing as the majority only want peace. But the San Ferrio gang unit has placed every family set on watch due to nearby enemy rivals who aren't in good terms with the family sets.

 

Sgt.Steven Hanks had this to say on camera... "Just because they are looking for peace doesn't mean we will not have them in mandatory check, at the end of the day they are all still ruthless gang members who originated from the awful areas that make up Los Santos who still flash gang colors, gang signs, carry pistols, Cross out rival name sets with graffiti, and intimidate nearby citizens who live within the blocks. We'll have a few officers patrolling the areas once in a while."

 

A recent study shows that San Ferrio is still the most safest city for tourist attraction and family vacations having a low crime rate of 35% while the bay area is just at 21% LV remains in the second but at a percentage of 56% since crime rate has significantly risen since the late 80's and now has seen the presence of drug dealers in certain areas with gang activity. While Los Santos is still at a extremely high rate of low saftey from a recent study from Ghettostreet reports mentiones that even Vice City is not on these levels as it used to be in the early to mid 80's with mafia crime familes in that city. (Ghettostreet reports) places Los Santos crime rate at a baring 93%, chance of getting robbed, shot, stabbed, checked by gang members, question by gang members on your gang banging status no matter if your a striaght up white person from the Suburbs or the country side, If you walk around with high knee socks and sandles the LSPD gang unit will call backup and consider you a armed and dangerous hispanic gang member no matter if your not involved with gangs in the first place, the same treatment goes for old people who wear high knee socks and kids in soccer clothing at park games, Your ass gets jacked by random street thugs at stop lights, your vehicle stolen at parked places, your car radio stolen, your car tires and rims stolen, your car parts stolen, home invastions, harassed by the LSPD, You really have no privacy while taking a sh*t in your house or apartment because the majority of the times the LSPD chopper spotlight shines it's light 24/7 on every neighborhood checking for street gang activity. You'll have trouble with sleep since passing police choppers are loud as hell, gun shots occur almost daily, You will literally suffocate in traffic due to Los Santos being so highly polluted so roll those windows up

 

In 1993 a Woman sued gang unit officer Robert Velasquez for braking her 14 year old sons left leg after beating him with a night stick then arresting him near Jefferson Motel after a soccer game. The officer claimed He was wearing high knee socks and white shoes with black shorts "ignoring the huge ass number and his school name"???? Said the mothers defense attorney. And Velasquez said HELL no...Little thug was already about to flash his signs then call for his homies to bust a cap in my ass I was in damn near danger. A Los Santos judge blamed the LSPD's gang unit for it's ridiculous rules upon spotting gang members in the "hispanic gangs section 17" including a section explaing beating old people who wear high knee socks because they may be OG's still giving out orders to younger gang members. It has since been alterd slighly due to demaned by the judge and the case was won by the mother and her 14 year old son.

 

 Lieutenant officer Velasquez managed to keep his job due to making El corona (an extremely dangerous Barrio neighborhood in the Los Santos area that has major conflict With the Azteca gang and the South Side Vagos gang along the neaby Front Yard Ballas and Grove ST Familes, a much safer place for passing citizens with the help of his colleagues, The jude himself praised his braveness for being in such dangerous neighborhoods and blamed his Department for the ridiculous rules they are taught by the departments guidebook.

 

"This has been John Willmer with channle 7 news, thank you for tuning in and be safe out there"

 

^This makes some excellent fan fiction. Whether you change, add in some stuff or even mod it in, SA has always been grate for fan fiction stuff like this.

 

 

Edited by Big_Smiley

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Jeansowaty

It's pretty hard to pinpoint. According to my mod the sets of the Ballas according to their power are as follows:

 

Kilo Tray Ballas carry the most powerful weapons including AK-47's, Micro Uzis and their unique Balla-colored Baseball Bats, but they have the least turf, only in Glen Park and a part of Downtown LS.

Rollin Heights Ballas carry average weapons including Micro Uzis, Full Length Uzis and Balla Baseball Bats, they however have the most turf including all of Jefferson and Willowfield.

Front Yard Ballas are your average everyday killers, they carry mediocre Micro Uzis and Pistols and closely mirror the RHB in turf, having all of East Los Santos and Idlewood, making them much less of a threat on the streets than the other sets, however what they make up for is that they're the most influential set and some of the oldest OG's are part of it. It's clear that they are the leading set due to this and they are also known to be the ones to set up deals with other organisations and have their fingers dipped in the Police Department as well.

Temple Drive Ballas are also a minor set, they only hang out in east Temple where they beef often with the Temple Drive Families. They carry Pistols, Glock 17s and Pump Shotguns, which they use as their main defense due to their isolation and small numbers.

The least influential set are the Beach Side Ballas, a splinter of the TDB that hangs out all over Verona Beach. Their members are poor as a frickle and are frequently used as muscle by the bigger sets. They carry Knives, Meat Cleavers and TEC-9s.

 

Link to my thing: 

 

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Big_Smiley

@Jeansowaty Grate post :colgate: Exactly what I'm referring to with everyone having their own  preferences and changes with either glitches or mods.

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1 minute ago, Big_Smiley said:

@Jeansowaty Grate post :colgate: Exactly what I'm referring to with everyone having their own  preferences and changes with either glitches or mods.

Thanks ;) I wrote up my own 1993 sequel to SA and that's the situation there in the beginning. I don't consider the 100% turf taken over as canon.

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Official General
3 minutes ago, Big_Smiley said:

@Jeansowaty Grate post :colgate: Exactly what I'm referring to with everyone having their own  preferences and changes with either glitches or mods.

Yeah that is what many of us avid SA players do. 

2 minutes ago, Jeansowaty said:

Thanks ;) I wrote up my own 1993 sequel to SA and that's the situation there in the beginning. I don't consider the 100% turf taken over as canon.

Me too. I never take over 100 percent turf anyway, that would so boring. 

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Jeansowaty
1 minute ago, Official General said:

Yeah that is what many of us avid SA players do. 

Me too. I never take over 100 percent turf anyway, that would so boring. 

I once went on a binge to take over all turfs in one setting. It was a gruelling experience but seeing all these gangbangers trying to defend their 'hood while exploring the map felt so satisfactory, especially when you recruit your lazy-ass homies from nearby turfs and give them some heavier weapons. The GSF are hardcore when they have Deagles and Shotguns.

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Big_Smiley
1 hour ago, Jeansowaty said:

The GSF are hardcore when they have Deagles and Shotguns.

Yeah, homies are OP when they all have MP5's and Deagles, or any other better weapon, lol. I have two spereat save files with one of them still having Tec-9's and pistols keeping some sort of realism cause without any proper connections oridinanry street gangs would use what they got in their respective territories. And my other save since familes have conncentions in LV (my fan fiction is based on since GSF made moves with Traid mobs in the Four Dragons Casino) they now have access to better weapons. While familes in SF are in a separate connection, etc... I may check out your mod one of these days. Have made some decisions on whether getting a newer laptop again or a decent PC for other occasions with my family. Last time I ever owned a PC was back in 2008.  It's one of my things to check out when time is right.

 

Edited by Big_Smiley

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Official General
1 hour ago, Jeansowaty said:

I once went on a binge to take over all turfs in one setting. It was a gruelling experience but seeing all these gangbangers trying to defend their 'hood while exploring the map felt so satisfactory, especially when you recruit your lazy-ass homies from nearby turfs and give them some heavier weapons. The GSF are hardcore when they have Deagles and Shotguns.

I gave all the gangs Deagles as a 3rd weapon using Save Editor, definitely adds more explosive fire to gun battles. But sometimes they used as Colt Anacondas or USP H&K heavy calibre pistols.

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Jeansowaty
59 minutes ago, Big_Smiley said:

Yeah, homies are OP when they all have MP5's and Deagles, or any other better weapon, lol. I have two spereat save files with one of them still having Tec-9's and pistols keeping some sort of realism cause without any proper connections oridinanry street gangs would use what they got in their respective territories. And my other save since familes have conncentions in LV (my fan fiction is based on since GSF made moves with Traid mobs in the Four Dragons Casino) they now have access to better weapons. While familes in SF are in a separate connection, etc... I may check out your mod one of these days. Have made some decisions on whether getting a newer laptop again or a decent PC for other occasions with my family. Last time I ever owned a PC was back in 2008.  It's one of my things to check out when time is right.

 

I have added many more new sets of the GSF too... they will spawn if you take over certain specified rival hoods. Such as in 3 areas formerly occupied by the Ballas (Glen Park, the main turf of Jefferson and the hood where you start off in East Los Santos) will be occupied by the new Balla Killa Families, who carry AK-47s, Long Micro Uzis and TEC-9's. These new sets may be OP at times but that's because the GSF are expanding and I wanted them to be more unique to have fun in gang wars ;)

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Copcaller

I would say front yard ballas since they are the closet to the Grove and pump crack into it further weakening their rivals

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