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Is GTA Chinatown Wars set in the 3D/HD universe?..


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Okay, to begin, i'm aware there was obvious hardware restrictions to mobile devices, and that the HD & 3D universe are separate timelines, and that GTA Chinatown wars is based off the HD universe, however if Chinatown Wars claims to be set in 2009, in the HD universe, why isn't Alderney present, sure for hardware limitations, but they could have just closed off the bridge to Alderney and make Alderney present on the map, rather then making it seem Alderney non existence.

 

Please share your theories down in the comment section, i'm curious to see your opinions.

Just now, xHX780Fx said:

Okay, to begin, i'm aware there was obvious hardware restrictions to mobile devices, and that the HD & 3D universe are separate timelines, and that GTA Chinatown wars is based off the HD universe, however if Chinatown Wars claims to be set in 2009, in the HD universe, why isn't Alderney present, sure for hardware limitations, but they could have just closed off the bridge to Alderney and make Alderney present on the map, rather then making it seem Alderney non existence.

 

Please share your theories down in the comment section, i'm curious to see your opinions.

(P.S: Apologies for being so late.)

2 minutes ago, xHX780Fx said:

Okay, to begin, i'm aware there was obvious hardware restrictions to mobile devices, and that the HD & 3D universe are separate timelines, and that GTA Chinatown wars is based off the HD universe, however if Chinatown Wars claims to be set in 2009, in the HD universe, why isn't Alderney present, sure for hardware limitations, but they could have just closed off the bridge to Alderney and make Alderney present on the map, rather then making it seem Alderney non existence.

 

Please share your theories down in the comment section, i'm curious to see your opinions.

(P.S: Apologies for being so late.)

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Well, I have finished it 100% last night after three days. I can tell if there would be an another island, I might not bare to complete it. Maybe, Rockstar were aware of this apart from the hardware restrictions lol. It might also seem irrelevant and nonsense if there were an Alderney and you could not enter it. Besides those, quite poor title it is in my opinion. I enjoyed Advance much more.

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I'm guessing they ditched Alderney because a). it wasn't relevant to the story, b). it's technically not a part of Liberty City, and c). as mentioned before, because of technical limitations and/or lack of effort. It's a little disappointing that they didn't do Alderney, but can you imagine how big of a dick it would be to have it on the map but completely inaccessible? Talk about pissing off your customers, that would be false advertising.

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This game was originally on the DS. It would be hard enough fitting the amount of content (data) that was ALREADY present in the game into that teenie tiny cartridge but having another large (probably unnecessary) island would probably have been too much. Not saying for sure or anything, but to me that would be the most likely case. 


What I don't see is how Alderney not being in the game would be evidence for not taking place in the HD universe. As stated by other posters, Alderney is NOT part of Liberty City therefore in all technicalities the full Liberty City is still present in the game so I don't see how it's really relevant and you're really asking two questions in your topic, Is GTA:CTW in the HD or 3D universe and Why Isn't Alderney in GTA:CTW.

 

By the way, to answer your question, Chinatown Wars is set in the HD universe. Don't quote me on this but I'm pretty sure it was confirmed by Rockstar, but even if I'm wrong regarding that, the same Liberty City that appeared in IV is present in CTW so that's really all the proof you need to conclude that the game is in the HD universe.

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Chinatown Wars is part of the HD universe. Liberty City was just completely remade to fit within the limitations of the DS handheld which was the platform it was originally designed for. If you compare the maps of IV and CTW you'll notice they are roughly the same cities, but in CTW there are no curved roads, almost all turns are 90°, and obviously Alderney is completely absent. Kind of a shame, though, considering that in IV the triads had some influence in Alderney. Don't forget that food place called Mr. Fuk's that you visited during a Jon Gravelli mission.

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16 hours ago, RetroMystic said:

This game was originally on the DS. It would be hard enough fitting the amount of content (data) that was ALREADY present in the game into that teenie tiny cartridge but having another large (probably unnecessary) island would probably have been too much. Not saying for sure or anything, but to me that would be the most likely case.

CTW was shipped on a 128 MB cartridge, and as usual for the series, 80% of that is audio. "Lack of space" is never the case, if the R* devs ran into a storage hiccup in designing the world they would slash audio. GTA is all about the world.

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Alderney was removed for hardware limitation purposes, and also because it plays no part in the story.

 

That said, CW is set in the HD Universe. While no characters from CW and GTA IV trilogy officially crossover (probably because of completely different art-styles), the use of GTA IV's LC (obviously) and the presence of CW characters being named on the LCPD's online database in GTA IV (along with details that foreshadow the events of CW) pretty much confirms they both share the same timeline.

 

Despite that however, CW does seem to take more notes from the 3D Universe gameplay-wise, with regards to the inclusion of crazy vehicles and weapons along with vehicle-based side-missions.

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I guess Chinatown Wars is just a spin off of the HD universe, unrelated to the main story. And GTA Advance was a spin off of the 3D universe but it had no real relevance to the main plot. Vice City Stories and Liberty City Stories are somewhere between a spin off and the main games, but probably part of the main games side, as they are actually relevant to the 3D universe plot.

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5 hours ago, Helegad said:

You're full of sh*t.

and you kiss your mother with that mouth?

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3 hours ago, just do it bob1 said:

and you kiss your mother with that mouth?

I kiss your mother with it, provided she hasn't touched you in a week or so, I ain't into tasting sh*t.

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Nowhere has Rockstar said that Chinatown Wars takes place in the 3D Universe. It's set in the HD universe and Alderney is not present because 1) It's not a part of Liberty City 2) It's not relevant to the story 3) I am 99% sure that waters surrounding the locations in these games are not canon. 

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There are LCPD crime records for Haung Lee and various other characters from CTW in GTA IV, and take into consideration that CTW was released a year after IV, this is a strong evidence for CTW being set in HD timeline

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Chinatown Wars in the HD universe beacause same city(Alderney isn't because of Nintendo DS)and if it was in the 3d universe,then Liberty City would be the same as GTA III.

 

 

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On 12/25/2018 at 6:37 PM, just do it bob1 said:

3D I'm almost positive that Rockstar confirmed it themselves 

 

[citation needed]

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33 minutes ago, just do it bob1 said:

In APA or MLA format?


MLA please

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On 9/2/2020 at 10:35 AM, Ash-JAY said:

CTW might be in a tottally differrent universe actually. We dont see any characters from GTA IV Trilogy in it, Nor do we see any CTW characters in GTA V.

CTW is in the HD Universe, it takes place in the year 2009.

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