Tchuck Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 1 hour ago, cactus. said: What do you think would be the best tie breaker after points, goal difference, and goals scored? Fight to the death.  Nah, but seriously, there's no other criterias to untie things. Yellow cards, Red cards, and then a coin toss because f*ck it, if two teams were that much equal to each other? Their own fault. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/912286-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA-fifa-world-cup-2018-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA/page/7/#findComment-1070289663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 There's nothing practical really, the teams could be hundreds of miles apart so something like a penalty shootout wouldn't work. It's very strange how it's become a factor this year. Tchuck 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/912286-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA-fifa-world-cup-2018-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA/page/7/#findComment-1070289674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRipperOfLagoZancudo Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 I got France and Uruguay. If both Messi and Ronaldo go out it'd be splendid. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/912286-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA-fifa-world-cup-2018-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA/page/7/#findComment-1070290053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchuck Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Fantastic game. France looked extremely deadly on the counter attack, and Messi missed that one shot that could have turned the game around.  That last attack at the last minute too, wow. Could really see them scoring.  But alas, it was not meant to be. One of the greatest players of all time will retire from the national team having failed to win any silverware with them. Not even a Copa America. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/912286-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA-fifa-world-cup-2018-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA/page/7/#findComment-1070290153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laker23 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Fully prepared for a 0-0 in a couple hours after that incredible game. Felt the scoreline flattered Argentina. France look incredibly deadly running at the defence. Â Once again I need to use this moment to remark what an utter dick Otamendi is. For the second time he boots the ball at a player on the ground. Petulant child of a man. Tchuck 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/912286-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA-fifa-world-cup-2018-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA/page/7/#findComment-1070290186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLand Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 I still can't understand how Messi isn't criticized the way he should. I mean 90 minutes and all he did was walk around the field with his head down (Like the Argentina - Iceland and Argentina - Croatia)... I mean, WTF? You are one of the best (If not the best), player in the world, why don't you try to push your team forward with you? Take out the spirit of wining and act like Cholo Simeone when he tells the whole Atletico crowd to cheer as hard as they can because their team need them. Your team needed you the most Messi, and once again you let them down. Messi just walks and walks with his head down and plays like he is not interested. I bet millions of kids in Argentina dream about getting to play in their National team... A dream Messi is quite NOT interested, very hard to digest.  I am NOT trashing Messi because i dislike him, i am criticizing him because he shows NO attitude when he plays for his national team. Let's be honest, if another player played as bad as Messi, he would have been put in the bench for the rest of the WC (Like they did with Willy Caballero). But since he is Messi, he is allowed to walk and if you criticize him, you almost get beaten up.  Is NOT normal for Messi to have 65 goals in total in his football career with Argentina. That 6 more goals than David Villa (59) with Spain which yes, he was a TOP player but not at the same level as Messi. You might argue that Messi plays for a National team that's "trash" just like it's players... An argument I disagree with, when a lot of Argentinian players play in TOP clubs in Europe. Also, if we are going to talk about "trash" National teams;  i haven't seen Jovetic with Montenegro walk around the field with his head down like Messi does, I haven't seen Gareth Bale do the same as Messi with Wales, I haven't seen Mkhitaryan do the same thing as Messi with Armenia, I haven't seen Adebayor do the same thing as Messi with Togo and so on... And the national teams i have mentioned are a million times worse than Argentina.  No excuse, Messi. You are a TOP football player, but you only play good when you want to. You have NO discipline.  PD. No i am not a Real Madrid/ Cristiano / FC Barcelona / Argentina fanboy. I am just expressing my opinion. Queenslayer and Tchuck 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/912286-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA-fifa-world-cup-2018-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA/page/7/#findComment-1070290256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Messi plays the same way for Barca though? He's not a particularly vocal player, he drifts around at a walking pace doing seemingly nothing but finds him self in dangerous pockets of space to attack, that's how he plays and has been for years. In the game today he played most of the match as a false 9 meaning he not only have to centre forward but also play midfield, the man is 30 years old and not the young speedster he once was. He can't pick the ball up 50 yards from goal and dribble through France's midfield and defence and score. He also can't sit up front and wait for the ball to come to him because the team has no where near enough quality in midfield and out wide to do that either. Despite all that, he was still involved in two of the goals for his team today.  Argentina's problem isn't Messi, it's everything else. The manager chopped and changed the team every game which gives the strong impression that he had absolutely no idea what his best team was, he failed to fit in players like Dybala and persisted with players like Meza who was flat out f*cking terrible all tournament. Having Mascherano in the squad nevermind the starting eleven was also a poor decision, he looked well past his sell by date and individually had one of the worst performances I've seen at a World Cup against Croatia. If there's one individual to single out for criticism from Argentina's WC campaign then Messi is the absolute last player you'd pick IMO.  Argentina's best chance of winning a World Cup was in 2014, but Higuain's got a spanner for a foot. Tchuck 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/912286-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA-fifa-world-cup-2018-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA/page/7/#findComment-1070290298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyGanteks Posted June 30, 2018 Author Share Posted June 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Tchuck said: But alas, it was not meant to be. One of the greatest players of all time will retire from the national team having failed to win any silverware with them. Not even a Copa America. He's 31 and Copa America is next year. So he might give that one more try, and who knows, 35 isn't much, maybe Qatar 2022 right before retirement, but that's up to him.  Great game though, most fun of this WC so far. GG France, what a beast midfield and attack. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/912286-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA-fifa-world-cup-2018-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA/page/7/#findComment-1070290312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactus. Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 That's the France we were all waiting to see! Awesome attacking, granted I only caught the second half, but that was still some good sh*t from them. Can't wait to see more of that. Did Dembele not get subbed in at all? I'd tipped him to be player of the tournament, haha Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/912286-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA-fifa-world-cup-2018-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA/page/7/#findComment-1070290320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenslayer Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 I chose France many months ago.  The whole of the first team, back to front, are all strong, quick, powerful and more importantly a lot of them are at their peak or quickly developing. Defence you have guys like Umtiti and Varane, a decent keeper in Lloris, top midfielders like Kante, Pogba, Matuidi then going forward you have guys like Greizmann, M'Bappe. Spain in 2010 were at their peak and Germany in 2014 were at their peak.  I can't see anyone other than France this year  2 hours ago, Tchuck said: One of the greatest players of all time will retire from the national team having failed to win any silverware with them. Not even a Copa America. But Ronaldo will Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/912286-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA-fifa-world-cup-2018-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA/page/7/#findComment-1070290329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Uruguay are nightmarish to play against man. Near impossible to create a chance against them nevermind score against them. If Cavani is fit then they have a big chance of winning the lot. Â Sad to see Ronaldo and Messi go out though, some part of me did want one of them win it. Eutyphro, Tchuck and Journey_95 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/912286-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA-fifa-world-cup-2018-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA/page/7/#findComment-1070290410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eutyphro Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Yeah, Uruguay is a really tough team. Sturdy as hell and amazing strikers. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/912286-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA-fifa-world-cup-2018-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA/page/7/#findComment-1070290413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laker23 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Great games today. I'll take this entertainment tomorrow again, please. Â Cavani doesn't look too worried about whatever the injury is, got 6 days to make sure he's ready. cactus. 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/912286-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA-fifa-world-cup-2018-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA/page/7/#findComment-1070290415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante財閥 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Cavani is an absolute don. Such a mustard finish for the second goal. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/912286-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA-fifa-world-cup-2018-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA/page/7/#findComment-1070290453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchuck Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 6 hours ago, AndyGanteks said: He's 31 and Copa America is next year. So he might give that one more try, and who knows, 35 isn't much, maybe Qatar 2022 right before retirement, but that's up to him.  Great game though, most fun of this WC so far. GG France, what a beast midfield and attack. I doubt it. He already nearly quit after the Copa America failure, and had to be persuaded to return. At 35, he'll be older, he'll be slower, and there'll still be a struggle about how to get him to play.  Uruguay, master class. Really hardy team, tough to beat, and very deadly.  This world cup is getting better and better! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/912286-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA-fifa-world-cup-2018-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA/page/7/#findComment-1070290708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRipperOfLagoZancudo Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) This wouldn't hurt so much for Argentina if they just made use of their chances against Germany 4 years ago.  EDIT: Spain makes over 1000 passes and still lose. Enjoy your flight back home haha tiki taka bs  Edited July 1, 2018 by TheRipperOfLagoZancudo Queenslayer and Tchuck 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/912286-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA-fifa-world-cup-2018-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA/page/7/#findComment-1070290764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactus. Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 well, that was surprising! Spain can feel hard done by there, in extra time it looked like two Spanish were dragged down on that set piece. The referee halted play as he was being informed about something (I would guess the possible foul in the box?), and then chose to not review? I don't understand why the ref would deliberately choose to not review a play which can massively change a game. Isn't that the whole purpose of having the tech?  Anyways, it would have been a victory of finest margins for either team. Russia were impressive in the shootout holding their nerve like that. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/912286-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA-fifa-world-cup-2018-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA/page/7/#findComment-1070291359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 The Russian defender holding Ramos did look like a pen to me, but eh, Spain should be winning that game comfortably. 120 minutes of possession without purpose, very few direct, forward passes... It's weird to think, but the way they played is just as negative as the way Russia played IMO. They were taking no risks at all.  Great for the hosts to still be in though, their game in the quarters is gonna be bouncing I bet. Tchuck 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/912286-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA-fifa-world-cup-2018-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA/page/7/#findComment-1070291364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eutyphro Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 It was reviewed by the video ref I think, but decided not to be a penalty. I think it was a mistake to leave Morata at home in retrospect. They should've played with Costa and Morata, and then let Silva and Isco chip crosses into the box. Would've created much more danger than this toothless tiki-taka with one striker. Their play was disappointing considering how well they played in the run up. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/912286-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA-fifa-world-cup-2018-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA/page/7/#findComment-1070291372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non Funkable Token Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) Morata is the epitome of the "meh" player. Not missing him a bit. Plus his season in Chelsea wasn't good either.  Spain had several players on their way out and no coach there. Thanks to the Federation and especially thanks to f*cking Real Madrid president Florentino Pérez for announcing Lopetegui's sign 2 days before the start of the WC. Thanks a lot. I'm not telling Lopetegui is a master coach but that episode was too much to handle for the team. And I'll laugh my ass when he's dispatched mid-season, see it. Edited July 1, 2018 by Fluffy Sock SouthLand 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/912286-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA-fifa-world-cup-2018-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA/page/7/#findComment-1070291394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VenomDYOM Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) Wow, Denmark scored a goal so fast. Like in the first minute. What a fast team they got there. Congratulations, Denmark. Â Â EDIT: Mandzukic just scored a goal in the third minute. This is a excellent one. Edited July 1, 2018 by VenomDYOM Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/912286-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA-fifa-world-cup-2018-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA/page/7/#findComment-1070291410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eutyphro Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 37 minutes ago, Fluffy Sock said: Morata is the epitome of the "meh" player. Not missing him a bit. Plus his season in Chelsea wasn't good either. He has a slightly better scoring record than Costa in the national team though. I just felt spain needed an extra striker, and I'm not sure I liked the ones that came from the bench that much. Â 23 minutes ago, VenomDYOM said: Wow, Denmark scored a goal so fast. Like in the first minute. Hah, only 9 seconds off my fastest goal prediction in the prediction thread. Good for me. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/912286-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA-fifa-world-cup-2018-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA/page/7/#findComment-1070291430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laker23 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 I love a good penalty shootout when it's not England. Goalkeepers were great.  Feel for Denmark, felt they were the better team overall. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/912286-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA-fifa-world-cup-2018-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA/page/7/#findComment-1070291536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Eutyphro said: He has a slightly better scoring record than Costa in the national team though. I just felt spain needed an extra striker, and I'm not sure I liked the ones that came from the bench that much. You might be on to something tbh, Spain looked like a different team when they went 2 up top at the end of the match. Wasn't enough, obviously, but the midfield started passing forward and the forwards began dragging CB's around, they just didn't have enough time. SouthLand 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/912286-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA-fifa-world-cup-2018-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA/page/7/#findComment-1070291573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eutyphro Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 (edited) Tiki-Taka is very demanding in terms of team coordination, and the role of the striker. Spain have struggled with it, and in stead of trying to play like 2011 Barca, they could've tried playing like Real. Real generally has Cristiano and Benzema in the box, and players like Isco and Marcelo chip in crosses. It's very effective, and it is a much easier way to create danger than ripping open a team with short passes. Players like Iniesta and Isco, though technically geniuses, do not have that much scoring potential. Iniesta has made less goals in his career than Ramos. So to have only one striker compensate for this is too little. In the run up to the World Cup it looked like it was no problem at all though. Edited July 1, 2018 by Eutyphro Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/912286-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA-fifa-world-cup-2018-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA/page/7/#findComment-1070291585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRipperOfLagoZancudo Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Spain and Portugal were such a waste of spots. Wish Morocco and Iran weren't so unlucky a bit. -_- Tchuck 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/912286-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA-fifa-world-cup-2018-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA/page/7/#findComment-1070291650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchuck Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Spain was awful. Just passing the ball around, aimlessly, running the game down, hoping for that one sweet opening to get a goal in. They didn't even score a goal, with it being a own goal by the Russian defender (how the hell was he marking the player with his back completely to the ball?!).  Good riddance to them. But I agree with TheRipper, those two spots could have been more well served by Morocco and Iran, who were playing some pretty decent football but were unlucky with their finishes etc.  I hope the day of Spain's tiki-taka is done. This Spanish team was a bore compared to the 2008-2012 one. TheRipperOfLagoZancudo and SouthLand 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/912286-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA-fifa-world-cup-2018-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA/page/7/#findComment-1070291712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRipperOfLagoZancudo Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Them winning 2010 still gets me super salty and Im not even dutch lmao. At least back then they were able to score goals. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/912286-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA-fifa-world-cup-2018-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA/page/7/#findComment-1070291829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLand Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 I was really pissed off yesterday and quite sad to be honest. I have always said that there is a big difference if you loose when you play well and when you play like s*hit. And yesterday, Spain played awful, just like we had news doing all tournament.  What makes me want to throw myself out the window is the fact that the Spanish press is clueless. They are "shocked" and can't understand "What happened?" "How did this happen?"... Really? Are you f*cking kidding me right now?  This happen because we use a system that was great in 2008-2012 but it's useless right now. Tiki Taka has been horrible for us for years... look at yesterday match, 90% completed passes and huge possession and we still struggle to score a goal... Why? Because we don't have strikers and NOBODY shoots. Why can't Silva, Asensio, Iniesta, Isco, Aspas... Shoot like the other national teams? Why can't Spain have a Cavani that aims and shoots or like Di Maria did against France, Why?  I am jealous that the Argentinian press where very good at pointing out what was wrong in their national team, without caring whining might ofend, but the Spanish press instead of focusing on criticizing the obsolete system we use, they critize the players... FFS!!! Those players are the ones that won La Liga, a Champions league, the premier league with city... give me a f*cking break. The only player that actually failed was De Gea, the rest did what they could.  We have failed the last three tournaments that we have played. I think it's time to go back to the lab and try a new formula because the one we came out with, it NOT working at all.              cactus. and Tchuck 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/912286-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA-fifa-world-cup-2018-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA/page/7/#findComment-1070291972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Another bonkers game, well, a bonkers second half. So close to another upset. Â England tomorrow. plsplsplsplsdontlose Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/912286-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA-fifa-world-cup-2018-%F0%9F%87%B7%F0%9F%87%BA/page/7/#findComment-1070292716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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